I just want to share this photo of our sweet "uncle Lou" and me at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in August. Lou Tabat was the Constable of Las Vegas and boxing judge of the famed Muhammed Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard fights. Lou recently survived a heart attack in the middle of life-threatening lymphatic cancer surgery. Neither the doctors nor his wife Annie thought he would survive, even though many were praying for him. I focused on seeing him healed perfectly, the way Divine Mind, Truth and Love would see him — with perfect breathing, perfect lungs, a perfect heart. I focused only on the spiritual qualities that reflect God, or omnipotent good. This is the metaphysical way I have learned to pray. And the next day his breathing came back, his lungs were strong and he came back full force. Everyone was astounded at the miracle. God Bless you Aunt Annie and Uncle Lou -- two of Earth's angels!! _____________
FOCUS ON THE GOOD
Despite appearances, there is so much good going on in the world. This is the perfect time for all of us to get together and get rid of old ways of thinking, competing, reacting, building, creating energy and farming.
Shepherd Bliss - “Feeding people can be as patriotic as protecting people.”
The Farmer-Veteran Coalition http://www.farmvetco.org/ seeks to help our returning veterans find employment, training, and places to heal on America’s farms. At the same time the Coalition hopes that some of these young men and women may help address our country’s critical need for more good, hard-working people entering the field of agriculture.
The coalition is acutely aware of the high number of soldiers entering the military from our rural communities and the need to improve both job opportunities and veteran services in these areas. We believe that our family farms, the sustainable farming movement and growing support for local and regional agriculture could all be well served by people already accustomed to hard work, discipline and dedication. If given the opportunity, our returning veterans can benefit from and help to stimulate the growing green economy, even in these hard times.
Our goal is to start with an initial program focused in California, and move quickly into a national organization.
The organization will hold strictly to being politically neutral and take no position on the war.
Shepherd was the first speaker at the benefit dinner in Sebastopol. Drawing from his experience as a military veteran, small farmer, poet and psychologist, he talked about the “broken systems” of our country’s veterans affairs and farming industry. Having been working with veterans for many years, he understands the healing potential that comes with working with living plants in the fields. He knows the power that farming holds in the transition from warfare to civilian life.
Posted on on September 24th, 2008 in Land, Support, Transition, veterans
Nadia McCaffrey - “Let’s do this!”
Nadia McCaffrey is a Gold Star Mother: she lost her son in the Iraq War and is doing something about it. She founded Veterans Village to provide compassionate healing and living environments for returning veterans damaged by their war experience.
In these clips from her address - following her introduction by FVC’s Michael O’Gorman - she describes the expansion of Veterans Village to sites in Minnesota and New York, where land is avaiable for farming and gardening - important components for both the healing and livelihood of the communities.
Nadia sees a clear connection between Veterans Village and the agricultural training goals of the Farmer-Veteran Coalition. We hope to soon be helping vets become the competent farmers and gardeners that they can be.
Getting completely away from this world we live in might be the most therapeutic thing of all. I hope some of the vets brutalized by the Reign of Error can find some peace this way.
ReplyDeleteMilitary Times poll: Troops backing McCain
ReplyDeleteBy Brendan McGarry - Staff writer
Posted : Thursday Oct 9, 2008 5:44:48 EDT
"Sen. John McCain enjoys overwhelming support from the military’s professional core, a Military Times survey of nearly 4,300 readers, indicates, though career-oriented black service members strongly favored the Democratic Party candidate.
McCain, R-Ariz., handily defeated Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., 68 percent to 23 percent in a voluntary survey of 4,293 active-duty, National Guard and reserve subscribers and former subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times."
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_poll_100508w/
Looks like you guys are gonna have to find a way to get those thrown out like you did in 2000...
ReplyDeleteYou inbred idiot, we know from donations that Obama is taking in $6 for every $1 Johnny is getting from the military. You might fantasize that a "voluntary survey" run for subscribers to a few publications is representative of the military as a whole, but as always, you're talking out your ass.
ReplyDeleteDuncetron most enlisted do not read the military times .... let alone respond to their surveys.
ReplyDeleteCareerist enlisted NCO's and officers do. A much better guide is what Jolly Roger cites, who is getting the most dollars from the most number of military connected people, Obama wins that one hands down.
Damn you really don't know squat about how the military really works do ya gutless?
I'd tell ya tyo ask your draft dodgin' fellow traveler, but he probably don't remember much but the fear till he got accepted in ROTC instead of havin' to enlist and take his turn in Vietnam.
4300 readers out of 3,000,000+ active duty people people and 5,000,000+ retired veterans?
4300 out of well over 8,000,000 people?
Voluntary, self selected, who are willing to take the time to fill out a questionnaire and return it?
This is almost as laughable as the AOL online poll you cited earlier Bozo ......... you know the one where all the ancient geezers who STILL use AOL were polled.
BTW what happened to the great results the acorn attack by the GOP and Bush corrupted DOJ was gonna launch?
Oh right a GOPer who is involved in GOPer voter suppression efforts got busted.
I've read that McInsane is betting on Pennsylvania to win;
ReplyDeleteHere are the final Pennsylvania registration/voter numbers -
The Pennsylvania numbers statewide are as follows:
Democrats 4,465,551 (51.14%) Republicans 3,239,428 (37.10%) Other 1,026,682 (11.76%)
This represents a Democratic registration advantage of +1,226,123, the highest in Pennsylvania history.
The differential in percentage is +14.04%.
Among just active voters, the percentages are even better:
Democrats 4,060,647 (51.74%) Republicans 2,917,747 (37.18%) Other 869,707 (11.08%)
This represents a Democratic registration advantage of +1,142,900, another record for the Democrats in Pennsylvania.
The differential in percentage is +14.56%.
In the General Election of 2004, the differential was about 6.9%
Hope he really is betting on winning Pennsylvania after seeing numbers like that.
BTW duncetron those numbers do count.
McCain has cut and run from campaigning in Michigan, Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa, Wisconsin .....
ReplyDeleteIt seems the McCain camp is conceding defeat in every state Kerry won, except Pennsylvania, where they are still badly behind.
The numbers just don't look too good for the senile old grumpy guy, or the hack attack twit he chose at this point in time.
Looks like the long retreat to the US Senate and Wasilla has begin.
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Time is a runnin' out for the GOPers.
I notice when you present Dolty some real numbers, he goes real quiet.
ReplyDeleteLet's do something we never do, and quote Dolty here on all those new Democratic registrations:
Looks like you guys are gonna have to find a way to get those thrown out like you did in 2000...
I'll bet Dolty, Fascist Franny, Crusty, and the rest of the 'tard posse is longing for the days of the butterfly ballot...
What up with Joe Biden's 5 student deferrments (the same as pork chop boy) during the Vietnam War? And what about his magical diagnosis of Asthma as soon as he graduated law school (despite having been a lifeguard for years)? Hm, could it be that both sides have some embarrassing issues here? Apparently, yes.
ReplyDeleteWill go back to hating veterans on your self delusional waste of bandwidth.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the matta son nobody there any more?
BTW clueless;
Biden got his deferments for going to college STARTING in 1963 (Before they drafted people to serve in Vietnam.) in his sophomore year in college.
The only people fighting in Vietnam before 1965 were the special forces advisers son, all 17,000 of them.
Escalation of the Vietnam War officially started on the morning of January 31, 1965, in Bidens first year of law school but they really didn't start drafting people for service there until after the massive call up of 200,000 service personnel in Dec 1965, when Biden was already in law school.
Biden's deferments continued thru his going to law school in 1968.
In April 1968, he was reclassified by the Selective Service System as not available for service due to having had asthma as a teenager.
Can YOU prove he didn't have asthma?
People with asthma can play sports but the military refuses to allow them to serve for very good medical reasons.
I bet you can't but are throwing feces here cause nobody wants to waste their time on your delusions of grandeur in your waste of bandwidth.
In Nov 1968 he turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft
More importantly you delusional little turn-key, Joe Biden ain't a pro-war hate-mongering neo-con like the reich-wingers war criminals are.
He broke no laws then or now conducting an illegal immoral war.
Cheney, Rove and Bush all sought to avoid service after the call up started in 1968 but supported that War along with their illegal immoral wars of aggression.
Your argument is as usual ... lite on the relevant facts, but LONG on reich wing based accusations son.
Slither back to your pathetic echo chamber that NO ONE cares about enough to read or cooment on you Reich Wing Troll!
ReplyDeleteCheney's even older than Biden. Didn't stop the criticism of him. And Biden voted for the Iraq War (not out of conviction, no doubt, more to cover his ass). Back in the mid-1960s, people knew what was going down, where we were probably heading. Cheney knew. Apparently, so did Biden. Say hi to Nicholas.
ReplyDeleteSorry but Cheney supported the War Biden did not.
ReplyDeleteWhen Cheney became eligible for the draft, he was a supporter of the Vietnam War but did not serve in the military. Instead, he applied for and received five draft deferments.
Biden wasn't a chicken hawk, Cheney was.
I never said that Biden was as bad as Cheney.
ReplyDeleteI never said that Biden was as bad as Cheney.
ReplyDeleteNo numb-nuts you just posted this her and elsewhere trying to stir crap because NOBODY wants to waste time on your waste of bandwidth.
You LIE almost as well as the rest of the goose stepping reich-wingers YOU hang with son.
Have you guys heard that Biden received 5 student deferrments during the Vietnam war (the same as Cheney)? And then, after Law School, became magically diagnosed with asthma (despite having been a lifeguard for years). Look, I've been critical of Cheney on this account.
ReplyDeleteand Hm, could it be that both sides have some embarrassing issues here? Apparently, yes.
But you didn't mean anything by it, like you never expected your failed dates to actually work out did ya boy?
RIGHT.
What was my lie, Clif? He had 5 deferrments to get out of military service and no mention of asthma prior to his graduation. And, yes, according to Wikipedia, there WAS a consistent conscription from 1954 to 1975. Biden could have volunteered. He could have gone in the Coast Guard or something. But he, like Clinton, Bush, Dean, Quayle, etc., wanted to avoid what was brewing in Asia. I mean, I don't blame him but it doesn't look like strong leadership or candor. I don't know, I just kind of feel the need to remind you that the Democrats, while they in fact be the better choice at this time in our history, they are FAR from perfect. Biden is especially far from perfect. I mean, did you hear what he said about how the world is going to test this young president of ours? That cannot be helpful to Obama.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't sound like your dates are going all that great, either, Cliffy. Such a Johnny One-Noter, too. Say goodnight, Clif.
ReplyDeleteSorry son but you LIE so well now a days.
ReplyDeletethere WAS a consistent conscription from 1954 to 1975.
But STUPID not until the call up of 200,000 were any draftees sent to Vietnam, because the Special Forces like EOD is a totally VOLUNTEER branch.
You have to request it, they can't draft you into it, and until 1965 the regular draftees didn't appear in Vietnam but by them Biden was already IN law school, in fact idiot he went to college BEFORE he needed a deferment, he started college in 1961 but didn't need his first deferment until 1963 unlike the gutless chicken hawks you reichwingers love to follow so blindly all the time.
You must be so fun at your failed dates boy.
BTW numbnuts, Biden wasn't a gutless war monger wanting the war AND wanting somebody else to fight it for him like Freedum fraud, Cheney, Bush, Rove ET Al did.
ReplyDeleteLater loser.
ReplyDeleteOn Oct. 22, 1962, President John F. Kennedy announced an air and naval blockade of Cuba, following the discovery of Soviet missile bases on the island.
ReplyDeleteJohn McCain would have just started nuking the planet ......
St Sarah would have stood on Key West and said," I can't see Cuba from here so this isn't a problem".
apples and oranges. will, go the hell away.
ReplyDeleteDidn't John McCain say he wanted to base part of his campaign and administration on Teddy Roosevelt?
ReplyDelete"No man should receive a dollar unless that dollar has been fairly earned. Every dollar received should represent a dollar's worth of service rendered, not gambling in stocks, but service rendered. The really big fortune, the swollen fortune, by the mere fact of its size, acquires qualities which differentiate it in kind as well as in degree from what is possessed by men of relatively small means. Therefore, I believe in a graduated income tax on big fortunes, and in another tax which is far more easily collected and far more effective: a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes, properly safeguarded against evasion, and increasing rapidly in amount with the size of the estate."
THEODORE ROOSEVELT
The New Nationalism
August 31, 1910
Maybe Johnny should read that speech before allowing his minions to be throwing the socialist lie around, because if Teddy Roosevelt was around today Michelle Bachmann would want him investigated also, no matter what the truth was.
Looks like all beauty queens contestants aren't as dumb as sarah palin .......
ReplyDeleteWhen McCain senior adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer divided Virginia into the DC suburbs and "real Virginia," Kristi Lauren Glakas felt extremely disappointed. Glakas, a recent three-time Miss Virginia title holder and whip-smart University of Virginia scholarship honor student, said the comments were divisive.
"What offended me and made me sad about those comments," said Glakas, a resident for many years in northern Virginia, "is that I've been to every county, every part of this state. What's best about Virginia is its diversity. The people, the geography. We have every class, every race, an amazing immigrant population... Virginia is the birthplace of America. To say that part of Virginia is not part of the real America is just offensive."
Saying she was doing her level best to push back against the stereotypes set by other former pageant contestants Miss Teen South Carolina and Miss Alaska entrant sarah palin (formerly sarah heath), she pointed out that palin's hiding from the press was a giant turnoff and gave beauty queens a bad name.
BTW to Nancy Pfotenhauer;
Phukk Ewe
But it's not just "war mongers" and "chicken hawks", Clif, that you taunt about not having served. I was against the Gulf War from day one and I've always been for a judicious use of military force but, still, you hit me hard for not having served. Biden knew what he was doing back then. We weren't full-throated into Vietnam but the writing was on the wall. Oh, and one more thing. Biden, along with 26 other Democrats, voted to give George W. Bush a blank check (how 'bout some love for Lincoln Chaffee, the only Republican who voted no). I'm still a little ticked at him for that (though, yes, he did admit that it was a mistake).
ReplyDeleteYo turn-key, just crawl back into the sewer or the waste of band with you call a blog, you won't look so stoopid all the time.
ReplyDeleteYou have repeatedly slimed veterans especially ones you can personally attack, go GFY
My favorite Senator, Mary Landrieu, appears to be having a tough re-election campaign. See what you can do to help her, Clif, O.K.?
ReplyDeleteWill do, Clif.
ReplyDeleteWe weren't full-throated into Vietnam but the writing was on the wall.
ReplyDeleteWrong numbnuts, until he was assassinated John F Kennedy was ordering the army to withdraw troops from Vietnam stoopid.
The order for the first 1000 troops withdrawal was already signed, Lyndon Johnson had to counter man that order after he took office.
So when Joe Biden got his first deferment, according to the sitting president, Vietnam was winding DOWN ... idiot.
Damn are you an idiot.
My favorite Senator, Mary Landrieu, appears to be having a tough re-election campaign. See what you can do to help her, Clif, O.K.?
ReplyDeleteSorry numbnuts, I am currently helping to ditch mitch here in Kentucky.
But you could spend a few of your pennies to travel from Connecticut to Louisiana if you want, and help her if it is soooooo important to ya.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry is Will "the coward" hart dumb enough to make noises about someone else's lack of military service, when WILL never served a day?
ReplyDeleteTell us Will since you are FREE and SAFE, tell us how YOU kept from serving in the military.
Fella, your dumber than dumb
Even the Washington insider GOPers don't want her;
ReplyDeletePlug Pulled
We've confirmed with a Republican source that the House Republican campaign committee, the NRCC, has indeed pulled all its advertising for suddenly imperiled Rep. Michelle Bachmann.
Man when the reichwingers running the GOPer side of the House throw ya under the bus, you must have done somethin' real slimy bad.
Bet she wishes she had kept her BIG mouth shut, and hadn't tried to parrot the idiotic reich-wing attacks on Obama against the house membership across the isle ..... cause she ain't even as smart as sarah palin.
If ya are dumber then the caribou barbie is, your pretty damn dumb.
Please check out the new update on the blog about a prayer "miracle" with our Uncle Lou. I have to start sharing the truth of what I know instead of hiding behind politics and pretending to be a victim of all this economic fear and world chaos.
ReplyDeleteThere is a spiritual power that creates absolute miracles and we need to stop living in the dark and tap into it!
In the end the surge failed, because they dragged out the time line, but never got what they went after in the first place.
ReplyDeletegeorge w bush, the absolute worst president ever.
QED
Biden's last 2 deferrments were 11/66 and 1/68. I think that they're was some shit going down about then. AND THEN, in April of 68 (Biden was 25 then), came the magical diagnosis of asthma. If this was a Republican, Clif, you'd be breathing fire and you know it.
ReplyDeleteBiden's last 2 deferments were 11/66 and 1/68. (one r in deferment son)
ReplyDeleteYes turn-key, he was in LAW school. Which at the time the DOD allowed deferments for so Biden didn't break the law, BUT more importantly he didn't start college OR ROTC to avoid service in Vietnam because he started college in 1961 when Vietnam was JUST a Special Forces-CIA war.
It was the gutless chicken hawks like Cheney, Rove who HID in college to avoid service while they supported the war, or Dan Quayle, George W Bush and freedum fraud who went the ROTC/National Guard route to avoid serving in a war they supported so somebody else could take their place.
Biden was never a war monger like they were idiot.
I think that they're was some shit going down about then. AND THEN, in April of 68 (Biden was 25 then), came the magical diagnosis of asthma.
Sorry numb-nuts, BUT if a medical doctor has signed any evaluation or physical with Biden having asthma he had a requirement to tell the military about it, which is probably when he was declared ineligible for service because the military never takes people with asthma.
See stupid, until after he finished college he never had to tell them of his medical history because as long as he held an academic deferment he never got to the point to the army sending him to a physical for his fitness for service, BUT when he was no longer eligible, then he would have had to get such a physical to see if medically he was fit for service in the military.
I know YOU hate veterans and know NOTHING about how the service really works but the second two posts seem a little over board,
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Or are you really melting down because Obama is gonna win son?
I'd suggest a little relaxation like a date or something, but they never really work out do they?
Or is the idiocy you show here the reason THEY ALL END IN FAILURE?
Try learning FACTS son.
And find a few friends so you didn't have to run around the tubes after people you don't want on your waste of band width.
If duncetron and crusty weren't so depressed at the collapse of the Reaganesque fraud&criminal party I'd suggest talking to them, but those losers aren't gonna be much help fur ya son.
However if spewing your insane rambling and unintelligible finger pecking here helps I'm sure Lydia understands son.
Remember when Susan Eisenhower came out and said she was supporting Barack Obama,
ReplyDeleteWell this one hits John McCain closer to home;
Why McCain Has Lost Our Vote
Being Barry Goldwater's granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state's senator, John McCain. I am still struck by certain 'dyed in the wool' Republicans who are on the fence this election, as it seems like a no-brainer to me.
Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year. We believe strongly in what our grandfather stood for: honesty, integrity, and personal freedom, free from political maneuvering and fear tactics. I learned a lot about my grandfather while producing the documentary, Mr. Conservative Goldwater on Goldwater. Our generation of Goldwaters expects government to provide for constitutional protections. We reject the constant intrusion into our personal lives, along with other crucial policy issues of the McCain/Palin ticket.
My grandfather (Paka) would never suggest denying a woman's right to choose. My grandmother co-founded Planned Parenthood in Arizona in the 1930's, a cause my grandfather supported. I'm not sure about how he would feel about marriage rights based on same-sex orientation. I think he would feel that love and respect for ones privacy is what matters most and not the intolerance and poor judgment displayed by McCain over the years. Paka respected our civil liberties and passed on the message that that we should conduct our lives standing up for the basic freedoms we hold so dear.
For a while, there were several candidates who aligned themselves with the Goldwater version of Conservative thought. My grandfather had undying respect for the U.S. Constitution, and an understanding of its true meanings.
There always have been a glimmer of hope that someday, someone would "race through the gate" full steam in Goldwater style. Unfortunately, this hasn't happened, and the Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear. Nothing about McCain, except for maybe a uniform, compares to the same ideology of what Goldwater stood for as a politician. The McCain/Palin plan is to appear diverse and inclusive, using women and minorities to push an agenda that makes us all financially vulnerable, fearful, and less safe.
When you see the candidate's in political ads, you can't help but be reminded of the 1964 presidential campaign of Johnson/Goldwater, the 'origin of spin', that twists the truth and obscures what really matters. Nothing about the Republican ticket offers the hope America needs to regain it's standing in the world, that's why we're going to support Barack Obama. I think that Obama has shown his ability and integrity.
After the last eight years, there's a lot of clean up do. Roll up your sleeves, Senators Obama and Biden, and we Goldwaters will roll ours up with you.
Damn losing both the decedents of Eisenhower and Goldwater?
McCain/palin has set some kind of record.
Great posy Lydia, and nice pictures.
ReplyDeleteWell he’s officially no longer a “real” American;
ReplyDeleteFormer Bush press secretary backs Obama
Scott McClellan, President Bush’s former press secretary, says he is backing Barack Obama for president.
His book probably didn’t earn him a full fledged traitor to the country badge, but this will.
KKKarl just got caught channeling …
ReplyDeleteget this,
Barack Obama;
Damn if Obama can get the bush foreign policy establishment to follow his lead and even the turd blossum to quote him with out even realizing it, maybe the reich wing who claims to know a messiah when they see one might be on to somethin’ ….
LOL
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ReplyDeleteBiden's 1st deferrment, yes. But his last 4 deferrments were 11/64, 11/65/, 11/66, amd 1/68. I'm pretty sure that there was shit goin' down during those dates. And then in April of 68 came that convenient asthma diagnosis. Face it, Clif, if this was a Republican, you'd be hyperventilating big time.
ReplyDeleteBut his last 4 deferrments were 11/64, 11/65/, 11/66, amd 1/68. I'm pretty sure that there was shit goin' down during those dates.
ReplyDeleteYo, the stoopid turn-key,
Lyndon Johnson didn't send draftees until AFTER Dec 1965.
Google it idiot and you will see the large deployments of troops didn't start until Dec 1965;
On March 8, 1965, 3,500 United States Marines were dispatched to South Vietnam.
Which were sent to defend Air Force units providing air cover for the Vietnamese military.
Which BTW foole eliminates the 64 deferment totally.
The initial deployment of 3,500 in March was increased to nearly 200,000 by December
Which BTW foole eliminates the Nov 65 deferment totally, because the deployment of troops happened AFTER the deferment was approved..
So see MORON only the 66 and 68 deferments count, numbnuts, in your idiotic rantings.
Both are legal because he was already in college NOT because there was a war like Cheney and franny fraud, but because he was pursuing his degree from 1961.
But more importantly, Biden was NOT for the war stupid, so he couldn't be a chicken hawk son, like your heroes duncetron and crusty the big pussy.
It has little to do with republican and a hell of a lot to do with screeching for a war then asking somebody else to fight it.
Like Bush, Cheney, Rove, freedum fraud et all did.
Try another losing argument son, you'll look less pathetic then ya do now widdle will the chicken hart.
This is absolutely incredible. After Kennedy was assasinated, the whole country knew that we were heading in that direction. You keep changing the goal-posts. First you say the 1st deferrment didn't count because of Kennedy. Now you're excusing the others. ALL YOUNG MEN (in the 60s) WERE SCARED TO DEATH OF MAYBE HAVING TO GO TO VIETNAM. Even you point out that 3500 marines were dispatched in early 65. You don't think that Biden noticed that and was afraid of an escalation? Get real. What about you, Clif, did you go to Vietnam? Not old enough? I'm not a chicken, Clif. I was a corrections officer in the 80s and I've worked with juvenile delinquents with rap-sheets longer than your mental health records. If Biden was against the war, he should have filed for conscientious objector status.
ReplyDeleteIf Biden was against the war, he should have filed for conscientious objector status.
ReplyDeleteIdiot he didn't have to because the military allowed him to complete his studies, then take a physical which showed he has asthma as a teenager and was NOT physically fit for military service.....
I know that sticks in your little brain but foole when ever he took that physical his history of asthma would have disqualified him idiot.
BTW MORON when I was a senior in high school I signed up in the delayed entry program for a combat arms MOS before the North Vietnamese conquered the south.
I didn't hide in college to avoid any war, in fact I served before I went to college.
So turn-key go away because you have LOST this debate totally son.
Totally lost, like franny fraud lost the draft dodger debate, he hid in college in ROTC instead of signin' up and servin' full time.
Even you point out that 3500 marines were dispatched in early 65. You don't think that Biden noticed that and was afraid of an escalation?
ReplyDeleteYes idiot, that is why he started college in pre-law in 1961.
Cause he sees the future and needed to be in law school in 1965 to avoid a call up that didn't happen until Dec 1965.
Damn are you F*&KING stoopid.
This is absolutely incredible. After Kennedy was assassinated, the whole country knew that we were heading in that direction.
ReplyDelete(BTW assassinated not assasinated, will spelling counts if ya are tryin' real hard to look smart son ...)
Um, numb-nuts, nobody knew squat until the Gulf of Tonkin incident in August of 1964, however Gen Westmoreland didn't try to Americanize the war till late 1965, when he got the 200,000 troops which were the first openly COMBAT troops sent. All troops sent before that were either advisers or base defense troops.
Damn you don't really know squat about the war do ya son?
So the open combat ops only began after New Years 1966, because just like when I deployed to Saudi Arabia in Dec 1990, I knew we had to initially establish defensive positions to set up for offensive operations that began in late Feb 1991, the Marines in Dec 1965 had to do the same sort of thing son.
Wanna try some more idiotic will the idiot hart spin?
ALL YOUNG MEN (in the 60s) WERE SCARED TO DEATH OF MAYBE HAVING TO GO TO VIETNAM.
ReplyDeleteReally?
Why did John Kerry VOLUNTEER for a second tour after he finished his first?
Jim Webb sought and won an appointment to the Naval Academy in 1964, and when he graduated in 1968 he accepted a commission in the US marine corps instead of quaking in his boots like you claim everyone was.
Max Cleland went to Vietnam as a officer and even was severely wounded so he could save his fellow soldiers when a private dropped a grenade. He didn't hide.
Chuck Hagel and his brother enlisted together and requested service in Vietnam in the same unit.
John Murtha was in the reserves in the Marine Corps, having completed his active service obligation back in the 1950's, BUT Volunteered for service in Vietnam.
David Bonior served in the Air Force from 1968 to 1972 but was never sent to Vietnam
Al Gore enlisted August 1969, and he was sent to Vietnam January 1971, even though his father was a sitting senator at the time.
Bob Kerry served in the United States Navy as a SEAL from 1966 to 1969 during the Vietnam War, lost the lower part of one leg in combat, and received the Medal of Honor.
John McCain volunteered for duty in Vietnam.
Wayne Gilchrest enlisted in the marine corps in 1964 and served in Vietnam.
Randall Cunningham joined the us Navy in 1967 and requested service in Vietnam and was the only Navy "ace" from that war.
Oliver Stone specifically requested combat duty in Vietnam when he enlisted in the U.S. Army.
Lewis Burwell Puller Jr, volunteered for the marines achieving a commission and was severly wounded in Vietnam.
Even Gray Davis served in Vietnam.
BTW PUNK go to Washington DC and tell all the VIETNAM VETS who are visiting their comrades who never returned at The Wall, what you think of them .......
I think it tells more about your gutless ass then these American heroes son.
Enjoy Voltron!
ReplyDeleteThe wingnuts heads are gonna explode.
ReplyDeleteRon Howard's Call To Action
Andy, Opie and the Fonz?
When you lose them ya lost.
ReplyDeleteHow typically reich wing;
ReplyDeletePolice: Campaign Volunteer Lied, Injured Self
Police say a campaign volunteer confessed to making up a story that a mugger attacked her and cut the letter B in her face after seeing her McCain bumper sticker. At a news conference this afternoon, offiicals said they believe the woman's injuries were self-inflicted. Ashley Todd, 20, is now facing charges for filing a false report to police.
A Josephine the poll worker I guess.
Looks like abandon ship time has arrived;
ReplyDeleteReagan Appointee and (Recent) McCain Adviser Charles Fried Supports Obama
Charles Fried, a professor at Harvard Law School, has long been one of the most important conservative thinkers in the United States. Under President Reagan, he served, with great distinction, as Solicitor General of the United States. Since then, he has been prominently associated with several Republican leaders and candidates, most recently John McCain, for whom he expressed his enthusiastic support in January.
This week, Fried announced that he has voted for Obama-Biden by absentee ballot. In his letter to Trevor Potter, the General Counsel to the McCain-Palin campaign, he asked that his name be removed from the several campaign-related committees on which he serves. In that letter, he said that chief among the reasons for his decision "is the choice of Sarah Palin at a time of deep national crisis."
Fried is exceptionally thoughtful and principled; his vote for Obama is especially noteworthy.
And who said good conservatives couldn't vote for Obama?
A central reason Mccain is losing;
ReplyDeleteWhose policies would favor which class?
McCain just could never get the middle class to believe his crap after eight years of total failure by the Republican't party.
Oh and his insane comment the fundamentals of the economy are strong just as Wall Street began crashin' didn't help either.
2008 campaign by John McCain is now a case study on how to lose.
Will you always look like an idiot son .... always ... which is why why run around the tubes lookin' fur attention, other wise you would have never come here in the first place.
ReplyDeleteOr returned when you claimed you didn't want to talk to 1138 or me ever again.
Yes the Gulf of Tonkin happened in Aug 1964 but the people of the US didn't thunk about US troops being sent to Vietnam until the 200,000 were called up in Dec 1965 unless you're claiming they were clairvoyant son ... ALL of them.
In fact the Vietnam War wasn't even a main focal point of the 1964 presidential campaign, the only memorable comment was Goldwater's rather dumb comment about using a nuke in Vietnam even though that would have accomplished little to defeat the insurgents since they lived intermingled with the south Loyalists.
Civil Rights was much more in play then any war thousands of miles away where less then 25,000 total troops were involved, none in direct combat.
And we both know you're that ignorant of what really happened.
Asthma as a teenager? How could they tell that by examining him at 25?
Because STUPID during a physical for military service THEY F&*KING ASKED HIM.
I know they asked me also, I had to fill out a four page form on my physical and medical history BEFORE the doctor examined me idiot.
Damn you know NOTHING about military service do ya boy?
Obviously NOT.
Great comment about the campaign;
ReplyDeleteIn the spirit of the Supreme Court ruling that declared political contributions are a form of speech, millions of donors to the Obama campaign are shouting that they're mad as hell, and they're not going to take it anymore.
Looks like Barack Obama has the first real grass roots campaign in a long long time.
He has raised hundreds of millions from middle class and poor people in a time of economic crisis, which says a lot about the campaign and what the citizens of this country want.
I still haven't heard Will the cowards patriotic excuses for not having enlisted in the armed forces.
ReplyDeleteHe's got no business beating on Biden. None.
The real question here is why a civilian puke like Will runs around spouting BS like Vietnam, now that was a real war and Gulf 1 wasn't.
ReplyDeleteWill hasn't even followed and order or worn the uniform of his country in peace time or in war time and won't answer questions as to why.
My feeling. His mother wouldn't let him.