YOUR BODY IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS! Unless you're my teenager...
This country is so immature; we're all a bunch of puritans who are upset by sex, obsessed with sex, and in fear of sex. By making it so taboo, we've made it too exciting. Other countries are blase about topless beaches, but in America we've made icons out of the breast and the penis. I am raising sons, tweenage boys, and I am hearing things you cannot believe on a daily basis that are going on in middle school.
Our culture's fascination with porn and nudity and sleaze is creating an entire generation who have only one thing on their mind: graphic sex. That is all they talk about. But not "loving monogamous sex", not the excitement of mystery; it's all about body parts and violent language, and using women as sex objects. It has never been worse in our country. I cannot believe what I'm seeing and hearing. Our children crave and deserve innocence. They deserve to have their childhoods back -- where imagination was more important than knowledge. I am mentoring teen girls in our neighborhood. Please stay tuned for some pretty raw but enlightening posts on this soon.
IS KILLING PRO-LIFE?
DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY
I've been thinking about the root of hatred lately — and it's obvious that "evil" (I don't believe in evil) is always the same regressive, self-centered fear-based bigotry that Christ fought against and that has been here since the beginning of civilization: the ancient dark force of fundamentalism. There is, of course, no power in "evil," but this is our only enemy — the primitive hateful force that was behind the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, the Ku Klux Klan, the assassination of Martin Luther King, the slaying of abortion doctors, the killing of Matthew Shepherd, the illegal invasion of Iraq, the campaign of Bush-Cheney, the obsession with automatic weapons, the fear of Muslims, the fear of immigrants, the fear of helping the poor, the fear of free medical care, the fear of peace and the crucifiction of the Great Peacemaker — the force that is most represented right now by the extremist political right wing in our country. And of course their messengers and propagandists: Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Mark Levin, Glen Beck.
HuffPo comments after Dr. Tiller was murdered in cold blood last week by suspect Scott Roeder:
Right wing fundamentalists who are stockpiling guns and murdering people like this are absolute terrorists in our own country. Look at what happened at the Palin rallies: people yelling "Kill him!" and nothing was done...and the recent ad in a newspaper encouraging our president's assasination. These people are more of a threat to our freedom and safety than any Gitmo prisoner who might be imprisoned in our fortress-like prisons. I hope this man is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
I am stunned and deeply saddened over the called "pro-life" terrorists in this country. They are pro-death, not pro-life. They are anti-life. They are so deeply wrong and tragically flawed in their thinking, it is beyond comprehension. There is a reason the womb is encased in the separate individual body of a human being. It is not community property. This is not a state or government issue. No bureaucrat, government agent, policeman, moral judge, religious tribe, fanatical fundamentalist -- or any other human being has the right to dictate what I do with my private parts. Even for God-loving Christians they cannot deny that the whole point of the Bible is the journey of the soul to God. The journey of each human being making good or bad choices which create his or her character. Every human being has the right of free will. FREE WILL means each person can choose to make a mistake and his or her soul has to suffer the consequences and grow from this. Every story in the Bible concerns deeply flawed humans who made terrible mistakes, but were forgiven and redeemed if they turned to their Father — God. Without free will, they could never have this journey or learned these lessons. The whole point is love, forgiveness and redemption.
In Iowa, Dan Holman, of the anti-abortion group Missionaries to the Preborn, told CNN that Tiller's death was something to "cheer."
I was cheered by it, because I knew he wouldn't be killing any more babies," Holman said.
Holman protested a May 17 speech by President Obama in which the president urged Americans to find common ground on abortion. He told CNN that "all abortionists are deserving of death, and they are not the only ones. There are politicians and judges, and others who support this murder are also deserving of death."
In all of Christ's teachings, he only cared about how we treat each other: The Golden Rule. In every one of his Beatitudes, he taught the laws of love. "The meek shall inherit the earth." Life is not about flesh, it is spirit. The soul is not located in the material body or in fetal tissue. The spiritual values of love and compassion are the only things Christ cared about.
The law of love, the spirit not the flesh, how we treat our each other, how we treat our enemies. "Turn the other cheek. Love your enemies." There is no substance in matter. Christ was offended by the Pharisees with their rules, gold, robes and rituals. So much focus on ritual and "material" rules and complex food laws that bogged down the spirit. Remember he said "It's the spirit of the law and not the letter" meaning "It's how you LOVE ONE ANOTHER that matters to God." It seems these modern day Pharisees, the evangelical extremists such as Pat Robertson, the late Jerry Falwell, John Hagee and people at Operation Rescue — are focused on everything BUT what is important. When will they learn?
Again, it's the dark force of primitive fundamentalism that puts more faith in fear than in God; that condemns sinners instead of bringing the light of love and forgiveness, as Christ taught; that controls others with lengthy rituals and icons of idolatry. This very same force is responsible for the current economic crisis. Style over substance. Fundamentalism >authoritarianism > materialism (greed) > consumerism.
Again, Christ's most important law is the Golden Rule, or how we treat our fellow human beings. But before you say "How we treat a fetus is more important than how we treat living, born human beings!" you are decidedly WRONG. This is not what Christ, the Great Peacemaker taught. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. No where is this subject mentioned in any of his teachings, or anywhere else in the Bible.
It is absurd to think that a piece of prenatal tissue that may or may not be viable, and that is the genetic result of a supremely private act between husband and wife (or tragically, between rapist and victim) -- and is part of a distinctly separate human woman with free will, living in a land of freedom, with privacy rights and civil rights — to think this is worth killing a born, living, breathing, human being over is the ultimate evil. For these hateful, anti-Christian, pro-death extremists who call themselves "pro-life" and would murder a living human being to save an unborn defective fetus -- to think that a "potential life" that is ensconced within the separate, free, individual body of a woman, a private citizen — is more important than the living, the born, the mother's own life, the victims of our illegal bombing campaigns, our soldiers, the Iraqi children, the homeless, the poor, the orphans, the destitute or even one's enemies such as Dr. Tiller — is un-Christian, immoral, and against everything Christ himself taught.
How dare you, Scott Roeder and your ilk -- how dare you take our your sick pathological, twisted vengeance on an entire family and community -- not to mention ruining the life of your own son and going against every law of the God you claim to worship. You have no idea what cases Dr. Tiller was treating. You twist the legal language to suit your malevolent purposes. Women who had no other choice but to have an abortion because the fetus was not going to live, or was threatening the life of the mother - he was saving lives. Until you've walked in the shoes of every woman going through this, you have no right to judge.
But if you take the bible as the literal word of God, then why don't you take God's words literally? "Judgment and vengeance is mine!" said God.
COMING SOON...
How to Talk to your Teens about Sex in American Culture (which isn't normal sex)
Thanks to the recent announcement of Jamie Lynn Spear's pregnancy, many parents have had to have conversations with their tweens and teens about pregnancy and sex. Talking to children about these topics can prove to be scary and a difficult task, but it doesn't have to be...
RIGHT WING TERRORISTS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY
ReplyDeleteAlways have been, always will be.
From the reich-winger conservatives who backed the crown in the American Revolution to the conservatives who wanted to destroy the Union to keep slavery, they always will destroy everything just to get their deluded self centered way.
QED
Lydia said "RIGHT WING TERRORISTS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY
ReplyDeleteI've been thinking about the root of hatred lately — and I realized after seeing the movie
Angels and Demons that "evil" is always the same regressive, fear-based bigotry that Christ fought against and that has been here since the beginning of civilization:
the ancient dark force of fundamentalism. This is our only enemy - the primitive hateful force that was behind the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, the Ku Klux Klan, the assassination of Martin Luther King, the slaying of abortion doctors, the obsession with gun rights, the campaign of Bush-Cheney, the fear of Muslims, the fear of immigrants, the fear of sharing wealth, the fear of free medical care, the fear of peace and the crucifiction of the Great Peacemaker — the force that is most represented right now by the political right wing in our country.
It has always been the same force of evil, it just keeps changing its name."
Outstanding Lydia!
This entire piece is spot on......your ABSOLUTELY RIGHT the evil has been there throughout history and merely changed its name and its two GREATEST tools have been ignorance and fear always tapping into the basest instincts and WORST of mankind..........Regressive is a perfect word for these people.
So much evil hidden in the frames of the word "compassionate."
ReplyDeleteI used to wonder what kind of "God" these fundies worshiped. Then I realized that it really wasn't any sort of divine principle. It was really their abusive fathers. Now the abused are doing their utmost to become the abusers. In the name of pleasing Daddy.
ReplyDeleteThe Supreme Court on Tuesday cleared the way for Chrysler LLC's sale to Fiat, turning down a last-ditch bid by opponents that included consumer groups and three Indiana pension plans. The court rejected a plea to block the sale of most of Chrysler's assets to the Italian automaker. Chrysler, Fiat and the Obama administration had warned that the high court's intervention could have scuttled the sale.
ReplyDeleteWonder why they didn't scuttle the AIG and Citibank money grabs.
I just finished watching Rachel Maddow's piece on President Obama's foot dragging on Gay Rights at HuffPo. What I found just as interesting was the reaction by a number of Liberal Progressives who were giving her hell for criticizing him. It's remarkable how much they sounded like the NeoCons going after Bush's critics.
ReplyDeleteOh well, as the old saying goes, "the more things change, the more they stay the same."
Ten of the nation's largest banks will be allowed to repay $68 billion in federal aid granted at the height of the financial crisis, the Treasury Department announced.
ReplyDeleteThat never happened under Bush the Depressionist.
Moron said "Where is Bart/Worf when you need him? Larry is now the voice of LC and has the delete button.Its really sad how far this blog has fallen."
ReplyDeleteOr, to put it another way: Hey, Larry, thanks for keeping the blog going!
Im sorry I havent been able to post as much as of late but real life has this way of intruding. Hopefully soon ...
For that matter, thanks to clif, Frank, and Mike too.
ReplyDeleteRusty, you can crawl back into your kennel now.
Today a typical Republican went on a shooting spree at a simple museum.
ReplyDeleteMore of their brand of compassion.
RIGHT WING TERRORISTS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY.
ReplyDeleteToday we saw another example of this.
But for some reason the reich-wing doesn't want to call it Terrorism, which is definitely is.
Rusty shouldnt be allowed to have a voice here, NO ONE wants him here or respects him particulary the blog hostess and Admin...........ALL this piece of right wing sludge EVER does is attack and insult people and push closed minded regresssive bigoted, sexist, hatespeak.
ReplyDeleteHe does not deserve a voice all he does is take the level of discussion into the gutter where him and his associates reside.
Just look at duncetrons "blog if you want to see a hamfisted defense of RIGHT WING MURDERERS and TERRORISTS.
ReplyDeleteRight Wing pieces of sludge like Roeder, Kopp etc..........need to be captured and locked up for life, killed or whatever but their days of lierally getting away with murder and denying their fellowing citizens their lawful rights by throwing a muderous, violent temper tantrum NEED to end.
ReplyDeleteWhats said is that these MURDEROUS RIGHT WING DOMESTIC TERRORISTS flourished and thrived under the lack of enforcement that occured under the treasouns bush administration.
So not only did the biggest National Security failure in our countrys history occur under GWB.......but GWB's administration also selectively turned a blind eye essentially condoning and blessing Right Wing terrorists targeting abortion clinics.
So next time Cheney tries to CLAIM he protected this country and made it safer look at the unprescedented legacy of failure and how the repugs supported the terrorists rather than ofering REAL solutions or protecting victims.
How did a man who did time for attempted kidnapping of public officials get a gun?
ReplyDeleteHe was a convicted felon which means he lost his right to own or posses any firearms, so how did he get the rifle?
I was in the area when Doctor Slepian was murdered by another Right wing Idiot.........I was in the area the night it happened......I knew where the sniper parked his car..........I knew EXACTLY where the snipers nest was, as I regularly cut and chopped wood there, I can vividly picture it.........I was there after the murder and talked to devasted family members.
ReplyDeletethere is NO EXCUSE or justification for this dispicable cowardly hippocritical behavior these people need to be killed or put in jail for life.....but most certainly they need to be taken more seriously.
I urge EVERYONE to pressure their Congressional Reps and the Obama Admin to crack down on this crap ASAP.
Bottom line these pieces of dirt are murder American citizens excercising their lawful rights simply because they dont agree.
Why do Right wingers always want to murder, kill, bomb, deny others freedoms and legal rights they dont agree with or approve of..........yet they CLAIM only they hold the moral high ground and are patriotic.
Blogger clif said...
ReplyDeleteHow did a man who did time for attempted kidnapping of public officials get a gun?
He was a convicted felon which means he lost his right to own or posses any firearms, so how did he get the rifle?"
EXACTLY despite Cheneys LIES.......his record on fighting terrorism and protecting american citizens and keeping them safe is an abomination.
Seems the reich-wing is angry NOT the liberals unlike how the attention seeker framed it.
ReplyDeleteI have this one question for my Right Wing associates...........since you guys were SO COMFORTABLE with American itizens being spied on and alleged terrorist being tortured..........do you clowns support these people being spied upon and thrown in jail and/or tortured...........or do Right Wing birds of a feather stick together?
ReplyDeleteWonder if your rascist views relegate torture ONLY to Muslims.
ReplyDeleteBlogger MCH said...
ReplyDeleteMoron said "Where is Bart/Worf when you need him? Larry is now the voice of LC and has the delete button.Its really sad how far this blog has fallen."
Or, to put it another way: Hey, Larry, thanks for keeping the blog going!
Im sorry I havent been able to post as much as of late but real life has this way of intruding. Hopefully soon ..."
yeah, i've been real busy as well.........its good to see almost everyone back on this thread though.
Reich wing extremism certainly should be called what it really is;
ReplyDeleteScott Roeder, republican, shot and killed a doctor he disagreed with, during a church service.
James Von Brunn, republican, white supremist, kills guard at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC.
James G. Cummings, republican, trust fund millionaire, American Nazi sympathizer, wife abuser, was shot dead by his wife. Authorities say they found Cummings basement full of material to make a dirty bomb for which Cummings intended on using on innocent American citizens.
Jim D. Adkisson, deranged republican, who publicly railed against gays and liberals shoots and kills two people and seriously injuring five other people inside a Church his wife attended.
Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park bomber for setting off a bomb in Atlanta’s Olympic Park, is responsible for bombing numerous abortion clinics in the South and guilty of killing two Americans while injuring 150 other innocent Americans.
Timothy McVeigh, ultra right wing republican, guilty of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Killing 168 innocent men, women and children
TERRORISM ........ plain and simple.
Good list but you forgot James Kopp the Right Wing piece of dirt that murdered doctor Slepian in Buffalo.
ReplyDeleteThe danger from the delusional, "nativist" Klanservative right wing was driven home today in the Holocaust museum, where a Freeper "birther" acted on the information provided to him by Beck, Limbaugh, and FOX "News."
ReplyDeleteThere will be more of them. I, myself, own weapons and I'm not bad with them. Maybe you, wherever you are, should consider joining the ranks of the armed, because this nightmare is only beginning. The Klanservatives, like an angry month-old baby, are willing to destroy everything around them. They always have been; examples abound throughout history, from Adolf Hitler to Kim Jong Il (he may call himself a "communist," but his policy of letting his people die while he slugs back the imported cognac in one of his many palaces puts him squarely in the right wing vein of thinking) to Chimpy and Cheney. They will either have it their way, or no way.
Blogger Jolly Roger said...
ReplyDeleteThe danger from the delusional, "nativist" Klanservative right wing was driven home today in the Holocaust museum, where a Freeper "birther" acted on the information provided to him by Beck, Limbaugh, and FOX "News."
There will be more of them. I, myself, own weapons and I'm not bad with them. Maybe you, wherever you are, should consider joining the ranks of the armed, because this nightmare is only beginning. The Klanservatives, like an angry month-old baby, are willing to destroy everything around them. They always have been; examples abound throughout history, from Adolf Hitler to Kim Jong Il (he may call himself a "communist," but his policy of letting his people die while he slugs back the imported cognac in one of his many palaces puts him squarely in the right wing vein of thinking) to Chimpy and Cheney. They will either have it their way, or no way."
Yep I couldnt agree more JR.
Lydia said "I am raising sons, tweenage boys, and I am hearing things you cannot believe on a daily basis that are going on in middle school."
ReplyDeleteLOL............you should have went to my Middle School :D
Clif thank you for putting that list together. It's so sad, all that hatred.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking about how many horrifying killings have happened. This is the worst kind of terrorism
But good always wins throughout history.
Lydia you need to keep this Right Wing terrorism and the MURDER of Doctor Tiller in the limelight so Washington starts cracking down on this crap.
ReplyDeleteSome quotes to ponder.
ReplyDelete"I'd rather be strong than right."
James von Brunn
"Truth not Tolerance"
Assemblies of God Church Bumper Sticker.
"Tolerance is a sign of weakness."
Motto above the entrance to the head quarters of the SS Deaths Head Group at Dachau.
"We have just enough religion to make us hate but not enough to love one another. "
Jonathan Swift
See you all tomorrow.
clif said...
ReplyDeletexxxxx xxxx extremism certainly should be called what it really is;
Scott Roeder, republican, shot and killed a doctor he disagreed with, during a church service. Being anti-abortion doesn't automatically make one a republican clif. Please show me your source for his political affiliation. All I can find is that he was nuts and wouldn't take his medicine...
James Von Brunn, republican, Navy vet, white supremist, kills guard at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC. Oh I see, one of those 9/11 truthers who hate Bush and neocons...a republican like Frank Fey I suppose...
James G. Cummings, republican, trust fund millionaire, American Nazi sympathizer, wife abuser, was shot dead by his wife. Authorities say they found Cummings basement full of material to make a dirty bomb for which Cummings intended on using on innocent American citizens. Actually clif, he was attempting to join the national socialist movement. Kinda makes him a NAZI not a republican...
Jim D. Adkisson, deranged republican, Army vet, who publicly railed against gays and liberals shoots and kills two people and seriously injuring five other people inside a Church his wife attended. still can't find a political affiliation listed. Still, I'll give you this one since he obviously did hate liberals. Of course that probably makes him more of a conservative than a republican these days...
Eric Rudolph, Army vet, the Olympic Park bomber for setting off a bomb in Atlanta’s Olympic Park, is responsible for bombing numerous abortion clinics in the South and guilty of killing two Americans while injuring 150 other innocent Americans. Again, can't find a political affiliation listed. I guess since he's a religeous nut that makes him a republican?
Timothy McVeigh, ultra right wing republican, Army vet, guilty of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Killing 168 innocent men, women and children
odd that he called himself a libertarian and evidently voted that way...
TERRORISM ........ plain and simple.
So is it only republicans believe in god cliffy? Or maybe military veterans are nuts?
Evangelicals on the extreme right always forget to bring the spirit of love with them. Love is God. Period.
ReplyDeleteOf course you did forget to mention the Unabomber, Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dorhn and the more recent guy who murdered a military recruiter.
ReplyDeleteHow about the huge amounts of damage caused by groups like ALF and ELF?
You mean like the good reverund Wright or Farrakhan Lydia?
ReplyDeleteHow about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson?
BTW cliffy, I don't have the time or inclination to do so, but if I wanted to compile a list of left wing killers we BOTH know it'd be twice as long as anything you might come up with.
ReplyDeleteYou mean like the good reverund Wright or Farrakhan Lydia?
ReplyDeleteHow about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson?
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Blogger Voltron said...
BTW cliffy, I don't have the time or inclination to do so, but if I wanted to compile a list of left wing killers we BOTH know it'd be twice as long as anything you might come up with."
BWAHAHAHAHAA..........Bill Ayers........ Right wing terrorists are killing people presently in the here and now and Simple Simon is STILL talking about Bill Ayers a guy from about 50 years ago............FIFTY YEARS.......HALF A CENTURY AGO......is that all you got duncetron, thats even MORE PATHETIC than your a Demacrat allegedly mollested children once like 30 years ago attempt to minimize and deflect from Marc Foley Molesting Children in modern times.
You know "modern times" after the Nazis that much of the Reich Wing supported were removed from power and after leisure suits and after the Inquisitions where your kind tortured at will and murdered people who didnt admit the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth............I guess that would be after the good ole days for the Reich Wing.
I'd love to see you try and make the case there are MORE left Wing terrorists than Right Wing terrorists..............your a joke Volty I guess you cant cure stupid huh?
ReplyDeleteOh and isnt it "CUTE" who you idiots try and rewrite history and make the Right Wing patsie Oswald a Left Winger.......but then I think that was the "INTENTION" of the Right Wing terrorists who selected him to be their patsie.
You repugs are SO DELUDED and out of touch with mainstream America.....its like you got dropped on your heads and birth and are walking around braindamaged ever since.
ReplyDeleteI see you clowns still havent answered my question from last night so i'll post it again for you non Mensa regressives.
ReplyDeleteI have this one question for my Right Wing associates...........since you guys were SO COMFORTABLE with American citizens being spied on and alleged terrorist being tortured..........do you clowns support these people being spied upon and thrown in jail and/or tortured...........or do Right Wing birds of a feather stick together?
As usual duncetron runs his moth but has NO thing to back it up with,
ReplyDeleteJust like when he LIED and said he was going to Iraq in 2006 but never made it.
Or when he said his non-SON was going to join the military but never did.
Runs his mouth a lot but never has the back up as usual.
*sigh*
ReplyDeleteThere are volumes available about Roeder's involvement with the Freemen and the Oath-Keepers.
Please, Dolty, PLEASE try to wiggle out of that one. If you can name me even one known liberal/leftist to ever belong to either group, I'll shut up and post here no more.
You aren't even entertaining anymore.
Its like trying to debate a person with brain damage JR.........i think most repugs were dropped on their heads as babies.
ReplyDeleteNotice how these Right Wing IDiots go silent as a church mouse when you ask them if they would support Roeder being waterboarded.
ReplyDeleteRoeder wouldn't last as long as "Mancow" did.
ReplyDeleteDolty's "there is no proof" bullsh*t is the same bullshit being hawked on his favorite "news" channel almost continuously now. I have noted, however, that Dolty's favorite "news" channel also glosses over these guys' associations, while they try to turn these right wing murderous scumbags to their advantage by playing "persecuted conservative."
ReplyDeleteIt's bullsh*t, and no number of Dolty's volumes of Beck-supplied talking points will equate Sharpton to Roeder, no matter how hard he tries.
Or "anybody" who celebrates the Nazis atrocities to liberals.
ReplyDeleteIt just shows the desperation of the reich wing now a days.
Yep the very fact that Dolty is "TRYING" to DEFEND, deflect and minimize the Right Wing terrorism shows he actually does support it it on some level of else him and his masters wouldnt be working SO HARD to lie, deceive people and dishonestly assign these dirtbags to the left.
ReplyDeleteThe Right wing has turned into a sad pathetic joke and if people werent dying because of these evil terrorists and criminals they would truly be laughable..............unfortunayely these imbeciles are dangerous and NEED to be taken seriously.
ReplyDeleteThe Arctic is on course to break the minimum ice record set in 2007 .... the minimum amount ever recorded till this year probably.
ReplyDeleteAGW marches on even if some still deny it.
Blogger clif said...
ReplyDeleteThe Arctic is on course to break the minimum ice record set in 2007 .... the minimum amount ever recorded till this year probably.
AGW marches on even if some still deny it."
People on the fringe Right Wing deny it Clif, just like they TRY and deny and defend the terrorists in their midst......and just like their ancestots denied the earth was round or killed people who disagreed with this flawed ideology.
I do not advocate anyone talking about using guns EVER.
ReplyDeleteOur whole purpose in this life is to learn to love one another.
These clowns have playing "persecuted conservative" down to a science..........other that and lying which are really one and the same is really all these morons do.
ReplyDeleteOoops, I changed the headline on Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeleteThis has gotten out of hand!
I am updating new post with some shocking info..
Let's all send harmonious, loving thoughts to our "enemies" and pray for those who need to be enlightened.
Love one another