Sunday, May 20, 2007

UNIFIED FIELD




PROFILE OF A PUBLIC SERVANT: Audrey Hepburn has always been my favorite because of her elegant spirit and her humanitarian work. Of the current crop, I admire Angelina Jolie because of her huge heart — as well as her work with Genocide Prevention in Darfur. She is a U.N. Goodwill Ambassador. She was at Cannes Film Festival last weekend. Jolie, who plays the widow of slain Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in "A Mighty Heart," said she was overwhelmed by Mariane Pearl's inner strength and her ability to let go of hatred. MORE BELOW, but first a few thoughts on Einstein's Unified Field...

You can be attractive even if you're not "good looking" because if you radiate love, you attract people. Enthusiasm and courage actually change your brain waves, changing the molecular structure around you. I personally have always believed that science proves God. The proof is in life itself - the multitudinous objects of beauty and creation. Thought is molecular, bringing objects we form (with our thoughts) into view. But the creative force in the universe is love, which can be proven as an energy. Einstein was just short of admitting what he already suspected, that the unified field is love. And by the way, there is no linear time. Step outside the race belief, outside the man made box of space and time. - Lydia

Why this scientist believes in God
By Dr. Francis Collins
Special to CNN

Editor's note: Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., is the director of the Human Genome Project. His most recent book is "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief."

ROCKVILLE, Maryland (CNN) -- I am a scientist and a believer, and I find no conflict between those world views.

As the director of the Human Genome Project, I have led a consortium of scientists to read out the 3.1 billion letters of the human genome, our own DNA instruction book. As a believer, I see DNA, the information molecule of all living things, as God's language, and the elegance and complexity of our own bodies and the rest of nature as a reflection of God's plan.

I did not always embrace these perspectives. As a graduate student in physical chemistry in the 1970s, I was an atheist, finding no reason to postulate the existence of any truths outside of mathematics, physics and chemistry. But then I went to medical school, and encountered life and death issues at the bedsides of my patients. Challenged by one of those patients, who asked "What do you believe, doctor?", I began searching for answers.

I had to admit that the science I loved so much was powerless to answer questions such as "What is the meaning of life?" "Why am I here?" "Why does mathematics work, anyway?" "If the universe had a beginning, who created it?" "Why are the physical constants in the universe so finely tuned to allow the possibility of complex life forms?" "Why do humans have a moral sense?" "What happens after we die?" (Watch Francis Collins discuss how he came to believe in God Video)

I had always assumed that faith was based on purely emotional and irrational arguments, and was astounded to discover, initially in the writings of the Oxford scholar C.S. Lewis and subsequently from many other sources, that one could build a very strong case for the plausibility of the existence of God on purely rational grounds. My earlier atheist's assertion that "I know there is no God" emerged as the least defensible. As the British writer G.K. Chesterton famously remarked, "Atheism is the most daring of all dogmas, for it is the assertion of a universal negative."

But reason alone cannot prove the existence of God. Faith is reason plus revelation, and the revelation part requires one to think with the spirit as well as with the mind. You have to hear the music, not just read the notes on the page. Ultimately, a leap of faith is required.

For me, that leap came in my 27th year, after a search to learn more about God's character led me to the person of Jesus Christ. Here was a person with remarkably strong historical evidence of his life, who made astounding statements about loving your neighbor, and whose claims about being God's son seemed to demand a decision about whether he was deluded or the real thing. After resisting for nearly two years, I found it impossible to go on living in such a state of uncertainty, and I became a follower of Jesus.

So, some have asked, doesn't your brain explode? Can you both pursue an understanding of how life works using the tools of genetics and molecular biology, and worship a creator God? Aren't evolution and faith in God incompatible? Can a scientist believe in miracles like the resurrection?

Actually, I find no conflict here, and neither apparently do the 40 percent of working scientists who claim to be believers. Yes, evolution by descent from a common ancestor is clearly true. If there was any lingering doubt about the evidence from the fossil record, the study of DNA provides the strongest possible proof of our relatedness to all other living things.

But why couldn't this be God's plan for creation? True, this is incompatible with an ultra-literal interpretation of Genesis, but long before Darwin, there were many thoughtful interpreters like St. Augustine, who found it impossible to be exactly sure what the meaning of that amazing creation story was supposed to be. So attaching oneself to such literal interpretations in the face of compelling scientific evidence pointing to the ancient age of Earth and the relatedness of living things by evolution seems neither wise nor necessary for the believer.

I have found there is a wonderful harmony in the complementary truths of science and faith. The God of the Bible is also the God of the genome. God can be found in the cathedral or in the laboratory. By investigating God's majestic and awesome creation, science can actually be a means of worship.

ANGELINA JOLIE AT CANNES...
Jolie, Pearl and Brad Pitt, the movie's co-producer, were at the Cannes Film Festival on Monday for the premiere of the movie about Pearl's abduction and murder in Pakistan in 2002 while researching a story on Islamic militants.

The film, shot in a naturalistic documentary style, recounts the search to find Pearl's kidnappers and his widow's struggle to come to terms with his death.

"For me, so much of why this film was important to do is because I highly doubt there is anybody in this room who has more reason to hold hate inside herself than Mariane, and she doesn't," Jolie told reporters.

"That is, I think, a lesson for all of us," the

197 comments:

  1. Could it be that those who claim science disprove God's existence, have found financial gain by making this claim?

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  2. The rise of the "religious right" in the 1980's until present has also boosted the claims against God's existence, as the Falwell's and Robertson's turned people away from Christianity with their constant war-mongering and moral professions.

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  3. The rise of the "religious right" in the 1980's until present has also boosted the claims against God's existence, as the Falwell's and Robertson's turned people away from Christianity with their constant war-mongering and moral professions.

    Actually, until Chimpy and Terri Schiavo, they were having a pretty good ride.

    The hypocrite to end all hypocrites did for religion what he does for everything else he touches.

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  4. Jolly:

    Bush has ruined everything he touches including the rise of Spirituality.

    His claims of Gods telling him to kill have turned many away from their beliefs, much less all his corruption.

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  5. A group of gunmen in two cars attacked a minibus heading to Baghdad from a Shiite town north of the capital Monday, killing seven passengers including a child, police said. Meanwhile, thousands of soldiers continued their search for three comrades abducted in a May 12 ambush south of Baghdad. Four other U.S. soldiers and one Iraqi were killed.

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  6. Bush has ruined everything he touches including the rise of Spirituality.

    His claims of Gods telling him to kill have turned many away from their beliefs, much less all his corruption.



    I had a dim view of organized religion before Chimpy became well known. Chimpy's rise (and the Jesusistanis who made it possible) has hardened my opinion.

    I think spirituality is a good thing, I think everyone possesses it-even those who won't admit to it. But it is about as likely you'll see me down at the local strip club riding a pole as it is you'll ever see me in a church.

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  7. Jolly Roger and Larry, you're right.
    That is a very interesting point - that the religious right has actually worked to DISPROVE God's existence by their hatred.

    Never thought of it that way.

    Hey, what do you think of this immigration bill?

    And what's going on with Gonzo Gate?

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  8. I think Monica Goodling is going to teswtify this week.

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  9. I really want to discuss the Monica Goodling and Gonzales scandals, as they pertain to the missing Rove emails.

    Does anyone have an update on this?
    Specifically, can anyone find a succinct statement that connects Rove, the missing e-mails, the Comey testimony to the BIG CRIME UNDERNEATH? Rigging the voting machines and the 2004 election?

    It is all connected, I just need to see the timeline.

    I just re-titled the thread: UNIFIED FIELD.

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  10. Get this:

    The Dem Presidential candidates are outraising their GOP counterparts in, of all places, the GOP stronghold of the south.

    The numbers are in. And the Democratic Party's fundraising edge over the GOP for the 2008 House races continues to grow.


    -- Greg Sargent


    Lost an election last November.....

    Tanking in the polls.....

    Losing the campaign fund raising contest,

    Ya think the re-pubies are in trouble?

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  11. Lydia start with this list here

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  12. Add both the wiki article about her, and The source watch article.

    After that do the google.....

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  13. You could also E mail Josh Marshall at TPM as he was the original blogger who kept up with the attorney scandal and how it is intertwined with the other DOJ hijinks.....

    He is somebody you should have on to discuss the whole mess.

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  14. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_administration_U.S._attorney_firings_controversy

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  15. Time | Ana Marie Cox | May 21, 2007 02:03 PM

    On a blogger conference call just now, McCain fired the first shot in what is sure to be a series of ongoing frontal assaults on Mitt Romney. According to someone on the call, in response to a question about Romney's immigration position, McCain said he'd "wait a couple of weeks and see if the winds change and Mitt comes back around" to his side, and, he said, musing about why Romney seems so touchy on the issue, "Maybe Mitt should get out his small varmint gun and chase those Guatemalans off his yard

    Looks like the drooling old codger is feeling his Bush oats.

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  16. The Hill | Klaus Marre | May 21, 2007 01:01 PM

    Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Artur Davis (D-Ala.) introduced a resolution Monday urging President Bush to fire Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

    The two lawmakers, both of whom are former federal prosecutors, are highly critical of Gonzales's handling of the firing of several U.S. attorneys. Their resolution also states that the attorney general has failed to "assure the public that the laws of the nation are being enforced in an independent, nonpartisan and judicious manner."

    Electrode Al won't leave!

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  17. Former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, who has been filling the gadfly role in the Democratic nomination race, said he wants to create a cash flow to the poor and predicted he'd trounce Mitt Romney in a general election in an interview with his hometown newspaper Sunday.

    "If he's the nominee, I'd eat his lunch," Gravel said in an interview with the Worcester (Ind.) Telegram & Gazette, referring to the former Massachusetts governor.

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  18. Clif - thank you! I will be doing my research.

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  19. Clif, the first link you gave me is broken, can you repost it?
    thanks!
    xo

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  20. This link works for me


    But if it doesn't try this;


    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=goodling&search.x=11&search.y=12

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/mt/
    mt-search.cgi?search=goodling&search.x=11&search.y=12

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  21. It's an outrage that 50 million Americans lack health insurance. We're the richest nation on earth, but 50 million poor people have been left behind with no health care coverage whatsoever. We need to fix that problem by getting rid of the Republicans who lack the human decency to care about the poor, and then, as decent and caring Democrats, we have provide universal health care insurance so poor people can get the health care they need.

    More of the Bush economy.

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  22. Larry said...
    It's an outrage that 50 million Americans lack health insurance. We're the richest nation on earth, but 50 million poor people have been left behind with no health care coverage whatsoever. We need to fix that problem by getting rid of the Republicans who lack the human decency to care about the poor, and then, as decent and caring Democrats, we have provide universal health care insurance so poor people can get the health care they need.

    More of the Bush economy.

    POWERFUL POST LARRY!!

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  23. 2007 growth predicted to be slowest in 5 years
    Forecast of 2.2 percent GDP rate slowest since 2002

    By JEANNINE AVERSA
    Associated Press


    WASHINGTON — Weighed down by a housing slump, the economy in 2007 will log its most sluggish growth in five years. But that showing should not cause businesses to really clamp down on hiring, economic forecasters say.

    A forecast to be released today by the National Association for Business Economics puts the growth of the gross domestic product at 2.2 percent for this year. The rate was 2.7 percent in the group's previous survey, in February.

    If the latest prediction proves correct, the growth rate would be the weakest since 2002. Then, the fragile economy was emerging from a recession and grew by only 1.6 percent.

    "The expansion has descended from its cruising altitude," said the association's president, Carl Tannenbaum, chief economist at LaSalle Bank.

    The main culprit is the sour housing market. It fell into a slump last year after a five-year boom. Nearly half of the forecasters think the market will not reach its bottom until this winter or later.

    Even so, the employment climate should continue to weather the fallout from the housing slump, the forecasters said.

    GDP is the value of all goods and services produced within the United States. It is considered the best barometer of the country's economic standing.

    For next year, the forecasters believe the economy will grow by 2.9 percent — somewhat sluggish and lower than the earlier forecast of 3 percent.

    The unemployment rate would edge up to 4.8 percent next year, according to the survey of 48 forecasters that was conducted April 19 through May 8.

    More than half of the forecasters said there was at least a 25 percent chance of a recession getting under way within the next year. Earlier this year, former Federal Reserve chief Alan Greenspan put the odds of a recession at one in three.

    Gas prices drive inflation

    More of the Bush economy.

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  24. How come none of the reichwing fooles like Limpballs, O'Liely or the gutless punks who troll here ever wanna discus the pedophile tendencies of their elected minions?

    REPUBLICAN LEADER OF THE DAY-- MEET TED KLAUDT, SERIAL CHILD RAPIST AND RIGHT-WING EVANGELICAL LOON

    ........Like so many tightly wound repressed and mentally ill Republicans, Klaudt was preaching the moral superiority of the far right while he was abusing molesting children-- his own foster daughters and 2 state legislative pages! He "faces a long list of charges: eight counts of rape, two counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, two counts of witness tampering, sexual contact with a person under 16, and stalking."

    Court documents mention five possible victims. Three were foster children between the ages of 15 and 19 who lived with Klaudt's family. One is a cousin of one of those girls, and the fifth is a friend of Klaudt's daughter.

    In the most disturbing accusation, the girls say Klaudt had them convinced they could earn up to $20,000 by donating their eggs to a fertility clinic. And even though he has no medical training, the girls say Klaudt did all the supposed "exams" and "procedures" himself.


    Klaudt fancied himself a radical right Republican (and an evangelical) and in 2005 was a leader against the formation of the South Dakota Mainstream Coalition, meant to turn Republicans back towards mainstream conservatism............

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  25. There seem to be more Republican officials who are pedophiles than the jails can hold.

    Klaudt really takes the cake of conservative pedophilia.

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  26. NEW YORK — Retail gasoline prices climbed to another record Monday, while crude oil futures jumped above $66 per barrel amid concerns about gasoline supply heading into the peak summer driving season.


    A gallon of regular unleaded costs an average of $3.196 across the country, up from $3.178 on Sunday, according to AAA and Oil Price Information Service. Prices are up 33.7 cents from a month ago and 30.4 cents from a year ago, as demand remains strong, and a spate of planned and unexpected refinery shutdowns have constricted supply.

    More of the Bush economy. (Oilman Bush)

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  27. CNN:

    There have been 3,422 U.S troops killed in the Iraq war.

    Are you happy Bush?

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  28. Ammunition shipments to local gun shops and police departments are being delayed for months because the Army has more than tripled its demand for small caliber ammunition.

    The Iraq war has left police dept. short on ammo.

    More of Bush's Homeland Security.

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  29. From AP:

    WASHINGTON — In grudging concessions to President Bush, Democrats intend to draft an Iraq war-funding bill without a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops and shorn of billions of dollars in spending on domestic programs, officials said Monday.

    The legislation would include the first federal minimum wage increase in more than a decade, a top priority for the Democrats who took control of Congress in January, the officials added.

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  30. This makes me sick! Why are the Dems giving in to Bush?

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  31. The Democrats forget why they are in control and who put them there.

    As usual they lack backbone, but love Corporate dollars.

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  32. Hi Larry:

    I thought they were going to fight to get a timeline to get out of Iraq but no..they gave up I guess.

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  33. Susie:

    They caved in on Iraq and they caved in on Bush's Free Trade deal.

    Isn't that what the Republicans have always done?

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  34. The House Judiciary Committee is prepared to use subpoenas to compel the testimony of Karl Rove and other White House officials, Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) and subcomittee Chairwoman Linda Sanchez (D-CA) warned White House counsel Fred Fielding today.

    "We are today writing to express our extreme disappointment in the White House's rebuff of efforts by the Judiciary Committee to obtain voluntary cooperation with our investigation concerning the firing of at least nine U.S. Attorneys in 2006 and related matters," they wrote. "We write to make one last appeal for such voluntary cooperation."

    The Democrats caved in on the Iraq and Free Trade bills, so should we think they really will go after Karl Rove?

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  35. Larry:

    I am disappointed in them...I thought they would have more spine than this!

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  36. I mean, they hold the purse, after all... and that is a way to bargain with Bush's vetoes

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  37. Susie:

    It is obvious the Democrats love the job title, but have no interest in doing what they were elected to do.

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  38. The more Bush vetoes, the more the public will pressure the Repugs who fear being voted out of office.

    Bush always get what he wants.

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  39. Al Gore will be on Larry King Tuesday night for the entire hour.

    Put Gore in office. maybe he will have some backbone.

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  40. I put a draft Al Gore petition link on my blog earlier.

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  41. http://www.algore.org/

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  42. Suzie-Q said...
    From AP:

    WASHINGTON — In grudging concessions to President Bush, Democrats intend to draft an Iraq war-funding bill without a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops and shorn of billions of dollars in spending on domestic programs, officials said Monday."

    those spineless jellyfish obviously forgot WHY they were elected..............They have the power to end this war and bring our soldiers home safe but instead of doing the RIGHT thing and giving the will of the people that elected them a voice.........they decide to do nothing because they are afraid GWB and Rove will play McCarthy and paint them as hating and not supporting the troops and surrendering.............whatever the hell that means............it boggles the mind how a assclown who understaffed and under equiped the troops from the beginning, neglected the veterans and just not even a few days ago called a small pay raise for the troops "UNNECCESSARY"

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  43. The Department of Defense is studying the possibility of "maintaining a core group of forces in Iraq, possibly for decades," reports National Public Radio.

    Bush's war will never end.

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  44. May 21 2007: 10:15 AM EDT


    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- General Electric announced early Monday it would sell its plastics business to Saudi Basic Industries Corp. in an $11.6 billion deal.

    GE (Charts, Fortune 500) has been shopping the unit for some time, and the price and buyer were not a surprise, having earlier appeared in published reports.

    "This sale is the right move at the right time for GE share owners," said GE Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt. "We received a good price from a respected global company in a highly competitive bidding process. We will use the proceeds to fund the stock buyback and strengthen the company through restructuring.

    More of the Bush economy.

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  45. MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (Reuters) - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, on a book publicity tour in states that play early roles in the U.S. presidential race, said on Monday he would likely wait until November 6, a year before the 2008 election, to announce any campaign for the White House.

    Oh great. Another arrogant neocon running.

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  46. Larry said...
    Could it be that those who claim science disprove God's existence, have found financial gain by making this claim?"

    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Your really on today Larry!

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  47. Lebanon is being blown to bits and instead of Bush trying to get peace, he ignores the mess hoping the entire Mideast will explode for his gain.

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  48. Larry said...
    Jolly:

    Bush has ruined everything he touches including the rise of Spirituality.

    His claims of Gods telling him to kill have turned many away from their beliefs, much less all his corruption."

    Bush sure does ruin EVERYTHING he touches.............the man is a TOTAL failure that daddy is still bailing out and changing his dirty diapers.

    BTW dont we USUALLY call people that CLAIM God is telling them to kill millions psychotic serial killers or genocidal murderers?

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  49. Bush,like most of the neocons claim the term religion to justify their alley cat morals.

    Bush has taken it to the extremes with using God's name to justify killing thousands.

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  50. If you're bald, its because God enjoys looking at the top of your head

    Stephen Colbert

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  51. By the way, I've been wanting to say this for a long time.

    I DECLARE THIS BLOG, TROLL FREE.

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  52. I'm like the midget lady on Poltergeist.

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  53. Larry said...
    Time | Ana Marie Cox | May 21, 2007 02:03 PM

    On a blogger conference call just now, McCain fired the first shot in what is sure to be a series of ongoing frontal assaults on Mitt Romney. According to someone on the call, in response to a question about Romney's immigration position, McCain said he'd "wait a couple of weeks and see if the winds change and Mitt comes back around" to his side, and, he said, musing about why Romney seems so touchy on the issue, "Maybe Mitt should get out his small varmint gun and chase those Guatemalans off his yard

    Looks like the drooling old codger is feeling his Bush oats."


    And this delusional senile old fool ACTUALLY thinks he has a chance to be president...........he BELONGS in the GOP..........the Grand old Party of Pedophiles and rascists!

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  54. Well Troll free is fine with me..........the halfwit fols must have got tired of looking stupid and wasting their time defending an even bigger fool than themselves.

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  55. Excellent work Worf on cleaning out the trash.

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  56. Al Gore is on Larry King Tuesday night for the entire hour.

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  57. BTW, God must not enjoy looking at the top of my head because I have plenty of hair.

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  58. Maybe he is deciding how much to take out Mike.

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  59. On a more serious note I'm reading Mark Green;s Book:

    Losing Our Democracy: How Bush and The Far Right Are Betraying Americans For Power and Profit.

    And the chapter i'm on right now about How Bush is destroying Free speech, attacking the Constitution and stacking the Justice Department with cronnies is truly chilling!

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  60. Susie:

    I am trying to help Mike with his vanity.

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  62. Sounds like the book has events as they happened, before they happened.

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  63. American roads are the hottest commodity in the international marketplace. State and local governments are falling all over themselves to sell off highways, bridges, and all sorts of other revenue-producing infrastructure, to international financiers who are eager to snap up structures Americans have already paid for, and for which they continue to pay maintenance costs through endless taxes.

    Selling America. More of the Bush economy.

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  64. The trolls frequently use the argument that freedoms and liberties were taken away during other wars.............well first of all this is a perpetul war without end that has ALLREADY gone on longer than WW2.

    Secondly, as stated in Losing Our Democracy by Mark Green page 187.......this is in stark contrast to previous wartime administrations and executives. In 1918, during the hypernationalist frenzy of WW1, Theodore Roosevelt declared "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public".

    During WW2 FDR's administration gave special attention to promotion and exercise of the right to free expression as a way to broadcast "the key differences between American liberty and Nazi tyranny"

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  65. Mike said...

    Well Troll free is fine with me


    You're a poet and didn't know it.

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  66. That photo could have been taken in the White House.

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  67. Worf needs a blog sign saying you have entered a troll free zone.

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  68. Yep, Larry, and he was shopping in the Market Place...

    I'll Take All Of It

    LMAO

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  69. Larry said...

    Excellent work Worf on cleaning out the trash.


    I can't take the credit.

    It was everyone as much as it was anyone, and mostly I think, it was events too indefensible to defend any longer.

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  70. A troll free zone is almost as good as a Bush free White House would be.

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  71. Is that Bush's payoff for Iraqi oil?

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  72. We didn't give in to the dark side of the Schwartz.

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  73. Ignoring the lessons of 1929
    The similarities of the lead-up to the great market crash to today's economic environment are obvious. Don't say you weren't warned.

    Latest Market Update
    May 21, 2007 -- 16:20 ET
    [BRIEFING.COM] After seven long years, which included a 2 1/2-year period from March 2000 to October 2002 that saw nearly 50% of the broader market's value evaporate, the S&P 500 finally eclipsed its record closing high intraday....

    The economic and financial landscape of 2007 bears striking similarities to 1929. Back then, there were large, unregulated pool operators and other insiders constantly muscling the tape in whatever direction they chose. The public, too, was involved, thinking the country was experiencing a new era. Meanwhile, business began deteriorating in the spring of 1929, though the partying in stocks lasted until the fall.


    The real Bush economy.

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  74. The Schwartz is darker than death.

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  75. Schummer sent a letter to the White House today asking who sent Gonzales to the hospital for that clandestine meeting with Ashcroft.

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  76. Heres another passage from the book as stated in Losing Our Democracy by Mark Green page 188.

    "Questioning the conduct of the war on terror or the war in Iraq is now regarded as treason. Aboard Airforce One in 2005, a White House Spokesman named Trent Duffy commented to reporters that "President Bush believes that those who want the US to change course in Iraq do not want America to win the overall War on Terror" Duffy went on to say that Bush "can understand that people dont share his view that we must win the war on terror, but he just has a different view"

    Thus did the Bush White House twist criticisms so that dissent became seditious support of terrorists.

    According to this reasoning, WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY IN IRAQ BECAUSE THE TROOPS MORALE IS HURT BY SLIGHTS AGAINST THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF......AND NOT BECAUSE OF INCOMPETENT LEADERSHIP AND POOR PLANNING.

    THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS TRIED TO TELL PEOPLE THAT IF THEY ARE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE WAR THEY ARE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE TROOPS."

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  77. The troops have to hate Bush for his stupidity and arrogance.

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  78. Larry said...

    Excellent work Worf on cleaning out the trash.


    I can't take the credit.

    It was everyone as much as it was anyone, and mostly I think, it was events too indefensible to defend any longer."


    Agreed.....the events are just TOOOOOO hard to defend but I still think saying good job is in order........since you were the first person to break the little punks control over this blog and send them scurrying away to regroup!

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  79. t's an outrage that 50 million Americans lack health insurance. We're the richest nation on earth, but 50 million poor people have been left behind with no health care coverage whatsoever.

    I really wonder if that's still true, once you cut off the flow of funny money from overseas.

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  80. The Schwartz is with us.

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  81. Andrew Card( Bush's former Chief of Staff) also went with Gonzales and he has been avoiding questions.

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  82. Larry said...

    Is that Bush's payoff for Iraqi oil?
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    Larry:

    Could be..

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  83. OBI WAN WORFEUS said...
    Schummer sent a letter to the White House today asking who sent Gonzales to the hospital for that clandestine meeting with Ashcroft."

    Well thats great and I like Schummer lately but I cant help but say ........its about damn time that they put the pieces together and tied GWB and Rove to these crimes!

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  84. OBI WAN WORFEUS said...

    I am Obi Wan Worfeus.
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    ROFLMAO

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  85. Jolly:

    There will probably be a lot more and a majority of the uninsured are fully employed.

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  86. I like that image LOL!

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  87. Imagine.

    The Attorney General of the United States being disbarred.

    And Bush says he's done nothing wrong.

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  88. BTW dont we USUALLY call people that CLAIM God is telling them to kill millions psychotic serial killers or genocidal murderers?

    They didn't buy it from Charlie Manson, did they?

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  89. Bush is stupid. Proclaiming Gonzales's innocence when his world has caved in.

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  90. Manson has more sense than the neocons.

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  91. Obi-Wan "Ben" Kenobi is a fictional character in the Star Wars universe. He is one of the most prominent characters in the Star Wars saga; along with Anakin.

    An accurate description of Obi Wan Worfeus - Prominent

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  92. its about damn time that they put the pieces together and tied GWB and Rove to these crimes!
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    Hi Mike:

    Yes, long overdue but I think they're getting there.

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  93. Gonzales has become a laughing stock, buts whats more, our system of justice is seen on par with that of Cuba, or Mexico.

    He is defending the indefensible, and doing it with a straight face.

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  94. But lets examine that McCarthy type reasoning that GWB Bush and his fascist fools are using to TRY and silence dissenters and critics shall we.......

    So according to the Fascist Neo Cons who despise and loathe freedom of speech, we are having problems in Iraq NOT because of incompetent leadership and poor planning BUT because GWB and his pack of Neo Con fools have had their feelings hurt and according to them, questioning or disagreeing with the President hurts the troops morale and is the root of all the problems in Iraq..............this from a bunch of assclowns who CLAIM to support the troops and veterans YET say giving the troops a small raise is "UNNECCESSARY" and that neglect outr veterans and allow them to live in filth and squalor.

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  95. Jolly Roger said...
    BTW dont we USUALLY call people that CLAIM God is telling them to kill millions psychotic serial killers or genocidal murderers?

    They didn't buy it from Charlie Manson, did they?"

    Charles Manson Joe McCarthy and Hitler..........seem to be the Reich Wings idols and mentors!

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  96. Bush WILL be impeached. Of this I am certain.

    Before I believed it.

    Now I know it.

    And the crux is going to be this clandestine meeting, ordered by Bush, to circumvent the Attorney General and get John Ashcroft, who Bush knew was NOT the AG at the time, to sign a document authorizing a program that the AG had already told Bush was illegal.

    This is what they call, the bitch of the bunch.

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  97. Lets hope they are getting there SQ,,,,,,,,,,,,It cant be soon enough for me!

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  98. WASHINGTON, May 15 — On the night of March 10, 2004, a high-ranking Justice Department official rushed to a Washington hospital to prevent two White House aides from taking advantage of the critically ill Attorney General, John Ashcroft, the official testified today.

    One of those aides was Alberto R. Gonzales, who was then White House counsel and eventually succeeded Mr. Ashcroft as Attorney General.

    “I was very upset,” said James B. Comey, who was deputy Attorney General at the time, in his testimony today before the Senate Judiciary Committee. “I was angry. I thought I had just witnessed an effort to take advantage of a very sick man, who did not have the powers of the attorney general because they had been transferred to me.”

    The hospital visit by Mr. Gonzales and Andrew H. Card Jr., who was then White House chief of staff, has been disclosed before, but never in such dramatic, personal detail. Mr. Comey’s account offered a rare and titillating glimpse of a Washington power struggle, complete with a late-night showdown in the White House after a dramatic encounter in a darkened hospital room — in short, elements of a potboiler paperback novel.

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  99. See, Comey was the acting AG at the time.

    They approached Comey, and asked him to authorize the Bill.

    But "Comey don't play that".


    He told them it was illegal, and he wasn't signing it.

    So they tried to get Ashcroft to sign it, even though they KNEW Ashcroft was NOT the AG.

    This is called "OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE", and it is not only impeachable, its criminal.

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  100. Taking down the PNAC is the key..

    Libby- down
    Wolfowitz- down
    Rumsfeld- down
    Armitage- down
    Bolton- down
    Cheney- Impeachment coming
    Perle- ??
    Kristol- ??

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  101. Obi:

    I hope you are right but Pelosi keeps saying no impeachment, the Democrats caved in to Bush on a timetable, and the Democrats crawled into bed with Bush and Corporate America to agree on Bush's "free trade."

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  102. BTW dont we USUALLY call people that CLAIM God is telling them to kill millions psychotic serial killers or genocidal murderers?
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    Hi Jolly:

    Yes, and they are!

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  103. The Democrats totally sold out the very people who put them in office by giving Bush what he wants. More war.

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  104. Larry said...
    “I was very upset,” said James B. Comey, who was deputy Attorney General at the time,


    I am not sure where you got that article Larry, but the author is incorrect.

    Comey was NOT the "deputy AG at the time.

    He was the Attorney General.

    Ashcroft had transfered power to him. He was the acting AG, or in other words, the AG.

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  105. Bush is stupid. Proclaiming Gonzales's innocence when his world has caved in.
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    Larry:

    Bush is stupid yes but now he is desperate!

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  106. I got the article from Newsvine.

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  107. Bush, Card and Mueller had all been notified Ashcroft had turned over power, but they IGNORED the Constitutional authority of the Office of the Attorney General, and tried to BYPASS the acting AG, to get Ashcroft, who had NO power at the time, to ILLEGALLY sign a document authorizing a program that the both Ashcroft and the acting AG, James Comey, had declared illegal.

    They are so through.

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  108. If Ashcroft is laid up and can't be Attorney general, then that would be like the idiot Bush being laid up so Cheney is in charge, or is Ashcroft only out of power when he is under the knife?

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  109. Bush is a treasonous criminal out to destroy the Constitution and all the Freedoms and liberties it protects and set up a fascist dictatorship ruled by a pompous tyrant.

    Look at his assault on freedom of speech.........the little brute has set up "Free Speech Zones" for protestors that are miles away from the actual events.........any protesters who come closer are arrested as are people who wear shirts the fuheror doesnt like or bumper stickers he doesnt approve of like the "No Blood For Oil" bumper sticker in Colorado or Cindy Sheehan at Bush's State of The Union............where Bush blathered about freedom and democracy as a woman who lost her son in the war was being arrested merely because the president and his brownshirt thugs didnt like her shirt.

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  110. They are also preparing to introduce legislation to control free speech on the internet.

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  111. Larry said...
    I got the article from Newsvine.


    Well Newsvine is wrong, lol.


    James Comey WAS the Deputy AG.

    But at the time of the clandestine hospital meeting, Ascroft had already made him the AG.

    Ashcroft turned power over to Comey when he went in the hospital, and James Comey was the actual Attorney General of the United States, and he declared the spying program, illegal.

    Bush IGNORED him, and tried to TRICK Ashcroft into signing it.

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  112. Larry, Bush KNOWS that Gonzalez is the ONLY thing propping up his criminal empire............Gonzalez is stonewalling, and stifling any investigation he can as well as not enforcing the subpoena's to stall for time.

    These guys are like a bunch of mobsters trying to silence all the rats with their code of silence..................but with charges of treason maybe the rats will turn on each other.

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  113. If Ashcroft had signed it he would then be liable.

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  114. Larry said...
    is Ashcroft only out of power when he is under the knife?


    They sign a document when they want to turn over power.

    This document hands power over to the named person.

    That person was James Comey.

    Then, when they want to hand power back, they sign another document, and hand power back over.

    This never happened. Instead, Bush fired Comey and replaced him with Alberto Gonzles.

    The same Alberto Gonzales he had sent to the hospital to try to circumvent the constitution.

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  115. They gave Rove one last chance to turn over emails, but Rove knows nothing will happen.

    They caved on Iraq today.

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  116. Larry said...

    If Ashcroft had signed it he would then be liable.


    If Ashcroft had signed it it wouldn't have meant anything.

    He had no authority to sign anything other than the dinner check.

    He had turned over power to Comey.

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  117. Well, they had motive and they tried to cover their crimes..However, there is never a perfect crime...

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  118. They should subpoena Andy Card as as well!

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  119. This was all in Comey's testimony to congress.

    He said Ashcroft pointed to him, and said, "THERE's THE ATTORNEY GENERAL".

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  120. Ashcroft knew the devil even though he actively embraced the same devil for years.

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  121. Mike said...

    They should subpoena Andy Card as as well!



    You can count on it.

    Card was the Chief of Staff to the President of the United States.

    If HE was there, then its reasonable to assume he was sent there by the President.

    Everyone knows this. Its just no ones willing to say it yet.

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  122. Thats right if Ashcroft had signed it it wouldnt have meant anything........first of all He was NOT acting AG at the time and secondly if he was in ICU he was OBVIOUSLY NOT of sound mind and many wills are overturned if the person was in the hospital and/or not of sound mind>

    GWB and his minions tried to circumvent the law...........of that there is NO doubt.

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  123. In a nutshell, the President of the United States is going to be found guilty of attempting to "Obstruct Justice".


    Obstruction is a felony.

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  124. Bush will most likely be impeached in the House, then forced to resign to avoid prosecution.


    :|

    Sound familiar?

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  125. Thats what I dont understand why are people STILL afraid to speak out against this idiot buffoon..........Bush is finished yet people STILL appear afraid of challenging him openly or speaking out against him...........look how Jimmy Carter softented his statement when attacked by the WH!

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  126. I hope the Democrats will find the spine to do so.

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  127. Bush was stupid to send Card.


    Gonzales, a life long friend and his lawyer, was bad enough.

    But they could have denied Gonzales was there on his orders.

    But Andy Card? The Presidents own Chief of Staff?

    Along with the Presidents lawyer and the director of the FBI?

    That dog's not gonna hunt.

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  128. Whose testimony do you think will be the most critical?

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  129. Good night Suzy you sweet thang you.

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  130. Card scooted out of his position not long after that. Wonder if there is a connection.

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  131. Mike said...
    Whose testimony do you think will be the most critical?


    Well, its hard to say.

    They all lie.

    I think Comey's testimony ultimately will have proved to already have been the most critical.

    Comey's testimony opened the floodgates. His testimony under oath, of this meeting while he was the acting Attorney General of the United States is just bizarre.

    It reeks of a Tom Clancy novel.

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  132. Comey denied the authority, and so did Ashcroft, to the credit of his soul.

    They KNEW it was unconstitutional.

    And they refused to ignore the constitution.

    But Bush, just sent his little reichmarschalls to do it like theives in the night.

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  133. Ashcroft has been quite on this mess.

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  134. Larry said...
    Wonder if there is a connection.


    Absolutely.

    Suddenly Ashcroft resigns, Card goes shortly after, so does Comey.

    Also Mueller threatened to resign, and apparently Bush changed "something" in this secret program, supposedly, that convinced Robert Mueller stay on.

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  135. Larry said...
    Ashcroft has been quite on this mess.



    He's probably scared.

    After all, pancreatis. That can be caused by certain toxins I believe.

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  136. They are all afraid of Bush and Cheney for some reason..........I think the ONLY reason Tenet has been out in the l;imelight is to:

    1) make some money promoting his book

    2) to sensd a message to the White House not to make him the patsy or he'll bite back.

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  137. If Ashcroft or Mueller would tell what they know, they wouldn't be able to discredit Comey as disgruntled.

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  138. Ashcroft isn't the only ailing one that has popped up since the Texas mob took over.

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  139. Bush runs this country like the mafia runs a criminal empire the only difference is most mobsters have more honor than Bush and his pack of Neo Con fools!

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  140. Cut the head of Rove, and like all snakes they are finished. So will be the den of vipers Rove directs.

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  141. I mean, think of it.

    Bush's secret spying program that he kept publically signing into law over at NSA, (remember those televised signings? Maybe the NSA was practicing a little CYA?) was never authorized by the DOJ. Ashcroft apparently had issues with it, and after voicing them, suddenly fell ill.

    Then, the President goes to Ashcrofts Deputy, who is now acting AG, who tells him its unconstitutional, and tells him to take a hike.

    Then, Bush sends his lawyer, his chief of staff, and the head of the FBI to Ashcrofts bedside, where he is slipping in and out of a coma. He sends them there with a document in hand, to authorize the program that TWO AG's have told him is illegal.

    The bed ridden Ashcroft, still refuses to sign the document, and points to Comey, declaring "THERE'S the Attorney General".

    Gonzales, Card and Mueller, angrilly storm out, never bothering to acknowledge Mr Comey, the acting Attorney General.

    You can't find this stuff in stores.

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  142. Larry that disgruntled Horseshit wont fly its the oldest line in the book to TRY and discredit a worker........Rusty the idiot troll used to use it ALL the time.........it doesnt mean much coming from a bunch of authoritarian fascists thugs with NO credibility or competence who have been dead WRONG on EVERYTHING.

    Seriously can anyone name one thing GWB or Cheney have been right on!

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  143. Actually it is all very sinister, only in a moronic way.

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  144. And THEN, the President CONTINUES the spying program, even after being told by TWO ATTORNEY GENERALS, that its ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.


    And THEN he appoints one of the flunkies he sent to Ashcrofts bedside to circumvent the constitution, the Attorney General.


    :|

    This stuff just sells itself.

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  145. That is straight out of a fiction novel............when the tyrant is no longer in power they will probably make a movie about this.

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  146. Bush and Cheney have either been wrong or just lying on everything.

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  147. They make Nixon's little fiasco look like Kindergarten College.

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  148. And the repugs still support this treasonous fool................how many Congessional seats and governorships do you think the repugs will lose if they dont put their country ahead of blind partisan loyalty and impeach Bush and Gonzalez and end the war?

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  149. They will support the war and Bush till the last dog dies.

    If they back out on him they will lose the millions of neocon dollars.

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  150. See they haven't even gotten to that yet guys.

    Those 3 Weeks?


    Those 3 weeks that the President continued the spying program without authority is another seperate crime.

    It is seperate of the Obstruction of Justice charge coming his way for sending the 3 Amigos to Ashcrofts bedside.

    When he continued the spying program after being told it is illegal, you have willful disobedience to the law, and Bush could be impeached for those 3 weeks too.

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  151. See Goodling got immunity from any crimes she may have committed in purging the DOJ and installing blindly loyal partisans...........but if she perjures herself thats something altogether different.

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  152. For 3 blissful weeks, after being told by TWO Attorney Generals that his program was illegal, Bush thumbed his nose at the law and continued in his criminal activity.

    His arrogance knew no bounds.


    Until now.

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  153. If Goodling turns, coupled with Comey's testimony, will that be enough to get Bush without Ashcroft or Mueller?

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  154. Well Goodling is from the spying scandal, and the firings of all the US Attorneys.

    It is a seperate crime, or in fact, a seperate "series" of crimes.

    There are several actions there where its clear the AG and the White House were working together to silence investigations into republicans, which of course, is ANOTHER Obstruction charge.

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  155. They may be all interconnected in a loose way.

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  156. Larry said...
    If Goodling turns, coupled with Comey's testimony, will that be enough to get Bush without Ashcroft or Mueller?


    Well Mueller is one who could be on the recieving end of the obstruction charges. He after all was one of the 3 Amigos sent to Ashcrofts bedside to try to circumvent the law.

    Ashcroft's testimony will be important, but not crucial. He will likely only coroborate Comey's testimony.

    Since no one has denied this event took place, its going to be hard for anyone to deny it now.

    I'd say this ship has already left port, and its not turning around.

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  157. so many scandals and so much corruption...............Jimmy Carter was absolutely right this is THE Worst President and administration EVER!

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  158. If Comey doesn't have testimony to back his up, they will say he is a disgruntled former employee.

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  159. Carter is backing off that Mike, even though he should keep on saying it.

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  160. I STILL think this is going to come down to removing Gonzalez FIRST............because its up to HIM to enforce the subpoenas so if Rice refuses to answer the subpoena or others stonewall and dont answer like Gonzalez nothing can be done until we have an AG who is loyal to the Rule Of Law and this country rather than GWB and his pack of Neo Con Fascists and Fools!

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  161. Carter is not exactly backing off, but he did tone it down.

    It is that unwritten law that a former president doesn't criticize a sitting president thing that he's worried about.

    But in this case, he needs to make an exception.

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  162. Larry said...
    Carter is backing off that Mike, even though he should keep on saying it."

    I know........if I were Carter I would have issued a STRONGER response after the White Houses response.

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  163. Oh well, when Bush is impeached he can call him names then.

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  164. The way people seem to always back down like they are afraid of this fool and with what happened to Ashcroft and Powell.........I casnt help but think GWB is threatening and spying on people to scare and intimidate them........among other things............it sure looks like Ashcroft might have been poisoned.

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  165. Larry said...
    If Comey doesn't have testimony to back his up, they will say he is a disgruntled former employee


    Thats gonna be hard to sell.

    He didn't say this on Meet the Press.

    He said it under oath.

    To Congress.

    On National Television.

    And he was both the Deputy and Acting Attorney General of the United States.

    His word will carry some weight.

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  166. Rice doesn't acknowledge a subpoena and Gonzales continues his normal dribble of innocence.

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  167. Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 443792 responses


    Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
    88%


    No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
    4.4%


    No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
    6%


    I don't know.
    1.9%

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  168. All actions that will help condemn them at their trials.

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  169. Clif:

    88% is pretty telling.

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  170. OBI WAN WORFEUS said...
    Larry said...
    If Comey doesn't have testimony to back his up, they will say he is a disgruntled former employee


    Thats gonna be hard to sell.

    He didn't say this on Meet the Press.

    He said it under oath.

    To Congress.

    On National Television.

    And he was both the Deputy and Acting Attorney General of the United States.

    His word will carry some weight."


    I agree......it is what it is and no amount of spin and BS can change that.

    A man in critical condition in the ICU who was no longer acting AG was asked to sign something into law by the Presidents Chief of Staff, his Attorney and the FBI Director............they were clearly there at the behest of GWB and they clearly KNEW that Ashcroft was NOT acting AG, nor was he fit enough nor of sound mind to be .............YET they tried to committ fraud and get him to authorize the spy program ANYWAY.......................NO, the disgruntedled employ BS wont work here!

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  171. 88%, even the Volksturm and the rats have abandoned that ship!

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  172. The more you think about it the more you realize just how low and heartless they really are.

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  173. Friends, the press and the government are in bed together in an embrace so intimate and wrong, they could spoon on a twin mattress and still have room for Ted Koppel.

    Journalists used to questions the reasons for war and expose abuse of power.

    Now, like toothless babies, they suckle on the sugary teat of misinformation and poop it into the diaper we call the 6:00 News.

    Demand more of your government.

    Demand more of your press.


    From "The Simpsons"

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  174. Everyone should hop over to ThinkProgress and watch the little 10 minutes "SIMPONS" video clip on the article entitles, "SIMPSONS VS THE MEDIA".

    It actually attacks Fox News.

    And the Simpons are ON FOX!

    Watch it. Its funny, and its amazing.

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  175. Baghdad:

    Car bomb kills 53 and wounds 96.

    "Surge" on Bush.

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  176. Hey, aren't we the most exceptional nation in history? George Bush and his pals thought so -- and they were in a great American tradition of exceptionalism. Of course, they were imagining us as the most exceptional empire in history (or maybe at the end of it), the ultimate New Rome. Anyway, explain this to me: Among all the exceptional things we claim to do, how come we never take credit for what may be the most exceptional of all, our success of successes, the thing that makes us uniquely ourselves on this war-ridden planet -- peddling more arms to Earthlings than anyone else in the neighborhood? Why do we hide this rare talent under a bushel? In the interest of shining a proud light on an under-rated national skill, I asked Frida Berrigan to return the United States to its rightful place in the Pantheon of arms-dealing nations.

    U.S. Takes Gold in Arms Olympics

    They don't call us the sole superpower for nothing. Paul Wolfowitz might be looking for a new job right now, but the term he used to describe the pervasiveness of U.S. might back when he was a mere deputy secretary of defense -- hyperpower -- still fits the bill.

    Face it, the United States is a proud nation of firsts.

    Bush just loves this war!

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  177. As more and more workers who inhaled the dust at ground zero fall ill, it has become increasingly clear that much of the problem can be traced to the Giuliani administration’s failure to insist that all emergency personnel and construction workers at the site wear respirators.

    The then-mayor and his agency heads put their emphasis on a speedy cleanup and return to normalcy. In that, they were remarkably successful, clearing the site in less than 10 months. Unfortunately, the price is now being paid by thousands of workers who have developed lung and other ailments.

    The evolution of this tragedy was described by Anthony DePalma in The Times and other analysts. In the immediate aftermath of the collapse of the twin towers, it was understandable that emergency workers would rush in in hopes of rescuing victims, and hang the precautions. But as rescue operations turned into a search for remains and then debris-removal, workers continued to ignore warnings from both city and federal officials that respirators should be worn at the site.

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  178. Gas prices have reached the ALL TIME highs of 1981 ...........that means gasoline prices have NEVER been higher,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Great job Bush!

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  179. BTW whenever oil and/or gas prices have risen 80% or more in one year there has always been a recession................now lets see gas has gone from about $2 to $3.50 in the last 6 months thats about a 175% increase in 6 months and is VERY indicative of a severe recession................Great job Bush you ruin everything you touch!

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  180. BTW whenever oil and/or gas prices have risen 80% or more in one year there has always been a recession................now lets see gas has gone from about $2 to $3.50 in the last 6 months thats about a 175% increase in 6 months and is VERY indicative of a severe recession................Great job Bush you ruin everything you touch!

    The last one never really ended, despite the pretty pretty numbers. That tells me the severity of this one is going to be mighty.

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  181. HEy, Clif, that poll at MSNBC was not official and has been FReeper heavily by hawking it on lefty blogs.

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  182. You guys were right Mike and Larry.


    The Reid and Pelosi are spineless, worthless wimps.

    They folded.


    They're worthless.

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  183. Jolly Roger said...
    BTW whenever oil and/or gas prices have risen 80% or more in one year there has always been a recession................now lets see gas has gone from about $2 to $3.50 in the last 6 months thats about a 175% increase in 6 months and is VERY indicative of a severe recession................Great job Bush you ruin everything you touch!

    The last one never really ended, despite the pretty pretty numbers. That tells me the severity of this one is going to be mighty."

    BTW that was supposed to read gas has gone up 75% in 6 months..............But your absolutely right about this recession being a mighty nasty one since we never really came out of the last one.............sure GWB engineered a phony franken-recovery with the war and tax cuts and the fed cutting interest rates to 1% and cranking up the printing presses and printing lots of money...................but despite all the sound and fury it signifies NOTHING since in real terms both the majority of the nation and the stock indices have LOST purchasing power over the last 7 years.

    What GWB did to make the nation APPEAR prosperous is akin to your neighbor taking out a second mortgage and maxing out all his credit cards to buy all kinds of fancy stuff to APPEAR rich and prosperous.

    NO ONE in HISTORY has EVER cut taxes in a time of war except GWB.................Once Bush's phony franken boon gives up the ghost the consequences of the coming recession will be dire.........particularly since the dollar is long over due to plummet.........when the economy tanks and there is no growth and the dolllar tanks because foreign nations stop funding our debts...........HOW will we by the oil and other things we need to survive and function???????????

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  184. Pelosi and her ilk sicken me................Waxman, Leahy and maybe Schumer and Webb are the only democrats in congress worth anything!

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  185. The spring housing market is turning out to be something of a dud, dashing hopes of a turnaround.

    The spring season typically sets the tone for the last half of the year. This year, that tone is pretty gloomy.

    More of the Bush economy.

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  186. Bush and his brownshirts are right about ONE thing..............that the Dems are inclined to surrender...........they proved that today................what they did is like punting the football on second down and saying theres always the next game.

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  187. Reid and Pelosi have fallen in love with Corporate dollars and out of love with doing the right thing.

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  188. Mike said...
    Pelosi and her ilk sicken me................Waxman, Leahy and maybe Schumer and Webb are the only democrats in congress worth anything!


    Schumer is the fund raiser for the DSCC. You might want to rethink this.

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  189. Many people don't realize that Audrey Hepburn survived World War II in the Nazi-occupied Netherlands. She spent her teenage years dancing to raise money for the anti-Nazi underground and suffering from malnutrition. Years later, she was offered the role of Anne Frank and declined, saying that she had lived through similar horrors and the role hit very close to home.

    There's a good reason she became a goodwill ambassador for UNICEF. It was the UN that delivered food to the Dutch at the end of World War II. Without it, Ms. Hepburn and thousands of others would have died of starvation.

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