Below is a wonderful poem Audrey Hepburn wote when asked to share her 'beauty tips.' It was read at her funeral years later.
For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.
For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.
For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.
For beautiful hair, let a child run his/her fingers through it once a day.
For poise, walk with the knowledge that you never walk alone.
People, more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed.
Never throw out anyone.
Remember, if you ever need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of each of your arms.
As you grow older, you will discover that you have two hands; one for helping yourself,
And the other for helping others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This was an email I received to send to all my beautiful woman friends, but EVERY WOMAN IS BEAUTIFUL, so this is for you.
Audrey Hepburn has always been my all-time favorite female celebrity.
Share this with another woman and you will boost another woman's self esteem, and she will know that you care about her.
Every person has a spark of divinity built into their very molecules which is compelled to make a major contribution. Like a blueprint you were born with, this unique gift works through you and is committed to lifting the suffering of others through the expression of a specific virtue. When you are living in alignment with your blueprint, invisible hands seem to assist your every effort.
- from the Amazing Darren Gibson's website.
If news is not really news unless it is bad news, it may be difficult to claim we are an informed nation. - Norman Cousins, editor of Saturday Review
"Give up the need to be more, better or different. Give up wanting to be like or liked by someone else."
And here is my other favorite actress of all time: Julie Christie, pictured here in Dr. Zhivago
I hate to use this space for doing this, but I think it's important to mention, since our own media seems to be hellbent on underreporting it.
ReplyDeleteThere has been yet another right wing terror attack in America. This one killed a 9 year old girl.
This is getting scary serious, folks.
Thats ttagic JR............these are truly sick, twisted and deluded people both the Right Wing Terrorists and their supporters who pretend they arent supporters and try and pin these wack jobs on the left.
ReplyDeleteMike, our media failed to do its job clear back in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing. If they'd been the least bit diligent, they'd have had a good, long look at McVeigh's buddies down in Elohim City in Oklahoma, and they'd have found out that McVeigh had himself a whole lot of support for his operations.
ReplyDeleteThe Oklahoma City bombing was NOT just the work of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, although they surely both acted as the principals. The casing of the Murrah building, the methodology used to take it out, and the cover-up of the conspiracy afterward was planned and handled by people who still are, for all I know, active with the white separatist movement. And no one should make the mistake of believing that people like the "minutemen" aren't heavily intertwined with the people who brought us Oklahoma City; they ARE.
That is so tragic JR.
ReplyDeleteIs anyone putting this all together in the MSM?
Thank you for your research and posting.
The MSM, for some reason, doesn't want to. But the information isn't exactly what I'd call hard to find. I will have more on this very soon; I think it's important to understand Elohim City and how many different tentacles have emanated from it.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking forward to your post JR........I'm not familiar with what your talking about but I think these connections NEED to come to light and we need to pressure government and law enforcement to take down these terrorists and their supporters.
ReplyDeleteTim Mcveigh was from Buffalo the city I grew up in and from what I have heard he had his own litle "militia" up there.......I think you are 100% right these idiots were NOT working alone they had plenty of support.
nice job jr,
ReplyDeleteyou sourced a truncated article. her own mother denounced her, and she had been in trouble with the very right wing nutjobs she claimed to have been working for because she was a loon. yup, right winger. yup, crazy idiot. yeah, absolutely horrible. but not any more an accurate sample of the group than the rioters after the game last night are Lakers.
btw, judging from voting data, they were most likely democrates. thought i would point that out.
big k
I'm boycotting Cafe Press. Freedom of speech is one thing but this is just plain sick ...
ReplyDeletehttp://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/eliminationist-gear-cafe-press-scott-ro
Another day another racist email from a GOPer
ReplyDeleteNice denial, kevin, but what else would we expect? You guys are spinning faster than a diamond drill trying to deny the activities of your ideological brethren.
ReplyDeletekevin the illeterate inbred misspelled,
ReplyDeletebtw, judging from voting data, they were most likely democrates. thought i would point that out.
Someone has finally surpassed dolty in the "stupid" category.
I have some of the information on Elohim City up tonight, complete with links for your educational pleasure.
ReplyDeleteIf you haven't looked into it, do so. You will find that a hell of a lot of information on Elohim City, and those who hang out there, is coming not from leftist bloggers like me, but university, law enforcement, and local newspaper sources.
Look at kevin the inbred IDIOT spewing Rush Limbaugh BS.........that the terrorist murdering people are left wingers..........sorry bud but EVERYONE knows its Right wing terrorist extremists that are murdering people just like they know Right Wingers like YOU and rush and liars that are full of shit.
ReplyDeleteI dont know if you are the BIG K that was here 4 years ago but.......judgeing by your intelect and talking points your a guy who would bring a knife to a gun fight just like the repug IDIOTS that haunt this blog do regularly with their LACK of intelligence and ignorance...........your none too smart Kev.......so my bet is you have been knuckle dragging your way in here for 4 years now and you haven learned a damn thing or gotten any smarter which is truly sad.
I'll check that out right now JR!
ReplyDeletewow, i am completely derailed by spelling. my nemesis. they are truly a dumbass that hinges their argument on that one. it means you have nothing else.
ReplyDeletelook, the chick was a looney right winger. i never said otherwise. both mike and jr missed that. because you neanderthalls cant read. dont blame me because you were born with a single digit iq. maybe that is why your demoncrats.
my two points were, and they still stand, was that she is not well liked on my side of the fence either, and that you did not source a full article. because you are reading filtered stuff. because you dont do your homework. because you are that damn stupid and gullible that the people writing from the source you sent know you wont look any further.
big k
and mike,
ReplyDeleteyou dont remember me, so let be be clear. i would bring a bigger gun to a gun fight.
the main point i have is there are people on your side of the fence who are no better when it comes to using violence. they have always been there, and people like you who deny it are simply ignorant of the truth. any time people get as frothing at the mouth as you guys are there is potential for violence. and you are plenty unhinged.
big k
i am the big k from a few years ago. btw. i thought i would check up on you guys, just because.
ReplyDeleteand it seems that you have picked up were worfeaus left off in terms of the rabid dog mentality. except you are not as good at it as he was, and that isnt saying much. he was a lying idiot.
at least you grew a fucking pair. you were a bit of a wuss before.
big k
The limited gene pool has left kevin utterly unable to decipher any information that doesn't get imparted to him from a dope addict in Florida.
ReplyDeleteCousins may make dozens, but the cost isn't worth it.
Blogger Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteand mike,
you dont remember me, so let be be clear. i would bring a bigger gun to a gun fight.
the main point i have is there are people on your side of the fence who are no better when it comes to using violence. they have always been there, and people like you who deny it are simply ignorant of the truth. any time people get as frothing at the mouth as you guys are there is potential for violence. and you are plenty unhinged.
big k
First of all STUPID......you were LITERALLY advocating bringing a knife to a gunfight and you wore your ignorance like a badge of honor.........so either your not the real Big k........or else like a typical repug you CHOOSE to forget your own idiocy and hippocrissy.
Secondly and more important THERE ARE NOT TERRORISTS ON THE LEFT MURDERING PEOPLE IN CURRENT TIMES........thats a slimy right wing lie aimed at deceiving the ignorant, muddying the watters and deflecting the responsibility and blame from where it REALLY belongs the fringe extremist Right Wing who ARE THE ONES MURDERING PEOPLE THEY DONT LIKE OR AGREE WITH.
See Simple Simon people on "my side of the fence" arent going around murdering people........despite the lies of ignorant evil Volksturm like Rush and you who defend and support these pieces of terrorist sludge subtly, covertly and in cowardly incognito form because you dont have the courage to do it openly.
Sure you say you dont agree with murder then you qualify it with a million terms and justifications that your not really upset, the person who was murdered was an evil babykiller........it wasnt really a Right Winger who killed him blah blah blah.
See you inbred Right wing trolls keep spewing the Rush lies/talking points that these terrorists were left wing and both the left and right have extrtemists...........but the fact is NO ONE believes your BS lies anymore.
ReplyDeleteAnd like I said Big K I most certainly remember you...........YOu were the IDIOT advocating bringing a knife to a gun fight........that kind of idiocy is hard to forget.
ReplyDeleteAnd widdle K she was NOT just a fringe player,
ReplyDeleteshe was part of FAIR and part of the racist hate filled anti imigration groups like the "minute men",
You know astroturf groups reich-wingers create to make the dishonest claim they have a grassroots movement behind them;
IE; the racists and bigots employed by the John Tanton Network that are part of the GOper base st Sarah played to in her helping st johnny the delusional LOSE because the majority of Americans saw you idiots for the bone heads you have always been.
So as usual you lied here like most reich-wing trolls do ..... go back to claiming knives are more dangerous then guns, stupid.
wow, bringing up conversation from 4 years ago. awesome. lets not get into that old stuff. we have other business at hand.
ReplyDeletei mentioned this on another thread, but the predominant party of gang members is.....drumroll please...... democrats. you forgot about that one, huh? and they do more damage than a couple of nut jobs on the right. that chick is a minor player. she thought she was more than that, but she simply had a big mouth. and the minutemen didnt like her either, for being a nut job and not following the rules. and her mother denounced what she was doing. you missed it, BECAUSE YOU DONT QUESTION YOUR SOURCES!!! the whole reason i visit sites like this is to question my information and make sure i am seeing as much of it as possible. i doubt you can say the same thing. but i am ignorant and stupid, only because i dont agree with you guys.
nice deflection by bringing up that old crap. i am the original big k, and i remember you being a crying little girl before who worf had to come rescue a few times. even lydia was more man than you buddy.
heres another story for you about violent lefties. i was on another blog like this and apparently pissed of a gay group. the facilitator of the blog threatened to post my information so that the pink pistols could come by my house and pay me a visit. i remember lydia getting pretty upset that someone did that to her once and the consequences were very upsetting for her. dont tell me that every one of you guys are peaceful. its a crock.
wow clif. nice 4 page screed that has no refferences. they guy throws out a name, says he is a racist, and we have no idea who he is or what he does to deserve this, and there you go. and there are examples of this on your side. peter lewis, soros, and the like do the exact same thing. if anything that guy learned how to buy influence from them.
ReplyDeleteeven if they are raging jackass racists, and it is true they are "astroturf" organizations, would that not prove my point that they are not indicative of the group (meaning right wingers)? or did you with your staggering intellect not think of that? and lastly, as ignorant and short sighted as racism is, it does not mean these people are those groups are advocating violence. you hate me probably as much as they do the object of their ire, and are you ready to break into my house and shoot me? think about this stuff guys. just because people dont agree with you doesnt make them evil be default. use those supposedly superior brains and think for a bit.
big k
kevin the inbred troll lied,
ReplyDeletethe whole reason i visit sites like this is to question my information and make sure i am seeing as much of it as possible.
What bullshit. I am pretty damned comfortable with the sources of information I have on the "Minuteman" murderers. I realize that my sources aren't Rush, but about 93% of us know that Rush is a dope addict lying gasbag. The other 7% are too stupid to be taken seriously. They can't even tell a good lie, as you demonstrate above.
Go back home to your sister/wife, troll.
hey jr,
ReplyDeletewhere did i say i was listening to rush? he is on right now, and i am not listening to him. i have not caught his program in quite some time. you can feel comfortable all you want with your censored information, the fact is you missed part of the article because you are getting your info from someone no better than rush but with a viewpoint you agree with. simply google a few sentences of the article you started the thread with, and you can find the rest of it. that is all i did. and you can get a full version without someone telling you what to think about it too.
nice dig on the wife too. really shows your intellegence and maturity. i guess that slays me right there. i cant call someone a poopy head or equivalent, so i must be unqualified to discuss these things. the worst part is i think that is all you got. which is why only 2 or 3 people stay here for a while. the rest get tired of the schoolyard antics and go somewhere looking for real discourse.
and yes, i do go to many different blogs and sources for information. i even read al-jazeera, or as much as i can stomach. daily kos, bradblog. you name it, i have been there. this on top of a few sites of people i like. just to keep things interesting. its funny, here i am, proof of what i say, and you still think i would lie about seeking alternative views. i thought this site said that us red staters should come here because lydia would bridge the gap and make people feel included and blah blah blah. you really dont believe your own crap, do you.
big k
Hey Big K! Long time no see...
ReplyDeleteBTW, not to ruin you guys day or anything but have you seen the latest gallup poll that shows the largest ideological voting bloc is conservatives at 40%?
Quite a good showing for a group you've called dead or dying.
Yeah but we're probably second you libtards say? Not so.
You came in third at a mere 21%, behind even the moderates who placed at 35%...
Read it and weep
Senator John Ensign, Republican of Nevada, admitted Tuesday that he had an extramarital affair with a member of his campaign staff.
ReplyDeleteThis is the same Republican hypocrite who chastised Clinton for his affairs.
Those Repugs and their smug values of morality just can't stop their everlasting fornication!
BTW John Ensign is cheating on his wife, something he wanted to IMPEACH the Clenis for doing.
ReplyDeleteSen. John Ensign of Nevada, a conservative Republican with evident presidential ambitions, abruptly announced Tuesday he carried on an extramarital affair for much of last year with a woman on his campaign staff, a confession that jarred his scandal-weary state as well as his party.
GOPers=LYING HYPOCRITES
QED
dolty knows that his poll disagrees with nearly every other poll-and, far more importantly, EVERY GENERAL ELECTION RESULT SINCE 2006. dolty also knows that about 1 in 4 of us call ourselves Rushpublican. So, why does he do this? He's trying to feed his other trolls. The problem is, the only thing on dolty's menu is sh*t. That's fine for his trolls, but far less than palatable for the rest of us.
ReplyDeletedolty, I remember how your ilk would blare every new Zogby poll that supposedly showed how Palin was gonna throw the election to McCain. I tried to tell you idiots then that you were full of it, but you don't listen to anything not coming out of Limbaugh's a$$.
Oh and Jr,
ReplyDeleteDisclaimer: I am in no way employed by or associated with the Gallup organization.
So I guess it's not MY poll...
It's getting hard to find "progressives" these days Rusty.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Newsweak have a splash on their cover awhile back claiming "We're all socialists now!"???
Looks like I spoke too soon...LOL
ReplyDeleteIt appears the ghost of "Jackie" is watching.
ReplyDeleteBTW John Ensign is cheating on his wife, something he wanted to IMPEACH the Clenis for doing.
ReplyDeleteGOPers=LYING HYPOCRITES
QED
BTW, Ensign was telling Larry Craig to resign for his fancy foot work in a mens room .... while he was shagging another dudes wife, cheating on his own wife ......
ReplyDeletetalk about a hypocrite.
Rushpublicans love them some hypocrisy. Just look at how they drool over their 400 pound dope addict leader. He's a great gol durned Uhmuhrican!
ReplyDelete400 pound dope addict? You talkin
ReplyDeleteabout your mom again JR?
Nope. And as an added plus, my mother wasn't a sibling. Sorry about you.
Why don't you break with that tradition and stop bending your sister over? You inbreds procreate entirely too much. If you promise to stop humping your sister, I may stop slamming your 400 pound Jesus.
crusty the inbred coward drooled,
ReplyDeleteI understand you surrender
monkeys have a tedency to run
away.
I wore the uniform, while the most a piece of sh*t like you ever did was slap a magnet on your car and cheer the war on from the comfort of your La-Z-Boy. crusty, everybody knows that you all worship "Deferment Dick" Cheney because in your world, he was "too smart" to get tricked into wearing the uniform.
kevin the walking waste receptacle regurgitated,
ReplyDeletegood post will, i was thinking spitzer when i read everyone else here. we could talk about "refrigerator" jefferson and how about the idiots who re-elected him. but i get the feeling that we are in the midst of such sophisticants.
2 major differences here. (1.) is that we strongly condemn corruption wherever it may be, while you strongly condemn anybody who dares to call your Deities out on it. (2.) is that in sheer quantity, your heroes have the dems licked by a country mile. But you keep trying to spin those isloated examples into a strawman you can beat on.
Using the sock puppets again I see Volt/Crusty.........in the pathetic attempt to make your shrill screeching louder.
ReplyDeleteIn case anyone DIDNT KNOW Kevin/Big k is a sock puppet just like Cosmic Cowboy and Hippy Joe..........Nice try repugs.
I suspected it, but I didn't know. Thanks Mike.
ReplyDeleteah, i get it.
ReplyDeleteno i am not a "sock puppet" as you say. just sitting at home looking for a job and quite board.
try again dumbass.
big k.
this is weird, my posts are dissapearing. i hope they are not being taken down or something.
ReplyDelete"refrigerator" jefferson was re-elected jr. that is not "strongly condemning" him, that is affermation. and it was done by enough people that it is not a stereotype, but policy. by contrast, cunningham sits in a jail cell for similar offenses right now. that is strong condemnation. you might want to grab a dictionary before throwing those terms around.
and mike, please. you have nothing to contribute. just sit there and try not to drool on your moms keyboard.
big k.
Don't feel bad, Kevin. My post about Biden (Mr. Compassion) giving a mere three tenths of one percent of his income to charity was taken down, too. Thou shalt not have the audacity to criticize a Democrat is evidently the 11th commandment here.
ReplyDeleteHey folks check out
ReplyDeletewww.bloodandpolitics.com
BTW, it seems like another tactic the Reichwing is using is to blame the KGB.
I'll say one thing for the Nazis. At least they were open and honest about what they were doing.
Blogger Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteah, i get it.
no i am not a "sock puppet" as you say. just sitting at home looking for a job and quite board.
try again dumbass.
big k."
NO YOU try again dumbass..........because i'm not buying what your selling..........your just a sock puppet troll trying to make your screeching lies louder by using more sock puppets to babble the same thing in unison.........that and your also trying to disrupt the blog by using a sock puppet to try and bait Worf into coming back here.
sorry little troll but your as transparent as can be.
Blogger Kevin said...
ReplyDeletethis is weird, my posts are dissapearing. i hope they are not being taken down or something.
"refrigerator" jefferson was re-elected jr. that is not "strongly condemning" him, that is affermation. and it was done by enough people that it is not a stereotype, but policy. by contrast, cunningham sits in a jail cell for similar offenses right now. that is strong condemnation. you might want to grab a dictionary before throwing those terms around.
and mike, please. you have nothing to contribute. just sit there and try not to drool on your moms keyboard.
big k."
Gee maybe you should take the hint loser and realize no ones buying what your selling and your probably not wanted here..............Your the one with NOTHING to contribute and your not fooling anyone cept maybe Will that your Big K..........now go sit in a corner and put on a pointy hat and become irrelevant just like your mastes you worship are halfwit.
There is a glitch in Blogger and posts have been disappearing.
ReplyDeleteI never take down posts unless they are offensive, inciting violence, racist or using foul language.
Sorry for the glitch.
I have no idea what happened. I haven't been here all day to check on the blog until now.
One of the biggest problems that I've had over the years with the Sovereign States Movement is the fact that it seems to have been infiltrated and now dominated by some of the most hardcore white supremacists around. The White Nationalist Movement is very much alive and has latched onto the whole Sovereign States/10th Amendment movement.
ReplyDeleteThe original intent of the 10th Amendment, IMO, was to provide a check and balance against the Federal Government. Ever since it was passed, it seems like Washington has been trying to narrow it down and limit it as much as possible. Throughout a lot of our history some of our most important legal precedents were set as a result of this especially in the field of human rights.
I think that the death knell of the 10th Amendment was sounded on March 21st, 1861 when Alexander H. Stephens, Vice President of the newly formed Confederate States of America made the following statement.
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth that the Negro is not equal to the White Man; that slavery and subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first in the history of the world based on this great physical, philosophical and moral truth."
After this increasingly States Rights became equated with racism. It's a shame, really, because originally it served a good purpose.
RIP Dad, i'll be back in Florida soon!
ReplyDeletemike,
ReplyDeletewhen i say that you are not contributing, i mean that you are simply deflecting. what the hell is the sock puppet crap about? why on earth would someone go through posts of a bunch of years ago just so they can pose as some guy that maybe no one remembers anyway? it has been 3 or 4 years now. sheesh. aparently i got under your skin though. all those times calling you a little girl must have really hurt. hehe. you liberals are so fragile.
and about wanting worf back. i could care less if i ever talk to that lying idiot again. i was hoping nothing happened to the guy, but as long as it hasnt, i am fine right here calling you a little girl. it works for me.
thanks lydia about the missing posts. i know we never saw eye to eye or anything, but i always thought you were respectable. its good to know that my faith is not in vain there. now all i have to do is get mike to lay off his crack pipe long enough for the adults to talk.
so back to mike. lets recap. i have brought up "the fridge" jefferson, being threatened by a liberal group with physical harm to me and my family in a similar way that lydia was, that there are other lefties that are violent people and that is not simply a right wing thing and given examples. and mike has said i am stupid, married to my sister, and a sock puppet.
i think that i win. unless, little girl, you have something to say that is meaningfull. i am doubting it. i really think you have to concentrate to breath. i honestly think you are impared in some way. prove me wrong. prove you are able to formulate a coherent statement. just one.
big k
mike, its weird. you pulled the same crap years ago too. you kept thinking i was ann coulter or some senator or something. mike, there are, what, 4 people here!! and all the time that i checked in to see if something interesting was going on it seemed about the same. really, lydia may be big enough on the radio to get people to come on her show, but her blog is hardly kos. seriously. no one is trying to fool you, important people are not trying to trick you into thinking they are someone else. but you really are stupid AND arrogant enough to think they are, dont you?
ReplyDeleteYou see what human shit these guys truly are Lydia take a good long look and decide if these are the people you want associated with your blog..............people that slther in here as sock puppets to mock and taunt someone whose father just passed away.
ReplyDeleteAnd as for you Crusty/"Big K"............for once in your pathetic life worm be a damn man and stand behind what your big fat mouth says...............see mouth you wouldnt be shooting off your god damn mouth or claiming you "won" if we were face to face.
i'll probably be in Vegas later this year.........we'll see what a big man you are if and when we're face to face because i'll guarentee you wont be shooting off your big fat mouth then little man.........now go Fu@# yourself you pathetic worm.......i've had all i'm going to take of your slimy gutless sockpuppet routine.
11:24 PM
ReplyDeleteBlogger Kevin said...
mike, its weird. you pulled the same crap years ago too. you kept thinking i was ann coulter or some senator or something. mike, there are, what, 4 people here!! and all the time that i checked in to see if something interesting was going on it seemed about the same. really, lydia may be big enough on the radio to get people to come on her show, but her blog is hardly kos. seriously. no one is trying to fool you, important people are not trying to trick you into thinking they are someone else. but you really are stupid AND arrogant enough to think they are, dont you?"
Actually asswipe.........the TRUTH something you inbred repug imbeciles cant even recognize is I NEVER even talked to you.........i'll say this slow so even a Simple Simon like you can understand..........that means I if I never talked to you then I NEVER accused you of being some Senator or Ann Coulter.
Lastly I would hardly categorize a douchebag troll like you as "important people" Rusty.........so slither back under your rock or bridge troll and go FU$% yourself!
Oh and for the record I dont THINK your rusty and not Big k...........I KNOW!
ReplyDeleteso back to mike. lets recap. i have brought up "the fridge" jefferson, being threatened by a liberal group with physical harm to me and my family in a similar way that lydia was, that there are other lefties that are violent people and that is not simply a right wing thing and given examples.
ReplyDeleteSorry crusty, but it is the right wingers that are killing children, and it's been that way for 30 years. You can't spin that one. They kill little children to finance their white supremacist operations. Or sometimes, like Republican voter McVeigh, they kill children to make a point. And yes, these people are hand-in-glove with the "pro life" movement.
Since the Rushpublicans like to talk about Jefferson and misappropriation of money, I thought it might be interesting for them to explain how one of their "values" champions has been spending Rushpublican money. Some "values," eh?
mike,
ReplyDeletemaybe you are misunderstanding the "coherent statement" challenge. lets assume, just for a moment that i am big k. because it is just ludicrous otherwise, but whatever. do you have something for the subject at hand? or are you unable to contribute in a meaningfull way? i called you stupid, and i mean that in the most sincere way. people throw that around a lot, but really, you are purile, inane, obtuse, nonsensicle, and all around unintellegent. i am asking you to prove me wrong, in some small part by saying something noteworthy. and all you can do is more of the same idiocy. maybe you can talk about something you look up and refference it. hell, you could start with some proof that i am a different person. you dont have any, but you can try to point some out. or you can discuss some of the political stuff we all come here for. anything. try it. screw it up, whatever, but really, name calling doesnt become intellectuals, like those who you think you are.
someone thought i was coulter, if it wasnt you, i am sorry. but it was a few years ago, and i dont feel like looking it up. someone did though. it really struck me as odd back then.
big k
ah!!!
ReplyDeletesee mike, you can learn a thing or two from jr.
30 years of proof is harly 2 people and their stupidity. especially since we as a group do not endorse them. i know you are not going to listen to that, but once again, horrible people come out of our group, we say they are what they are. we try to cut them from positions of power as fast as we can. we want them in jail as bad as you do. and in the case of murdurers, we endorse the death penalty for them the same as anyone else guilty of that crime. you can not say that we gave mcveigh a pass on that one. however, clinton, reno, and company raided a camp in waco texas and killed kids there too. there was no evidence of wrongdoing found afterwards, and both clinton and reno have cried about it on tv. no charges. no jailtime. and they are still liberal favorites. my point that there are monsters on your side of the fence is not quashed. and my further point that you remain intentionally ignorant of it remains equally strong. but good try. mike, seriously. take notes.
big k
oh, and jr,
ReplyDeleteensign is another singular jerk. cheated on his wife. may have done some dirty dealings otherwise. lets see if he is re-elected 7 times like, i dunno, say teddy kennedy. then you will have a point. otherwise, meh, not so much.
and really jr, dont fall for mikes delusions that i am some other guy. i dont know if you were around under a different name some time ago or what, but i am the same big k i was before, sans the hair anyway.
big k.
I have no idea who Kevin is, Mike. Maybe he's Rusty. Maybe he isn't. All I know is that I personally have been falsely accused many, MANY, times; of being some Russian dude, of being something called a "Bartlebee imposter" (THAT is my personal favorite LOL), of making anonymous commentary, of being Nicholas and, YES, tormenting MYSELF!! Bartlebee even implied that I was Voltron, MCH, and Frank Frey. So, I might be willing to give the guy a break and take his word here. At least for a while, no?
ReplyDeleteMike,
ReplyDeleteMy deepest condolences on the passing of your father. I lost mine back in 1996. He was 88 years. He was a good man, a great cop, and one helluva dad. Not a day goes by that I don't think of him and my mom and what they both meant to me.
Peace and solace to you in this trying time.
Thanks Frank............I appreciate it!
ReplyDeletemike,
ReplyDeletei missed that your dad had passed away. i am sorry to hear about your loss. please accept my sincere condolences.
big k
will,
ReplyDeletei am indeed the big k of yesteryear. i said at the time my name was kevin, and now that i am loggin on with my google account that is what my name shows up as. weird how that works. i was an engineering student, now i am looking for engineering work. its all consistant. you can look in the archives to verify all i say if you are extremely board. if you guys dont believe that, it really doesnt matter much anyway.
big k
Kevin,
ReplyDeleteYou didn't miss it. He never mentioned it before that post.
He was losing the argument and needed to pull out a 'get out of jail free' card.
Hey Junior,
ReplyDeleteI note you didn't make this part bold on your hit piece:
"The group is not related to either the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps founded by Chris Simcox, or the Minuteman Project founded by Jim Gilchrist."
You forgot this one too:
"Bush was the suspected shooter,..."
I'm telling you Volt,the Waco
ReplyDeletetradgedy was Bush's fault.He
was in Texas at the time so
you just know that SOB had
some part in the killing of
those children.
volt,
ReplyDeletei saw mike post it. it must have been deleted somehow like i mentioned earlier about my posts, i am not seeing it now. i am surely not fighting over that one. it was just before my 12:10 am post.
seriously mike, i am sorry for your loss.
big k, or whoever i am.
rust,
ReplyDeletei hope you were not serious. the batf and the fbi are both federal agencies, and as such do not answer to state authorities. reno was the direct leader, and clinton made the policy. state troopers told the feds that they had inspected the compound some weeks before and found nothing. the feds pressed on with their own investigation anyway, and the rest is history.
big k
A bit of sarcasm directed at
ReplyDeleteJR...the conspiracy fruitcake.
According to him everything
ReplyDeletebad thats happened the past
10 or 20 years is the fault
of George Bush.
got it, sorry.
ReplyDeletei was in a bit of a serious mood i guess.
i know people like that. they are hillarious. my personal favorite, i had a friend that said that the whole reason the new england patriots were so good is because the govm'nt is fixing the games. just so a team called the "patriots" would win. it was pretty funny to hear her try to reason that one out. i should have recorded it.
big k
I'm a bit surprized we have'nt
ReplyDeletebeen deleted.Someone's asleep
at the wheel.
hey rusty,
ReplyDeletedid you get the news that we are the same person? i never knew that before, that i had another part of myself out there. but i am glad to meet myself here randomly on the internet. i am charmed, i am sure.
big k.
i dunno, lydia says she doens delete stuff on purpose. i believe it. and it hasnt just happened to us. besides, we arent being that bad. if people cant take this, they really should get off their comp.
ReplyDeletebig k
I left a post on Volts blog
ReplyDeleteabout Mikes foaming at the
mouth over who you were.
i didnt know volt had a blog. i would like to visit it. could you point me in that direction?
ReplyDeletebig k
dude foams at the mouth about everything. i would hate to see how he drives, first thing in the morning, or what he is like when he really has to go to the bathroom. sheesh. in the immortal words of bart simpson, "dont have a cow, man."
ReplyDeleterust-eze,
ReplyDeletei got it!! mike, will, and jr are all LYDIA!!!! extreme exposure to liberalism has driven her out of her mind! now she has schizophrenia and all of these personas are expressing themselves in various ways!!!
you heard it hear first, folks.
big k
What's really funny guys is that they tell us the audience here is huge and this blog is widely read.
ReplyDeleteBut then if anyone besides the four or five regulars post, they're a sock puppet.
Add to that the fact that the only bonafide sock puppets that I know of are theirs.
I like this one:
ReplyDelete"Lydia Cornell said...
There is a glitch in Blogger and posts have been disappearing."
I need to add that to my "Something about wallpaper"
post...LOL
"Sorry for the glitch.
I have no idea what happened. I haven't been here all day to check on the blog until now."
I know what happened. The 'glitch'es name is Larry.
dolty ignorantly spewed
ReplyDeleteI know what happened. The 'glitch'es name is Larry.
Or the poor blog couldn't take any more of your foul smelling monkey turds.
I agree with you Volt,Larry is
ReplyDeletethe guilty party.Why would Lydia
give him the delete button?Seeing
that she never gave it to Worf/
Bart.At least she's bright
enough not to give mike the
button,if he had it there would
be about three people posting
here.
Col.Klink does'nt come around
too often since Worf/Bart got
run off.
Big K,check out Voltron Ruffian
ReplyDeleteBlog.
Oh no Rusty, she gave it to Worf too. I think Mikey also had it for awhile.
ReplyDeleteCheck out the link I posted.
I looked at the link.It appears
ReplyDeletethe fair princess has a bit of
a problem with the truth.
I'll say on thing....that JR
ReplyDeleteis one hell of a wordsmith.
"Monkey turds!" Now there
a post to be proud of.
Couldn't be Rusty.
ReplyDeleteIt was only a few threads ago she told us she was incapable of uttering an un-truth.
LOL, it's that sixth grade edumacation.
ReplyDeleteYou oughta hear the boy cipher!
hey guys, i have been looking at the voltron blog. i am dissapointed i missed the discussion on the andrew klavan post. that was awesome!!
ReplyDeletei checked out the link you sent, that is crazy that posts were deleted like that. i am still willing to give lydia some benefit of the doubt, especially since some of mikes posts were deleted too. maybe she fixed the old problem and now there are technical issues.
as far as the "monkey turds" comment goes, i dont think many of the indigenous peoples here are accomplished men and women of letters.
Glad you like it Kev. Feel free to post if you wish.
ReplyDeleteFreedom Fan and I started it awhile back. We couldn't trust that anything we said here would remain so we started the other blog to make sure what we said was kept in context.
I don't know if you remember us or not, there was a small overlap. FF and I were coming into this blog just as you were moving away from it.
My blog is kinda like the Lydia Cornell conservative alumni in exile....LOL
" thereturnofRusty said...
ReplyDeleteI looked at the link.It appears
the fair princess has a bit of
a problem with the truth."
Yeah, the problem is it leaks out once in awhile. Twas the reason for the Worf/Lydia dust up a few threads ago.
A whole lot of truth came out in that one.
i am sorry i missed the worf/lydia dustup too. i have been away too long. i thought when worf wasnt here he must have died or something. i bet someone had to surgically remove that chair from his ass, he used to post so much. he was nuts. glad to hear he didnt die, though. at least not as far as i know.
ReplyDeletei do vaguely remember you guys. i pretty much left one night when my wife was pregnant and worf was on me about not posting enough. i have always told my wife that she has no worries of me cheating on her, i just cant handle more than one woman in my life. that pretty much proved it. worf lost.
big k.
I'm surprized the locals have'nt
ReplyDeleteshown up to call us names,thats
really the only bullet they have
in the gun.
My opinion,Worf was the smartest
ReplyDeleteof the locals.He was the only one
who would take Mike and Clif
to task.Although he did spend
untold hours at his keyboard.
They'll be back soon enough Rusty. Of course "The glitch that stole posts" may return as well.
ReplyDeleteIt should be interesting to see
ReplyDeletewhat Obie will do if in fact
North Korea launches a missle
on July 4th.
i would agree that worf was the smartes of the bunch. but that isnt saying a lot. any conversation that came up he was instantly an expert at it. guys, i am an engineer by education, and we are pretty bad at that, i know, but he put any one of us to shame. seriously. i think he just had a black belt in google-fu. he missed enough that i dont think he was classically trained in much of what he said. who knows, though.
ReplyDeletebig k.
Rusty,
ReplyDeleteWorf was a staunch defender of the truth as he saw it.
I don't believe he always saw it correctly, but he would even stand up to his own side if he thought they were wrong.
Kev,
ReplyDeleteLike I was trying to say to Rusty, Worf would fight against anyone for what he thought was right.
I don't believe what he thought was always right, but I do respect him for that.
I'm telling you...that speech
ReplyDeletehe gave in Cairo a couple weeks
ago sure did wonders.Every
tin-pot dictator is scared
shitless of him.
I agree worf was unbendable and
ReplyDeleteat times a windbag,but never
as bad as Mike and Clif.
Well gents,I've got to sign
ReplyDeleteoff.See you all later.
Take care Rusty. I'm gone too.
ReplyDeletedear lydia...
ReplyDeletehave not been over enough....have been reporting on Iran all week...lovely post on women..thank you for this....really inspiring...
namaste...
To respond to the original point of this post: 1)Vivien Leigh 2)Heddy Lamarr 3)Greta Garbo 4)Barbara Stanwyck 5)Gene Tierney. At least that's how I'd rank them today.
ReplyDeleteBoy, I don't think my name was mentioned this many times when I was here.
ReplyDeleteKevin said...
ReplyDeletei pretty much left one night when my wife was pregnant
Yea?
Well then, congratulations are in order.
:|
Who's the father?
hey worf,
ReplyDeletei thought it was me, but according to mike there may be other possibilities, since i apparently dont exist.
big k
Well you'd probably want to take Mikes word on that.
ReplyDeleteEspecially given the wide pool of candidates there is to sift through.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei am an engineer by education
Yea, so you've told us.
Too bad that "education" didn't include the English language.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteas far as the "monkey turds" comment goes, i dont think many of the indigenous peoples here are accomplished men and women of letters.
Well, perhaps you can revisit that sentiment once you complete a Hook-on-Phonics course.
yeah, my spelling sucks. i dont bother to spell check much these days, i dont see much of a need to since so many people communicate in internet language or intentionally mispell things anyway. then critique peoples grammar. it kills me. but i will reserve some ire for people who revert to their early childhood insults. monkey turds, being the subject of the comment in question.
ReplyDeleteas far as my existence or nonexistance is concerned, it baffles the mind that an veteran internet blog denizen such as mike has not figured out by now that the administrator of blogs such as this can get some information on where you are. city and state is readily available, and i doubt the people he is accusing me of being live in my small town. so i was having a little fun with that one. all he would have to do is ask, and i am sure lydia, or whoever manages this thing can answer that one pretty quick, and he doesnt have to have a coronary over it.
big k
and i will see you in that "Hook-on-Phonics" course buddy.
ReplyDeleteassuming you are the real worf....
big k
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteyeah, my spelling sucks.
I was referring to your inability to capitalize where appropriate and the generally juvenile use of words and sentence structure.
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But who am I to argue?
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteand i will see you in that "Hook-on-Phonics" course buddy.
I believe they are "Home Study" courses but you might want to check with your kid on that one.
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He'll know more about it and should be able to explain it in a vernacular better suited to your skill level.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteassuming you are the real worf....
big k
I am but the ghost of Worfeus.
Your identity however has yet to be determined.
But a good way to rule out any sort of skulduggery would be for you to remind us all on what topic our last great debate centered upon.
You should remember that, that is assuming you're the real "Big K".
that would prove nothing, since those discussions are in the arichives. if someone were to assume my identity (and one can assume that if someone is going to drudge up a name from a few years ago, they would have done that already), all they would have to do is quickly review old posts. and the last think i remember us talking about was your insistance that i post more and stop using my sick wife as an excuse. and i already mentioned that.
ReplyDeletenope, the best way is to check my ip, and i am sure you guys can figure that one out easily enough. if i am in the same town as some of the other guys, it goes a lot farther into proving something.
phonics has nothing to do with sentence structure or capitalization. but i am sure you knew that, being an expert at it, of course.
big k.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletethat would prove nothing, since those discussions are in the arichives. if someone were to assume my identity (and one can assume that if someone is going to drudge up a name from a few years ago, they would have done that already), all they would have to do is quickly review old posts. and the last think i remember us talking about was your insistance that i post more and stop using my sick wife as an excuse. and i already mentioned that.
You mean the "archives"?
As for my "insistence" that you post more, never said that. That's your fabrication now as it was then.
It was your excuse for your brain not being able to keep up with your keyboard, or mine.
As for your "sick wife", I thought you just said it was because she was pregnant.
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Oh well, you never were much on honesty.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletephonics has nothing to do with sentence structure or capitalization. but i am sure you knew that, being an expert at it, of course
I didn't say "phonics", Wordsmith.
I said "Hooked-On-Phonics", which is the title of a course that helps children learn to read and write.
Something you could no doubt benefit from.
As for me being an "expert", thanks, but it's just a simple matter of literacy.
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Or as in your case, illiteracy.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteand the last think i remember us talking about was your insistance that i post more and stop using my sick wife as an excuse. and i already mentioned that.
Well, if you are Big K then the last "THINK" you'd remember would be your pitiful attempts at convincing us of how the people "wanted the inquisition".
That along with your pitiful attempts to convince us the "inquisition" was comprised of the Spanish Inquisition only, based no doubt on your ready familiarity with Monty Python's Flying Circus.
I also remember your misplaced narcissistic hubris that compelled you on a regular basis to boast of your own perceived superiority while constantly demeaning others displaying twice your intellectual capacity. Which is admirable given your home schooled vernacular, comedic fracturing of historical events and general inability to post a coherent, literate comment in anything remotely resembling a timely manner.
That I remember.
:D
So who knows?
Maybe you are Big K.
well, worf, here it is from the hooked on phonics website,
ReplyDelete"Helps give preschoolers the foundation for reading success.
Hooked on Phonics® Learn to Read Pre-K Edition Deluxe gives children ages 3 to 4 the foundation they need to get ready to read. Kids learn letter names, letter sounds, and phonemic awareness skills through fun, motivating activities and lots of encouragement. This easy-to-use, research-based program uses the Hooked on Phonics learn-practice-play approach that helps children master reading readiness skills."
i see nothing in that description about sentence structure or capitalization, but i may differ to you on this one, since you are no doubt have recent experience in it.
and although i remember our discussion on the inquisition, i was not sure if it was our last discussion, and did not care to look at old posts to double check. besides, what i said is correct, my location can be verified easily, and so can someone read what was said before. the only way for someone to know for sure is to look.
you seem to think that our time together meant so much that i have been counting the days since our last talk. i no more remember the finer details of our last meeting that i do what i had for lunch last tuesday.
and my wife was sick, because she had just gotten pregnant moron. we did not know that at the time.
lastly, you were quite insistant that i post more. and your current post about how i could not keep up with you is surely not proof of your own point. i worked full time. went to school part time, and had a house and wife to care for. its not like i cant keep up with you, its that you dont rate that high. nor should someone who claims to have so much knowledge, but when challenged for credentials replys they have none. i do remember that discussion.
big k
also, as i mentioned to someone else here, you were the only one who was something of a challenge. if i sound like i am superior to someone like mike or jr in intellectual fisticuffs, it is because they are simply deficient in the art. mike can barely compose a simple sentence, and has proven himself unable to reason his way out of a paper bag. i am just calling it like i see it.
ReplyDeletei am sure no one wants to get back into our inquisition discussion here. i would be happy to revisit it somewhere more appropriate if you wish.
There's nothing to revisit.
ReplyDeleteYou were unaware of the various "Inquisitions" and the Suppression of Heresy through the ages, and thought the "Inquisition" was comprised of the Spanish Inquisition only.
When I explained to you the various Papal Inquisitions, and the previous Suppression of Heresy long before the better known Inquisitions, you choked, cried about your wife being sick and disappeared.
For good.
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Or so it seemed.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletewell, worf, here it is from the hooked on phonics website,
"Helps give preschoolers the foundation for reading success.
Hooked on Phonics® Learn to Read Pre-K Edition Deluxe gives children ages 3 to 4 the foundation they need to get ready to read.
Sounds like it was made for you.
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So what's the problem?
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei see nothing in that description about sentence structure or capitalization, but i may differ to you on this one, since you are no doubt have recent experience in it.
You mean you may "defer" to me on this one?
:D
Well then, that's good.
Since I'm fairly confident they would not use improper sentence structure, or fail to capitalize in the accompanying textual materials that no doubt come with the course.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteif i sound like i am superior to someone like mike or jr in intellectual fisticuffs
I never said you "sounded" superior.
I said you boasted of your own "perceived" superiority.
Once more I must "defer" you to the Hooked-On-Phonics program.
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Or given your recent comments, perhaps a "Speak-n-Spell" might provide a better starting point.
i remember pointing out that there were many people that lived in that time that thought the inquisition was necissary, and i gave examples. i showed some of the positive effects of the inquisition, and that the office of the inquisition still exists.
ReplyDeletei also remember you attacking one of the sources i gave that they are an apologist for the church, but that person taught history at the smithsonian insitute. and when i asked what your cred was, you fell quite silent. sounds to me like someone who displays a "narcissistic hubris that compelled you on a regular basis to boast of your own perceived superiority while constantly demeaning others." whats your point?
and as i said, i dont bother to spell check. i used to, but i stopped a long time ago. we get it. my spelling needs improvement. i will ask you the same thing i asked mike, do you have something pertinant, timely, useful, to say? or are you simply blowing smoke as usual.
big k
i am going to go with blowing smoke, personally. kind of like referencing josephus when we were talking about the inquisition. though he lived and died centuries before.
ReplyDeletebig k
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei worked full time. went to school part time, and had a house and wife to care for. its not like i cant keep up with you, its that you dont rate that high.
...and the sun was in your eyes, yea sure. Excuses are usually the last bastion of the loser.
As for how "high I rate" with you, apparently I rate high enough with you for you to come into a blog where I wasn't even present, and talk incessantly about me until I showed up.
and man worf,
ReplyDeletehooked on phonics has nothing to do with vocabulary or the meaning of words, only how to spell them. let me say that again. it pertains to how to spell words. nothing about grammar or meaning or anything else. i would think you knew that, the way you were lecturing me on it. but isnt that your modus operandi? to talk like an authority on something you dont even bother to research for a few minutes while insulting others? at least we all know that this is the real worf. he is just as much of a blowhard as he ever was.
big k
i was curious what happened to you. purely human interest. i did not ask you to come talk to me. in fact i said i didnt care if you did. i was quite content beating up on mike and jr, who no doubt came crying to you that i was here.
ReplyDeleteyou were here for years, and i did not come by to talk to you. i show up for a few days, and you come running back. who rated higher with who?
big k
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei remember pointing out that there were many people that lived in that time that thought the inquisition was necissary, and i gave examples. i showed some of the positive effects of the inquisition, and that the office of the inquisition still exists.
You pointed out that you thought the people wanted the "inquisition" and thought it "necessary". (please, try the Speak-N-Spell)
You provided no evidence of that ignorant notion, as the people themselves were terrified of the inquisitors, and said whatever the church wanted to hear.
That's the nature of unholy oppression. The truth is whatever the oppressor says it is.
And you also repeatedly tried to claim the "inquisition" lasted for only a few hundred years, until I set you straight on the fact there was no one "Inquisition" and that they spanned the history of the Catholic Church, as the Suppression of Heresy.
You tried claiming then you "meant" the Spanish inquisition, as if that were the only inquisition you knew of, and even then I had to explain to you that the Spanish Inquisition lasted close to 400 years, not the couple hundred you tried to assert.
You lost on every count.
Then, you claimed your wife was calling you, and disappeared.
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For four years.
i am not sure if excuses are the last bastion of a loser, or if online blogs are. seriously, while you were here, apparently pissing on the host, i got a degree, had two kids, and built a hot rod that i am hoping will be mentioned in a couple of hot rod rags soon (in the readers rides section). what have you done that you can say i am a loser?
ReplyDeletebig k
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletehooked on phonics has nothing to do with vocabulary or the meaning of words, only how to spell them.
So you're arguing that they will misuse words, and fail to follow correct grammatical principles?
:|
Go figure.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei was curious what happened to you. purely human interest.
Ahh, human interest.
I see.
Which was evident by your referring to me as that "lying idiot".
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei was quite content beating up on mike and jr, who no doubt came crying to you that i was here.
By "beating up" I assume you mean making a fool of yourself?
And no, they didn't say a word to me.
Just because I don't comment doesn't mean I don't read.
By the way, so the Big "K" stands for Kevin ay?
ReplyDelete:|
And here I always thought it stood for Knucklehead.
i pointed out that your numbers of the atrocities of the inquisition were exaggerated to the point of dishonesty. i also pointed out that in the case of the spanish inquisition the church had decried executions, it was the local government that was doing that against the church. i was really making the point that your knowledge of history was shaped by your views, not the other way around. you never proved that wrong, because you were too hung up on your perceived superiority.
ReplyDeletebig k
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei am not sure if excuses are the last bastion of a loser, or if online blogs are. seriously, while you were here, apparently pissing on the host, i got a degree, had two kids, and built a hot rod that i am hoping will be mentioned in a couple of hot rod rags soon (in the readers rides section). what have you done that you can say i am a loser?
Well, since I went to college about a quarter of a century ago, own several homes, run two businesses and made more last year than your house probably cost, I don't think we need to worry about "what I've done".
I've "done" just fine, thank you.
As for your "degree", to bad it didn't include a basic grasp of the English language.
See, you might try rereading what I actually said and you'll see the "loser" reference was with regards to the debate.
Which should be obvious to anyone with even a rudimentary comprehension of the English language.
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Once more I must implore you to try the Speak-N-Spell. I hear they do wonders.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei pointed out that your numbers of the atrocities of the inquisition were exaggerated to the point of dishonesty
No, what you pointed out was based on your ignorance of the Suppression of Heresy through the ages, and based on your Monty Python knowledge of the Spanish Inquisition as the solitary offense by the Catholic church.
I set you straight.
And then you ran away.
i do not see how i made a fool of myself. please enlighten me, as that would actually be pertinent to the discussion.
ReplyDeleteand i was concerned. i know you had been here for a long time, i was hoping nothing happened. when it was clear nothing had, i was free to speak my mind. i did not come here to talk to you specifically, and i did not leave to find you elsewhere.
however, you did come out of hiatus to talk to me specifically, since no one else is posting today. you can say all you want about how much i didnt rate, but you showed your hand already.
i have serious doubts as to your income. there is no way someone can post like you do and have time to run a business. if you are interested in measuring dicks, i have been unemployed for over a year now, and the payments on the house and the mercedes are up to date. i do ok too.
ReplyDeleteas to going to college, you can finally shed light on that. you mentioned before going to "catholic college" but did not say which one. what did you do there? did you finish a program? or did you simply go there because they had great burritos in the cafeteria and run around talking smack about it ever since? so many people do that online these days. i did ask this question before, and i got the answer i was expecting. what are you going to say now?
big k
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei do not see how i made a fool of myself. please enlighten me,
I doubt a thousand psychologists, philosophers and teachers working together around the clock could ever accomplish that.
and you should read your own comment regarding your "loser" statement. i was talking about how much you expected me to post and why I wasn’t. where you came up with a correlation with that discussion from so long ago is beyond me. who needs a reading comprehension class again?
ReplyDeleteKevin said...
ReplyDeletei have serious doubts as to your income. there is no way someone can post like you do and have time to run a business.
Your doubts fortunately to not impact my balance sheets.
But feel free to believe whatever helps you sleep at night.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteand you should read your own comment regarding your "loser" statement. i was talking about how much you expected me to post and why I wasn’t. where you came up with a correlation with that discussion from so long ago is beyond me. who needs a reading comprehension class again?
You do.
Because there's no question as to my referring to your losing the debate.
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Except for the illiterate like yourself.
well, we know you didnt study any of those subjects then. but go ahead and try it, buddy. because i dont think you have anything regarding how much of a "fool" i was showing myselfe to be on this thread before you spontaneously showed up, although your presence has nothing to do with mine.........
ReplyDeletebig k
Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteif you are interested in measuring dicks, i have been unemployed for over a year now, and the payments on the house and the mercedes are up to date. i do ok too.
Well first, you'd have to have one to measure.
Secondly, I don't swing that way (not that there's anything wrong with that...).
Third, thanks for confirming the old Big K dishonesty, which is alive and strong.
It was you who asked me what I had done.
Now, in your usual dishonest fashion, you try to pawn off your insecurities onto me.
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Too bad that degree didn't come with a lesson in ethics.
that is why i called you an lying idiot. you were responding to my post about why i didnt comment too often. you spun it into something else. either you are too stupid to know you can simply go back and read it, and i have accused you of that before, or you are lying to save face. my post was quite clear, and had nothing to do with the subjects of our past discussions.
ReplyDeletebig k
i forgot worf, you dont have one. sorry about that.
ReplyDeleteand i doubt you, simply because i asked before, and did not get this answer. it either took you 4 years to invent something, or you lied then for some reason. whatever. none of that proves i am dishonest, so go ahead and show some proof of that.
and we also know you didnt study ethics either.
so, just to recap, you did not study psychology, philosophy, teaching, or ethics. lets see what else we can rule out.
ReplyDeletebig k
oh, and you didnt study history. at least not at the smithsonian institue. maybe in rosie odonnels basement.
ReplyDeletebig k
wow, its been 20 minutes since worfs last post. maybe he cant keep up with his keyboard. or mine.
ReplyDeletei am going to get a sandwich and maybe watch a movie with the kids. try to think of something relevant to the discussion worf, if you can. all this old stuff that you keep bringing up should be somewhere else, and you know it. and if i am interested in improving my grammar and spelling, i will not do it here where you are coming to the aid of someone who argues in terms of "monkey turds."
big k
Unfortunately you don't know what I did or did not study in college, but as we see your degree didn't provide you with basic literacy skills.
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Therefore, so much for the value of a degree.
And as for knowing history, coming from a clown who thought the Spanish Inquisition comprised the whole of Catholic oppression throughout the ages, I'll take that as a compliment.
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Because I surely don't "know" history like you.
Kevin said...
ReplyDelete. but go ahead and try it, buddy. because i dont think you have anything regarding how much of a "fool" i was showing myselfe to be on this thread
big k
Unfortunately you'd have to have a brain to comprehend what a fool you're making of yourself.
Which of course negates that possibility, hence the need for the effort.
But you might examine the following words you wrote in this one solitary post.
"dont myselfe didnt"
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They might help steer you in the right direction.
And remember.
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A strong back, is a terrible thing to waste.
ah, back to misspellings and such. in my opinion that is the last bastion of those with very little else to say. especially since as you noted, i dont care to capitalize or use puncuation. obviously, i dont care to put the effort in for places like this. as to what you did or did not study, i dont care much except i loved to read you say you didnt. i dont think you could have hacked it.
ReplyDeleteand you lied again. i never said the only misdeeds done in the history of the church were done during the spanish inquisition. this is a good reason to move on from this discussion. you are either forgetting what was said, or deliberately misstating it. lying idiot comes back to mind. go back and read for comprehension, or simply go back to where you were last week. you have nothing new to talk about apparently, since i have asked quite a few times to come back on topic and you keep stalling.
"I doubt a thousand psychologists, philosophers and teachers working together around the clock could ever accomplish that."
as if you had something, you wouldnt relish rubbing my nose in it. even more if i could not comprehend it. so, like mike, you have failed to issue anything other than name calling and baseless crap. you advance nothing. but i will give you one thing, you are better and saying nothing than he is.
big k
i take it back, you probably could have handled something. business majors are knuckle draggers. nothing too robust though. maybe communications. hmmm maybe not. you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. but before you flunked out maybe you could have improved somewhat.
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Kevin said...
ReplyDeleteah, back to misspellings and such.
I wasn't aware we ever left them, given your consistent fracturing of the English language. Which I imagine is fitting given your fractured historical revisionism.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletein my opinion that is the last bastion of those with very little else to say.
Well it doesn't do much to good to say anything if the person you're saying it too is illiterate.
As for your opinion, it's worth about as much as your grammatical and historical opinions.
Which is nothing at all.
Big K said...
ReplyDeleteand you lied again. i never said the only misdeeds done in the history of the church were done during the spanish inquisition
You implied it.
I pointed out the abuses of the Catholic church since practically its inception. You responded by trying to pretend the only crimes were the Spanish Inquisition, even though I had already pointed out abused dating back to the 4th Century
Big K said...
One more thing, just because you keep bringing it up.
The Inquisition saw many abuses of power.
Note I had been discussing the abuses brought on by the suppression of heresy as early as the 4th century, yet you chose to pretend I was referring to the Spanish Inquisition, and thus implied that's all there was.
Big K said...
You know a little bit about it, I can see that. But did you know that the lay people of the time asked for the church to take action against the errors going on? People were tired of liars painting signs of stigmata on themselves and talking money out of innocent people. Or worse crimes.
The Inquisition lasted 400 years (not 700) because many generations of people thought it necessary. Read books of the time and you will see the lay people had little fear of the officers doing this work. An example of this would be Miguel de Cervantes’ famous book “Don Quixote.” He lived during the time, mentions the Inquisition, but not in a way you might expect.
Here we clearly see you claiming the "Inquisition" lasted 400 years, trying to pretend that the Spanish Inquisition was all there was. Even though I had been quite clear already about time periods long before the onset of the Spanish Inquisition.
You were being dishonest. Like you are now. Hoping no one would notice.
But I noticed.
Then, when I challenged you on the fact that the Inquisition(s) encompassed much more than the Spanish Inquisition, you back pedaled, spouting nonsense about errors while never acknowledging the actual "Inquisitions" until I spelled it out for you.
big k said...
When I mentioned the Inquisition, I was referring to the Spanish Inquisition, which by my records lasted from Sixtus IV decreeing his papal Bull in 1478 until it was finally ended on 15 July 1834. Actually, the last person executed under the Inquisition was said to be Cayetano Ripoli on 26 July, 1826. That the office of the Inquisition lasted longer than that, and in some capacity still does, proves nothing of your point.
When I mentioned that sinners in the midst of the church. I submit to you that it is not the policy of the church to breed such things, and that, again, since some impurities in the church have bubbled to the top means nothing.
Then you finally had to start admitting your own errors, and acknowledge that I had been openly talking about much more than the Spanish Inquisition (even though you tried to pretend that's all there was)
Big K said...
Worfeus,
Sorry, I did read your post. The Bull you cite is correct, and the pope made such policy.
What I meant was the history of the Inquisition has been skewed in ways that originally it did not intend, and there is literature of the time that supports my point. Obviously, as I have already stated, and the church has as well, errors were committed, and are no longer in effect. Errors will continue to be present, as we are all fallible humans.
I corrected you and pointed out accurately that the suppression of heresy had started as far back as the 4th century, and possibly earlier, and was not limited to the 400 years you tried to pretend in your pathetic attempts to excuse away the atrocities committed by the Catholic church.
You claimed falsely that it was a "few sinners" in the church.
And I set you straight.
And I'll leave you this evening with what I left you with then. Perhaps this time you'll enjoy it more.
ReplyDeleteThe DIVINARUM WORFEUSIUM VII:X
THE SONGS OF SLAPPIUS (aka The Songs of Big K)
From THE DIVINARUM LUDICRUM
IX:V THE LAMENTATIONS
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While browsing one day on this room did I fall,
My presence unknown as I heard from them all.
As banter regaled to the lies of the left,
I noticed one there who it seemed I could best.
I listened to him as to what he might say,
A heretics words that were pointing my way.
Enough! I cried out, as your lies do not tell,
The tortures of those who were bound straight for hell.
Their stripes did they earn as they lied to the saints,
The Inquisitors true and the picture he paints.
So show me a book this is truth I assert,
As the pyre's not hot, and the rack does not hurt.
He offered with dates and with names could I care,
I'd dismiss them again and say show me just where.
Your words are not true, I did not pick this fight,
But I'll stay and defend as I know that I'm right.
And if from my words does he publish his sin,
I'll dismiss them with ease and say show me again.
But then as I read from the page of my prose,
I saw my own err that I downplayed their woes.
But wait what is truth, if the Church sayeth not,
As the rack does not hurt and the pyre's not hot.
So I gird up my loins as I stare down the keys,
And I fight back the lies that are coming at me;
Though I think to myself as I try to spell seemed,
I have never me thinks, seen my clock so well cleaned.
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- Ludicrus Slappius II - aka "Big K"
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Ghost of Worfeus said "I corrected you and pointed out accurately that the suppression of heresy had started as far back as the 4th century, and possibly earlier, and was not limited to the 400 years you tried to pretend in your pathetic attempts to excuse away the atrocities committed by the Catholic church.
ReplyDeleteYou claimed falsely that it was a "few sinners" in the church.
And I set you straight."
Isnt it disapointing how the worst of history constantly repeats itself..........look how the regressive extremists of the church used torture to surpress knowledge and the facts and twist them into the dishonest message they want it to be and how their fanatical supporters try to defend and whitewash those tactics and minimize the wrongs that werer done as a "few sinners" or a "few bad apples"
From the 4th century to Dick Cheney and his torturing treasonous war crimininals and the evil twisted men that defend them like Voltron, Rusty, FF, Big K..........very little has changed over the last thousand plus years and thats disapointing.
Oh and "Big K/Rusty" you seem to have an even bigger problem with the facts than you do with literacy and the english language.
ReplyDeleteSee
1) you had 2 serious debates in here that lasted at least 3 weeks and were intense enough not to forget.......the first and main one was about the Inquisition........the second was about bringing a knife to a gunfight.......something YOU claimed was a good idea.......my references to that went right over your head and thats NOT something Big K would have forgetting after debating for weeks in fact i think that was the last discussion you had in here.
2) I NEVER really discussed anything with you, or even really talkied to you..........so your claim I did was a lie just as statement i claimed you were a certain senator or Ann Coulter.........first I NEVER claimed ANYONE was a senator or Ann Coulter.......but that just serves to show either you are not Big k........or if you are Big K is a liar or is chronically getting his facts wrong and not too credible.
3) its really not very normal to come into a blog after over 4 years and start incessantly and obsessively talking about another blogger who isnt even here and hasnt been in months when you dont even know that blogger and have only talked with him on the internet for a few weeks almost half a decade ago.
Therefore I find it far more likely your not the real Big K but some gutless troll punk trying to hijack the thread into troll babble because thats all you bitter irrelevant losers have left to do.
Happy Fathers Day to all of my fellow dads out there ... even to little k.
ReplyDeletemike, you seem to have the same problem that worf does with using the scroll button. get whoever it is that administers this blog to check my location. it may even be possible to check a comment from a few years ago so you can sleep easier. otherwise, there isnt much else to say. i will admit that someone usurping another bloggers identity from some time ago is quite lame and pathetic, but you have nothing but a hunch that i am doing any such thing. and worf, would you mind going after mike's misspellings, just to be fair? everyone said on here that you at least called your side of the fence out when you saw it. i never experienced that side of you.
ReplyDeleteand if i never "talkied" to you mike, you sure remember what i said. if i never spoke with you, that would seem a bit strange that you remember every last detail? an example, i have never "talkied" to the queen of england, and if given a pop quiz about my posts, she would surely not do well.
big k
thanks mch,
ReplyDeleteback at ya.
big k
worf,
ReplyDeletei implied no such thing, and thank you for reposting it for me, since i had no desire to look it up. just because you continued to rewrite everything i posted to mean something else never made it true. hence, i said you were a lying idiot. i find more and more proof to that point with every post you make. i never “implied” anything. i said what i meant to say. but i repeatedly told you that you were mischaracterizing my words, yet you missed that one with your vaunted intelligence.
"Errors will continue to be present, as we are all fallible humans."
for someone with such a giant intellect as yourself, and an expert grammarian, you surely cannot read for comprehension. we were talking about the inquisition(s) and not encompassing the whole history of the church. that is until you decided on your own that was what we were talking about, and you changed the subject. and thank you again for pointing out that i said that the errors in the church were not inherently part of church teaching. never was, but you keep distorting those facts. you said you went to “catholic college,” whatever the hell that meant. then you should know that the church never advocated such things as policy. i guess you were too busy checking your books for misspellings to get any of it
oddly, for someone who sees no reason to open that old can of worms, you are quite resolved to spill them all over the place.
if i didnt know better, i would think worf is gay for me. sheesh, you obviously were quite mad that i left for so long. and now you come back just because i am here and bring up all those old arguments. really, you sound like a jilted woman.
i am sorry worf, it was never meant to be. your a great person (cough) and i am sure you will find someone. i think.
big k
mike, really.
ReplyDeleteyou find it more likely that someone would reopen someones old stuff, just for the sake of doing it, rather than the guy from so long ago finding himself in possession of too much free time so they come by here rather than watch judge judy? you are paranoid. and i will say it again, someone thought i was coulter. if not you, someone. i could go back and see if i can find it, but i think you have more energy for that. or worf does, considering he has that old information at his fingertips, despite is inability to comprehend much of it. honestly, i didnt think anyone would remember me, it was a long time ago. volt changed his name, i didnt recognize him at first, and you were the only one whose name i remembered myself. sorry i didnt reintroduce myself to you mike, i guess i hurt your fragile feelings too. you know, i know this guy you might be interested in, his goes by the name "worf," and i think you guys share some interests. maybe you guys could go out for drinks and see what happens....
and worf, i am still waiting for something on topic. really. calling my comments on this post foolish and backing it up with nothing is really beneath even you.
big k
man,
ReplyDeletei am just running around misspelling things and breaking hearts. who knew little old me was such a hot commodity around here!!
watch out lydia, it seems you have some competition for the resident hottie.
big k.
maybe i could take some pictures of myself in a bikini and sell them for 20 bux too.
ReplyDeleteheh, ew.
big k
hell hath no fury like worfeus scorned.........
ReplyDeletebig k
Big Strawman said...
ReplyDeleteworf,
i implied no such thing, and thank you for reposting it for me, since i had no desire to look it up. just because you continued to rewrite everything i posted to mean something else never made it true. hence, i said you were a lying idiot. i find more and more proof to that point with every post you make. i never “implied” anything. i said what i meant to say. but i repeatedly told you that you were mischaracterizing my words, yet you missed that one with your vaunted intelligence.
"Errors will continue to be present, as we are all fallible humans."
for someone with such a giant intellect as yourself, and an expert grammarian, you surely cannot read for comprehension. we were talking about the inquisition(s) and not encompassing the whole history of the church
More lies from a man who comes into a thread after 4 years talking incessantly about me and then turns around and calls me the obsessed one.
Yours is a endless tapestry of straw arguments and lies.
And here you lie again.
As I've shown, we were NOT talking about the "Inquisition".
Try your scroll button, as it seems to be broken.
I was talking about the abuses of the Catholic church as documented in the Divine Institutes by Lactantius, who lived in the FOURTH CENTURY CE.
I pointed out the abuses of the Church spanning a 700 year period, and you in turn responded with a straw argument.
This straw argument.
The Inquisition lasted 400 years (not 700) because many generations of people thought it necessary
There's no way around this, no matter how fast you tap dance.
My comments even stated the time period of Lactantius, and the oppression from the Suppression of Heresy in the FOURTH Century.
And you responded by trying to seed a straw argument, by lying, trying to pretend I was talking about the Spanish Inquisition when I had already made it clear I was not, but instead was talking about a much wider span of abuses from the early mother church.
So lie.
Lie lie lie Big K. That's all you've got.
As for fury, another strawman from a peabrain who knows nothing but lies.
I mocked you. That is not "fury".
But you say it is, and thus you run with another strawman intended to shore up your untenable positions.
You're the one who came in after four years, and couldn't stop talking about me, and then you accuse me of being the obsessed one.
You're the one who responded four years ago, to comments I had made about the FOURTH CENTURY abuses of the catholic church, by trying to pretend that I was talking about the Spanish Inquisition.
And now you're the one accusing me of the fury, when in fact all I've done is mock a big fool.
When you have something honest to say, you let me know chief.
In the meantime, you've been measured, bested, and found wanting.
Oh and by the way, calling the torturing of men, women and children, and the burning of them alive at the stake "errors", is the sign of a truly corrupted individual.
ReplyDeleteOne who has no comprehension of good or evil, but is lost in his own warped sense of reality.
And it is the sign of a fool.
Straw Argument:
ReplyDeleteA straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1]
To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
Wikipedia
Examples of straw arguments from Wikipedia;
ReplyDelete* Political debate:
Person A: The war in Iraq is wrong.
Person B: You cannot convince me that liberty is a bad thing.
(B has equated A's opposition to the war as an opposition to liberty which is easier to defeat).
* A beach debate:
Person A: Nude bathing is healthy and nude beaches should be permitted here.
Person B: No, that kind of free sex threatens the morality of society.
(B has misrepresented A's position as a call for sexual promiscuity, not nudity, which is what Person A called for. The escalation from nudity to sexual promiscuity makes the argument easier to defeat).
Wikipedia.
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Examples of Straw Arguments from Big K.
WORFEUS PRESENTS THE FOLLOWING ARGUMENT:
The Inquisition(s) which were ordered by Papal decree, spanned a 700 year nightmare reign of the most unspeakable tortures, rapes and murders our world has ever seen.
When Pope Gregory IX wrote the French Bishops in the early 1200's advising them that the Church would condone more strict methods of determining heretics in the congregations, he was merely adding to a long list of heinous crimes and murder committed in the name of Christ by the Holy Mother Church at Rome.
Early saints and leaders and teachers in the Church were already condemning the Church and the atrocities being committed in the name of Christ long before Gregory and the holy inquisitions.
Lactantius was admonishing the church for vile crimes and tortures, as early as the 4th century.
In 308 Lactantius wrote;
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"What has the rack to do with piety?
Surely there is no connection between truth and violence, between justice and cruelty.
If you attempt to defend religion with bloodshed and torture, what you do is not defense, but desecration and insult".
Lucius Caecilius Firmianus Lactantius
From the Divinarum Institutionum Libri V (Divine Institutes)
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Here we see Worfeus was clearly referring to the not the Spanish Inquisition, but to all of the Inquisitions (hence the "S" at the end of the word) as well as all abuses performed under the guise of the Suppression of Heresy by the church.
Worfeus even dates it back to 308 CE, so there can be no confusion.
No doubt.
No "gray area".
And yet, Big K responds by BLATANTLY IGNORING everything Worfeus wrote, and instead just dishonestly CHANGES his words to mean merely the "Inquisition" i.e. the Spanish Inquisition.
Observe.
The Inquisition lasted 400 years (not 700) because many generations of people thought it necessary
Big K has changed Worfeus's position and statements which clearly state the "INQUISITIONS(S)" and all abuse under the Suppression of Heresy, and changed it to merely the "[SPANISH] INQUISITION".
Thus we see a perfect example of a straw argument being used to change his opponents argument, into an easier, simpler position to defend.
You lose Big K.
You lost then and you lose now.
Well come on Big Liar.
ReplyDeleteCome back and tell us "nuh uh" again.
There's the words. There's what was written.
I said the Inquisition(s) i.e. the Medieval through the Roman Inquisitions which ran officially from 1184 to 1860, or approximately 700 years.
I also pointed out the Suppression of Heresy, which started long before the actual inquisitions, adding another 800+ years to the equation.
You however responded, pretending I had said none of that, and pretended there was only one Inquisition, i.e. the Spanish Inquisition (which you obviously knew of from watching Monty Python movies) and pretended that it was all I had spoken of.
Thus you were wrong on all counts.
You built a straw argument, pretending that I had said the Spanish Inquisition.
You were ignorant of the other official Inquisitions, as well as the Suppression of Heresy prior to the official onset of the Inquisitions, and 4 years later, you are no wiser, and no more honest.
Yet last night you were boasting and bragging about your accomplishments over the last four years.
Well, I don't know what throwback institution decided to give you a degree, or who sired the rug rats running around your trailer, but I do know this.
You're as big of an idiot, and a liar, as you were four years ago.
As your words, reposted for all to see, prove.
Worfeus said...
ReplyDeleteThe Inquisitions which were ordered by Papal decree, spanned a 700 year nightmare reign of the most unspeakable tortures, rapes and murders our world has ever seen.
Big K's Straw Argument Response...
The Inquisition lasted 400 years (not 700) because many generations of people thought it necessary
Hell hath no fury like a liars, straw argument exposed.
ReplyDeleteYou're wasting your time, big k. This Bartlebee guy can best be described as Oliver Stone on steroids (grassy knolls for as long as the eye can see). He accuses people of all sorts of Tom-foolery and it's up to them to prove their innocence (to which you can never adequately do in his eye, of course). If you want to engage anybody here, I would suggest sticking to Volt or Lydia. They both have strong opinions but at least they're willing take people at face value.
ReplyDeleteThat it's "no use" is of no doubt.
ReplyDeleteWill, who has no role in this debate of me and Big K (Will supposedly was nowhere around 4 years ago), suddenly pops up to play the "concerned" friend of Big K.
Will can clearly see Big K changing my statement on the "Inquisition(s)" and launching a straw argument about the "Inquisition" by simply removing the "S" from the word.
Yet Will doesn't acknowledge that.
Instead he launches a personal attack on me, and ignores the actual facts of the debate.
The words are there.
Big K removed the "s" which dramatically changed the nature of my statement, then proceeded to "correct me".
He created the perfect example of a straw argument, and 4 years later he can't own up to it.
Clearly you guys missed me. You couldn't stop talking about me even in my absence.
But alas, you'll have to learn to do without.
Because unfortunately I have better things to do than waste another couple of weeks arguing with a clown from 4 years ago who can't admit his own dishonesty, or the concern trolls sent in to cheer him on.
Big K, if you'd shown an inkling of honesty and admitted to changing my word from "Inquisitions" to "Inquisition" then I'd have said "hey, glad to see an old debate opponent", and left it at that"
But instead you came in, called me all sorts of foul, ugly names, even though I haven't commented in here in months, and was no where in sight.
And after speaking with me you couldn't even admit your straw argument from the past.
So you're just not worth my time.
And the little dog who followed you in to yap at my feet? He's worth even less of my time, than you.
If you have something of importance to say, you let me know.
In the meantime the facts stand.
You removed the "s" from Inquisitions to launch a straw argument.
You also ignored the 800+ year period I'd referenced prior to the inquisitions.
And you did it all, to make soft pedal and downplay the horror that was the crimes of the catholic church.
Those are the facts.
Deal with them.
The Posts Don't Lie (even though you do)
ReplyDeleteWorfeus said...
The Inquisitions which were ordered by Papal decree, spanned a 700 year nightmare reign of the most unspeakable tortures, rapes and murders our world has ever seen.
Big K's Straw Argument Response...
The Inquisition lasted 400 years (not 700) because many generations of people thought it necessary
wow, worf. i am sorry i mentioned your name too many times. a bunch of it was to try to prove to mike that i am me. the rest was because i apparently had a discussion with rusty and volt. sheesh, thou shalt not use the name worf in vain.
ReplyDeleteget off that i said your name too many times. honestly, that has to be the dumbest of your arguments.
and you can bring up all that old stuff all you want. i said it before i will say if for the last time, and i will use small words for you. i am not interested in revisiting that stuff here. we can do it somewhere else. otherwise, the following is my last post on the subject.
i had said years ago that you kept shifting the argument, and you did. it is impossible to discuss or learn anything from someone who is constantly changing the game. the subject of the inquisition came up. i thought we were talking about THE INQUISITION as commonly referred to. you lumped everything with the title of inquisition in there for fun. thinking along the aforementioned train of thought i missed your point. i even said that along the way somewhere, but when i got on track you brought up numbers that were exaggerated, i pointed that out, you said it wasnt a contest, and so on. somewhere along the way to prove your point you mentioned written history including josephus who was not relevant to the conversation, because you were deflecting and unable to admit you screwed up. when you were wrong, and you were, you didnt admit it at all.
another of your old tricks was to act like i had said something to hurt your feelings so the whole time i was there i ended up trying to apologize to you for those supposed offenses. and you would reiterate them over and over again. i wont do it again. i said your name and you were not here. get over it.
"Well come on Big Liar.
ReplyDeleteCome back and tell us "nuh uh" again."
yesterday was fathers day, dumbass. i had better thing to do than talk to you. it was also my father in laws birthday. we spent the day playing with the kids, driving the hot rod, bbqing, and responsibly imbibing adult beverages. you were here. i said it before, i will say this again too, you need to get a life. with all that supposed money, you should be able to buy one.
big k
I feel sorry for the kids who have a father who's such a two bit dishonest punk, that he can't own up to his own straw arguments when they're spelled out in front of him.
ReplyDeleteKevin said...
ReplyDeletewow, worf. i am sorry i mentioned your name too many times. a bunch of it was to try to prove to mike that i am me. the rest was because i apparently had a discussion with rusty and volt. sheesh, thou shalt not use the name worf in vain.
get off that i said your name too many times. honestly, that has to be the dumbest of your arguments.
Another one of your attempts to rewrite the events.
You mocked me for being obsessed.
I pointed out that it was you who came into a blog where I haven't been in months, and had no comments whatsoever on the board, and couldn't stop talking about me.
Get your facts straight.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletei had said years ago that you kept shifting the argument, and you did. it is impossible to discuss or learn anything from someone who is constantly changing the game. the subject of the inquisition came up. i thought we were talking about THE INQUISITION as commonly referred to. you lumped everything with the title of inquisition in there for fun.
Wrong. Very very wrong.
I repeatedly said "INQUISITIONS".
I lumped nothing with the "title of inquisition".
That's what YOU did.
I said INQUISITION(S).
REPEATEDLY.
And I also referenced 800+ years PRIOR to the Inquisition(S).
YOU, like the lying two bit punk you are, CHANGED it and REMOVED THE "S".
You created a straw argument.
Here stupid.
Read it again, for the 3000th time.
MY FACTS:
ReplyDeleteWorfeus said...
The Inquisitions which were ordered by Papal decree, spanned a 700 year nightmare reign of the most unspeakable tortures, rapes and murders our world has ever seen.
And YOUR STRAW ARGUMENT
Big K said...
The Inquisition lasted 400 years (not 700) because many generations of people thought it necessary
The only one talking about the Spanish Inquisition, was you, with your Monty Python historical background (or is it hysterical?).
ReplyDeleteNo one could have confused my painstakingly detailed accounts dating back to the 4th Century, and the Divine Institutes, with the Spanish Inquisition.
Regardless of how stupid they are.
No one could have confused my repeated statements on the "Inquisition(S)" with the Spanish Inquisition.
I never once said "the Inquisition".
No one was talking about the "Inquisition".
That's another one of your straw arguments (lies) to cover up your own stupidity.
From my very first mention of it I made it clear I was talking about the Inquisition(S) and said, the Inquisition(S), and even pointed out they spanned a 700 year time span.
You turned around, and said the "Inquisition", and then proceeded to correct me, claiming the "INQUISITION" lasted only 400 years.
Had you been familiar with the other 3 official Inquisitions, you'd have never said that.
But I educated you on them.
I set you straight.
No one could have mistaken what I wrote for the Spanish Inquisition.
I repeatedly wrote "Inquisitions", and I referenced in detail, Lactantius and the Divine Institutes, and his reference to the Suppression of Heresy by the church, some 800 years prior to the onset of the official Inquisitions.
I even gave you the date.
308 AD.
You turned around, and responded like a moron, saying "nuh uh, the InquisiTION lasted only 400 years, not 700".
There was no way you could have "overlooked" my repeated references to both the Inquisition(S) and the 800+ years of Suppression of Heresy prior to them.
No way.
So there's only two possibilities.
1. You were ignorant of the actual Inquisition(S) and knew only of the Spanish Inquisition.
2. You were simply making a straw argument because of your comfort with dishonesty.
Either way, you lost the debate then, and you lose now.
I think mothers are the most beautiful women...up until they take flight with the "angels of passage". They wear the lines of love,pride,worry,concern and many smiles. They are sometimes hunched in the winter of their lives...from hard work,and going without...just to make sure their pride and joys get enough vitamins to grow up to be strong women and men. Mothers faces are beautiful when their kids are moms and dads...with families of their own...and they hardly have time to visit their mom and her beauty. When you visit a mother...after you have grown and moved with life's changes...look at your moms beautiful face...and notice the proud lines of love,worry,concern and satisfaction...because of the never changing passage of time in life...mom wears her lines and pains proudly...for she has done her job...with the grace of God...the very best she could. If your mom is still alive drop in and bring her some gingerbread...if she's gone...whisper a prayer of love and thanks...and do something nice,in her memory that would make her proud...after all...look at what a beautiful job she's done with you.
ReplyDeleteHere, so there's no capability for you to lie further, or rewrite history, here's my FIRST comments on the subject, which clearly identify the Inquisition(S), (repeatedly) and the 800+ years prior to it of the Suppression of Heresy.
ReplyDeleteBlogger WORFEUS said...
See Big K, you may have overlooked their, let us say, untidy history but I did not.
Jesus even warned the apostles repeatedly about the coming corruption in the church, and provided parables and idioms to help his followers discern the divinity of those professing to teach his gospel.
" Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:15 - 20
See, no good fruit is going to come from a bad tree, at least according to Christ, the guy supposedly at the head of the Church.
So if the fruits bad, so is the vine.
And of course the holy inquistions, the tortures, the crimes, these are what one might call, bad fruit.
The Inquistions which were ordered by Papal decree, spanned a 700 year nightmare reign of the most unspeakable tortures, rapes and murders our world has ever seen.
When Pope Gregory IX wrote the French Bishops in the early 1200's advising them that the Church would condone more strict methods of determining heretics in the congregations, he was merely adding to a long list of henious crimes and murder committed in the name of Christ by the Holy Mother Church at Rome.
Early saints and leaders and teachers in the Church were already condeming the Church and the atrocities being commited in the name of Christ long before Gregory and the holy inquisitions.
Lactantius was admonishing the church for vile crimes and tortures, as early as the 4th century.
In 308 Lactantius wrote;
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"What has the rack to do with piety?
Surely there is no connection between truth and violence, between justice and cruelty.
If you attempt to defend religion with bloodshed and torture, what you do is not defense, but desecration and insult".
Lucius Caecilius Firmianus Lactantius
From the Divinarum Institutionum Libri V (Divine Institutes)
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The horrific crimes of the Holy Church of Rome, are not my opinion, they are fact.
And they have been well documented for the last 2000 years.
Even today we find the Church is a literal haven of child molesters with thousands of cases being reported over the last 5 decades. And more and more cases are coming out every day.
And the Churches response to this?
Negotiate, shuffle Priests, etc. They support it by turning a blind eye and a deaf ear.
And you think they have anything to do with Christ?
If you are comfy with a Church whose history is full of blood, murder, corruption, vice, torture, and whose current claim to fame is not feeding the Children, but f@#%!$ng the children, then cool, that's your gig.
But don't expect the rest of us to buy into it.
And here's your response, changing everything I had written, into your straw argument about the "Inquisition".
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big k said...
No Ms. Cornell, I am not Anne. On BradBlog I mentioned I was a male, long haired, 30 year old engineering student at Arizona State University. That is all the truth. Aside from the long hair, I have little in common with Anne. And she seams to hold some disdain for Catholics as many of the people here do. There is some proof that she and I do not see eye to eye on everything, in case you needed it.
As far as Worfeus’ comments are concerned. Your Bible quotes are interesting, but prove little as far as the corruption of the Church. Upon some inspection of the Bible in whole you may find one interesting trait among all God’s chosen people, New Testament and Old. They were all weak. The Philistines were stronger people in faith and arms, but the Jews were chosen. The Jews fell from grace with God many times, but they were still the chosen people. When Christ came, He did not pick saints, he picked fishermen, a tax collector, a womanizer, among others. The stereotypes of fisherman have not changed much in the last 2000 years. At the marriage at Cana, they ran out of wine because 12 drunkards descended on the party and drank their stuff. They fought, they did not listen. It was not until after the death of Jesus did they really start to get it. Lydia has said it herself, Jesus brings sinners to Him, that is who He is interested in. That the Church has sinners in her midst is not proof that her teachings are wrong. But that she has lasted 2000 years despite those horrible people may be proof that God still works through His church.
One more thing, just because you keep bringing it up. The Inquisition saw many abuses of power. You know a little bit about it, I can see that. But did you know that the lay people of the time asked for the church to take action against the errors going on? People were tired of liars painting signs of stigmata on themselves and talking money out of innocent people. Or worse crimes. The Inquisition lasted 400 years (not 700) because many generations of people thought it necessary. Read books of the time and you will see the lay people had little fear of the officers doing this work.
An example of this would be Miguel de Cervantes’ famous book “Don Quixote.” He lived during the time, mentions the Inquisition, but not in a way you might expect.
nice job insulting my kids and my fatherhood. that is a low blow, even for a bottom feeder like you, btw. and baseless, i might add.
ReplyDeletealso, nice job selectively reposting things i said from so long ago. i repeatedly clarified myself, but you wont repost that. you dont have the integrity to do so. hence, i will simply not engage that discussion. keep reposting, buddy. go ahead and drudge up all that stuf. pile through the archives alone for hours. and why not attack my kids some more. they are easy enough targets for you.
or, you can find something to talk about on topic. my "foolishness" comes to mind. an assertion you made when you first came on. you have yet to address my challenge directly. i posit that you are not able to. you just made a jab, and cannot back it up.
however, your continued reposting and incessant need to talk about past threads can is the textbook definition of the word "obsessed." you are not proving otherwise.
big k
So we see that you were lying then, and you're lying now.
ReplyDeleteYou tried smarting off, correcting me, and to do so you changed everything I had written on the Inquisition(s) and the 800+ years prior, into your straw argument on the Spanish Inquisition.
Fortunately, your lies aside, the posts don't lie.
And they show what was actually said, and they prove that you lied then and are lying now.
Oh and by the way, after 4 years, we're still waiting for that Cervantes quote.
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Seems you've have had enough time to locate it by now.
Kevin said...
ReplyDeletenice job insulting my kids and my fatherhood. that is a low blow, even for a bottom feeder like you, btw. and baseless, i might add.
Are you kidding you piece of crap?
You waltz in after four years spouting insults on everyone calling them foul ugly names and then whine about getting the same back?
You're a lying two bit sack of sh$t, and your kids are no doubt the worse for it.
And I didn't insult them asswipe.
I pitied them, for having a big fat two bit piece of garbage like you, for a father.
wow,
ReplyDeletemore of the same old post!! just more of it!! who would have called that one? oh yeah, me.
and i recall someone posting this,'
"i am going to go with blowing smoke, personally. "
hmm,
who was that again? oh yeah, me again. i called it, and it happened. i know your tricks too well.
big k
Big Liar said...
ReplyDeletealso, nice job selectively reposting things i said from so long ago. i repeatedly clarified myself, but you wont repost that. you dont have the integrity to do so.
Selectively?
I posted the two pertinent comments, the very first made, proving your straw argument.
And you didn't "clarify yourself".
You keep purporting your lies.
Not to mention your Heinrich Himmler like revisionist history of the Inquisitions, where you defended them and said stupid things like the "lay person had nothing to fear from the Inquisitor".
You're a scumbag.
A two bit lying scumbag and clearly you haven't learned a damn thing in over 4 years.
Better head back to school, and enroll in an ethics class, you foul ignorant pig.