from 9 - 10 a.m. We broadcast live -- or go to our website and click on the link to hear the entire show in the archives.
LISTEN TO YESTERDAY'S SHOW IN THE ARCHIVES: Yesterday, we had Paul Waldman from Media Matters on to discuss Bill O'Reilly's delusional rant accusing Media Matters of being a propaganda website funded by George Soros. This is hilarious, you have to hear it. Media Matters.org is a Washington think-tank whose sole purose is to correct deception, misinformation and hate-speak in the right-wing media. Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
TALK RADIO by Larry Johnson
Talk radio has become a billion dollar business in America and the audience is growing with the influence of Internet Talk Radio to capture a growing block of the audience. More and more people are logging on to listen to talk radio over their computers and hand held devices.
Conservatives took the lead in talk radio with influences like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity dominating the airwaves with their abrasive tones slanted sharply to a conservative point of view. As these shows caught on other conservative shows hit the airwaves and helped push the Republican party into power.
Progressive talk shows came at a disadvantage as the conservative influence had long dominated the airwaves. As Air America came into existence and progressive talk shows began to gain an audience, politics in the U.S slowly started to turn.
Eight of the top ten talk radio shows are conservative programs that reach millions of listeners, who daily use their broadcasts to further the conservative agenda. Each week these and other talk radio pundits make outrageous claims that often prove untrue.
A new breed of progressive talk has recently hit the airwaves. Broadcasting from Las Vegas and Los Angeles, Doug Basham and Lydia Cornell host the Basham and Cornell Progressive Talk show every Saturday at 9:00 AM PST.
This Saturday on Basham and Cornell Progressive Talk they will interview Paul Waldman of Media Matters. The subject will be the recent outrageous remarks of Bill O'Reilly and other conservative claims that have been untrue.
Tune in Saturday at 9:00 AM PST for the fastest growing show in talk radio. bashamandcornell
Take 60 seconds to do this, I guarantee you will show someone else, it's too funny not to.
ReplyDelete1. go to www.google.com
2. click on "maps"
3. click on "get directions"
4. type "New York" in the first box (the "from" box)
5. type "London" in the second box (the "to" box)
6. click on "get directions"
7. scroll down to step #23
8. READ STEP 24
Thats all right Clif. I never had seen that before.
ReplyDeleteWhat I want to know is, what do you do with your car during step 24.....
ReplyDeleteI don't know I guess it goes off the wharf.
ReplyDeleteBut you need it for step 25......
ReplyDeleteI know I don't know what happens. I guess they want to see if very many notice it.
ReplyDeleteBTW for some reason Google can't travel the pacific, try Los Angeles to Tokyo, Google can't find a way to do it......
ReplyDeleteI don't think anyone is going to get very far after step 24.
ReplyDeleteAlso they can't find a way for the Miami to Havana trip even a few Cubans "drove" a old Chevy pickup to Florida.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't get to Tokyo.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what the chimporer did when he tried the google to get to Iraq.......
ReplyDeleteNo wonder he doesn't want to deal with that reality a second time
That is probably why he can't get out of Iraq, google can't figure it for him.
ReplyDeleteLarry your a genius, that is his problem, all we need to do is fix the googler and the war is over...............
ReplyDeleteDidn't Bush say one time he has used the google?
ReplyDeletewell he also said he served in the military and ran companies so I kinda take what he says with a boulder of salt
ReplyDeleteIf he ran companies he meant he ran them in the ground.
ReplyDeleteBush got a Purple heart this week from a veteran and the idiot had the gall to take it from the poor guy.
ReplyDeleteYou mean he ran companies into the ground dont you Clif............he seems quite good at that............look at what he has done to our military and our countries economy!
ReplyDeleteHe ran Pickles into a constant drunken stuper and the twins into a world of exotic wonder.
ReplyDeleteLarry, why should the idiot accepting a purple heart he never earned be so surprising,
ReplyDeleteafter all he sent so many into hell to get theirs with no more moral conscience then he showed accepting that one.
Deputy Secretary of State Randall Tobias abruptly resigned his position due to being on the infamous DC Madame list of clients.
ReplyDeleteYou sure know how to pick your cronies Condi!
Bush administration began drilling oil off the coasts of Virginia and Alaska.
ReplyDeleteDidn't they get enough oil in Iraq?
Former New York Mets bat boy pleaded guilty of selling steroids to the players.
ReplyDeleteThose bat boys are devious.
The Armed Services Committee has began an investigation into the use of private security contractors in Iraq.
ReplyDeleteIts about time.
Bush's military lapdog Gen Petraeus says the "surge" has not reduced violence in Baghdad.
ReplyDelete"Surge" on anyway Bush.
U.S auto sales dropped sharply in April in what was considered a terrible month for the industry.
ReplyDeleteMore of the Bush economy.
Liberal talk radio is making inroads into the fray. Signal to noise ratio is increasing by leaps and bounds.
ReplyDeleteAnd Rush Limbaugh has his own Imus problem now...
Buhbye, Rush! Don't let the door hit your ass...Oh, I guess you can't help that.
Larry said...
ReplyDeleteIts to bad Kuchinich is looked down on by everyone else. Maybe because he speaks the truth.
Kucinich's problems go back to his days as Boy Mayor Of Cleveland. He ran a horrible administration and threw tantrums, to boot.
No one would seriously put him in charge of anything, based on that performance, even if he did some positive things, like maintain the power company as a public concern.
Utilities are too vital to privatize, and if you look at any place that has privatized them, rates have gone up (helllllo, Enron!), and while service and offerings have increased (hellllo, DSL), the value is way off when you factor in outages and other corrupt practices.
Stephanie Miller will have her radio talk show debut on MSNBC Monday througth Wednesday in the old Don Imus spot.
ReplyDeleteMSNBC is searching for another program to replace the Imus program.
Hopefully Stephanie Miller will get the nod although she will only be on for three days.
Big Eddie has done really well for himself. The wingnuts love to say that nobody wants progressive talk radio, but this is far from true-in several markets, DrearChannel has shuttered successful lefty talk.
ReplyDeleteLefty talk radio has suffered from a combination of horrid mismanagement and censorship.
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ReplyDeleteIraq:
ReplyDeleteA car bomb exploded kear Karbala killing at least 70 and wounding 84.
"Surge" on Bush.
You guys are exceptionally witty with your comments today. I especially liked Clifs, "Boulder of Salt" remark.
ReplyDeleteYou guys crack me up.
What time does Basham and Cornell start?
ReplyDeleteI can't believe they called Bill Oreilly "Shrill O'liely" on the main page of their site, LOL.
ReplyDeleteThat ought to make Oreilly happy.
I thought him and Jon Voight were gonna start kissin the other night on his stupid show.
ReplyDeleteI WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteWhat time does Basham and Cornell start?"
Ugh I think your a little late Worf it airs live at 9AM pacific time.
But if you catch the archived recording it starts whenever you want it to start!
Ok. So its 12 Noon Eastern time then on Saturdays?
ReplyDeleteDamn. I wanted to catch it live this week.
ReplyDeleteI'll catch it live next week for sure.........but lately i've been listening to it in the archives usually on Sunday.
ReplyDeleteCarl, Rush is an idiot.............that goes back to the point I made 100 times about Imus that Rush aqnd Coulter etc.........get away with far worse than Imus because they have powerful repug political conections and thats BS.
ReplyDeleteWe should have one standard of justice for ALL, not one for the common man and another for the wealthy elite and those with powerful repug political connections.
Larry said...
ReplyDeleteThe Armed Services Committee has began an investigation into the use of private security contractors in Iraq.
Its about time."
They NEED to take a good hard look at Blackwater and Halliburton............I dont feel very comfortable with Bush and the repugs having their own shadow army that might be loyal to Bush rather than our country!
This country NEEDS oversite on SO MANY fronts.
Why aren't Sharpton and Jackson out marching against what Limbaugh said this week?
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
ReplyDeleteBush administration began drilling oil off the coasts of Virginia and Alaska.
Didn't they get enough oil in Iraq?"
NO Iraqi oil production is WAY WAY down since Saddam was removed from power.............EVERYTHING about this illegal war and occupation is a GRAND FAILURE.............this will go down in history as Bush's Folly and GWB will go down in history as the worst president EVER bar none!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Bush will attack Virginia since he will be drilling off of their coast.
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
ReplyDeleteWhy aren't Sharpton and Jackson out marching against what Limbaugh said this week?"
My guess is they dont think the Reich Wing owned MSM will back them and give them the airtime they need to lynch one of their own...............and probably Sharpton et al like the repugs only pick fights they KNOW they can win ahead of time!
They are in New Orleans marching today and Florida is close enough they could get started by business day Monday.
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
ReplyDeleteMaybe Bush will attack Virginia since he will be drilling off of their coast."
Well Larry thats all window dressing anyway because first of all there is not enough oil in EITHER place to make any kind of meaningful difference secondly it takes at least 5 years for any oil project to even START producing then usually another 10 or so years to reach peak production............by that time unless we are stupid we should have either diversified away from being SO heavily dependent on oil or actually migrated to another more renewable or plentiful source of energy...........if not we will be in severe trouble and our civilization and way of life as we know it will be over.
Maybe it is a smokescreen to say they are doing something since gas will be over $4 soon.
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
ReplyDeleteMaybe it is a smokescreen to say they are doing something since gas will be over $4 soon."
It will be over $4 REAL soon I paid $3.20 a gallon the other day and we are not even in peak summer driving season that usually causes a spike and there has not been a hurricaine or trouble in the Middle East yet to cause a real spike and we are ALLREADY getting close to $4 gas and oil is getting close to $70 also.
It waqs $3.99 near the airport in Orlando today so it will spread soon.
ReplyDeleteI say $4 is a certainty if we have a catalyst like a hurricaine or a war with Iran we could see $5-$12 dollar a gallon gas.
ReplyDeleteNew construction investment fell 17%.
ReplyDeleteThat is not good.
I can't beleive he's going to drill off our shorelines.
ReplyDeleteThose are protected regions, I don't know how he can get away with it. Those areas are considered pristine.
I hope Webb won't let him. Maybe Webb can stop it.
I read an article in paper today he was going to drill off Alaska also and I thought that was protected.
ReplyDeleteAs for progressive radio, I both think and hope we will start to see more and more li=beral/progressive programming as America shifts decisively to the left.......the onoly problem or fly in the ointment is that the MSM is CLEARLY controlled by the Reich Wing and they will fight and try to stifle this movement tooth and nail.........but in a capitalist society where there is a demand for something that demand will USUALLY eventually de met!
ReplyDeleteThe number of progressive talk radio shows throughout the country is on 60.
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
ReplyDeleteNew construction investment fell 17%.
That is not good."
Thats not good at all, particularly when you consider that housing/construction and related industries employ 30%-40% of Americans..............think what a decline like that will do to employment and the economy in the next year!
New home sales fell at the sharpest drop in 40 years.
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
ReplyDeleteI read an article in paper today he was going to drill off Alaska also and I thought that was protected."
I KNOW ANWR is protected, but I dont think the coastal areas with the exception of Florida are........although I am not positive on that one.
WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteI can't beleive he's going to drill off our shorelines.
Those are protected regions, I don't know how he can get away with it. Those areas are considered pristine.
I hope Webb won't let him. Maybe Webb can stop it."
Are you sure about that???
Obviously you would know more about Virginia that me..........but I thought essentially only the coasts of Florida were protected.
Goodyear Tire will close several plants due to a slowdown in the auto industry.
ReplyDeleteOne will be in Tyler Texas, another in Tennessee.
Foreign nations have been losing confidence in America and the Dollar...........dont know if you've been paying attention but the dollar just took out the previous 2004 low yesterday...........not good at all for our economic stability.
ReplyDeleteMy prediction is at this time next year or before we will officially be in recession aand unemployment will have spiked significantly.
ReplyDeleteIn the Federal waters near Virginia and Alaska's Bristol Bay, and the nGulf of Mexico.
ReplyDeleteHuffingtonpost has something on it.
I think we are already in a recession they just won't admit it.
ReplyDeleteOil Refinery on fire in Oklahoma.
ReplyDeleteMike said...
ReplyDeleteI thought essentially only the coasts of Florida were protected.
There are protected areas all over. The reefs and islands are preservation areas. They should not be drilling there.
They have never drilled near Virginia before.
ReplyDeleteI'm listening to last weeks show.
ReplyDeleteIt was a good one. This guy they had on, who is a Jewish, Republican who served in the Military, had it down.
The christian conservative movement is the new Anti-Christ.
I thought you said Lydia mentioned me Larry. I didn't hear it.
ReplyDeleteThat Mike Weinstein was great.
ReplyDeleteWeinstein lives in the middle of Dobson country and he still speaks out.
ReplyDeleteHope Rides Alone
ReplyDeleteUSA Sgt. Eddie Jeffers, USA (Iraq)
February 1, 2007 URL: http://www.newmediajournal.us/guest/e_jeffers/02012007.htm
I stare out into the darkness from my post, and I watch the city burn to the ground. I smell the familiar smells, I walk through the familiar rubble, and I look at the frightened faces that watch me pass down the streets of their neighborhoods. My nerves hardly rest; my hands are steady on a device that has been given to me from my government for the purpose of taking the lives of others.
I sweat, and I am tired. My back aches from the loads I carry. Young American boys look to me to direct them in a manner that will someday allow them to see their families again...and yet, I too, am just a boy....my age not but a few years more than that of the ones I lead. I am stressed, I am scared, and I am paranoid...because death is everywhere. It waits for me, it calls to me from around street corners and windows, and it is always there.
There are the demons that follow me, and tempt me into thoughts and actions that are not my own...but that are necessary for survival. I've made compromises with my humanity. And I am not alone in this. Miles from me are my brethren in this world, who walk in the same streets...who feel the same things, whether they admit to it or not.
And to think, I volunteered for this...
And I am ignorant to the rest of the world...or so I thought.
But even thousands of miles away, in Ramadi, Iraq, the cries and screams and complaints of the ungrateful reach me. In a year, I will be thrust back into society from a life and mentality that doesn't fit your average man. And then, I will be alone. And then, I will walk down the streets of America, and see the yellow ribbon stickers on the cars of the same people who compare our President to Hitler.
I will watch the television and watch the Cindy Sheehans, and the Al Frankens, and the rest of the ignorant sheep of America spout off their mouths about a subject they know nothing about. It is their right, however, and it is a right that is defended by hundreds of thousands of boys and girls scattered across the world, far from home. I use the word boys and girls, because that's what they are. In the Army, the average age of the infantryman is nineteen years old. The average rank of soldiers killed in action is Private First Class.
People like Cindy Sheehan are ignorant. Not just to this war, but to the results of their idiotic ramblings, or at least I hope they are. They don't realize its effects on this war. In this war, there are no Geneva Conventions, no cease fires. Medics and Chaplains are not spared from the enemy's brutality because it's against the rules. I can only imagine the horrors a military Chaplain would experience at the hands of the enemy. The enemy slinks in the shadows and fights a coward’s war against us. It is effective though, as many men and women have died since the start of this war. And the memory of their service to America is tainted by the inconsiderate remarks on our nation's news outlets. And every day, the enemy changes...only now, the enemy is becoming something new. The enemy is transitioning from the Muslim extremists to Americans. The enemy is becoming the very people whom we defend with our lives. And they do not realize it. But in denouncing our actions, denouncing our leaders, denouncing the war we live and fight, they are isolating the military from society...and they are becoming our enemy.
Democrats and peace activists like to toss the word "quagmire" around and compare this war to Vietnam. In a way they are right, this war is becoming like Vietnam. Not the actual war, but in the isolation of country and military. America is not a nation at war; they are a nation with its military at war. Like it or not, we are here, some of us for our second, or third times; some even for their fourth and so on. Americans are so concerned now with politics, that it is interfering with our war.
Terrorists cut the heads off of American citizens on the internet...and there is no outrage, but an American soldier kills an Iraqi in the midst of battle, and there are investigations, and sometimes soldiers are even jailed...for doing their job.
It is absolutely sickening to me to think our country has come to this. Why are we so obsessed with the bad news? Why will people stop at nothing to be against this war, no matter how much evidence of the good we've done is thrown in their face? When is the last time CNN or MSNBC or CBS reported the opening of schools and hospitals in Iraq? Or the leaders of terror cells being detained or killed? It's all happening, but people will not let up their hatred of President Bush. They will ignore the good news, because it just might show people that Bush was right.
America has lost its will to fight. It has lost its will to defend what is right and just in the world. The crazy thing of it all is that the American people have not even been asked to sacrifice a single thing. It’s not like World War II, where people rationed food and turned in cars to be made into metal for tanks. The American people have not been asked to sacrifice anything. Unless you are in the military or the family member of a servicemember, its life as usual...the war doesn't affect you.
But it affects us. And when it is over and the troops come home and they try to piece together what's left of them after their service...where will the detractors be then? Where will the Cindy Sheehans be to comfort and talk to soldiers and help them sort out the last couple years of their lives, most of which have been spent dodging death and wading through the deaths of their friends? They will be where they always are, somewhere far away, where the horrors of the world can't touch them. Somewhere where they can complain about things they will never experience in their lifetime; things that the young men and women of America have willingly taken upon their shoulders.
We are the hope of the Iraqi people. They want what everyone else wants in life: safety, security, somewhere to call home. They want a country that is safe to raise their children in. Not a place where their children will be abducted, raped and murdered if they do not comply with the terrorists demands. They want to live on, rebuild and prosper. And America has given them the opportunity, but only if we stay true to the cause and see it to its end. But the country must unite in this endeavor...we cannot place the burden on our military alone. We must all stand up and fight, whether in uniform or not. And supporting us is more than sticking yellow ribbon stickers on your cars. It's supporting our President, our troops and our cause.
Right now, the burden is all on the American soldiers. Right now, hope rides alone. But it can change, it must change. Because there is only failure and darkness ahead for us as a country, as a people, if it doesn't.
Let's stop all the political nonsense, let's stop all the bickering, let's stop all the bad news and let's stand and fight!
Isn't that what America is about anyway?
We are standing and fighting.
ReplyDeleteWe're fighting the murderers who call themselves patriots by exposing them for what they are, so our system will weed them out, just like it has for 200 years.
The Christian right wing better hope there is no real Jesus waiting to meet them on the other side.
ReplyDeletetard texan also must know that until recently, 70% of all serving soldiers thought Osama and Saddam played tennis every Thursday.
ReplyDeleteHe also must know that as of right now, 3 out of 4 soldiers want out of Iraq.
So why is he cherry-picking? Because his heroes taught him to?
Tall Texan,
ReplyDeleteWhat is it exactly we are fighting for, and who are we fighting, and what is a win, and when do we get to bring our troops home? I'm especially interested in learning what a win would look like.
Hi Lydia,
ReplyDeleteCan you point me to the list of stations that pick up your broadcasts? I don't listen to the radio too much (except NPR) because I generally can't stand:
1. The right-wing hate talk, and
2. All the damned commericals.
But especially #1.
The son of the late E. Howard Hunt will present audio tapes of LBJ's complicity in the JFK assassination at just after 6PM PT / 9PM ET
ReplyDeleteCoast to Coast .
(World premier.)
The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt
ReplyDeleteThe Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt
He was the ultimate keeper of secrets, lurking in the shadows of American history. He toppled banana republics, planned the Bay of Pigs invasion and led the Watergate break-in. Now he would reveal what he'd always kept hidden: who killed JFK
Click link for full article.
Nine U.S soldiers have been killed in Baghdad this weekend.
ReplyDeleteAnother day of celebration for the Bush regime.
Hi Lydia and All!
ReplyDeleteI'm listening to the show in archives...missed it this morning..
About Us
ReplyDeleteThe New Media Journal is an independent, conservative-leaning new media publication[since they are very CONservative, they ain't independent but have a very slanted axe to grind;
a true independent would NOT select or CHERRY PICK] dedicated to bringing you, the reader, the very best and the most accurate news and opinion on the Internet.[ in other wrods, the best cherry picked reichwing approved spin to feed the brain dead kool -aid drinking sheeple like Tiny the liar to spread ] Unlike most new media opinion venues who accept each submitted opinion-editorial, regardless of quality, The New Media Journal has amassed a society of the very best new media [reichwing] pundits from across the Internet, accepting only the very best so that you can find them all in one place. Each day our staff of editors and news item contributors scour the Internet for the best selection of headline news, [IE cherry pick] headlines devoid of editorialization, so as to offer a more fully representative depiction of the events that are happening around the world - and in your backyard. In essence, we at The New Media Journal search the Internet - the new media and the old - for the very best in news and commentary so that you don't have to.[best CONservative lies and spin ] We know your time is valuable and we appreciate that you trust us as your new media news and opinion source of choice.
In other words another reichwing spin operation Nice to see tiny the liar is still foisting reichwing cherry picked spin instead of reality...........
still pushing the reichwing LIES I see you lying sack of bovine feces
The kool aid drinking foole who is behind tiny the liars new reichwing lie and spin website;
ReplyDeleteFrank Salvato is the managing editor for The New Media Journal and serves as the vice president and executive director of Basics Project a non-profit, non-partisan, 501(C)(3) research and education initiative. He is a contributing writer for GOPUSA, CNS News, ChronWatch, Opinion Editorials, Family Security Matters, Canada Free Press, American Daily and The American Chronicle. His pieces have been featured in Townhall.com, The Washington Times, The Conservative Battleline, American Enterprise, The Federal Observer, US Politics Today, The London Morning Paper, Real Clear Politics and Pravda among over 100 other publications both nationally and internationally. He served as an editor for The Washington Dispatch before leaving because of philosophical differences. He has been quoted in The Federalist. He has appeared on The O'Reilly Factor on FOX News Channel. Mr. Salvato is the host of The New Media Journal on BlogTalk Radio, a weekly syndicated internet radio program. He is a regular guest on The Right Balance with Greg Allen on the Accent Radio Network, syndicated on over 20 stations nationally and a semi-regular guest on The Captain's America (WWPR, Bradenton-Sarasota-Tampa Bay), The Kyal 2K Show (KTKK, Salt Lake City) and The Schiffer Report (RightTalk Radio). He had a regular segment on The Bruce Elliott Show (WBAL, Baltimore) titled Frankly Speaking and has been a guest on American Breakfast with Stan Major (National Radio Network), The Kevin Matthews Radio Show (Chicago) and The Brad Messer Radio Show (San Antonio). His writing has been recognized by the US House International Relations Committee and the Japan Center for Conflict Prevention. He has worked as a jazz musician, firefighter/paramedic, harbormaster, political strategist, media consultant and writer. He partnered in producing the first ever symposium addressing the root causes of radical Islamist terrorism. This symposium offered lectures from 14 of the most respected terrorism and counter-terrorism experts in the world, and took place in Washington DC in April of 2006.
I bet the reichwing, spin machine claiming to be INDEPENDENT never mentions this fact;
ReplyDeleteFrom TPM
To follow up on the post below about the Attorney General Awards, DOJ's highest honor, I couldn't help but notice that one of the recipients of last year's Attorney General Award for Fraud Prevention was Robert E. Coughlin, II.
Coughlin was the chief of staff to the head of DOJ's criminal division until his quiet resignation earlier this month, first reported yesterday, allegedly because he is facing scrutiny in the Jack Abramoff investigation.
The award "recognizes exceptional dedication and effort to prevent, investigate, and prosecute fraud and white collar crimes." Coughlin was part of a team honored for its work on post-Hurricane Katrina fraud.
In September, Coughlin was honored for his work on fraud and white collar crime. By the following April, he was out because of his alleged connections to the one of the largest white collar crime investigations in DOJ's history. Only in the Gonzales Justice Department.
-- David Kurtz
Clif:
ReplyDeleteHe was making a little pocket change, in nefarious ways like all Repugs with means.
Former Lt. General declares Bush 'seems to have gone AWOL'
ReplyDeleteThe following, delivered as the Democrats' weekly radio address Saturday and sent out by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), was given by retired Lieutenant General William E. Odom, U.S. Army.
"Good morning, this is Lieutenant General William E. Odom, U.S. Army, retired.
"I am not now nor have I ever been a Democrat or a Republican. Thus, I do not speak for the Democratic Party. I speak for myself, as a non-partisan retired military officer who is a former Director of the National Security Agency. I do so because Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, asked me.
"In principle, I do not favor Congressional involvement in the execution of U.S. foreign and military policy. I have seen its perverse effects in many cases. The conflict in Iraq is different. Over the past couple of years, the President has let it proceed on automatic pilot, making no corrections in the face of accumulating evidence that his strategy is failing and cannot be rescued.
"Thus, he lets the United States fly further and further into trouble, squandering its influence, money, and blood, facilitating the gains of our enemies. The Congress is the only mechanism we have to fill this vacuum in command judgment.
"To put this in a simple army metaphor, the Commander-in-Chief seems to have gone AWOL, that is 'absent without leave.' He neither acts nor talks as though he is in charge. Rather, he engages in tit-for-tat games.
"Some in Congress on both sides of the aisle have responded with their own tits-for-tats. These kinds of games, however, are no longer helpful, much less amusing. They merely reflect the absence of effective leadership in a crisis. And we are in a crisis.
"Most Americans suspect that something is fundamentally wrong with the President's management of the conflict in Iraq. And they are right.
"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place. The war could never have served American interests.
"But it has served Iran's interest by revenging Saddam Hussein's invasion of Iran in the 1980s and enhancing Iran's influence within Iraq. It has also served al Qaeda's interests, providing a much better training ground than did Afghanistan, allowing it to build its ranks far above the levels and competence that otherwise would have been possible.
"We cannot 'win' a war that serves our enemies interests and not our own. Thus continuing to pursue the illusion of victory in Iraq makes no sense. We can now see that it never did.
"A wise commander in this situation normally revises his objectives and changes his strategy, not just marginally, but radically. Nothing less today will limit the death and destruction that the invasion of Iraq has unleashed.
"No effective new strategy can be devised for the United States until it begins withdrawing its forces from Iraq. Only that step will break the paralysis that now confronts us. Withdrawal is the pre-condition for winning support from countries in Europe that have stood aside and other major powers including India, China, Japan, Russia.
"It will also shock and change attitudes in Iran, Syria, and other countries on Iraq's borders, making them far more likely to take seriously new U.S. approaches, not just to Iraq, but to restoring regional stability and heading off the spreading chaos that our war has caused.
"The bill that Congress approved this week, with bipartisan support, setting schedules for withdrawal, provides the President an opportunity to begin this kind of strategic shift, one that defines regional stability as the measure of victory, not some impossible outcome.
"I hope the President seizes this moment for a basic change in course and signs the bill the Congress has sent him. I will respect him greatly for such a rare act of courage, and so too, I suspect, will most Americans.
"This is retired General Odom. Thank you for listening."
Bravo Clif:
ReplyDeleteHis message was right on target.
There are 250,000 people still without homes in New Orleans after nearly two years of Bush promises.
ReplyDeleteWhen General Odom speaks I listen, so did Ronald Reagan who used Gen Odon for his Director of the NSA.
ReplyDeleteHe was also Military assistant to Zbigniew Brzezinski, the assistant to the president for national security affairs.
Obviously both sides of the aisle trusted his military judgement
Over the past couple of years, the President has let it proceed on automatic pilot, making no corrections in the face of accumulating evidence that his strategy is failing and cannot be rescued.
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Hi Clif!
Yes, he is correct and that is the problem..there was never a plan or organization from the get go in this war. Even knowing it has failed..he continues to keep it going.
There are 250,000 people still without homes in New Orleans after nearly two years of Bush promises.
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Larry:
It's pathetic and sad that the situation is still bad in New Orleans. Bush has failed as leader in all situations!
Odom doesn't belong to a political party even though he worked under Reagan.
ReplyDeleteThat should mean something.
Iraq:
ReplyDeleteThere were 156 Iraqi's killed and 164 wounded today in major bombings.
Nine U.S soldiers were also killed in addition.
A Big Party Day For Bush!
Nice to know Bush is sleeping well at night.
ReplyDeleteU.S Allies offered $854 million in money and aid to Katrina victims, and Bush turned them down.
ReplyDeleteNow there are still 250,000 people without homes in New Orleans.
That is Bush's "compassionate conservatism."
Bush is probably having a party with red wine to remind them of all the blood shed today.
ReplyDeleteAnother story the reichwingnut kool-aid laced spin the truth site tiny the liar now loves will never see...............
ReplyDeleteIt’s Only Terrorism When They Are Muslim, Right?
By: Nicole Belle
Remember the story of the three Muslim men who were arrested because they bought cell phones? How many days of coverage did that non-story rate? Now how much airtime has this story gotten?:
Birmingham (AL) News:
Simultaneous raids carried out in four Alabama counties Thursday turned up truckloads of explosives and weapons, including 130 grenades, an improvised rocket launcher and 2,500 rounds of ammunition belonging to the small, but mightily armed, Alabama Free Militia.
Six alleged members of the Free Militia also were arrested by federal authorities and are being held without bond.
Investigators said the DeKalb County-based group had not made any specific threats or devised any plots, but was targeted for swift dismantling because of its heavy firepower. The militia, which called itself the Naval Militia at one point, had enough armament to outfit a small army.
"We classify these groups as violent and anti-government," said Jim Cavanaugh, who supervises the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives operations in portions of the South. "They stockpile things and live off a fear, a paranoia they're going to need weapons and explosives because some event is going to happen when they will need them."
Um, how about we classify them as Domestic Terrorists? I don't know about you but violent, paranoid and heavily armed people near me would be terrifying. As Barbara at Mahablog says, it's a real relief to find out these guys aren't Muslims, huh? Otherwise they might be dangerous or something.
Just to muddy the waters even further as to who is and who isn't a terrorist, the US released suspected Cuban airline bomber Luis Posada Carriles and refused to extradite him as requested to Cuba or Venezuela where he is to stand trial for the deaths of the 73 people on board because….
wait for it…
the 79 year old will certainly be executed for his role in terrorist acts.
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Interesting the corporate owned Reichwingnut leaning MSM has plastered the TV and presses with the story about home grown terrorists in Saudi Arabia who were going to attack inside Saudi Arabia, but those who are home grown reichwingnut terrorists who want to KILL americans and destroy millions of dollars of their property,
NADA.....
Zip.........
Like it is NOT a concern for the American People since it don't play into the mantra of bush's War on Terra..............
This has been such a banner day for blood thirsty Bush that Pickles may get a little lovin tonight.
ReplyDeleteClif:
ReplyDeleteThink about it. It was just a few years ago they were watching these miltia groups because they hated the government.
I doubt their feelings have changed with Bush in there.
I bet Cheney has his fifth platter of pork chops and another drum of red, red wine to celebrate the occasion.
ReplyDeleteI bet Rove is eating red stew and drinking red wine from a Condi's red hip boots to celebrate the occasion.
ReplyDeleteTheres an image I'm not easily getting rid of...
ReplyDeleteI just keep thinking about the big party they are having with blood as the theme.
ReplyDeleteBush declined 54 offers from U.S allies for financial assistance for Katrina victims.
ReplyDeleteThere are still 250,000 people in New Orleans without homes and Bush turns down $854 million to help them.
If that is "compassionate conservatism" I don't want any.
Several thousand protested George W Bush as he spoke today at Miami Dade College.
ReplyDeleteAs thousands protested Bush in Miami, several thousand displaced sicitens marched the streets of New Orleans because 250,000 Katrina victims are still without homes.
Pickles Bush is sipping her fourth pitcher of red colored martinis, and eating red velvet cake in celebration of the Bush family banner day.
ReplyDeletePickles...LOL
ReplyDeleteDo any of those people have normal names? Scooter, Turdblossom, etc.
We take a look today at the way Compassionate Conservatives are spending taxpayer money in Iraq.
ReplyDeleteI don't think we can afford much more "Compassionate Conservatism."
Pickles...LOL
ReplyDeleteDo any of those people have normal names? Scooter, Turdblossom, etc.
No.
In most criminal gangs, the players and hangers-on use aliases.
Protesters heckled Alberto Gonzales as he spoke at a Harvard reunion Saturday.
ReplyDeleteThe protesters wore orange jump suits and some had black hoods.
Iraq:
ReplyDeleteA suicide car bomber struck a crowded street killing at least 75 and wounding 170.
Party Sunday for the Bush family.
There have been 343 U.S troops killed in the first four months of 2007.
ReplyDeleteThat is 53% MORE than were killed in the first four months of 2006.
"Surge" on Bush.
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ReplyDeleteAnyone see Condi Rice on the George Stephanopolis Show........if not they NEED TO!!!
ReplyDeleteRice looked desperate.......she looked rattled..........she looked nervous and scared............she looked like she hadnt slept in a week.
Rice was talking very fast, she seemed evasive and she DID NOT seem very credible. in summary.............she seemed like a liar and she DID NOT seem confident in her lies or in her position on defying Congress by stonewalling and obstructing justice..............Rice seemed like EXACTLY what she was a desperate woman .......a criminal...............acting desperately and resigning her self to going down with a sinking ship rather than do the honorable thing and comply With the Constitution and the oversite provided therein..........instead of doing the honorable thing she clings to discredited criminal and illogical thinking and chooses to side with and protect the treasonous partisan criminals rather than choose to do the right by her country and tell the truth to Congress!
Right wing hate talk? Sign me up! I've been silent for too damn long. Like back in the 90s when I was forced to listen to every single military person at the base I worked on chastise Clinton for oral sex in the White House. I think W's atrocities reach much farther and wider than Clinton could ever muster. Oh, and Clinton didn't leave the White House in with an economy in tatters after financing a war, his pockets and the pockets of the right wing Christian hypocrites!
ReplyDeleteI think W's theme song would be "Another one bites the dust," when one of our American soldiers dies. So, can anyone who happens to be a conservative tell me WHO the real enemy is, WHY we are STILL OVER THERE and WHAT exactly victory would look like?
Just curious...
Hey Jacq, good post and your right.........this winning crap is such BS, these idiots cant even define what winning is they get all quiet and moony eyed when you ask them or start babbling about fighting terrorism.
ReplyDeleteHi Guys
ReplyDeleteLydia, just an FYI as you have followed my Religious Left series. I just put up an installment.
Mike said...
ReplyDeleteAnyone see Condi Rice on the George Stephanopolis Show........if not they NEED TO!!!
I tried to watch it Mike, but couldn't make it through.
I don't need to hear her lies. I knew all she was going to do was lie, and I knew exactly what she was going to say before she said it, so I just turned to Chris Matthews.
She is a paid liar, and and not a very good one. She deserves to go to jail with the rest of them.
There is only one thing to do with Iraq. Pull out.
ReplyDeleteNothing will work until we do.
Once we do, the UN can send in peacekeepers, and we can send in hundreds of billions of dollars.
In other words, our role here is simple. To apologize for invading them. Tell them we're going to make them all rich with massive war reparations, and then leave, and allow the UN to come in and start rebuilding.
No US contractors. No US lead plan. We attacked them, they're not going to forgive that anytime soon. As long as they think we are in charge, they'll continue to fight us and each other.
But if we apologize, send massive wealth their way, and allow the UN to move in and secure the peace, then we might have a chance of salvaging Iraq.
If the Iraqi people think the entire world is going to help them have homes, food, jobs and infrastructure, and that the money is going to flow, so that they become another Dubai, then I think they'll stop fighting.
ReplyDeleteBut as long as we're controlling them, and occupying them, they will never lie down their arms.
Condi Rice is a wasted armpiece for Bush.
ReplyDeleteShe was a worthless National Security Advisor and she has been a horrible, worthless Secretary of State.
Just a few short years ago most of America thought the republicans were the competent, "keep us safe" guys.
ReplyDeleteNow, after seeing their actual performance, most Americans wouldn't give them a job as a night watchman at a Taco stand.
There have been 99 U.S soldiers killed this month in Iraq.
ReplyDeleteBush will have a real party with the 100 mark.
I try not to miss Chris Matthews or Keith O on MSNBC. Those guys totally rock.
ReplyDeleteKeith Olbermann especially when he does his "Special Comments."
ReplyDeleteThats what i've been saying for a while the we as well as the 2008 election NEEDS to focus on competency and credibility a and the Bush administration is COMPLETELY incompetent and doesnt have a shred of credibility.
ReplyDeleteBut what i cant understand is how Rudy Guliani or Dick Cheney can get up on their platform and preach to anyone who will listen that if a repug is not elected in 2008 this country will be MUCH less safe and the big bad terrorists that the "big brave repugs" have been protecting us from all these years are gonna get us..................these people are laughing stocks and fools not fit, qualified or competent enough to be a sitting VP or future president.................this is 2007, and any brainwashed fool with the audacity to STILL shout those bold faced lies from the roof tops should be laughed at like the sad deluded, deranged jokes they are..................How can anyone take these lying fools seriously when they spew such riddiculous BS!
Mike and Jacq;
ReplyDeleteThere have been 99 U.S soldiers killed in Iraq yet Bush refuses to admit it is a mess.
Bush turned down $854 billion in offered aid from U.S allies for Katrina victims, and there are still 250,000 people in New Orleans without homes.
ReplyDeleteI WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteIf the Iraqi people think the entire world is going to help them have homes, food, jobs and infrastructure, and that the money is going to flow, so that they become another Dubai, then I think they'll stop fighting.
But as long as we're controlling them, and occupying them, they will never lie down their arms."
I essentially agree with this but its a little more complicated than that..........Yes we need to get out of there.........and yes we need to convince the common man that after the infrastructure is rebuilt they will be more prosperous and have better lives.............but we wrote the oil contracts that favor American interests both gov and corporate as well as the gov we installed and are pushing and backing and those contracts are in the Bush oil cronnies and their puppet governments best interests FAR MORE than the common Iraqi;s best interests, couple that with the different sectarian, and relgious militia fighting for power and control and its a lot more complicated than us just pulling out although that is what is needed to get the process started and get on the path to stabilization.
I think for peace you have to give all the factions a fair deal and share in the profits and investment in a stable prosperous Iraq and make sure the oil and other infrastructure improves the lives of the common iraqi instead of just the Bush administration and their oil cronnies and puppet governments while the Iraqi people still live in horrid conditions
Bush is a fool he will be known as a butcher, a war criminal and the worst most evil, corrupt and incompetent president EVER!
ReplyDeleteThose factions are all fighting each other and they are fighting the U.S.
ReplyDeleteIf Bush had stayed out of there it was calm.
Bush gave them a chance to all fight for the entire pot of gold.
Thats what I'm saying Mike. Get the US contractors out. Bring in the UN to find out where the oils going and get the money flowing back to the Iraqi people.
ReplyDeleteLet the Iraqi's decide when and where their elections will be. Let the Iraqi's decide everything with regards to their government. Remove ALL American influence and watch.
They'll want to pull it together just to show we were wrong.
The way it is now it is everyone rogue group for themselves and against the U.S.
ReplyDeleteBut the money must flow. And they've got to know its coming. We've got to get the money into the hands of individuals and communities and we've got to let them know that they are going to be helped by the international community to rebuild and that they will all have homes, jobs, and everything else. All they have to do is take it.
ReplyDeleteBut as long as they think the US is pulling the strings, they'll never stop fighting.
The Iraqi's aren't getting anything now.
ReplyDeleteThey have less electricity, less water, less jobs and where are their profits from the oil?
I WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteThats what I'm saying Mike. Get the US contractors out. Bring in the UN to find out where the oils going and get the money flowing back to the Iraqi people.
Let the Iraqi's decide when and where their elections will be. Let the Iraqi's decide everything with regards to their government. Remove ALL American influence and watch.
They'll want to pull it together just to show we were wrong."
That seriously could work..........it would take some time for all the factions to both make concessions and develop trust for the process but it serious is the ONLY thing that could work now!
Larry said...
ReplyDeleteThose factions are all fighting each other and they are fighting the U.S.
If Bush had stayed out of there it was calm.
Bush gave them a chance to all fight for the entire pot of gold.
The way it is now it is everyone rogue group for themselves and against the U.S.
The Iraqi's aren't getting anything now.
They have less electricity, less water, less jobs and where are their profits from the oil?"
EXACTLY right............a perfect summary of whats going on over there.
The longer the U.S is there the more groups will join the fray.
ReplyDeleteI WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteBut the money must flow. And they've got to know its coming. We've got to get the money into the hands of individuals and communities and we've got to let them know that they are going to be helped by the international community to rebuild and that they will all have homes, jobs, and everything else. All they have to do is take it.
But as long as they think the US is pulling the strings, they'll never stop fighting."
Exactly...........they see America as an imperial occupying power and with GWB calling the shots thats essentially true..........they see themselves as patriots trying to expell an invading occupying force and they will NEVER stop fighting as long as they think we are pulling the strings and any development is in our best interests rather than theirs.
They have U.S constructed buildings falling down and they wonder where their money is.
ReplyDeleteWell think of it this way what would most Americans do if China or Russia invaded and occupied us and tried to control and pillage our resources............most REAL Americans would rise up and resist the invaders...........although treasonous cowards like TT and the Neo Cons would probably support the invaders if the could steal a piece of the loot and obtain money and power out of it...............money and power is ALL the repugs value and care about.
ReplyDeleteThe Iraqi people would as soon kill a soldier than have them in their country.
ReplyDeleteMike said...
ReplyDeleteThat seriously could work..........it would take some time for all the factions to both make concessions and develop trust for the process but it serious is the ONLY thing that could work now!
Exactly Mike!
It will take time, and not everyone will comply, which is why the UN peacekeepers, there at the bidding of the Iraqi people, will need to assist, particularly in the beginning.
But as they see the US's hand out of it, and the international communities support, I think they might stop fighting, and go for the brass ring.
Dick Durbin says the Intelligence agency knew Bush was lying about WMD's at the time, but nobody spoke up because mthey were sworn to secrecy.
ReplyDeleteIn other words a bunch of stuffed shirt Senators, stood idly by and let Bush launch a war that would kill thousands, including thousands of U.S soldiers, because they "promised not to tell."
I have been giving the issue some serious thought lately.
ReplyDeleteUp until now I have always been firm on the "divided" Iraq, idea. And that just may play a part of this.
But that scenario alone doesn't explain how we'll get them to stop fighting. Good fences do make good neighbors, but only as long as the neighbors aren't trying to climb over the fence because his neighbors house is so much nicer.
So I've been thinking hard on it, and then it came to me.
The reason we're still there is the stubborn pride of a few. Even if they thought our pulling out would work, Bush and the republicans don't want to lose face. They don't want to admit they were wrong.
But thats whats going to have to happen. The US needs to allow the Iraqi people to save face, and take this one on the chin.
We need to pull out, and turn it over to the EU and the UN, and our only role is paying the hundreds of billions of dollars its going to take to rebuild the country.
The world will see us as a gentle giant that tried to do good, but screwed up. They'll see us as reasonable again, and almost patriarchal, as we sheepishly hand over our money and step aside, to let the Iraqi people get their lives back together.
I am not saying its a sure thing of course, but I think its the only thing that has a prayer.
We certainly can't "kill all the terrorists", since every man, woman and child in Iraq is potentially one.
Lets give peace a chance again.
Larry said...
ReplyDeleteDick Durbin says the Intelligence agency knew Bush was lying about WMD's at the time, but nobody spoke up because mthey were sworn to secrecy.
In other words a bunch of stuffed shirt Senators, stood idly by and let Bush launch a war that would kill thousands, including thousands of U.S soldiers, because they "promised not to tell."
True, but we need to get away from hanging the whistleblowers.
If we keep bashing guys like Durbin and Tenet everytime they speak up, then it doesn't exactly encourage more whistleblowers to step up now does it?
We need to save that for later, and not lose sight of the real culprits here. We don't need to bag the enablers. We need to bag the "deciders".
You're right Worf:
ReplyDeleteIt ticked me off when I saw him on the news explaining himself.
The real culprits won't explain themselves.
Me too. Pissed me off something bad. Thats because I knew back then when they were rolling over what was going on and it made me bad they didn't show spine.
ReplyDeleteBut I've decided that if we're going to move forward as a country, with sooooooooooooo many of us complicit in all this in one way or another, that we are going to need to learn to practice some forgiveness on the whole, and go after only those who were directly responsible for the great lie.
And thats Bush, Cheney and their entire administration.
When we impeach them, and pull out of Iraq, the healing will start to begin.
ReplyDeleteThe world will forgive us, but not until we do.
Murtha mentioned Impeachment on Face the Nation.
ReplyDeletePelosi is the hold out.
Maybe she's afraid of being President.
ReplyDeleteAfter all, she'd be inheriting one hell of a mess.
Worf said "The reason we're still there is the stubborn pride of a few. Even if they thought our pulling out would work, Bush and the republicans don't want to lose face. They don't want to admit they were wrong.
ReplyDeleteBut thats whats going to have to happen. The US needs to allow the Iraqi people to save face, and take this one on the chin.
We need to pull out, and turn it over to the EU and the UN, and our only role is paying the hundreds of billions of dollars its going to take to rebuild the country.
The world will see us as a gentle giant that tried to do good, but screwed up. They'll see us as reasonable again, and almost patriarchal, as we sheepishly hand over our money and step aside, to let the Iraqi people get their lives back together."
Well I am COMPLETE agreement with your first statement...........We are there because of the stubborn pride of a few evil arrogant men who welcome death rather than losing face.
As for you second statement I dont see it that way at all.........I think the world will see us as as a misguided deluded giant that did not try to do good.... but rather was mislead and deceived by a few arrogant evil treasonous men.........it will hopefully temper their hatred of America and their seeing the entire country as evil but they will see us as misguided Simpletons lead astray by a pack of fools.
The world already hates us now so pulling out couldn't make their opinion any worse.
ReplyDeleteI WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
Dick Durbin says the Intelligence agency knew Bush was lying about WMD's at the time, but nobody spoke up because mthey were sworn to secrecy.
In other words a bunch of stuffed shirt Senators, stood idly by and let Bush launch a war that would kill thousands, including thousands of U.S soldiers, because they "promised not to tell."
True, but we need to get away from hanging the whistleblowers.
If we keep bashing guys like Durbin and Tenet everytime they speak up, then it doesn't exactly encourage more whistleblowers to step up now does it?
We need to save that for later, and not lose sight of the real culprits here. We don't need to bag the enablers. We need to bag the "deciders"."
Exactly..........the "Deciders's" NEED to be brought to justice for their treason and war crimes.........they are traitors and should be charged, tried, convicted and treated as such.............I already stated what has been done to traitors in the past and that I feel the this administration are clearly guilty of treason.......so i will leave it at that today.
Mike said...
ReplyDeleteAs for you second statement I dont see it that way at all.........I think the world will see us as as a misguided deluded giant that did not try to do good.... but rather was mislead and deceived by a few arrogant evil treasonous men.........
Well they certainly see us that way now.
But I believe if they see us impeach Bush and Cheney, pull out of Iraq and offer unlimited monetary compensation to help rebuild the country, and take a "kinder, gentler approach" to our dealing with world leaders that President Pelosi would almost certainly employ, then I think they will be more forgiving than you give them credit for.
The world loves the US.
They love to love the US.
And thanks to our fathers and their fathers, we've got a lot of good credit there.
If Bush was treated like the Repugs treated Clinton, he would have already been run out of a town on a rail.
ReplyDeleteThey will see our democracy is stronger in the end than Bush and his followers, and they will forgive us, like they did when we finally pulled out of Viet Nam.
ReplyDeleteIt may take some time, but it will happen I think.
We all need to start thinking positive.
After Murtha mentioned Impeachment on Face the Nation, Roger Simon told Schieffer that people don't want a President Cheney.
ReplyDeleteThey have that now.
I NEVER said they WOULDNT be somewhat forgiving I just said that they were and still are probably appalled and astounded that a bunch of Simpletons could allow Bush and his pack of Neo Con fools to hijack a and deceive an entire country for years and no one questioned it,
ReplyDeleteI agree they will see us doing the right thing and soften their hearts and let go of much of their hatred and some of their contempt........but they will STILL se Americans as simpleminded unquestionion fools..........and after the last 6 years RIGHTLY SO!!!!!
But regardless Bush, Cheney, Gonzalez etc.........NEED TO BE IMPEACHED.
ReplyDeleteDid you see Condi Rice today.........she was lying and she looked scared and nervous......she looked like she hasnt slept in a week.
She tried to act defiant but she loked more nervous and scared!
Condi is refusing a subpoena as all these lies are catching up with her and her boyfriend.
ReplyDeleteThen Condi needs to be put in jail for contempt and obstruction of justice.
ReplyDeleteAnd I could be wrong but I believe Bush cant pardon members of his administration if impeachment proceedings against him have begun.
ReplyDeleteCondi doesn't have time to talk to Congress but she sure has time to be on talk shows.
ReplyDeleteThis morning she did ABC's "This Week", NBC's "Face the Nation" and CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer".
She sure has time to talk to them, but for some reason can't talk to Congress.
The time Condi spent on talk shows could have been before Congress.
ReplyDeleteArmy wants to add another 65,000 by extending the current stay another six months.
ReplyDeleteThey have lied and denied soldiers their one year leave, and the refuse to let others out when their service has expired.
I don't know if anyones mentioned this yet, but this morning, the US Military started shelling Southern Bagdhad.
ReplyDeleteThis morning, we started using Artillery on a civillian target.
We are officially war criminals.
I know we've done it before, but to start shelling the people of Baghdad is going to cost us big in the international community.
ReplyDeleteWe are using artillery on civillians.
So much for Bush's "Surgical raids".
I can't even believe I am saying this, but its true.
ReplyDeleteSunday morning, as part of "the Bush crackdown", we started using Artillery on civillians.
Feeling proud this morning are we Voltron?
If they are shelling civilians how does that make Bush different from Bin Laden?
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't.
ReplyDeleteWell there is one small difference.
ReplyDeleteApparently Bin Laden is not as near an effective killer as is our little King George.
Bin Laden killed several thousaqnd Americans and that was a horrific crime.
ReplyDeleteNow Bush is mowing down Iraqi civilians and that is supposed to be fine.
I think there are international laws regarding the use of artillery on civillian targets.
ReplyDeleteWe need to pay attention to this, because I think this is going to be front and center this week.
I think as more Americans hear that as part of the Bush crackdown, we're now shelling southern Baghdad, I think whats left of public support will erode.
voltron said...
ReplyDeleteOf course none of you guys should EVER blame the terrorists. Terrorists target innocent civilians."
Who are the terrorists Volt because with evil Fools like Bush targetting civilians its getting hard to tell?
Most Americans are going to be appalled to learn that instead of the surgical raids Bush and Rice are talking about, we're instead shelling civillians, hoping to hit a few terrorists.
ReplyDeleteI think everyones just going to say, "give it up Mr President, ...just give it up".
I can't find any death totals on this.
ReplyDeleteGeorge Tenet is on 60 minutes tonight to cover his back and hopefully spill his guts.
ReplyDeleteLarry said...
ReplyDeleteI can't find any death totals on this.
Well we're not likely to find too many. Iraqi deaths for the most part go unreported except for the bodies found laying in the streets or the ones who die in hospitals. (ever wonder why the insurgents lay dead bodies in the street? cause they know we won't count them otherwise).
Besides, the shelling just started this morning, so who the hells gonna go in there and count bodies under live Artillery fire.
But I am sure we'll be hearing about this soon.
Larry said...
ReplyDeleteGeorge Tenet is on 60 minutes tonight to cover his back and hopefully spill his guts
Be looking for something big this week to happen to divert from this.
Tenet is going to be the most damaging thing to hit Bush out of the millions of things hitting him lately.
Tenet's intel is what him and Cheney reference everytime they're cornered on why we went into Iraq.
If Tenet is now stating that they misused his intel, then they're screwed. No one can bail them out of that.
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US launches artillery barrage in southern Baghdad
ReplyDeleteBAGHDAD, April 29 (Reuters)
The U.S. military in Iraq launched an artillery barrage in southern Baghdad on Sunday against suspected insurgent targets, with two dozen loud explosions shaking the southern outskirts of the capital.
U.S. military spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Christopher Garver said the morning blasts, which were heard across the city, were caused by U.S. artillery but declined to say what the target was.
Sunday is a bad day to get results. It may be on tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteThe top 1% of the wealthiest Americans earn 23% of all of America's income.
ReplyDeleteThat is another part of Bush's America.
The U.S has the slowest growing economy of all the major countries.
ReplyDeleteThat is more of Bush's America.
Doug Basham made a great comment with regards to Obama.
ReplyDeleteObama sounded hawkish, and is over the top on Iran.
I hope Obama was just saying that because he wants out of Iraq, and they are trying to say he is weak.
ReplyDeleteI still didn't like the comment.
Jim Cramer just predicted on Chris Matthews weekend show that the U.S will be in a major recession before the end of the year.
ReplyDeleteMore of the Bush economy.
NBC News is reporting that the Senate will launch an investigation into the Bush administration, over their refusal to take the $853 billion offered from U.S allies for Katrina victims.
ReplyDeleteIts about time.
Larry said...
ReplyDeleteJim Cramer just predicted on Chris Matthews weekend show that the U.S will be in a major recession before the end of the year.
More of the Bush economy."
I heard that..............remember who said it first..............I said that months ago and I just said it again yesterday..........Cramers finally agreeing with me..............it sucks to always be right!!
Cramer predicts stocks everyday and he should know.
ReplyDeleteTenet sure is defensive. He feels bad about the Americans killed on 9/11 but hasn't said he feels bad about all the deaths he helped cause on Iraq.
ReplyDeleteGas prices has risen 36 cents this month alone.
ReplyDeleteMore of the Bush economy.
BTW, Cramer hasnt predicted a recession since the last one about 6-7 years ago as far as i'm aware he's never been wrong predicting a recession.
ReplyDeleteCramer is supposed to have a good track record on stocks.
ReplyDeleteCondi Rice is a wasted armpiece for Bush.
ReplyDeleteShe was a worthless National Security Advisor and she has been a horrible, worthless Secretary of State.
She may have more degrees than a thermometer-but she's a ditz. Anna Nicole knew more about the world around her, even stoned.
Wayne Madsen said awhile back that Condoliesalot and Chimpy were getting it on, and I believe it. All of you who are married (or even unmarried) had to have had the same reaction I did when Condoliesalot referred to Chimpy as her "husband."
Jolly:
ReplyDeleteCondi has followed Bush around for years and neither has ever been a success at anything except ruining everything they touch.
Larry said...
ReplyDeleteJolly:
Condi has followed Bush around for years and neither has ever been a success at anything except ruining everything they touch."
LOL................Thats so perfect it would almost be funny if it werent true!!!!!!!!
Did anyone see the Bill Maher video on Doug and Lydia;s site where he said that Bush is a schizo!
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