MICHAEL JACKSONS MEMORIAL SERVICE
Right now, news helicopters are hovering over our house which is near the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, where the Jackson family is convening after the amazing memorial service.
The saddest part: Paris Michael Katherine, 11, broke down in sobs and said "My daddy was the best father you could ever imagine..."
Jermaine Jackson touched me deeply, with his beautiful voice and quiet suffering, singing "Smile" by Charlie Chaplin, Michael's favorite song from "Modern Times."
I adore Jermaine, and got to introduce him on Dick Clark's Rockin' Eve. What a loving, gentle soul.
Brooke Shields was wonderful too.
To all the cynics who believe he was guilty: he was innocent. Not only was he found innocent by a jury of his peers, but at the deepest level he was the purest soul. he was COMPLETELY innocent of all charges, and I know it as I know my own children, as I know the sun will come up tomorrow.
People just can't understand a pure soul. If anything, Michael was asexual.
Rest in Peace, Michael.
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From 5pm, MTV News will be covering the event with a special 1 hour build -up to the show, followed by the full star-studded service which will include the likes of Mariah Carey, Jennifer Hudson, Usher and Stevie Wonder.
Also performing is 12-year-old Britain's Got Talent star Shaheen Jafargholi who will sing his rendition of Who's Lovin You.
The full line-up confirmed so far include Kobe Bryant, Mariah Carey, Berry Gordy, Jennifer Hudson, Magic Johnson, Martin Luther King III, Bernice A. King, John Mayer, Lionel Richie, Smokey Robinson, Rev. Al Sharpton, Brooke Shields, Usher, Shaheen Jafargholi and Stevie Wonder.
An estimated one billion viewers worldwide will watch today's event as mourners tune into Jackson's send-off at the Los Angeles stadium.
Look, I had nothing good to say about her during the disgusting election campaign — and was horrified that she used race-baiting and right-wing fringe-loony baiting, in saying President Obama was "paling around with terrorists". And at the time I judged her harshly and assumed she was a narcissist. Even now I have no idea if she's being authentic right now, but I suspect her heart has been damaged by the ugliness of politics. I actually think she is making the smartest decision for her family. Anyway, as Abraham Lincoln said: "A winner never quits and a quitter never wins." So she wouldn"t stand a chance winning the GOP nomination.
"It's so much easier to write a resume than to craft a spirit." - Anna Quindlen
I think maybe she woke up in the nick of time and realized her blind ambition was destroying her family.
I blinked and my kids were in puberty. I was too busy for a few minutes and they went from being sweet 10 and 11 year olds to obnoxious jerks!! I wish I had savored the sweet phase a little longer.
the graduation ceremony of an American university where she was awarded an
Honorary PhD.
Most brilliant, to the point speech to get all of us thinking....
"I'm a novelist. My work is human nature. Real life is all I know. Don't
ever confuse the two, your life and your work. You will walk out of here
this afternoon with only one thing that no one else has. There will be
hundreds of people out there with your same degree: there will be thousands
of people doing what you want to do for a living. But you will be the only
person alive who has sole custody of your life. Your particular life. Your
entire life. Not just your life at a desk or your life on a bus or in a car
or at the computer. Not just the life of your mind, but the life of your
heart. Not just your bank accounts but also your soul.
People don't talk about the soul very much anymore. It's so much easier to
write a resume than to craft a spirit. But a resume is cold comfort on a
winter' night, or when you're sad, or broke, or lonely, or when you've
received your test results and they're not so good.
Here is my resume: I am a good mother to three children. I have tried never
to let my work stand in the way of being a good parent. I no longer consider
myself the centre of the universe. I show up. I listen. I try to laugh. I am
a good friend to my husband. I have tried to make marriage vows mean what
they say. I am a good friend to my friends and them to me. Without them,
there would be nothing to say to you today, because I would be a cardboard
cut out. But I call them on the phone and I meet them for lunch. I would be
rotten, at best mediocre, at my job if those other things were not true.
You cannot be really first rate at your work if your work is all you are. So
here's what I wanted to tell you today: Get a life. A real life, not a manic
pursuit of the next promotion, the bigger pay cheque, the larger house. Do
yo think you'd care so very much about those things if you blew an aneurysm
one afternoon or found a lump in your breast?
Get a life in which you notice the smell of salt water pushing itself on a
breeze at the seaside, a life in which you stop and watch how a red-tailed
hawk circles over the water, or the way a baby scowls with concentration
when she tries to pick up a sweet with her thumb and first finger.
Get a life in which you are not alone. Find people you love, and who love
you. And remember that love is not leisure, it is work. Pick up the phone.
Send an email. Write a letter. Get a life in which you are generous. And
realize that life is the best thing ever, and that you have no business
taking it for granted. Care so deeply about its goodness that you want to
spread it around. Take money you would have spent on beer and give it to
charity. Work in a soup kitchen. Be a big brother or sister. All of you want
to do well. But if yo do not do good too, then doing well will never be
enough.
It is so easy to waste our lives, our days, our hours, and our minutes. It
is so easy to take for granted the colour of our kids' eyes, the way the
melody in a symphony rises and falls and disappears and rises again. It is
so easy to exist instead of to live.
I learned to live many years ago. I learned to love the journey, not the
destination. I learned that it is not a dress rehearsal, and that today is
the only guarantee you get. I learned to look at all the good in the world
and try to give some of it back because I believed in it, completely and
utterly. And I tried to do that, in part, by telling others what I had
learned. By telling them this: Consider the lilies of the field. Look at the
fuzz on a baby's ear. Read in the back yard with the sun on your face.
Learn to be happy. And think of life as a terminal illness, because if you
do, you will live it with joy an passion as it ought to be lived".
Here is a picture of Lake Geneva in Wisconsin, my son took this with his i-phone last week.
Well I certainly don't think its the right thing to quit your job and walk off leaving the job unfinished and turning your back on the people who voted for you.
ReplyDeleteBeing the Governor isn't about Palin. It's about the State of Alaska and the people of the State of Alaska.
Now I'm not saying they're not likely better off without her. Obviously they are.
But just quitting, from what most of the insiders are saying is to make more money, is a pathetic and irresponsible thing to do.
I bet her voters don't care about her personal matters. They elected her to do a job. And she just turned her back on them.
Some leader.
I admire your willingness to extend the benefit of the doubt to someone who pretty much has been a lie since the days of her multiple-college youth.
ReplyDeleteShe has accomplished absolutely nothing positive during her reign as America's Welfare Queen. It is highly likely that several dozen Alaskan natives froze to death last winter because she couldn't have her schedule interrupted down in the "outside." She introduced, and then stoked, a venomous racist-fueled hatred of the President that cannot be divorced from the many recent acts of right-wing violence. She turned Wasilla into a gutter of strip malls and meth houses. And, I believe, this decision to quit will soon be married up to even more unpleasantness just down the road.
Her greed, Narcissism, and utter stupidity have set the image of American women in the world back another 10 years (to add to the 20 years Lecondel Rice managed to set it back.) And having watched her pimp out her obviously-troubled family during the last campaign cycle, I respectfully have to disagree with the notion that Sarahpoleon ever gave a damn about anyone but herself.
I understand the family values thing and that's fine. But when you swear an executive oath then you're bound to uphold that oath and serve the people you swore to serve.
ReplyDeleteYou don't just walk off the job and turn your back on those people you swore an oath to.
That shows utter irresponsibility and selfishness. Two qualities not associated with leadership.
You guys have a point. I guess I was looking at it from a mom's point of view. With so many people in the public eye dying lately -- it brings it home that life is too short to waste a moment and ruin your children's lives.
ReplyDeleteI think maybe she woke up in the nick of time and realized her blind ambition was destroying her family.
I blinked and my kids were in puberty. I was too busy for a few minutes and they went from being sweet 10 and 11 year olds to obnoxious jerks!! I wish I had savored the sweet phase a little longer.
lol
ReplyDeleteI was laughing at "I blinked and my kids were in puberty".
ReplyDeleteThat just sounded funny.
You're a piece of work (actually, you're a piece of something else but whatever), Bart. I DON'T criticize right-wingers and I'm a right-winger. I DO criticize right-wingers and I'm still a right-winger BECAUSE I'M ONLY MAKING BELIEVE!!! Catch 22, and from an idiot, too, no less. Oh, and, Clif. I NEVER said that diplomacy doesn't work. I'm against frigging war (95% of 'em anyway), you straw-man creating unemployable stooge. I DO support Obama. I even kind of like him (well, except for the out of control spending). I was directing that comment more at you stooges. You have this idiotic notion that only Republicans are idiots. That's ridiculous. Any free-thinking person who follows politics KNOWS that that's ridiculous. The Democrats just got done passing a bill that mandates that people refurbish their houses before they can sell them. AND THEY DID THIS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOUSING DEPRESSION!!!!!!!!! DUH! And, yes, it was a Republican administration that got us involved knee-deep overseas - so they're idiots, too. They're ALL idiots.
ReplyDeleteYes, Obama has good credentials. But so, too, does Ann Coulter. She graduated cum laude from Cornell and was Order of the Coif at U. of Michigan law school (the 9th best law school in the nation according to U.S. News and World Report). And, yes, she was an editor at the Michigan Law Review. Hm. Still think credentials are important?
ReplyDeleteBut Will, Ann Coulter lacks the only thing that's important in life: human kindness.
ReplyDeleteBut she can still change -- when she finally wakes up and realizes she is all alone surrounded by crowds.
I always tell my kids: no matter what you accomplish or acquire in life, if you're not kind to others, you've missed the whole point.
Does anyone remember any pundit in history or any "cynic" except for the good deeds they do? If Mother Theresa had merely been a pious moralistic nun, and hadn't reached out to those Christ commanded us to help -- the downtrodden, the poorest of the poor -- would she be so loved and revered even after death?
Love is all that matters.
Please read my post. This is truly the best speech ever given at a University by a Pulitzer Prize winner.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteYes, Obama has good credentials. But so, too, does Ann Coulter
Yes Will. Most left leaning moderates usually compare President Obama with Ann Coulter.
And as for criticizing right wingers, you don't do it in here.
ReplyDeleteWhat we do see you doing, is defending the right while constantly attacking the left.
ReplyDeleteLike you did last night when you gleefully declared "we still have Biden to laugh at" and included the President, actually insinuating that he was dumb for making a flub about the states.
The guy graduated from Harvard and was the editor of the Harvard law review. You think he doesn't know how many states there are?
It was a misspeak.
But you seized on it, repeating it and mocking him as a fool, along with Vice President Biden, declaring "WE" have them to laugh at.
In that moment, you forgot your disguise, and channeled cRusty.
In that moment, you showed as clearly as could possibly be shown, that you are nothing more than the right wing troll scum, that we always knew you were.
And worse than most right wing troll scum, because you're too much the wimp to admit what you are, and instead use deceit and deception to sell your right wing garbage.
You're an obsessed nutcase, who set up a fake blog to try and fool people into thinking you're a liberal, so you could water down left wing talking points and shore up right wing ones.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, guys, we still have Joe Biden to laugh at. "Stand up and take a bow", he says to the guy confined to a wheelchair. LOL Even Obama. He thinks we have 57 states, for Christ!!!
cRusty couldn't have said it better himself.
Poor widdle will so much attention seeking for the attention seeking, reich wing talking point spewing, concern trolling fraud, so little brain power to do it.
ReplyDeleteI didn't say that Ann Coulter was a decent or even a serious human being. These guys were touting credentials and I was trying to show them that, clearly, it isn't even remotely the entire story.
ReplyDeleteClif, you're repeating your stock phrases. Not that they aren't jim-dandies, of course.
ReplyDeleteI DO criticize conservatives here, Bart. You just happen to think that I'm always faking it. Damn it, you would have been a great judge at the Salem Witchcraft trials.
ReplyDeleteIf you criticized conservatives you wouldn't have to keep telling people how you criticize conservatives.
ReplyDeleteBecause everyone would see you doing it.
Instead, all we ever see you doing is attacking liberals.
ReplyDeleteWill "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteI didn't say that Ann Coulter was a decent or even a serious human being
No, you just dragged the President and his success at Harvard, the number ONE school, down to that of Coulters, comparing him to her.
Just like last night when you dragged Keith Olberman down to the level of Sean Hannity, a proven liar.
Hannity lies constantly.
Olberman is openly biased but he does not lie.
Yet you put them in the same class.
Just like a good little lying concern troll would do.
And then of course, there's this little gem.
ReplyDeleteWill "take no prisoners" Hart said...
Don't worry, guys, we still have Joe Biden to laugh at. "Stand up and take a bow", he says to the guy confined to a wheelchair. LOL Even Obama. He thinks we have 57 states, for Christ!!!
cRusty couldn't have said it better himself.
Palin is a joke. Her sudden resignation comes out just days after a CBS story airs showing leaked emails between her and McCain's campaign strategist Steve Schmidt, where she asks Schmidt to LIE to the public and the press about Todd's membership in a secessionist party.
ReplyDeleteSchmidt actually rebukes her in his responding message and refuses to spread her lie.
"The statement you are suggesting be released would be inaccurate.
The inaccuracy would bring greater media attention to this matter and be a distraction.
We will not put out a statement and inflame this and create a situation where john has to adress this."
- Steve Schmidt
So now Palin up and quits, because she can't handle the pressure.
So ends her chances of being President.
Or even a ONE Term Governor.
Because she's quitting.
Walking off the job.
With a year and a half to go on it.
Never even finishing her FIRST Term.
Making her highest qualification being the Mayor of a small Alaskan town of around 7000 people.
:)
There's your savior of the republican party for you.
Down the tubes like the rest of them.
Blogger GHOST OF WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteWill "take no prisoners" Hart said...
Yes, Obama has good credentials. But so, too, does Ann Coulter
Yes Will. Most left leaning moderates usually compare President Obama with Ann Coulter."
EXACTLY NO fair minded moderate would compare President Obama to a bitter mean spirited lying right wing hack like Coulter.
Blogger GHOST OF WORFEUS said...
ReplyDeleteWill "take no prisoners" Hart said...
I didn't say that Ann Coulter was a decent or even a serious human being
No, you just dragged the President and his success at Harvard, the number ONE school, down to that of Coulters, comparing him to her.
Just like last night when you dragged Keith Olberman down to the level of Sean Hannity, a proven liar.
Hannity lies constantly.
Olberman is openly biased but he does not lie.
Yet you put them in the same class.
Just like a good little lying concern troll would do."
I've made this EXACT point over a HUNDRED times.......repuggies like to compare Olberman to Hannity but or MSNBC to FOX.......but its an apples to oranges comparison, while both have a political bias, Hannity and Fox are lying propagandists while Olberman and MSNBC report the truth and facts even though they might exhibit a slight bias or report facts that portray conservatives unfavorably.........AND THATSA NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE!
Exactly. Olberman is partisan and no one including him has ever denied that. He's open about it.
ReplyDeleteBut he doesn't lie.
Hannity is a shill for the right and constantly lies.
No "left leaning moderate" would ever put Olberman in Hannity's class.
On this very blog, I referred to John McCain as George Bush on steroids. I said that Sean Hannity was the most biased host on cable news. I said that Hank Paulsen was the worst Secretary of the Treasury in U.S. history. I totally agreed with Mike that that Cheney comment on deficits not mattering was stupid beyond the pale. And on Volt's site, I defended Obama on the Reverend Wright fiasco AND on the socialism charge. I also debated Volt by saying that I thought Obama was a pragmatist, as opposed to Volt saying that he was an ideologue (Volt may have been right on that one, unfortunately). Compare this to you guys who NEVER accuse liberals of being TOO liberal....or of being unfair.
ReplyDeleteI was a consistent critic of Fox News for 12 months before I ever knew you guys existed. For youa'll to say that I'm faking it now is just plain idiotic.
ReplyDeleteOf course, Keith Olbermann lies. He tells bald-faced lies. He slanderously lied about Baltimore Sun media critic, David Zurawik. He called him a partisan when he is in fact no such thing (the right has accused Mr. Zurawik of having Palin derangement syndrome). He lied about Fox News's Major Garrett (one of the few guys at Fox that I respect). He said that Garrett never reported James Carville's and Paul Begala's denial about working for the Obama campaign. Not only did Mr. Garrett report it, he reported it TWICE!! He lied about David Letterman apologizing twice for those miserable jokes he told about Palin. That first "apology" wasn't anywhere close to an apology. And Olbermann knows it. Does he lie as much as Hannity does? I don't kow. Maybe not. But for you to hold this lunatic up as some sort of great journalist is ludicrous. Plus, he's creepy. I'm beginning to think that he actually thinks he's Edward R. Murrow. Time for him to up his medsies. FO SHO!!
ReplyDeleteYou rest my case.
ReplyDeleteTime for him to up his medsies. FO SHO!!.
ReplyDeleteMe thinks widdle will just had a pot kettle moment.
Dishonest and delusional as ever Will!
ReplyDeleteYou've become boring widdle will
ReplyDeleteI like it how you guys don't address a single point I made. I was a Fox News critic for 12 months before I ever met you guys, and now I'm a big Fox apologist. Now THAT is delusional.
ReplyDeleteI like it how you pretend we haven't addressed your stupid point many many times.
ReplyDeleteAnd as we said on each and everyone of those occasions, all you ever do is tell us how much you criticize the right.
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We never actually see you doing it.
We could care less what nonsense you posted on that fake blog you set up to try and fool people into believing you were a liberal moderate.
ReplyDeleteIt's what you say in HERE that counts.
Hey Will about you "criticzing" the Right...........like Bart said your ALWAYS talking about it.........but almost never ACTUALLY doing it!
ReplyDeleteLets take a look at what you ACTUALLY said rather than what you "CLAIM" you do or say.
Blogger Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteOh, you want somebody more recent? I vote for Sean Hannity then. And, Biden, Bart, he graduated 76th out of 85 at a tier-3 law school. I'm not sure that I would necessarily call him an intellectual powerhouse, either."
As we can CLEARLY see by your words, you DIDNT criticize Hannity at all.........you merely mentioned his name while sliming Joe Biden and insulting his intelligence in typical snotty Right Wing derogatory manner..............your words dont lie Will........YOU DO though!
Your words paint a very clear picture of what your all about.
So as for your CLAIM of criticizing the Right Wing.......or more specifcally Sean Hannity...........we can see you didnt criticize or insult Hannity at all.......while in the very same paragraph you insulted and attacked Joe Biden peronally.
ReplyDeleteYour own words betray your CLAIMS Will louder and clearer than anyone else ever could.
Mike said...
ReplyDeleteHey Will about you "criticzing" the Right...........like Bart said your ALWAYS talking about it.........but almost never ACTUALLY doing it!
Really it's never. And I say that because when he does pretend to criticize the right on anything, he ALWAYS "qualifies" his criticism by putting the liberals in the same category of whatever he's condemning on the right.
Like his supposed criticism of Sean Hannity that he's been bragging about for days now. He qualified it by putting Keith Olberman in the same light.
He attacks Fox but then qualifies it with bashing MSNBC or CNN.
He never actually just attacks the right without dragging the left into it too.
Which is no real criticism at all.
He's so obvious honestly
He's so obvious that honestly I don't know how anyone could be fooled by him.
ReplyDeleteMike said...
ReplyDeleteSo as for your CLAIM of criticizing the Right Wing.......or more specifcally Sean Hannity...........we can see you didnt criticize or insult Hannity at all.......while in the very same paragraph you insulted and attacked Joe Biden peronally.
That's right. He really didn't criticize Hannity. He said one little thing about Hannity and then qualified it by saying Olberman was just about as bad.
And then he brags for days how he "attacked Hannity".
Then he turns around and BASHES Olberman, I mean tears him apart, with GLEE even. Bashing him far worse than anything he said about Hannity.
Then he BASHES the President and the Vice President over NOTHING!!!
And I do mean NOTHING!
The President made a misspeak about the number of states, something he obviously knows being a Harvard graduate and Editor of the Harvard Law review, but Will accuses him of being stupid, gleefully mocking him over this one tiny misspeak.
Something only a neocon would do.
And he bashes Biden for a little misspeak when he didn't notice the guy was in a wheelchair or it slipped his mind, so that was a reason for Will to mock and lambaste Biden.
Over nothing.
Only a neocon troll would attack the President and Vice President like that over those two little gaffs.
No moderate ever would.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, guys, we still have Joe Biden to laugh at. "Stand up and take a bow", he says to the guy confined to a wheelchair. LOL Even Obama. He thinks we have 57 states, for Christ!!!
All anyone has to do to confirm Will is a neocon troll, is read this.
Bart He ONLY compared Hannity to Olberman AFTER I called him on his NOT criticizing Hannity at all while sliming Joe Biden 's intellgence in the same paragraph......he was trying to cover his tracks when he compared Olberman to Hannity.
ReplyDeleteHeres what Will ACTUALLY Said"
ReplyDeleteBlogger Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
Oh, you want somebody more recent? I vote for Sean Hannity then. And, Biden, Bart, he graduated 76th out of 85 at a tier-3 law school. I'm not sure that I would necessarily call him an intellectual powerhouse, either."
There was No criticism of Hannity whatsoever while Biden was clearly slimed and attacked personally............then only after I called Will on this did he qualify his forced criticism of Hannity by comparing him to Olberman.......right before going of on a tirade on Olberman while not saying much of anything about Hannity.
ReplyDeleteTHATS WILLS FAIR AND BALANCED DOG AND PONY SHOW!
Dog and Pony show is right.
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing is he still thinks he's fooling someone.
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing is he still thinks he's fooling someone.,
ReplyDeleteHe is actually;
He is fooling himself as usual.
Good point.
ReplyDeleteYou guys said that Olbermann DOESN'T lie. I gave you indesputable evidence that he does and, NO, Bart, you DIDN'T address THOSE points AT ALL. Mike, you asked my opinion of Hannity and I gave it to you. You've read my blog and you should know that I basically can't stand the guy but, no, you automatically join at the hip with Bartlebee. Way to show some integrity, buddy.
ReplyDeleteBartlebee, you're a liar (or a stupid idiot, I'm not quite sure on this one). I have NEVER, EVER, negatively criticized CNN. And I challenge you to find one instance where I did. I have consistently said that CNN is BY FAR the best of the 3 cable news channels. And, yes, I've also said that Fox AND MSNBC are both disgraceful. The fact that you guys find that to be a controversial statement only shows how partisan you are.
ReplyDeleteWill "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteMike, you asked my opinion of Hannity and I gave it to you."
Thats ANOTHER LIE Will...........I never asked your opinion of Hannity..........What I did do was STATE A FACT........that you NEVER criticized Hannity you merely mentioned his name in the same paragrapgh were you slimed and attacked Joe Biden.
Your words and mine are there for EVERYONE to see and they speak for themselves loud and clear Will.
Keith Olbermann is smarter than Sean Hannity. And, yes, his humor is often more sophisticated. I even conceded that maybe he doesn't lie quite as much as Sean. But, yes, he can absolutely be a liar. And, yes, he can be disgustingly partisan, too. Again, not a controversial opinion. Not to sane people anyway.
ReplyDeleteBlogger Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDelete""You guys said that Olbermann DOESN'T lie. I gave you indesputable evidence that he does and, NO, Bart, you DIDN'T address THOSE points AT ALL."
I think your BS is easily refuted Willy............there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between lying and making a mistake............If Olberman does make a mistake he issues a retraction and sets the record straight, i've seen him do this several times.........Unlike Hannity who is a lying Right Wing shill who spews dishonest propaganda for the Right with no regard for the facts.
Lets do a little comparison Will and see how many facts BOTH got wrong and then how many times Olberman issued a retraction VS Hannity doing the same........i'm willing to bet the numbers will speak for themselves on who is a fact based journalist and who is a lying political hack just like your words in here do.
So, pointing out a gaffe by a politician is sliming and attacking them? Wow, so you're going to have to admit that you've been sliming and attacking Sarah Palin like a madman, huh? You guys said that now that Palin is gone there'll be nobody to laugh at anymore. I was trying to point out that there will in fact plenty of people to laugh at. And, yes, Mike, some of those people might even be Democrats. 57 states. I mean, come on, can you even begin to fathom the smack-talk on Palin if SHE had said something that stupid? You guys would have been falling all over yourselves.
ReplyDeleteOlbermann has NEVER retracted and/or apologized for these statements - EVER!
ReplyDeleteSo, is Bartlebee going to correct HIS mistake, saying that I've slimed CNN? Somehow, I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteYep Will I have slimed Palin.........I dont think she's a serious person or a capable competent leader and I have slimed and mocked her.......I can admit it.
ReplyDeleteBTW you sound Angry.........you need to chill out!
Again, Mike, 12 months of criticizing Fox News BEFORE I EVER MET YOU GUYS. You still have no good counter for that, do you? As for Olbermann, the fellow started off O.K., but now he is absoluely shameless. The man is literally obsessed with Palin and, I'm telling you, it's starting to get really creepy. Outrage fatigue, Mike, you don't ever get that? Ever?
ReplyDeleteI don't think that Palin is a serious candidate, either. What do you say we end it on that nice moment of agreement?
ReplyDeleteThat's all the concern troll wants.
ReplyDeleteTo make people think he said something reasonable.
Anyone dumb enough to believe Will is anything more than an obsessed lunatic who set up a blog to fool liberals and progressives into thinking he was one also, has my sympathy.
12 months
ReplyDeleteHe posts several lines bashing anyone criticizing Palin, and he posts one line saying he doesn't "think that Palin is a serious candidate, either".
ReplyDeleteSee what he does there?
He mocks Keith Olberman for talking about Palin, even though the only time he talks about her is when SHE holds NEWS CONFERENCES!!!
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The right wing trolls in every blog are selling this "you're obsessed with Palin" talking point.
Now we see Will also selling it.
Ignoring the fact that it was PALIN who came out and called the News Conference where she QUIT AS GOVERNOR.
And according to Will, Olbermans "obsessed" with her.
For talking about her while everyone else is too.
How many times has Worfy threw a tantrum and declared he was leaving baby dolls blog. Worfy is ever as much a quitter as Palin is. Bide your time Worfy will get mad and quit again.
ReplyDeleteWow, how many times will this anonymous coward crawl in under an anonymous handle to toss juvenile insults from behind his secret cubbyhole?
ReplyDeleteThe little pussy.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteAgain, Mike, 12 months of criticizing Fox News BEFORE I EVER MET YOU GUYS. You still have no good counter for that, do you?
Sure we do, asswipe.
Your fake blog doesn't count.
It's what you say in here troll, that counts.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteSo, pointing out a gaffe by a politician is sliming and attacking them? Wow, so you're going to have to admit that you've been sliming and attacking Sarah Palin like a madman, huh? You guys said that now that Palin is gone there'll be nobody to laugh at anymore. I was trying to point out that there will in fact plenty of people to laugh at. And, yes, Mike, some of those people might even be Democrats. 57 states. I mean, come on, can you even begin to fathom the smack-talk on Palin if SHE had said something that stupid? You guys would have been falling all over yourselves.
See?
All will does is bash the left, and defend the extreme far right.
The Neoconservative right is currently out in force in left wing blogs, selling the following talking point.
ReplyDelete1. ANYONE TALKING ABOUT SARAH PALIN IS OBSESSED WITH HER
This is the talking point currently being pushed right now in liberal blogs by the right wing.
They ignore the fact that it was Sarah Palin who put Sarah Palin in the news last week. They ignore the fact she just called a crazy press conference where she announced she was quitting her job.
Instead they just push the talking point that "any liberal talking about her is obsessed with her".
And here we see, will, likewise calling Keith Olberman, "obsessed" with her.
Even though SHE called a wacky press conference out of the blue, in which she resigned as Governor.
Even though EVERYONES talking about this dramatic development in a recent vice Presidential candidate and front runner in the RNC.
Even with ALL THAT, Will says he's "Obsessed with her".
Parroting the current talking point response to the Palin incident by the neocon right.
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If anyones fooled by will, they really have my sympathy.
Go into any left wing blog right now where Palin is the topic, and you'll see Willies counterpart trolls, telling anyone talking about her that they are "obsessed with her".
ReplyDeleteThe word "obsessed" was handed down to the bootlickers by the powers that be (Rove and company) and all the little drones are out chanting it in unison.
Just like we see will, chanting it along with them.
Because he is one of them.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteBartlebee, you're a liar (or a stupid idiot, I'm not quite sure on this one). I have NEVER, EVER, negatively criticized CNN. And I challenge you to find one instance where I did. I have consistently said that CNN is BY FAR the best of the 3 cable news channels. And, yes, I've also said that Fox AND MSNBC are both disgraceful. The fact that you guys find that to be a controversial statement only shows how partisan you are.
My point was you brought Fox up to the level of other news channels.
Whether it was CNN, MSNBC, NBC, is irrelevant. If it wasn't CNN but MSNBC, then fine. The point was you put Fox on the same status of regular news channels.
MSNBC is a real news channel and the daytime news is just regular news. Fox however shows partisan biased news during the day and presents it as real news.
MSNBC does do the editorial shows, like Hardball, Olberman etc, but it's mixed. For a long time Joe Scarborough was on MSNBC. Matthews is clearly a centrist, or at least used to be. In fact he was a Bush supporter for years, and his editorial show leaned that way heavily. So even the editorials aren't even remotely like Fox's, except Olberman and Maddow are both openly liberal. But at the end of the day these are editorial and opinion shows not presented as news.
MSNBC shows regular news during the day while Fox shows right wing propaganda and calls it news.
Only a neocon would liken MSNBC to Fox Fake News.
Worfy is almost ready to do a Palin or did Palin do a Worfy when she quit.
ReplyDeleteWhile your daytime assessment of MSNBC is spot on..........I dont think I can agree with calling Olberman and Madow "opinion" shows.........while they clearly have a liberal bias, They also clearly present facts and the truth unlike Fox which is ONLY Right Wing propaganda and partisan opion with little to no facts.
ReplyDeleteIt has always been kinda creepy how all the repug drones get their talking points handed down and they all just mindlessly repeat the same BS like a bunch of trained parrots.
ReplyDeleteSo, Bart your lies/mistakes are immaterial, huh? How convenient. Olbermann piles on Palin no matter what she does. He crapped on her before, during, and after the press conference. He craps on her virtually every show. On this very blog (you blind, dishonest bastard), I said that that I didn't think that Palin had the gravitas to run for president. Volt challenged me. Idiot.
ReplyDeleteOlbermann doesn't even allow alternative views on his show. I mean, seriously, how can anybody defend THAT?
ReplyDeleteFor 12 months, I made believe that I was a moderate so I could someday play a trick on a bunch of liberals that I didn't know existed. This is what Bartlebee is saying. I mean, I don't know about you folks, but I consider that to be one of the most paranoid and idiotic opinions in the history of blogging.
ReplyDeleteOnly a neocon would compare Fox News and MSNBC. That is false, completely. David Zurawik (the man who Olbermann slandered) isn't a neocon and neither am I. I have always opposed foreign adventurism, pre-emptive wars, and nation-building completely. You're an idiot and beyond the pale wrong here, bro.
ReplyDeleteI made believe that I was a moderate
ReplyDeleteBullshit;
you CLAIMED to be a liberal on Media matters to try to drum up somebody to read your waste of bandwitdth,
LIE again widdle will.
BTW on the pink pajama romper room of gutless cowards you claimed to be a Eisenhower style Republican't.
So LIE some more son it is all you really do.
I love it. Gaffes are "nothing" when a Democrat makes them. But when a Republican makes them, they constitute everything from stupidity to dementia. You guys are really something special, you know that? Hey, did you know that Obama thinks that Austrian is an actual language? Seriously.
ReplyDeleteHey will I know your a skinny pathetic coward who trolls for attention.
ReplyDeleteSo GFY
Your whining for somebody to come to your waste of bandwidth is still in their files for all to see how pathetically you seek attention.
ReplyDeleteYou dishonest bastard, Clif. I said that I was an Eisenhower Republican/Sam Nunn Democrat, a moderate, in other words. And what I said on Media Matters was totally consistent with what I had been saying on my blog. So, screw you, disability boy.
ReplyDeleteSucks to get caught LYING eh foole.
ReplyDeleteNo wonder why you seem so angry all the time,
you LIE get caught at it then wanna lie denying it.
do you need attention THAT bad,
have you no life outside the tubes?
Well, Clif, when people write a blog, they frequently try and get others to read it. I would hardly call that pathology on a par with a guy who got kicked out of the military for being a complete and total ass-hole.
ReplyDeleteSucks to try to be what ever you think one wants to whom ever will listen to your word salads eh boy?
ReplyDeleteSorry but my medical disability doesn't say tha, LIAR.
ReplyDeleteYou get SOOOO angry when you are outed for the attention seeking shallow sycophant you really are.
ReplyDeleteYes, Clif, I have a life. I have a job. I have a career. And I'm not frequently seen with a computer growing out of my chest. YOU are the loser, dude.
ReplyDeleteSorry but you seem to place so much stock in your dementia you show here and the total inconsistencies you have exhibited over time, I'm gonna have to say you are deluded seriously, almost pathologically deluded.
ReplyDeleteYou distorting bastard. Why did you leave the Samm Nunn part of the quote out? You just can't make a point without lying through you teeth, can you?
ReplyDeleteSorry but YOU claimed to be a liberal, then a moderate Eisenhower repubie, (all the while spouting the reich-wing RNC daily talking points as both Worf and Mike have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt), that is inconsistent foole
ReplyDeleteRant away son, but your transparent to us.
Eisenhower was liberal Republican, Clif, and if he was alive today he probably wouldn't be a Republican at all. As for consistency, that is definitely NOT your probelem, Clif. I mean, you've probably never changed an opinion in your life, have you?
ReplyDeleteWhiny boy
ReplyDeleteEisenhower was a sup[posed liberal who allowed the radical right to dominate his Administration just like bush allowed the PNAC Neo-cons do his.
ReplyDeletehis supposed great military industrial speech came when he could do NOTHING about it, which is what he really did nothing but allowed the radical right fringe f&*k up American foreign policy for decades.
For 12 months, I was slightly to the left of center. Now I'm smack dab in the middle. You, on the other hand, Clif, are about as far to the left as a person can get. Ergo, anything by comparison is right-wing. And you're a liar, too, bro. I do just as many posts on my blog critical of the right as I do the left. You just can't count, idiot. And nuance escapes you completely. THAT is probably your biggest problem. Go back to your doghouse, Clif. I'm out of here. Stock-phrase away, loser.
ReplyDeleteBYE-BYE pansy boy
ReplyDeleteIs this one for good again?
ReplyDeleteBlogger Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteI love it. Gaffes are "nothing" when a Democrat makes them. But when a Republican makes them, they constitute everything from stupidity to dementia. You guys are really something special, you know that? Hey, did you know that Obama thinks that Austrian is an actual language? Seriously."
Your really not capable of seeing the difference between intelligent people who make a few gaffes or mistakes now and then like Obama and Biden and a bunch of incompetent morons like Palin,GWB, McCain........who are non stop gaffes and NOTHNG ELSE.
A "gotcha" question for Palin was what newspaper do you read.........those morons are fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Obama and Biden..........yet you FELL THE NEED to reduce them to the level of GWB, Sarah Palin and Ann Coulter......WHY IS THAT WILL?
Eisenhower kept our troops out of harm's way. This, as opposed to Johnson (Gulf of Tonkin), who was responsible for 31,000 U.S. deaths. L.B.J. and McNamara, the real radical right.
ReplyDeleteYo numbnuts IF Eisenhower hadn't allowed the Dulles brothers to ILLEGALLY prevent democracy in Vietnam that war wouldn't have happened nor if he hadn't allowed the dulles brothers to destroy democracy in Iran we wouldn't have had the mess we have had there in the middle east since 1979, cause Reagan enabling of Saddam was a response to the Iranian revolution of 1979.
ReplyDeleteDamn are you as thick as you are pathetic.
Austrian is a language, Mike? And how 'bout that moronic joke that Obama made about the Special Olumpics? I'm telling you, Mike. This guy does make a lot of mistakes. And Biden. He is not a highly intelligent man. I'm sorry.
ReplyDeleteSee stupid Iran was a modern democracy in the early 1950's until the dulles brothers destroyed it.
ReplyDelete.He is not a highly intelligent man.,
ReplyDeleteThat makes YOU a world class MORON by comparison son.
L.B.J. DID NOT have to either lie about the Gulf of Tonkin or escalate our involvement. As you yourself have stated, Kennedy was on the verge of DE-ESCALTING the conflict over there. Face it, L.B.J. screwed up big time. As for Iran, I have stated many times that that was a huge mistake. P.S. It was actually Truman's support of the French that started our involvemet in that section of the world. Eisenhower inherited THAT.
ReplyDeleteEisenhower inherited THAT.
ReplyDeleteBullshit,
THAT ended in 1954 at Dien Ben Phu, the French LEFT,
THAT was over numbnuts.
then Eisenhower allowed the Dulles brothers to ILLEGALLY interfere in the internal affairs of Vietnam;
plain and simple he F*&KED UP.
Try lying about history again son.
ReplyDeleteThe 1954-1956 period was when ELECTIONS were supposed to be set up, but since the hand picked candidate of the radical right wasn't gonna win, they violated the UN charter to deny the Vietnamese people the right to determine their OWN future.
ReplyDeletethat is historical fact.
Like the radical right destroyed a democracy in Iran in 1954 when they didn't l;ike the person the Iranians chose;
ReplyDeletejust like they destroyed a democracy in Chile in 1973 when Nixon (Eisenhower's VP BTW) and Kissinger didn't like the Chilean people's choice for their leadership.
Or how much money and blood Reagan wasted in Nicaragua to destroy the choice of thee Nicaraguan people
ReplyDeletereich-wingers seem to do this every time they get power.
like Bush did to Aristede, or Reagan's pet Saddam.
Not to mention how Bush attacked the Palestinian people's choice when he didn't like it.
Why are repubies so ANTI-DEMOCRACY?
ReplyDeleteWill "straw dog" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteAnd you're a liar, too, bro. I do just as many posts on my blog critical of the right as I do the left. You just can't count, idiot.
No, your blog doesn't count, idiot.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteAustrian is a language, Mike?
Yea, it's called Osterreichisches Deutsch, or Austrian German, and is outlined in the Austrian dictionary.
You know Austria, right? It's where your hero was from.
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Not Arnold, the other one.
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ReplyDeleteDummkopf.
You've consistently lied about this topic, Clif. You went around stating that the Dulles brothers blocked the elections. They didn't. Diem did. Our choice was to try and work with him or throw suppport to the Soviet-backed ass-hole up north. What Ike chose what what literally any other mainstream politician of the day would have chosen. It was the same policy that J.F.K. initially chose and broadened upon (military advisors, Clif). And even if Ike hadn't made the choice that he did, and hostilities ultimately erupted (as they most assuradley would have), there is no guarantee that a subsequent president (Kennedy, L.B.J., Nixon) wouldn't have intervened. Fareed Zakaria greatly admires Eisenhower. Barack Obama greatly admires him, too. It seems like your the only one who can't see beyond the R in front of his name.
ReplyDeleteIt seems as if Obama may have an anti-Democratic streak, too. During one of his interviews, he criticized Bush for having even allowed the Palestinian elections. Obama apparently realizes that Democracy, without the necessary underlying institutions, can often produce crappy results. Hamas, Clif, they are one of the most vile organizations on the planet.
ReplyDeleteObama didn't say Austrian-German, Bart. He said Austrian. Hitler? Are you saying that Hitler's my hero. Wow, what a shameless piece of garbage you are.
ReplyDeleteMy blog does count, Bart. It's where I put the vast majority of my posts. I come here only to see what the true-believers are saying. And to be amused, too, of course. By the way, where's MCH? Where's Jim? Where's Frank Frey? It seems that whenever you show up, they disappear. Hell, even Lydia doesn't post when you're here, Mr. Charming.
ReplyDeletePutin gave Obie an hour and
ReplyDeletea half history today...Obie sat
and listened like a little boy.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteObama didn't say Austrian-German, Bart. He said Austrian. Hitler? Are you saying that Hitler's my hero. Wow, what a shameless piece of garbage you are.
lol, people don't call it "Austrian German" they just call it Austrian for short.
What's shameless is your determination to trash the president over some sort of tiny misspeak, grasping at anything you can to trash his intelligence.
You cling to that 57 states exactly as the neocons are doing in their blogs, or the neocon trolls are doing in ours.
No one that supported the President would repeatedly cling to that one tiny misspeak he made a while ago, and lambaste him on it.
Only a neocon troll would do that.
And you are a neocon troll.
You're just too much the punk to own up to it.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteMy blog does count, Bart. It's where I put the vast majority of my posts. I come here only to see what the true-believers are saying. And to be amused, too, of course.
You mean the fake blog with no commenter's that you set up to try and sucker people into thinking you're a liberal moderate?
:)
No, it doesn't count.
What you say in here counts.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteI come here only to see what the true-believers are saying. And to be amused, too, of course.
Funny. That's exactly what the neocon trolls who frequent this blog say.
In fact, that's exactly what cRusty says.
To call us "true believers" because we try and support the President only further shows people what you really are.
Will "neocon concern troll" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteBy the way, where's MCH? Where's Jim? Where's Frank Frey? It seems that whenever you show up, they disappear. Hell, even Lydia doesn't post when you're here, Mr. Charming.
Another lie that's so laughable, it can be disproved in the very thread its posted in.
Scroll up troll.
Lydia responded to me and JR earlier in the thread. And she's come in through the last thread that I was in. So did Frank.
Why do I have to tell you this though?
Only someone like cRusty would lie so brazenly as to do it in the very thread that instantly proves him wrong.
You went around stating that the Dulles brothers blocked the elections. They didn't. Diem did..
ReplyDeleteYou ignorant foole, Diem was the puppet of the Dulles brothers thru Col. Edward Landsdale, the CIA handler Alan Dulles sent to south Vietnam. It is like how Bush used Iraqi puppets to set up an interm government while Bremer really ran the show.
Our choice was to try and work with him or throw suppport to the Soviet-backed ass-hole up north.
Wrong again sparky, they could have STAYED out and allowed the Vietnamese to fix their own problems, why can't you acknowledge this was the ONLY correct path, which wouldn't have ended up with MILLIONS of dead people.
What Ike chose what what literally any other mainstream politician of the day would have chosen.
Wrong again sparky, he could have chosen the correct path, stay out of internal affairs and allow democracy to work, instead reich-wing radical repubies interfere and end up screwing up for decades like they ALWAYS do.
It was the same policy that J.F.K. initially chose and broadened upon (military advisors, Clif).
The lies they told him originally?
The lies kennedy saw thru AFTER the lies about the CIA planned coup in Cuba failed,
Kennedy was withdrawing from Vietnam in 1963, so when he realized ALAN DULLES (head of CIA)who was still the crack pot reich wing radical he had always been, Kennedy fired Dulles and changed course.
You mean like And even if Ike hadn't made the choice that he did, and hostilities ultimately erupted (as they most assuradley would have),
You have absolutely NO proof of that skippy, there your inner reich wing is showing again,
You claim something you can not ever know as inevitable to justify a fascist imperialist move by Eisenhower, and the Dulles brothers which lead to a two decade fiasco.
Why would violence erupt if 90% of the Vietnamese people wanted Ho to win the elections that were slated for 1956 the Dulles brothers BLOCKED thru Edward Landsdale guiding their puppet Diem.
You make assertions with NO factual proof but want everyone to accept it as gospel, sorta like the way bush ET Al did in the run up to the illegal Iraq invasion, and YOU wonder why we say you are another reich-wing stooge?
there is no guarantee that a subsequent president (Kennedy, L.B.J., Nixon)wouldn't have intervened.
ReplyDeleteYOU ignorant Moron, how would yhye intervene if there is NO insurrection cause Ho won so NO revolt against the Dulles brothers puppet in the south?
More projection of your historical fantasy so you can maintain Eisenhower didn't screw the pooch in Vietnam.
there would have not been a reason for hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese to organize into the Viet Cong to revolt if diem had lost and gone away, but you claim if they had gotten what they wanted violence would have still broken out,
Up the meds son.
Fareed Zakaria greatly admires Eisenhower.
Well since he supported Ronald Reagan in the 1980's and Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq, that makes sense.
Hell the bozo claims the "surge" worked instead of admitting Petraeus bribed the Sunnis to stop fighting. (which is what really stopped the attacks if the Sunnis)
Barack Obama greatly admires him, too.
Got a link to show Obama admires eiosenhower's illegal interference in Vietnam?
Or is this just more of your anal cavity facts you spout here often?
It seems like your the only one who can't see beyond the R in front of his name.
sorry son that is your straw man argument, the origin of this was the claim that Johnson and Kennedy started Vietnam where the intrusion into Vietnamese internal affairs started under Eisenhower when the colonial power France was defeated cause the radical reich-wing Dulles brothers wanted to replace France as the Imperial power pulling the strings, and Eisenhower allowed them to. Which means he agreed undercutting democracy and the right for the people of Vietnam to choose their own future. He seemed to forget that that never worked in Europe in the first half of the 1940's, given the French, Dutch, Yugoslav, ET AL resistance to German domination.
Seems you can't deal with the truth can ya son?
didn't think so................
Paris Michael Jackson sobbed as she spoke about her father.
ReplyDeleteWatch the video clip I just put up of the ending.
Jermaine Jackson blew me away. What an amazing, loving soul.
I remember him from when Anson Williams and I hosted Dick Clark's Rockin' Eve.
Jermaine has a beautiful voice.
I really adored Michael Jackson. He is okay now.
I blinked and my kids were in puberty. I was too busy for a few minutes and they went from being sweet 10 and 11 year olds to obnoxious jerks!! I wish I had savored the sweet phase a little longer.
ReplyDeleteTry as you might, it gets away from you so fast. So fast.
I've been at home with my 5 year old almost every single day since she was about 1. She lived with me when I stayed with Mom during her final months. And now, she's a few weeks from school.
Yesterday, I was changing her diapers, and listening to her laugh, since she couldn't talk.
It might also interest the right wing dullard morons to know that Ho wasn't anybody's puppet. Far from it; Ho was a Vietnamese nationalist, first and foremost.
ReplyDeleteOur involvement in Vietnam stemmed from a Japanese action, in spite of what the brainwashed Rushpublican contingent may believe. We were miffed at what was called the "coup de force" of 1945. I will not bother to explain it; the wingers can find someone to read it to them.
Yes, Bartlebee, I set up a moderate/liberal blog, posted on it for 12 months, just so I could play a trick on people who I didn't even know existed. That makes a lot of sense.
ReplyDeleteOf course, there would have been an insurrection, ass-hole. There were hundreds of thousands of people who hated Ho Chi Minh and WOULD NOT have succumbed to his brutal treatment. The frigging ass-hole killed thousands of people simply for the horrid crime of owning private property. And if Eisenhower's decision was so bad, why did Kennedy follow through on it for 3 years, widening the conflict with military "advisors", helping to institute that moronic strategic hamlet strategy? And L.B.J. absolutely DID NOT have to fabricate the Gulf of Tonkin. He could have changed course AT ANY TIME!!!! He was the ass-hole who caused 31,000 American soldiers to die. Why, Clif, do you continue to make apologies for this criminal? Because of the D?
ReplyDeleteAnd what about my point about Obama criticizing (correctly, one might argue) Bush's decision to allow those elections in Gaza? Am I to asume, because of your lack of mentioning it, that you you agree with Obama on this one?
ReplyDeleteI didn't mention J.R., Bart. I mentioned MCH, Jim, and Frank Frey. And, no, I haven't seen their names near as much as I used to. Can't rightly blame them, in that you totally treated them ALL like crap. Especially MCH. That poor guy doesn't have a mean bone in his body and how did you treat him? Abominably.
ReplyDeleteOf course, there would have been an insurrection, ass-hole. There were hundreds of thousands of people who hated Ho Chi Minh and WOULD NOT have succumbed to his brutal treatment. The frigging ass-hole killed thousands of people simply for the horrid crime of owning private property.
ReplyDeleteNot exactly. But you go right on repeating those happy right wing lies, Mr. "independent."
The Hmong would have been the biggest problem. Our own CIA knew Ho was going to have no trouble winning in a nationwide election, which is why there never was one. UN mandate? Noooooooo....
Fareed Zakaria did initially support the Iraq War (unlike me, who opposed it from day one). But so did Biden, Hillary, Dodd, etc.. Well, at least they say that they did. I personally think that they voted for it strictly to secure political cover - you know, being that they voted against the first Iraq War and all.
ReplyDeleteWill "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteYes, Bartlebee, I set up a moderate/liberal blog, posted on it for 12 months
We know.
Remember the other day, when Caribou Barbie threatened to sue everyone in sight?
ReplyDeleteMaybe she ain't kidding...
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteI didn't mention J.R., Bart. I mentioned MCH, Jim, and Frank Frey. And, no, I haven't seen their names near as much as I used to
Well I don't know who Jim is so I doubt his absence has anything to do with me. But I've seen Frank in, and you lied about Lydia, who just responded to JR and myself earlier in the thread, and has commented as she normally does.
What we're seeing here is a desperate troll grasping at anything random out of the blue that he can come up with in the way of personal attacks to try and badger me with.
Unfortunately you were proven wrong right out of the gate.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteYes, Bartlebee, I set up a moderate/liberal blog, posted on it for 12 months, just so I could play a trick on people who I didn't even know existed.
Only you did know they existed, because you were here under another handle.
And it had nothing to do with "playing a trick" on people.
It had to do with setting up a liberal persona to use to water down liberal talking points and shore up your far right wing neocon ideology which is all we see you ever doing in here.
Me thinks widdle will is becoming a wee bit unhinged with his sorry attempt at discerning a history that never happened but HE KNOWS how it would have played out ..... either that or another failed date.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching the Al Franken vs Bill-O dust up at crooks and liars;
ReplyDeleteIt seems widdle will- la id-a-jet is actually channeling Bill-O now a days (all the anger and all the dishonesty included) unlike Colbert who parodies Bill-O la buffoon
After Franken exposes how much Bill-O LIED about his supposed "peabody", and then lied by saying he never said it,
ReplyDeleteBill-O comes back to say he mis-spoke,
reminds me of widdle will's weak-assed excuses for his lies and deceit here and elsewhere on the tubes.
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ReplyDeleteThis blog supports quitters like Palin so Worfy must feel right at home since he throws tantrums at blondie and quits.
ReplyDeleteThat is a bald-faced lie, Bartlebee. I have NEVER, EVER blogged here under another handle. This is just an ad hoc explanation to justify your idiotic claims. I mean, this is a brand new one for you.
ReplyDeleteOops, my ears were burning.
ReplyDeleteOk, to be honest, my attentions lately have been focused on other areas. Sometimes I just have to step away from politics to lessen my stress levels a bit. GofW's reappearance any my not being around is a sheer coincidence.
I appreciate the kind words and compliments Will. Obviously, we havent discussed it but I have a feeling Worf and I are falling back into one of those "leave me alone and I'll do likewise" bits ... which suits me fine.
Yes, Lydia posted early in the thread. She responded to you/your points by saying, "you guys". As for Jim, let me remind you about him. He's the guy who you kept saying was nothing but one of Lydia's sock-puppet. MCH, you don't want to talk about him, do you?
ReplyDeleteHi MCH. I meant it. You're good people. You've been very fair and gracious to me and that's a fact.
ReplyDeleteI got a couple of emails from Jim not long ago ... he's an odd one but I definitely mean that in a good way. I honestly would love to meet the guy.
ReplyDeleteI've always found you to be good people also, Will. We dont agree on everything but we do have our common ground ... as I have common ground with everybody in here. Shoot, for that matter I dont agree with Lydia on everything.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a Republican, J.R.. And I haven't voted Republican for president since George H.W. Bush in 1988. I almost voted for W in 2000 (as Mike apparently did, too) but changed my mind and voted for Nader. That's number 1. Number 2 is that I was totally against the Vietnam War. While, yes, I think it may have had some noble intent, it was an extremely unwise and wasteful undertaking. I just object vociferously to Clffy's assertion that Eisenhower was solely to blame for the tragedy. It's ridiculous. Truman started the Asian containment policy and Eisenhower, Kennedy, L.B.J. (the biggest liar of them all - "I will never send American boys to do the fighting that Asian boys....."), and Nixon followed. I mean, does Cliffy actually think that Truman (a staunch anti-Communist, as were Kennedy and Nixon) would have handled 1954 any differently. Hell, if anything, he would have been more provacative.
ReplyDeleteOn social issues and foreign policy, MCH, I bet that we agree almost completely. Fiscal matters, yes, I'm probably more of a blue dog. But, hey, that's why we developed the fine art of compromise, right? LOL
ReplyDeleteWorfy is a bonafide quitter and soon and very soon it will be tantrum time and quitting again.
ReplyDeleteI just object vociferously to Clffy's assertion that Eisenhower was solely to blame for the tragedy.
ReplyDeleteThat is another LIE you told,
I just said HE STARTED our illegal involvement in Vietnam not Kennedy or Johnson;
you for some reason can't accept it.
But it is the truth;
If Eisenhower hadn't allowed the Dulles Brothers thru the CIA agent Edward Landsdale and their puppet Deim to illegally involve the CIA in preventing a democracy and free elections, the entire foreign policy fiasco of the insurrection against diem and the dictatorial government in the south wouldn't have happened in the late 1950's so no WAR could have resulted in the 1960 based ion the insurrection of the Viet Cong against Diem and his successors
Sorry but Ike allowed the Dulles brothers to F*@K UP US foreign policy and we are still paying for it.
See widdle willy boy, your inner reich wing is a showin' again son.
ReplyDeleteYou went from started our illegal involvement to solely to blame
sorta the way reich wing trolls change what people actually say and construct straw man arguments based on their own deception, like YOU DID.
Your as shallow as you are transparent concern boy.
Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
ReplyDeleteYes, Lydia posted early in the thread. She responded to you/your points by saying, "you guys".
That's right.
And since there were only two guys making the point and in fact, the only two to have posted at that point, she responded to us.
You said Lydia didn't post when I was here. That's what you said.
Yet the first four comments showing Lydia not only posting when I'm here, but responding to a comment I and one other blogger made. Which means you lied.
Or can't read.
ReplyDeleteOr both.
ReplyDeleteI hide behind an anonymous handle because I don't want my regular identity associated with my hatred of worfy.
ReplyDeleteIt would damage the image I'm trying to present if people found out that I'm really an obsessed loon.
ReplyDeleteWould anyone like to get in a
ReplyDeletepool where you would guess the date
of worfy's next tearfull fairwell?
Or would anyone like to guess what happened to Larry?
ReplyDeleteOr how about who the anonymous sock puppet is?
ReplyDeleteOr why they feel the need to invent things that never occurred to try and badger me with?
ReplyDeleteI hide worfy because I can't let people know who I really am.
ReplyDeleteNew thread is up since last night.
ReplyDeletePlease comment on new thread about anything you want.
There is so much going on
Mainly the health care issue
but some Progressives are upset with Obama on reversing things, and on Afghanistan general
What is the truth?
Please feel free to leave comments on new blog thread.
thank you