Wednesday, July 05, 2006

The SECRET OF THE UNIVERSE

"Those who want the government to regulate matters of the mind and spirit are like men who are so afraid of being murdered that they commit suicide to avoid assassination." - Harry S Truman

Coulter is currently facing a legal investigation for voter fraud in Palm Beach, Florida. Coulter may have lied about her address on her voter registration there. Yet, she recently announced on Hannity & Colmes that she lives in New York. As Brad Blog has noted, that may open her up to charges of tax fraud, as well.



THE SECRET of THE UNIVERSE Check out: http://www.thesecret.tv/

Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love;
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.

You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.

Max Ehrmann, Desiderata, Copyright 1952.

Loud and Vexatious Person: Ann Coulter has a bad habit. And that habit, as mentioned before by the Rude Pundit (followed up by Raw Story), is that she appears to like to copy whole sentences from other sources without putting them in as quotes or even citing where she might have "paraphrased" from. You judge for yourself:

Here's Coulter from Chapter 1 of Godless: The massive Dickey-Lincoln Dam, a $227 million hydroelectric project proposed on upper St. John River in Maine, was halted by the discovery of the Furbish lousewort, a plant previously believed to be extinct.



KAREEM Abdul-Jabar at CEDAR-SINAI SPORTS SPECTACULAR fundraiser for Genetic Birth Defects . This picture taken by my son, who is a big fan of Abdul-Jabar.

1,104 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:30 PM

    Thank you Lydia for this beautiful post. I love the Desiderata, especially the part "Avoid loud and vexatious persons"

    I hope the people here can debate the issues.

    God Bless you,
    Max

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  2. Anonymous6:30 PM

    DITTO

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  3. Anonymous6:45 PM

    Happy 4th of July. God Bless America, and let's pray we are entering a new era without the evils of the bush administration.

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  4. The blog still won't publish comment meter, but you are free to post.

    Please keep some decorum Wufuss' Daddy.

    No nudity unless it's important to the dialogue.
    Thanks,
    xo,
    Lydia

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  5. The National Journal is reporting that Bush told the Special Prosecutor in the CIA leak case, that he personally directed Cheney to lead an effort against Joe Wilson.

    Bush also told the Prosecutor, that he directed Cheney to disclose highly classified intelligence information that would discredit Wilson.

    Bush claims he was unaware that Cheney told Scooter Libby to leak CIA Operative Valerie Plame's name.

    A senior government official said Bush told Cheney to " Get It Out", regarding information to hurt Joe Wilson.

    What a disgraceful "Compassionate Christian Conservative" Bush has become.

    Destroy at any cost.

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  6. Anonymous7:29 PM

    Wow great post Larry. Unbelievable.

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  7. Worf:

    Which is the better laptop. A Sony or Dell?

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  8. Hi Lydia:

    Thanks for sharing Max Ehrmann's Desiderata with us. That was amazing and so true. :D

    Also, isn't karma fascinating? Looks like it decided to have Ann
    'pay the piper,' and what possible pipers to pay. Wow, 'What a tangled web she weaved!'

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  9. Have a happy 4th of July every one.

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  10. Thanks Worf:

    I have an IBM now, but want a 2nd computer for an upcoming project.

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  11. Ever look at the site How to buy American.com?

    It has links to everything imaginable made in America.

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  12. Worf said:

    "Just let me know thats what the liberals in here want to do, and I'll move on to ThinkProg permanently."

    Sorry to speak of something that was discussed 2 or 3 days ago. I wasn't on here as it took place and saw my name mentioned so I commented.

    I didn't mean to get any of you upset. I just felt the need to comment.

    Anyway, I'm more of a Theocrat these days. I do not follow any "man" - I believe in following only the one True God/Jesus. Thus the feeling of "love" TT is uneasy about. Though I know he jests cynically.

    As for the girls of Coco Rio - I'd love to see a picture too and if it is a club...what kind of club is it? Etc.

    TT: No I don't play golf - I have no interest nor do I even understand you hidden inuendo. Guess you'll have to swing at that one alone. LOL.

    As for garden hoses - My french maid takes care of all of that for me. Booyaah! HAHAHA. :D

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  13. I have a midterm to study for. See you all later. Be safe tomorrow.

    Later,
    Rene

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  14. In other words, Bush is worse than what he says about the NY Times.

    A leaker and a traitor, putting a CIA operatives life in danger, because her husband told the truth.

    How far down will this criminal go?

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  15. If the story is true about making a deal with Al-Qaeda to trade Zarqawi for Bin Laden, that alone should bring him down, much less ordering the attacki on Wilson.

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  16. Bush will have to blame someone. He has never admitted any wrongs.

    It is probably time for another Bin Laden video. That will make America forget treason.

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  17. Bush is going to have to pull something to get the heat off of him.

    Maybe he will go after Fitzgerald.

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  18. On Oct. 29, 2004, just four days before the U.S. presidential election, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin-Laden released a videotape denouncing George W. Bush. Some Bush supporters quickly spun the diatribe as “Osama’s endorsement of John Kerry.” But behind the walls of the CIA, analysts had concluded the opposite: that bin-Laden was trying to help Bush gain a second term.

    “Their [the CIA’s] assessments, at day’s end, are a distillate of the kind of secret, internal conversations that the American public [was] not sanctioned to hear: strategic analysis. Today’s conclusion: bin-Laden’s message was clearly designed to assist the President’s reelection.

    “At the five o’clock meeting, [deputy CIA director] John McLaughlin opened the issue with the consensus view: ‘Bin-Laden certainly did a nice favor today for the President.’”

    McLaughlin’s comment drew nods from CIA officers at the table. Jami Miscik, CIA deputy associate director for intelligence, suggested that the al-Qaeda founder may have come to Bush’s aid because bin-Laden felt threatened by the rise in Iraq of Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi; bin-Laden might have thought his leadership would be diminished if Bush lost the White House and their “eye-to-eye struggle” ended.

    http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/070306.html

    Bush and bin laden ...the best thing that happened to each other...

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  19. Still can't republish on front page, Okay who put my name in, Johnny Moo Moo?

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  20. Anonymous7:37 AM

    Who is Wufuss' Daddy? Does anyone want to take a vote?

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  21. Anonymous8:26 AM

    Happy 4th of July. America the BEAUTIFUL
    The Republicans can't win in November.

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  22. Anonymous8:29 AM

    WORF SAID:

    What amazes me is so many people don't notice that Bin Laden releases videos whenever Bush is in trouble.

    EXACTLY! Bin Laden is a tool for Bush. IF he's still alive. It could be a doctored tape and they keep bringing him out (even though he's dead) whenever they want to scare people or remind them of the "war on terror."

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  23. Anonymous9:22 AM

    July 04, 2006

    A World Without America

    By Peter Brookes

    For all the worldwide whining and bellyaching about the United States, today - America's 230th birthday - provides an opportune time for them to consider for just a moment what the world might be like without good ol' Uncle Sam.

    The picture isn't pretty. Absent U.S. leadership, diplomatic influence, military might, economic power and unprecedented generosity, life aboard planet earth would likely be pretty grim, indeed. Set aside the differences America made last century - just imagine a world where this country had vanished on Jan. 1, 2001.

    On security, the United States is the global balance of power. While it's not our preference, we are the world's "cop on the beat," providing critical stability in some of the planet's toughest neighborhoods.

    Without the U.S. "Globo-cop," rivals India and Pakistan might well find cause to unleash the dogs of war in South Asia - undoubtedly leading to history's first nuclear (weapons) exchange. Talk about Fourth of July fireworks . . .

    In Afghanistan, al Qaeda would still be an honored guest, scheming over a global caliphate stretching from Spain to Indonesia. It wouldn't be sending fighters to Iraq; instead, Osama's gang would be fighting them tooth and nail from Saudi Arabia to "Eurabia."

    In Asia, China would be the "Middle Kingdom," gobbling up democratic Taiwan and compelling pacifist Japan (reluctantly) to join the nuclear weapons club. The Koreas might fight another horrific war, resulting in millions of deaths.

    A resurgent Russia, meanwhile, would be breathing down the neck of its "near abroad" neighbors. Forget the democratic revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia, Comrade! In Europe, they'd be taking orders from Paris or Berlin - if those rivals weren't at each other's throats again.

    In Africa, Liberia would still be under Charles Taylor's sway, and Sudan would have no peace agreement.

    And what other nation could or would provide freedom of the seas for commerce, including the shipment of oil and gas - all free of charge?

    Weapons of mass destruction would be everywhere. North Korea would be brandishing a solid nuclear arsenal. Libya would not have given up its weapons, and Pakistan's prodigious proliferator, A.Q. Khan, would still be going door to door, hawking his nuclear wares.

    Also missing would be other gifts from "Uncle Sugar" - starting with 22 percent of the U.N. budget. That includes half the operations of the World Food Program, which feeds over 100 million in 81 countries.

    Gone would be 17 percent of UNICEF's costs to feed, vaccinate, educate and protect children in 157 countries - and 31 percent of the budget of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, which assists more than 19 million refugees across the globe.

    In 2005, Washington dispensed $28 billion in foreign aid, more than double the amount of the next highest donor (Japan), contributing nearly 26 percent of all official development assistance from the large industrialized countries.

    Moreover, President Bush's five-year $15 billion commitment under the Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief is the largest commitment by a single nation toward an international health initiative - ever - working in over 100 (mostly African) countries.

    The United States is the world's economic engine. We not only have the largest economy, we spend 40 percent of the world's budget on R&D, driving mind-boggling innovation in areas like information technology, defense and medicine.

    We're the world's ATM, too, providing 17 percent of the International Monetary Fund's resources for nations in fiscal crisis, and funding 13 percent of World Bank programs that dole out billions in development assistance to needy countries.

    And what does Uncle Sam get in return? Mostly grief, especially from all the ungrateful freeloaders who benefit tremendously from the global "public goods" we so selflessly provide with our time, effort, blood and treasure. How easily - and conveniently - they forget . . . unless they need help, of course.

    But let us never forget, especially today, that despite the name-calling, the jeers, the petty jealousies, we're the envy of the world - and rightfully so.

    The fact is that no matter what anyone says: No country has given so much to so many so often - while asking for so little in return - for so little gratitude than this great country of ours. So Happy birthday, America! Stand tall and proud - you've earned it.

    Peter Brookes is a columnist for The New York Post , a Heritage Foundation senior fellow and author of "A Devil's Triangle: Terrorism, WMD and Rogue States."
    Page Printed from: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/07/a_world_without_america.html at July 04, 2006 - 11:16:27 AM CDT

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  24. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden

    By MARK MAZZETTI, The New York Times

    WASHINGTON (July 4) - The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday.

    The unit, known as Alec Station, was disbanded late last year and its analysts reassigned within the C.I.A. Counterterrorist Center, the officials said.

    The decision is a milestone for the agency, which formed the unit before Osama bin Laden became a household name and bolstered its ranks after the Sept. 11 attacks, when President Bush pledged to bring Mr. bin Laden to justice "dead or alive."


    "The efforts to find Osama bin Laden are as strong as ever," said Jennifer Millerwise Dyck, a C.I.A. spokeswoman. "This is an agile agency, and the decision was made to ensure greater reach and focus."

    The decision to close the unit was first reported Monday by National Public Radio.

    Michael Scheuer, a former senior C.I.A. official who was the first head of the unit, said the move reflected a view within the agency that Mr. bin Laden was no longer the threat he once was.

    Mr. Scheuer said that view was mistaken.

    "This will clearly denigrate our operations against Al Qaeda," he said. "These days at the agency, bin Laden and Al Qaeda appear to be treated merely as first among equals."

    In recent years, the war in Iraq has stretched the resources of the intelligence agencies and the Pentagon, generating new priorities for American officials. For instance, much of the military's counterterrorism units, like the Army's Delta Force, had been redirected from the hunt for Mr. bin Laden to the search for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed last month in Iraq.

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  26. So let me see here the desire to capture or kill Bin Laden is "STILL" as great as ever.................and yet we puled most of our resources both intelligence and military out of Afghanistan to to invade Iraq.......we disbanded the unit whose sole purpose was to hunt for Osama.....and our Illusttrious president who portrays him self as a warrior or crusader against terrorism and who has staked and defined his entire presidency on being a war president fighting terorism who said he wanted Osama "Dead or alive" as he was the one who attacked us on 9/11 more recently said "Osama, I dont think much about him"


    Yeah looks like the Bush Administrations desire to capture or kill Bin Laden is as great as ever translation= there never was a desire to catch or kill him they are allies they are in league, Bush trots out Bin Laden as the Bogey man when ever his popularity goes down to instill fear in people, 9/11 was the great enabler for this Tyrant and his band of Nazi's. It was a win win for both Bush and Bin Laden.

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  27. Hell bin Laden is at Crawford and Al Zawahri is hiding in dead eye's secret undisclosed location...both making videos for bush's support..so why waste money for finding them...after all is said and done it is really about the money with this crop of blithering fooles....

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  28. Given the official response is that there are still plenty of officials responsible to tracking bin Laden and that the terrorist remains a "high priority."

    I’m curious, if a President Kerry had allowed the CIA to disband the intelligence unit tasked with hunting bin Laden, would conservatives just shrug their shoulders?

    Or would Rush drop the viagra and Ann stop throwing up to screech like banshees again...while the reichwingnut machine call Kerry a traitor...where are they now?

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  29. Zarqawi's wife said the Bush administration, made a deal with
    Al-Qaeda to trade Zarqawi's location for not pursuing Bin Laden.

    Now the unit in charge of finding Bin Laden has been closed down.

    Looks like the "Trade" of a lifetime is turning into the "Treason of the Century".

    Bush is a "Compassionate Conservative Traitor".

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  30. I thought the same thing Larry, Bush and his thugs should think twice before the word treason comes out of their mouth, all they have to do if they want to see a traitor is look in the mirror, how many times have these guys lied and committed treason now......and those are only the times we know about and are aware of.

    BTW how much do you guys wanna bet Troll Tex, FF and Anonymous are goosestepping around the flag and chanting and ranting about their patriotism and bravery..................these chicken hawks are obsesseed with following the letter of the law instead of the spirit............to them the symbol is more important and held in more reverance than what it is meant to symbolize, hence the flag a mere piece of cloth is deemed more important and more sacred than the freedom it is meant to symbolize.

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  31. BTW Have a great 4th of July Larry, Lydia, Worf, Clif, Carl, Rene, James etc.....

    BTW James good to hear from you again.

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  32. Today North Korea fired 6 misiles, over the past few years they have claimed and threatened that they have nuclear capabilities and can even strike the Contiental USA, and what does the Bush Administration do....ignore them and focus on invading all the oil rich Countries they dont like in the Middle East, North Korea allready has nuclear weapons but the Bush Administration and our resident Neo Con Troll Tex claim that Iran a country that does not have nuclear capabilty and is years and possibly decades away from aquiring long range inter continental nuclear capabilities is "OUR GRAVEST THREAT".

    What is The Neo Con solution/response to a nuclear North Korea, "lets just ignore them or nuke em, cause they dont have any oil or natural gas that we want" right troll tex.......
    On our day of Independence North Korea fires 6 missiles and where is George Bush.........probably calling the press traitors when he's not using them to leak classified info to discredit his opponents, or maybe clearing brush or barbacuing now that he's back from graceland.......... although he could be plotting where to move his illegal prisons to, and how to circumvent the Geneva Convention and imprison people without fair trial and hold them indefinately and torture them despite the Supreme Court putting the little dictator in his place.......but he probably leaves that for smarter people than him although with his administration thats not saying much right Troll Tex??????

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  33. Hey Volt how come it took you guys 6 years to even consider addressing North Korea and sending Patriot missiles do Japan is a lame response, what about South Korea and other Countries in the region.............. thats just like the Bush Administration only taking care of and focusing on the elite or big players the Bush Administration has ignored North korea for 6 years, why, because they have no oil opr natural gas to enrich the big oil companies and the Administration, see the military is a tool to you guys you use it to enrich yourselves and your cronnies despite the cost to our country in both lives, dollars/defiicits and to the strength of our military with is stretched too thin by Bush's stupid wars.

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  34. see Volt why do you think North Korea is tweaking our nose and talking smack........I'll tell you why because the whole world knows our military is over extended because of Bush's illegal corrupt invasion of Iraq and he sees iran talking tough to Bush and Chavez talking smack and tweaking Bush's nose and he knows now is his opportunity to act up and do as he pleases, particularly since China is secretly egging them on because they know Bush is an arrogant fool who will squander and waste our Military might fighting senseless unwinable wars.

    Its just like the Bully that cant beat up everyone in the room, the people finally realized the bully has bit off more than he can chew and are talking smack when he isnt looking and throwing food at the bully when he isnt looking, and eventually more and more people become emboldened once others act out and get away with it.

    See George Bush has destroyed our standing and image in the world as well as our ability to respond militarily to crisis's and emergencies.

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  35. How bout diplomacy volt, I know its a foreign concept to you guys but thats what reasonable people do before going to war or imposing economic sanctions, is it so unreasonable to at least listen to what that nut has to say?

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  36. They got light water reactor from ther US not usable for making nuclear weapons with out much technical and much more equipment they do not have...they got their nukes from the same place as Iran...from Bush's ally Pakistan....

    But as for the north Korean missles...it ain't as bad as some make it...the missle blew up less than a minute from take off...and thery do not have guidence figured out at all..the other five they fired were basically SCUD missles based weapons they got from the USSR...and those are no better than the ones Saddam had in 1991....

    The story is being Hyped by the US government..much more than the Northg Koreans actual abilities....just as they are doing in Iran...and they did with Iraq

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  37. South Korea says North's long-range missile failed



    SEOUL, July 5 — North Korea's firing of missiles on Wednesday was "unwise" and the launch of its long-range Taepodong-2 missile ended in failure, a South Korean security official said.


    http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusintl/reuters07-04-183318.asp?reg=pacrim&vts=7420061924

    Thus they can't actually launch the missle...and that is with out a proven guidence system. Otherwise this missle is no better than the scuds they already have it just flies further with no control...however the scuds flew further today.....and the North Koreans DO NOT have the capability to build a nuke that could survive a missle launch...with out that ability...the have a big rocket and nothing to put on it....

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  38. Worfeus even if the missle would fly that far...with out a good guidance program and the ability to create nuclear weapontry that could survive the stresses of a rocket launch it is a big fire cracker......and it just fizzled this time.

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  39. If the reichwingnut chicken hawks had spent time in uniform they would have learned some things like ...weapons systems that are complex are not easily made and unreliable, they also would learn that it takes more than the raw componants of big rocket and nuclear bomb to make a nuclear missle capabile of delivbery over 6000 miles away...but they would prefer getting their truth from other higher paid chicken-hawks who do not know either....

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  40. The military leadership is getting fed up with bush and especially Dummy Rummy who does not really know much about theater level warfare..and what to do to plan for both a complete victory and what to do afterwords...like plan for the peace...they HATE that word PEACE

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  41. I don't think Bush is going to do anything about Korea except run his mouth.

    China supports Korea, and Bush is selling America in huge hunks to China, so why would he mess up a good thing for himself and the rich right-wing.

    Bush can't run a war against a country loike Iraq, that had very little weapons, and a worthless and corrupt army, how could he fight Korea and/or China.

    Bush would rather attack Syria next so he could get their oil and Haliburton could rape Billions of more US Tax Dollars to supposedly rebuild it.

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  42. I watched CNN this morning for an hour and never saw anything about it.

    I first heard it on Fox as I was scanning the channels.

    I have seen several newspaper articles on it. Maybe it will get press after the holiday.

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  43. Okay, so ... North Korea test fires four missiles, one of which was the long-range Taepodong-2. The Taepodong-2 failed about thirty seconds after lift-off.

    Press reports frequently claim that the Taepodong-2 is capable of hitting the United States. The fine print is important, though. As the Times notes in their dispatch today: the Taepodong-2 "is thought to be potentially capable of reaching United States territory in Alaska, if North Korea perfects the technology. But that ability has never been demonstrated in a test. (emphasis added)"

    It's a serious issue that bears watching. But also note that UN Ambassador John Bolton is the lead-milker of this story.

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/


    If they could get it to fly it could make it to the out lying islands of Alaska....yea that is worth blowing up the world georgie boy....

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  44. Worf said "You know Larry, that story about Zarquawis wife I think is going to be a bombshell."

    yeah but that story about the Cia unit that's sole purpose was to catch Bin Laden being disbanded sure adds credibility, that speaks volumes.

    The fact that all of the sudden all this info is coming to light also speaks volumes it says our military and government are getting sick and tired of the Bush Administrations corupt inept policies, Bush and Rummy are incompetent lying fools and our military and government agents who are good people are sick of suffering from these fools incompetence and the consequences to our country from that incompetence.

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  45. Bush and sweet little Condi will be running their mouths about Korea for a couple of weeks, until his Bin Laden trade dies down and the press will harp about Korea.

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  46. John Roberts was on CNN earlier saying sources at White House said the Korea launch wasn't that big of a deal.

    They better hope Bush and Rove don't hear that, they will verbally make it a big deal.

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  47. larry said "Bush would rather attack Syria next so he could get their oil and Haliburton could rape Billions of more US Tax Dollars to supposedly rebuild it."

    Larry they definately want to topple the unfriendly regimes in iran and Iraq to open those countries up to American Oil Companies not just Halliburton, that havent been welcome there in decades, see most of the major American oil companies like Exxon Mobil and all the others have declining or stagnating reserves if American oil companies can just help the National oil companies develop their Own reserves they will make Billions but if these companies privatize and our American companies are able to buy portions of them and sigificantly add to and increase their reserves they could possibly make trillions and shareholder value will go up exponentially with the price of oil rising like it is.

    See The Bush Administration is in bed with the oil companies and they want to topple those USA hostile governments to gain access to either developing or buying those huge relatively undeveloped oil and natural gas reserves in Iran and Iraq, hence the push to invade both countries, The Bush Administration wants to enrich both themselves and their Oil Industry cronnies who are one of their largest campaign contributors and lobbyists.

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  48. Isn't it pathetic. The past 5 years have all been about Big Oil and money for Bush.

    It certainly hasn't been about people.

    Those who control Middle East oil, control the world.

    Emperor George.

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  49. Bush wont do anything about North Korea, he'll shoot off his mouth a little with the tough talk then he'll cry to China to try and talk to them and impose sanctions.....he's too dumb to know China was probably egging them on in the first place.

    Bush could care less about North Korea, him and Cheney might try to use this to inspire fear in the American people to gain support for their agenda, but Bush is only concerned about invading countries with lots of oil and natural gas that can enrich him and his cronnies, he wont use the molitary on North Korea, to him the military is a tool for enriching his elite cronnies and seizing more power.

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  50. If the Republicans keep control of Congress after November, Bush will finish out his last 2 years on a rampage.

    He will go after any weak country that has monetary value, and he will go after the middle class to drive them to the lower class.

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  51. Wouldn’t you like to know where Dick Cheney puts his money? Then you’d know whether his “deficits don’t matter” claim is just baloney or not.

    Well, as it turns out, Kiplinger Magazine ran an article based on Cheney’s financial disclosure statement and, sure enough, found out that the VP is lying to the American people for the umpteenth time. Deficits do matter and Cheney has invested his money accordingly.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13851.htm

    The article is called “Cheney’s betting on bad news” and provides an account of where Cheney has socked away more than $25 million. While the figures may be estimates, the investments are not. According to Tom Blackburn of the Palm Beach Post, Cheney has invested heavily in “a fund that specializes in short-term municipal bonds, a tax-exempt money market fund and an inflation protected securities fund. The first two hold up if interest rates rise with inflation. The third is protected against inflation.”

    Cheney has dumped another (estimated) $10 to $25 million in a European bond fund which tells us that he is counting on a steadily weakening dollar. So, while working class Americans are loosing ground to inflation and rising energy costs, Darth Cheney will be enhancing his wealth in “Old Europe”. As Blackburn sagely notes, “Not all ‘bad news’ is bad for everybody.”

    And there is more....

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  52. This should put to rest once and for all the foolish notion that the “Bush Economic Plan” is anything more than a scam aimed at looting the public till. The whole deal is intended to shift the nation's wealth from one class to another. It’s also clear that Bush-Cheney couldn’t have carried this off without the tacit approval of the thieves at the Federal Reserve who engineered the low-interest rate boondoggle to put the American people to sleep while they picked their pockets.

    Reasonable people can dispute that Bush is “intentionally” skewering the dollar with his lavish tax cuts, but how does that explain Cheney’s portfolio?

    It doesn’t. And, one thing we can say with metaphysical certainty is that the miserly Cheney would never plunk his money into an investment that wasn’t a sure thing. If Cheney is counting on the dollar tanking and interest rates going up, then, by Gawd, that’s what’ll happen.

    The Bush-Cheney team has racked up another $3 trillion in debt in just 6 years. The US national debt now stands at $8.4 trillion dollars while the trade deficit has ballooned to $800 billion nearly 7% of GDP.

    This is lunacy. No country, however powerful, can maintain these staggering numbers. The country is in hock up to its neck and has to borrow $2.5 billion per day just to stay above water. Presently, the Fed is expanding the money supply and buying back its own treasuries to hide the hemorrhaging from the public. Its utter madness.

    Last month the trade deficit climbed to $70 billion. More importantly, foreign central banks only purchased a meager $47 billion in treasuries to shore up our ravenous appetite for cheap junk from China.

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  53. Do the math! They're not investing in America anymore. They are decreasing their stockpiles of dollars. We’re sinking fast and Cheney and his pals are manning the lifeboats while the public is diverted with gay marriage amendments and “American Celebrity”.

    The American manufacturing sector has been hollowed out by cutthroat corporations who’ve abandoned their country to make a fast-buck in China or Mexico. The $3 trillion housing (equity) bubble is quickly loosing air while the anemic dollar continues to sag. All the signs indicate that the economy is slowing at the same time that energy prices continue to rise.

    This is the onset of stagflation; the dreaded combo of a slowing economy and inflation.

    Did Americans really think they'd be spared the same type of economic colonization that has been applied throughout the developing world under the rubric of "neoliberalism"?

    Well, think again. The American economy is barrel-rolling towards earth and there are only enough parachutes for Cheney and the gang.

    The country has lost 3 million jobs from outsourcing since Bush took office; more than 200,000 of those are the high-paying, high-tech jobs that are the life's-blood of every economy.

    Consider this from the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) June edition of Foreign Affairs, the Bible of globalists and plutocrats:

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  54. “Between 2000 and 2003 alone, foreign firms built 60,000manufacturing plants in China. European chemical companies, Japanese carmakers, and US industrial conglomerates are all building factories in China to supply export markets around the world. Similarly, banks, insurance companies, professional-service firms, and IT companies are building R&D and service centers in India to support employees, customers, and production worldwide.” (“The Globally integrated Enterprise” Samuel Palmisano, Foreign Affairs page 130)

    “60,000manufacturing plants” in 3 years?!?

    “Banks, insurance companies, professional-service firms, and IT companies”?

    No job is safe. American elites and corporate tycoons are loading the boats and heading for foreign shores. The only thing they’re leaving behind is the insurmountable debt that will be shackled to our children into perpetuity and the carefully arranged levers of a modern police-surveillance state.

    Welcome to Bush’s 21st Century gulag; third world luxury in a Guantanamo-type setting.

    Take another look at Cheney’s investment strategy; it tells the whole ugly story. Interest rates are going up, the middle class is going down, and the poor dollar is headed for the dumpster. The country is not simply teetering on the brink of financial collapse; it is being thrust headfirst by the blackguards in office and their satrapies at Federal Reserve.

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  55. Great post Cliff:

    Its to bad the press doesn't report on the investment trail of Bush and Cheney.

    Its obvious they won't invest in the very country, they are driving into the economic sewer.

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  56. I really hope the Dems take back congress Larry, but your right, if they dont things will be ugly, did you see how most of the repugs just blindly support Bush, Frist and many of the congressman are basically saying they will rubberstamp anything he will do.

    I saw Bill Bennett and others on the Sunday talk shows speaking the other day and it was scary just hearing them parrot the Neo Con rhetoric that "we need to fight them over there instead of over here" and "the NY Times and the media are traitors and should be charged with Treason.

    That thinking is so sick, twisted and riddiculous that I would be shocked hearing it from an uneducated redneck in the Alabama swamps, but hearing that rhetoric come from our elected leaders is downright scary and shocking.

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  57. The Right-Wingers view average Americans as uneducated rednecks from the Alabama swamps.

    Look how they have scared and bamboozled most Americans for many years.

    Why wouldn't they continue the same tired old garbage. It always worked before.

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  58. Clif those were great posts, another thing that lends credence to what you are saying is the fact that the Federal Reserve stopped reporting M3, now why would a guy who says he believes in transparency and openess just up and stop reporting M3, the only reason is he does not want the public to know he is increasing the money supply to help fund our deficit and defend the dollar.

    I asked myself last week why Bernanke only raised the the Fed Funds Rate 1/4 point instead of the half point the market seemed to want to conclude that the rate increase were over or real close to being over, and the conclusion I came to is Bernanke is buying time, he's defending the dollar with his 1/4 point increases into perpetuity, see him and Greenspan both know that with the real level of inflation thats occuring (not the phony inflation number being reported due to hedonics) our creditors namely Japan and China who are financing our deficit would dump the dollar real quick if they were not receiving steadily increasing compensation in the form of rising interest rates. But like Cheney Bernanke also knows that when he stops raising interest rates look out below for the dollar. see thats why M3 is not being reported when the dollar starts to drop and China and Japan dump their dollar denominated assets the Fed will have to print lots and lots of money to cover our debts and they dont want the public to be aware of how fast the money supply is increasing to finance those debts because there would be a panic and economic collapse, but without reporting M3 the coming inflation then collapse will be harder to see for the masses and the elite will be able to get out in time and ammas fortunes.

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  59. The only thing the Right-Wing have going for them is they get a forum and yell louder, and longer than those reasonable people on the other side.

    After so long, their loudness wins out on interviews because they take all the time spewing attacks, instead of defending the policies of those who pay their salaries.

    The Republican "Right" doesn't have to know anything.

    If they can talk louder and longer, and fill their rhetoric with attacks, theirs is the voice that is heard.

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  60. Thats exactly right Larry, thats all blow hards like Coulter or Rush do, they try and talk over people and attack them personally, they dont debate real issues, its all unsubstantiated slander and personal attacks.

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  61. Isn't it comforting to know our Congress and our TV screens are filled with Patriots.

    If you think about it, so are many blogs.

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  62. After reading those Mark Twain quotes, I have to confess, I have misjudged Bush and Condi for the past 5 years.

    Maybe they aren't just traitors. I think they are something even more spectacular.

    Bush and Condi are real live Patriots.

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  63. I liked the last quote best of all.

    Doesn't that fully describe Bush?

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  64. The big thing now is Patriotism.

    Patriotism today is not the same as it was 10 years ago.

    Today, Patriotism is phony, something used to often by the Bush boys to make people look like traitors if they disagree.

    There are also many singers and those making movies who have patriotic songs and films, to make money on this "Corporate Patriotism".

    Those aforementioned politicians and entertainers are "True Modern Day Patriots".

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  65. Three years into an occupation of Iraq replete with so-called milestones, turning points and individual events hailed as “sea changes” that would “break the back” of the insurgency, a different type of incident received an intense, if ephemeral, amount of attention. A local human rights worker and aspiring journalist in the western Iraqi town of Haditha filmed the aftermath of the massacre of 24 Iraqi civilians. The video made its way to an Iraqi working for Time magazine, and the story was finally publicized months later. The Haditha massacre was compared to the Vietnam War’s My Lai massacre, and like the well-publicized and embarrassing Abu Ghraib scandal two years earlier, the attention it received made it seem as if it were a horrible aberration perpetrated by a few bad apples who might have overreacted to the stress they endured as occupiers.

    http://www.truthdig.com/dig/print/20060627_occupation_iraq_hearts_minds/

    http://www.truthdig.com/dig/print/20060627_
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    The Occupation of Iraqi Hearts and Minds

    This story is by a journalist who could go with the US military because he is an american journalist but can pass as Iraqi because his father was...

    Definately worth the read to understand what the normal Iraqi got from Bush's "liberation"

    And freedom is not involved as the story illustrates...

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  66. The last one does sound like Bush and what he says and does.

    He must be convincing himself this war is just, although his definition of just is totally different from someone who aren't reaping wealth from the debacle.

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  67. I agree the repugs turned the word patriot into a dirty word, just like they did with the word liberal.

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  68. I never really associated the word patriotism with hitler and the Nazi's until Bush rose to power. Latelely patriotism has a dark and sinister connotation because of these Neo Con Thugs.

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  69. Anonymous10:57 PM

    Yes Patriotism under the Bush regime has a scary connotation.

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  70. Bush and his tag-along Condi love playing follow the leader to Cheney and Rove.

    Bush and his tag-along go round and round the chairs, till the music stops, only Rove always makes sure it stops when they are in front of 2 empty chairs.

    As Bush's sins continue to find him out, tag-along Condi will slowly back away from the musical chairs, while Georgy continues to play follow the leader.

    Our country is led by a real band of Patriots.

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  71. Some principles Worfeus like The Golden Rule are Timeless!

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  72. unfortunately There will always be greedy power hungry men trying to seize more money and power, it happened thousands of years ago and it will probablt be happening thousands of years from now if Bush and his band of fools dont start WW3 and blow up our planet in a nuclear holocaust.

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  73. The key is for the Democrats to take back congress so they can start the hearings to investigate what is going on and undo all the damage.

    I'm willing to bet that all the lies Bush has been caught in and all the corumpt policies and scandals and attrocities committed are only the tip of the iceberg, I shudder to think what is going on that we dont actually know about.

    Look at the domestic phone and finacial spying scandals and how bush is trying to keep it secret from the public and congress and how he tries to intimidate the media by labeling it treasonous, look at the rumors of the deal with Bin Laden and the disbanding of the Cia group whose job it was to catch him......and consider what Lydia said about that Ranger who said the molitary was clearing landing strips in Afghanistan "BEFORE" 9/11, now think about that one for a minute and tell me what comes to mind, then factor in how the Bush Administration hit the ground running immediately with the Patriot Act and other types of legislation as well as the push to invade iraq immediately like they had this planned for years.

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  74. I thought the same thing Larry, Bush and his thugs should think twice before the word treason comes out of their mouth, all they have to do if they want to see a traitor is look in the mirror, how many times have these guys lied and committed treason now......and those are only the times we know about and are aware of.

    BTW how much do you guys wanna bet Troll Tex, FF and Anonymous are goosestepping around the flag and chanting and ranting about their patriotism and bravery..................these chicken hawks are obsesseed with following the letter of the law instead of the spirit............to them the symbol is more important and held in more reverance than what it is meant to symbolize, hence the flag a mere piece of cloth is deemed more important and more sacred than the freedom it is meant to symbolize.

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  75. Bush will go down as the worst president ever..and he will be viewed as worse than the repugs view Jimmy Carter today.....

    he bogged us down in a war in Iraq which is slowly spinning out of control more and more each day....

    His economic policies have driven the federal government to the brink of insolvency..aka Germany in the early 1920's....

    His foreign policy is simply broken..and he has no idea what to do about it except stay the course...IE same stupid discredited ideas getting more and more people killed and injured....

    He has simply been incompetent about catching Bin Laden...and actually securing the country..especially the borders and ports...

    He is pushing for the same in Iran..a country with three times the population...a much larger military and no sanctions that have held the Iranians back for over a decade before we invade....only the military brass of the pentagon has stopped bush from using nuclear weapons in a "attack" mode..which he claims is necessary if the Iranians do not do as we tell them to....

    The military is pushed to the limit both inm troops and equipment...in some ways in worse shape than it was after Vietnam.....

    And with the irresponsible fiscal policies there is no funds available to revamp the military equipment worn out or destroyed in Iraq...

    The worst is still to come ...

    The trade deficits and foreign debt hangs like a guillotine over the American economy with much outstanding debt which if called will cause Bernanke to print dollars like Germany did in the 1920 which will have the same effect...except oil was not priced in deutschmarks, and if the feds print money to cover the debt oil will no longer be priced in dollars either....but the prices for the US citizen will rise as inflation heats up to keep up with the money supply

    No wonder dead eye has invested the way he has...he is helping steer the economy into the coming train wreck we all are going to be caught in....

    And dead eye knows that history will blame Bush not him...thus he can laugh all the way to the bank...

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  76. Anonymous7:19 AM

    Worf said: "If that turns out to be provable, then I don't see how he can stay in office."

    Worf, is that your mantra? I mean everyday, there's something in the news that makes you predict the fall of Bush, and you are ALWAYS wrong.

    Ken Lay just died, let's see you spin this into another one of your "end of Bush" fantasies. Talk about a "Johnny One Note," (no reference to Johnny Moo Moo).

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  77. Anonymous7:29 AM

    Worf, do you still think Bush is going to pardon lay? Maybe posthumously?

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  78. Anonymous7:34 AM

    Clintons started all this by GIVING away our hard-earned missile and reactor technology to China and they gave it to Korea, and Korea gave it to Iran.

    Typical Libs; they make a mess and want the Republicans to clean it up.

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  79. Troll tex said "Typical Libs; they make a mess and want the Republicans to clean it up."

    HAHAHAHAHAHA your a funny guy Troll Tex, yeah its the liberals that make a mess, your boy Bush's whole presidency has been one huge mess and failure. He will go down in history as the worst president and the biggest failure we have EVER had. He is an utter failure both as a president and as a person.

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  80. Today North Korea fired 6 misiles, over the past few years they have claimed and threatened that they have nuclear capabilities and can even strike the Contiental USA, and what does the Bush Administration do....ignore them and focus on invading all the oil rich Countries they dont like in the Middle East, North Korea allready has nuclear weapons but the Bush Administration and our resident Neo Con Troll Tex claim that Iran a country that does not have nuclear capabilty and is years and possibly decades away from aquiring long range inter continental nuclear capabilities is "OUR GRAVEST THREAT".

    What is The Neo Con solution/response to a nuclear North Korea, "lets just ignore them or nuke em, cause they dont have any oil or natural gas that we want" right troll tex.......
    On our day of Independence North Korea fires 6 missiles and where is George Bush.........probably calling the press traitors when he's not using them to leak classified info to discredit his opponents, or maybe clearing brush or barbacuing now that he's back from graceland.......... although he could be plotting where to move his illegal prisons to, and how to circumvent the Geneva Convention and imprison people without fair trial and hold them indefinately and torture them despite the Supreme Court putting the little dictator in his place.......but he probably leaves that for smarter people than him although with his administration thats not saying much right Troll Tex??????

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  81. Anonymous8:15 AM

    Mike said: "He will go down in history as the worst president and the biggest failure we have EVER had. He is an utter failure both as a president and as a person."

    They said the same thing about Truman during his term as well. History remembers him quite well.

    What will histiry remember Clinton for? A blow job. Sad, pathetic Libs.

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  82. Anonymous8:20 AM

    Mike, you are ranting incoherently. What is your point?

    N. Korea is a failed society, and Bush will not negotiate with nuclear blackmailers. Clinton wanted two party talks, Bush wants six party talks, which is a far, far better appoach.

    Who gave them light-water reactor technology? Clonton.

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  84. Your the incoherent partisan Troll Tex, how much is the Bush Admin paying you to defend them??

    Thats rich that Bush wont negotiate with nuclear blackmailers, when he is one himself, him and Cheney have implied and threatened they may nuke Iran if Iran doesnt do what THEY want, maybe simple simon's like you dont consider that nuclear blackmail Troll Tex, but most people with a brain and capable of independent thought would.

    And as for your holier than thou obsession with Clinton's blow job, thats just sour grapes for you repugs because the only way little trolls like you and Rove and Dead Eye Dick can get one is to walk into a brothel with a $500 bill on your forehead.Answer me this smart guy which is worse getting a blow job or lying us into a senseless war where over 100,000 have died. THATS TREASONOUS foolish texan.

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  85. Troll Tex said "Who gave them light-water reactor technology? Clonton."

    your pulling the bait and switch again Troll Tex trying to deceive people, reactor technology is a far cry from nuclear weapons Troll Tex.

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  86. Anonymous8:43 AM

    Mike wrote: "And as for your holier than thou obsession with Clinton's blow job..."

    I guess that's my Lydia saw fit to mention the Clinton blow job in her last blog entry.

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  87. And as for your failed societies Troll Tex, if that really is the case arent those the ones we need to be the most carefull of, but Bush seems inclined to label any society that doesnt bow to him an axis of evil or failed society, your evil emperor wants to start WW3 to hold onto his power and he makes that clearer every day.

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  88. yeah she mentioned it to illustrate your hippocrissy on many levels, the first being you guys claim it was harmful to children yet You publicized it endlessly the second being lying a country into war and having the blood of 100,000 on your hands is far worse than a little semen on a dress......at least for most decent people who are smart enough to see which is worse, but again Troll Tex you failed to answer my question as to which is worse.........................maybe you really arent smart enough to follow the thread and pay attention but still you really should seek treatment for your ADHD.....maybe it will help a little TROLL TEX.

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  89. Anonymous8:53 AM

    Mike wrote: "your evil emperor wants to start WW3..."

    So the actions in response to the sabre rattling from a country that has nuclear bombs are designed to start WWIII?

    Mike, you need to stop contradicting yourself. What do you think we should do? Nothing?

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  90. Anonymous8:57 AM

    Worf wrote: "GOD IT WAS NICE YESTERDAY WITH THE DIMWIT TROLLS ON VACTATION."

    Translation: I can't handle opposing arguments. I'd prefer to preach to the choir.

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  91. I was talking in general ie globally troll tex, not specifically to North Korea, there you go again trying to define my aruments for me.

    And Troll Tex you dont argue, you attempt to mislead and deceive by trying to alter and mutate our positions to what you want them to be and you slander and attack personally. your a slimy dirty cowardly partisan troll.

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  92. see your not smart enough for honest debate troll tex, hence the dirty deceptive troll tactics.

    I dont doubt you are connected to the Bush Administration one bit because you are a dumb as dirt liar just like they are.

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  93. Anonymous9:11 AM

    Worf wrote: "Problem is Tex, you're an idiot."

    That's funny since, in a previous thread, you characterized me as "erudite."

    Once again, Worf needs to make up his mind.

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  94. Worf said "Problem is Tex, you're an idiot.

    If you weren't such an idiot, I'd enjoy debating you.

    But being an idiot, makes debating you almost pointless.

    You read your posts from a cue card of right wing talking points and you're too stupid to understand when you've been creamed.

    But thats ok.

    We will accomodate the "special" trolls too.

    +1, troll tex didnt ride the little bus, HE STILL DOES!

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  95. See Troll Tex your either from the Ann Coulter style of debate where you think playing dumb like you dont understand our points and then either ignoring points you cant refute or reconstructing our arguments the way you want them to be so you can easily refute them is "CUTE", you think that enrages liberals when all it really shows is you are intellectually dishonest and afraid of honest debate because you arent smart enough.

    You either resort to intellectual dishonesty or slander and personal attacks.......unless you really are that stupid, and your too dumb too actually understand our arguments.

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  96. And Troll Tex, for the record you've had your clock cleaned more than ANYONE else in her, at least most of your Right Wing Buddies are capable of debate when they want to.

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  97. Anonymous9:28 AM

    Mike said "You either resort to intellectual dishonesty or slander"

    Do you have any examples?

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  98. 90% of your posts are examples troll tex, you repeatedly try to create my position for me, or play dumb and dont answer any question that you cant refute or casts your people in a bad light, and you have slandered and attacked Lydia many times while playing your little troll games of denying it was you then admotting it was you then denying it was you then apologizing for name calling which you claim is the sihn of a weak mind and you dont do.

    It is obvious you are not her for debate, you showed up a few months ago to be an "agitator" because Lydia's book is coming out and thats all you are is an "agitator" troll tex.

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  99. Is the fair implanted Lydia deleting today? Slow Mike,when have you ever debated anyone,all you do is schreech.But I must say you should be proud,you've come quite a ways for a kid that took the "little" bus to school.Perhaps someday the fair implanted Lydia will have a telethon for your kind.

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  100. Slow Mike.once Kinko's is done printing the fair implanted Lydia's future best seller will you be buying copies for all your family members?

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  101. Anonymous9:44 AM

    If I poke a hole in an argument to show that it is flaed, that is not intellectual dishonesty. That is debate, and YOU can't handle true debate.

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  102. I see where that cow Cindy Sheehan is on a hungar strike,the shame is her poor heroic son is rolling in his grave over that pigs actions.

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  103. Anonymous9:56 AM

    johnny troll is back, are you TT as well as anonymous and wufuss daddy johnny

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  104. Hey wufuss/dufuss,last month you and Col.Klink had nuclear war about to start,the american and world economy about to implode,Karl Rove about to be indicted.How can anyone "debate" you idiots.The other day someone brought up the abortion issue (the foundation of the liberal party) and neither of you would touch it.The only thing you three want to address is Iraq.

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  105. Wufuss,Slow Mike and Col.Klink are Irag 24/7,you three are one trick ponies.

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  106. because Iraq is the issue that needs to be addressed.

    And let me just say there is a big difference between censorship and deleting a foul mouthed punks insults that add nothing of value to the discussion.

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  107. You are also a bit slow on the uptake.We are three different people.Your conspiracy is blown.

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  108. Wufuss dandy said "You are also a bit slow on the uptake.We are three different people.Your conspiracy is blown."

    And how would you know that, do you trolls all know each other?

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  109. Slow Mike,you're full of shit.You fools can call people nazi's ,muderer's,or what ever else you choose but thats O.K. because its coming from the choir.You people really hate trur free speech.

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  110. no its you guys that hate free speech thats why you call people traitors and unpatriotic and in league with the terrorists and threaten the press with treason, because you clowns are against freedom of speech and freedom of the press unless it benefits you.

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  111. The reason the fair implanted Lydia deleted mine and John's postings were she is so insensed with the popularity and success of Ann Coulter she'sbeside herself with envy.And when any of you where asked to point out any lies in Coulters book you dopes took off bashing her.I suppose thats what you call debate.

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  112. keep living in fantasy land anonymous.

    BTW you still didnt answer my question, how would you KNOW there is three of you are you trolls all buddies?

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  113. Anonymous10:10 AM

    Good point, W.D. If Mike really read the book like he claims, he should be able to tell us what "lies" were contained therein. Well, Mike, please tell us.

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  114. i'll do it in more detail tonight after work, but quicly off the top of my head, the fact that she claimed the widows of 9/11 are glad their husbands are dead is a unsubstantiated fact other wise known as a lie, as is the statement liberals dont care about human life because they dont support making abortion illegal.

    thers plenty more

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  115. You've gotten awful quite slowone.Are you debating in sign lannguage?

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  116. maybe during lunch i'll try to post some of coulter's lies and hysterical rhetoric.

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  117. Anonymous10:17 AM

    That's all Mike could find on the Internet. So, Mike, is your memory going to my somehow better tonight?

    I doubt you read the book.

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  118. sorry wufuss troll, I have end of the month reports to finish up, I dont have time to search the book for the specific BS I want to address and write a long involved post at the moment i'll get back to you this afternoon or evening.

    but if your trying to portray Ann Coulter as a credible or authoritative source then your a bigger joke than sge is.

    "who's worse the fool or the fool who follows him" Obi Wan Kenobi

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  119. didnt say I read the book Troll Tex, there you go lying again and making my arguments for me, I said I skimmed through it and read about half of it, I dont think I could stomach reading all that twisted BS and lies.

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  120. Anonymous10:21 AM

    Mike writes: "sorry wufuss troll, I have end of the month reports to finish up"

    How convenient, Mike.

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  121. What!!! Thats it!! How do you know the Jersey Cows are'nt glad? Thats all you got.I kind of expected better from you.How many unborn babies were killed by abortion during the length of the ongoing Irag war? You libs bitch everyday about loses during a war but have absolutly no voice for abortion victims,so in you way of thinking I have to assume you really dont care about those killings.Correct?

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  122. dont worry i'll beat up on you fools later tonight.

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  123. Anonymous10:30 AM

    The funny thing is that Mike was just talking about others running debates, and he gets called on what lies he read in Coulter's book, and he runs away, like his memory of what he read will improve over the day. What wimp.

    End of the month reports? What a dodge. It's the beiginning of July.

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  124. If you dont want to talk about Irag these three weak sister are quiet.I also have a report to file at 12:30 on the first tee.I'll check back later to see if the slowone in fact shows up.

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  125. Wufus said "What!!! Thats it!! How do you know the Jersey Cows are'nt glad?"

    How does Ann know they are glad, is she clairavoyant?? See genius, thats an unsubstantiated fact just like most of the crap in her book, any fool can spew a bunch of crap with no facts to back it up, just look at you for example.

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  126. Anonymous10:41 AM

    Mike is back. So tell us what lies were in Coulter's book before you run away again.

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  127. Troll Tex said "End of the month reports? What a dodge. It's the beiginning of July."

    Once again you show what a dumb as dirt moron you are, answer me this Troll Tex, how do you do an end of the month report before the month is over?.........dont strain tour walnut to much with that one Troll Tex.

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  128. I told you i'll be back at lunch time or this evening to right about that, do you have a reading comprehension problem, what part of that dont you understand.

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  129. Anonymous10:59 AM

    Mike, stop stuffing your facy. Lunch is over. Now tell us about all the lies you came across when you read Coulter's book.

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  130. Anonymous11:15 AM

    Worf wrote: "They don't ask the questions in here.

    We do."

    Try and stop me. LMAO.

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  131. Ms Lydia,

    I am humbled and honored that a) you and I ended up co-finalists in the Koufax Awards this year, and b) that you sought out my small contribution to the graphical interface of the Web.

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  132. Whenever America needs fixin', they call in the Democrats. I posted about this over the weekend.

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  133. Anonymous11:40 AM

    Mike, the Crisco Kid, is now taking orders from his master, Worfeus. The truth is out.

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  134. Anonymous12:18 PM

    Pick up Al Franken's books, "Lies and the Lying Liars that Tell Them" and Rush Limbaugh book and you will find chapters on a few of Ann Coulter's lies from her Slander and Treason. So many lies, so little time. Go to Daily Howler and find 5 years worth of lies.

    A good writer doesn't just uncover the lies, he analyzes why Coulter lies, why she manipulates the truth. She is the biggest liar of all time.

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  135. Anonymous12:26 PM

    chris take over for awhile I need to take a break

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  136. boy for a bunch of guys you supposedly cant stand who only talk about stuff you guys dont want to talk about you sure spend an amazing amout of time here, your dedication is truly impressive.

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  137. Baghdad:

    A car bomb exploded Wednesday killing 6 and injuring 17 others.

    The death toll in Iraq for the month of June was 1595. The deadliest since February.

    The majority of those 1595 were shot.

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  138. so which one of you three stooges is Chris?

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  139. Gee Larry, I can see why the trolls want to change the topic from Iraq to abortion, even those fools see thar Iraq is a disaster.

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  140. They are probably in mourning over the death of Bush's Buddy "Kenny Boy".

    Any real news escapes them.

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  141. Worf said "Well Mike, considering that all the trolls were on vacation together yesterday, but then showed up here bright and early ready to work, shows us something about who they are.

    They're apparently punching a time clock."

    I thought the same.

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  142. Maybe they work/or reside in a mental ward, since Johnny the Anonymous Texan Wufuss Volt all have the same lingo, all have the same timing, and all have the same hate for Lydia.

    Maybe their acne has yet to clear up from those days 40 years ago, when they were snubbed in school, leaving them bitter at all Women because none would pay their crater faced mugs a second look.

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  143. Wufus dandy said "Wufuss dandy said "You are also a bit slow on the uptake.We are three different people.Your conspiracy is blown."


    BTW you still didnt answer my question, how would you KNOW there is three of you, are you trolls all buddies?

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  144. no I think volt is a seperate person at least.

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  145. Anonymous1:47 PM

    "test" test's

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  146. Bush admitted in an interview with Stars and Stripes that he hasn't attended any funerals for US troops killed in Iraq.

    Bush said he didn't attend any funerals because "He didn't know which ones to go to".

    Maybe Bush decided to Ignore all US troops killed in Iraq so he wouldn't have to choose.

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  147. Oil Prices are $ 75 a barrel. Looks like Bush's Iraq war has really helped the American consumer.

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  148. Anonymous1:55 PM

    spectorsoft

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  149. Anonymous2:09 PM

    Johnny said "spectorsoft"

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  150. Is even Tony Blair going to "cut and run" on the idiot in chief and dummy rummy...?

    With Italy and Japan withdrawing their troops, the British are feeling increasingly isolated in southern Iraq, where they have 8,000 troops to provide security to several million Iraqis. Tony Blair signalled Tuesday that there is a limit even to his patience (and longevity), and that the US can't count on this level of UK support past late 2007.


    http://www.juancole.com/

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  151. Oh and what stable situation will Tony leave behind to thge idiot and his dumb sidekick?

    For some strange reason, the governing council took it into its head to fire 300 policemen in Samawa. This desperate action, exactly the wrong thing to do as the British depart, suggests that even provinces in the oil-rich south are strapped for cash. The fired policemen are not going quietly, and are demonstrating. One of them even broke into the house of a council member and beat him up. The governing council members complain that they have no security. (Then why did they fire 300 policemen?) If this kind of chaos is going to attend the British withdrawal over the next 18 months, it is not a good sign.

    http://www.juancole.com/

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  152. Which dumb sidekick are you refering to Clif, our idiot in chief Bush has so many dumb sidekicks that I think you might have to be more specific.

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  153. Anonymous3:05 PM

    Karl Rove had Ken Lay killed so Bush would'nt have to pardon him.

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  154. Troll alert in 3..2..1..because;

    Update: Company to Probe Coulter Plagiarism Charges
    By Justin Rood - July 5, 2006, 2:35 PM

    I heard back from Universal Press Syndicate's Kathie Kerr. Her company distributes Ann Coulter's column to over 100 newspapers around the country -- columns which, according to recent news, may have contained plagiarized material.

    I had asked Kerr earlier this morning whether her company was taking any action in response to these published claims.

    In an email, Kerr thanked me for bringing the assertions to UPS's attention, and asked me to get a copy of the report to them. "If Mr. Barrie would be so kind to send Lee Salem, President and Editor of Universal Press Syndicate his report, we will be happy to review it. Until we do, there's little we can say about it," she wrote me. John Barrie was the New York Post's expert source who claimed to have identified Coulter's plagiarized passages.

    In my reply, I explained to Kerr that Barrie had been quoted not by me but by the New York Post, and perhaps that paper would be a good source of information. Kerr replied: "we have no contact information."

    A few minutes later, however, Ms. Kerr located Barrie's contact information on the Web and said she would try to call him herself. Moments later, another email from Ms. Kerr arrived: "I've left Mr. Barrie a message."

    Sounds like the Coulter plagiarism investigation is off to a flying start. I've put in a call myself to Mr. Barrie, and am waiting to hear back. I'll let you know what I find out.


    http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001055.php


    It would be true karma if Ann the anorexic Nazi got caught plagerising and lost most of her bile spewing money for it........LOL

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  155. Mike the dumb side kick is the one leading the pentagon who thinks he knbows more than the professionals who dedicated their lives to the study of military matters...

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  156. Anonymous3:14 PM

    Whats Kim Jong Il's favorite film of 2006? "Failure to Launch."

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  157. In Basra, state of emergency provides little relief from violence

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's first major security initiative, a 30-day state of emergency intended to restore peace to Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, appears to have failed, residents there report.


    The state of emergency ended Saturday, but residents said that little had changed: Shiite militias and tribes still control the city's streets, political factions still fight for control of the city, and Shiite Muslim militias still threaten Sunni Muslims with death. Morgue officials report that the number of people killed in sectarian violence remains unchanged.


    Al-Maliki's Basra initiative had been closely watched as a sign of whether his government would prove more able than its predecessor at reigning in sectarian violence. The government's ability to assert its authority throughout Iraq is an important indicator of when the United States might be able to begin withdrawing troops.


    Many believe that Iraqis won't view their government as legitimate unless it regains control of its two biggest cities, Baghdad and Basra, both of which are wracked with violence.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/14965478.htm

    Baghdad is uncontrollable thus they create a green zone.......and now they might be planning to do the same for Ramala..by bulldozing everything for a few blocks around the city center....maybe they need to do the same thing in Basra..and when they have a green zone in all of Iraq's provincial capitals along with Baghdad and the permanent bases they can declare victory and the troops can come home....

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  158. Anonymous3:17 PM

    Do negroes have tails?

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  159. Clif said "It would be true karma if Ann the anorexic Nazi got caught plagerising and lost most of her bile spewing money for it........LOL"

    too late for that Clif the big Money backing her apparently allready bought up all her books to "HELP" her become a bestseller, and apparently since they are giving the books away for free they arent selling that great............what a lousy return on investment Coulter is.

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  160. Things might get uncomfortable for the dumb one because;

    US panel orders Abu Ghraib documents from Pentagon

    WASHINGTON - A U.S. congressional panel has ordered Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to turn over documents on the probe into abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison after the Pentagon failed to respond to an earlier request.

    The House Government Reform Committee issued a subpoena to Rumsfeld last week and said the Pentagon must produce a raft of documents, including all drafts of the report on the Abu Ghraib investigation, by the end of business on July 14.

    The subpoena follows Rumsfeld's failure to respond to a March 7 letter from the congressional panel requesting the same documents.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13722120/


    But don't expect to hear abpout this on the liberal MSM...they have a FAILED missle test to scare everyone with....

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  161. Anonymous3:20 PM

    Look its johnny troll troll

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  162. Al-Zaman/ AFP say that a firestorm of protest is building in Iraq over the alleged rape and killing of a 15 year old Iraqi girl in Mahmudiyah, and the murder of her family, by a US GI. MP Safiyah Suhail, a woman representative from the National Iraqi List in parliament, demanded that PM Nuri al-Maliki and Interior Minister Jawad al-Bulani present themselves to parliament for questioning in the matter. She demanded that the Iraqi government be involved in the investigation. She said that this was a matter that touched on the honor of the Iraqi nation and the female MPs had a special role to play in demanding an accounting.

    Suhail is former ambassador to Egypt of the new Iraqi government and stood against the imposition of Islamic law on Iraqi women. That a secular person is so stirred up about this suggests to you what the Sunni and Shiite fundamentalists are thinking. For most Iraqis, honor is bound up in the chastity of their women, at least in public, and a foreigner raping an Iraqi girl is a profound humiliation for the entire country. This matter is not going to go away quietly and if the Bush administration thinks it is just a matter of disciplining unruly troops, it has another think coming. Entire colonial empires have been shaken by such incidents in the past.

    http://www.juancole.com/

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  163. Iraq PM calls for inquiry into rape-murder case
    Al-Maliki demands independent probe, review of troop immunity

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq’s prime minister called Wednesday for an independent investigation into an alleged rape-slaying by U.S. soldiers and said the immunity of coalition troops from Iraq prosecution should be reviewed.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13696479/


    I'm confused does this call make him a traitor..or a liberal....or a terrorist.....can some wingnut please help me out....

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  164. US Military Solution to Ramadi: Get Rid of It

    by Steven D
    Wed Jul 5th, 2006 at 08:31:38 AM EST
    I'm not making that up. That's what the plan is: to bulldoze buildings in the central core of Ramadi to create a "Green Zone" in the center of the city:

    ... In three years here the Marines and the Army have tried nearly everything to bring this provincial capital of 400,000 under control. Nothing has worked.

    Now American commanders are trying something new. Instead of continuing to fight for the downtown, or rebuild it, they are going to get rid of it, or at least a very large part of it.

    They say they are planning to bulldoze about three blocks in the middle of the city, part of which has been reduced to ruins by the fighting, and convert them into a Green Zone, a version of the fortified and largely stable area that houses the Iraqi and American leadership in Baghdad.

    Yeah baby! Another Green Zone is just what we need in Iraq, cuz that first one has worked out so well:

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Baghdad's central morgue received 1,595 bodies last month -- the highest number since the February bombing of a Shiite shrine sparked a wave of sectarian killings, a morgue official said on Wednesday.

    The figures show the level of violence in Iraq has increased even after the killing on June 7 of al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in a U.S. air strike.

    How do you know when you are losing the hearts and minds of an occupied people? Whe you start repeating strategies that have already failed, because you can't think of anything better to do. In the past week the "unity" government of Prime Minister al-Maliki has been torn apart by Sunni defections, bombs and the killings go on despite the "turning point" represented by the Death of Zarqawi, yet the only tactic we can think of to deal with the insurgency in Ramadi is to bulldoze a bunch of buildings in the center of the city and build another "Green Zone" fortress.

    This reminds me very much of how the Soviets tried to deal with Afghanistan in the '80's: military strongholds in the center of urban settings. It's a strategy as old as the one the Crusaders employed in the Middle Ages. They were occupiers too, occupiers of "The Holy Land", and you know what? Eventually their fortresses proved insufficient. They were forced to abandon them.

    Just like we will.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2006/7/5/83138/46363


    History has a way of repeating itself for those way too stupid or pigheaded to actually learn from it.......poor poor neo-cons they should have read the history of the middle east by the british and russians...it would have educated them on a thing or two our troops learned the hard way...

    WITH THEIR BLOOD

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  165. Anonymous3:30 PM

    Toyta is reportedly working on development of a car that will run on cow dung...while Honda is rumored to be developing a similar vrhicle that runs on Al Gore emissions.

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  166. And analusless is working on shoving his head further up his anus

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  167. Anonymous3:41 PM

    thats just johnny troll troll, its about the time he gets off of work

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  168. Anonymous3:43 PM

    Liberals Spit!

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  169. Bush, Rove and Republicans insist they are the Party of "Foreign Policy" and "National Security" expertise. Here is the long list of their "successes":

    1. Iran refuses to stop their uranium enrichment program and the military say they don't even know where the exact targets are to bomb them to make sure if we attack we get them all.....

    2. North Korea fires off a series of missiles....duds...but bush's bluster did not affect them much....too bad they were not shurbery..Bush is good at that

    3. Islamic Jihadists take control of Somalia, institute Sharia Law, and for good measure shoot innocent people for doing nothing more than watching a soccer match on television..the best Bush can come up with..ally himself with the same people who killed our RTangers during the blackhawk down incident...

    4. In Afghanistan the Taliban -- the people that harbored bin-Laden during the lead-up to 9/11 -- reemerges stronger than ever...Bin Laden and Al Zarwhai both feel safe enogh to begin releasing videotapes again...and Afgfhanistan is expected to have a record Heroin crop...GOOD JOB Bushie...(can we fire him now?)

    5. The CIA shut-down its bin-Laden taskforce even though he too, according to terrorism experts who highlight his increased video releases as proof, appears to be reemerging stronger than ever....par for the course with this idiot and his dumb and dumber crew...

    6. Israel and Palestine are pushing the entire Middle East toward the edge of coming completely unglued

    7. Saddam captured, Zarzawi dead, third or fourth government installed and Iraq continues its unabated march toward total chaos and civil-war...and they call it a sucess...I would hate to see what they consider a failure.....

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  171. Wonder what Bush is scared about the New York Times...this might help out...

    Bush's thoughts are...

    "If those pinko, liberal, man-on-dog, flag burning, traitors at the NY Times keep telling people what's really going on inside my administration, the American people, sooner or later, are going to start wondering why we haven't found any that Saudi Arabian money or arrested any of those princes, yet.

    The last thing the American people need to be reminded about is:

    * My letting Osama bin Laden get away at Tora Bora and refusing to pursue him into Pakistan.

    * The FBI allowing the bin Laden family flee this country shortly after 9/11 without a serious investigation.

    * My embarrassing Bush Family connections to Saudi Arabia.

    * My getting our troops out of Saudi Arabia as bin Laden had demanded.

    * My administration's utter lack of condemnation of Saudi Arabia's funding of terrorism by continuing to support Wahhabism and anti-West hatred. BTW, where do you think funds for al Qaeda in Iraq come from anyway? Iran? Heh!

    * Allowing Saudi money to carry out Osama bin Laden's jihad on our economy.

    * The fact that Osama intentionally helped me get reelected in 2004.

    * That Dubai Ports Deal I screwed up didn't help things either.

    * Then to top things off, I shutdown the CIA unit that was hunting for Osama bin Laden.

    As you can see, I'm really terrified about the prospect of the real truth on my record on terrorism getting out.

    Have a nice day," said Mr. Bush to a small group of Disney characters.


    http://www.internetweekly.org/2006/07/cartoon_bush_ny_times.html

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  172. TOP TEN SIGNS THE GOP HAS GONE OVER THE EDGE
    By Don Davis

    10. Compared to the Republican leadership, Pat Buchanan sounds completely rational.

    9. Dubya’ makes you nostalgic for Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.

    8. Next to Falwell and Pat Robertson, Billy Graham seems like a secular humanist.

    7. Bill Frist’s diagnosis of Terry Schiavo is actually the most sensible thing to come out of his mouth.

    6. The media calls a Republican a “moderate” as long as they’re against burning the flag and gays.

    5. You’re considering a ban on all abortions — just to avoid losing population and electoral votes to the Sun-belt Red States.

    4. You’re prepared to nominate Chuck Hagel for “Profiles in Courage.”

    3. You lose sleep over the prospect of the “Roberts Court” reinstating the Dred Scott decision.

    2. You wonder out loud if the Iraqi practice of kidnapping legislators should be adopted over here.

    1. “Serious” candidates for the ‘08 nomination include Frist, George Allen and Sam Brownback.

    http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=190

    A bonus...they call georgie intelligent or competent

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  173. Anonymous4:27 PM

    Who has murdered more people George Bush or Ted Kennedy?

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  174. George Bush by proxie hands down...

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  175. Remember if you gety others to doi your killing then you are as guilty as they are and tens of thousands have been killed on his orders...some even murdered

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  176. So Bush is responsible for many more deaths than teddy who was NEVER charged or convicted of murder

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  177. But continue to troll away as the situation deteriorates daily for Bush and his band of clowns

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  178. Anonymous4:33 PM

    Jack Murtha has been voted the al Qaeda employee of the month.Way to go Jack.

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  179. Better question...who is responsible for the mess we are in RIGHT now not 36 years ago...

    answer BUSH and the criminals who back him

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  180. Or are the repugs so incompetent that with controll of at least one branch of government for the last 12 years the couldn't do anything but SCREW UP daily...and make bad situations uncontrollable..and destroy an economy and military

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  181. Must be hard to accept that Cheney is betting against the economy

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  182. You know the economy the repug trolls say is going soooo well

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  183. Anonymous4:41 PM

    Johnny said "Jack Murtha has been voted the al Qaeda employee of the month.Way to go Jack."

    ooh you are so witty and erudite johnny troll, al qaeda employee of the month you sound like your retarded or something is that the best you can do

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  184. Anonymous4:45 PM

    can you post anything intelligent or are all your posts 4th grade banter, clif is posting current events and your posting incoherent babble and slander worthy of an 8 year old and at least have the courage to use your handle johnny, i mean we all know who you are

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  185. Anonymous5:12 PM

    NBC News and news services
    Updated: 28 minutes ago
    WASHINGTON - The United States for the first time confirmed Wednesday that it had readied its missile interceptors to meet a specific threat — North Korea’s launch of a long-range missile said to be capable of reaching Alaska.

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  186. Anonymous5:14 PM

    U.N. sanctions considered


    Japan, with support from key allies the United States and Britain, called for sanctions against North Korea Wednesday in response to its barrage of missile launches but immediately ran into opposition from China and Russia.

    Japan, which is a possible target of a North Korean missile strike, circulated a Security Council resolution that would ban any country from transferring funds, material and technology that could be used in North Korea's missile and weapons of mass destruction programs.

    The resolution was supported by the United States, Britain and France — three of the five veto-wielding permanent members of the council.

    China and Russia countered that they favor a weaker council statement without any threat of sanctions, positions that will make it very difficult for Japan and its key allies, the United States and Britain, to win approval for tough measures against Pyongyang.

    North Korea has said sanctions would amount to a declaration of war, and China and Russia are clearly concerned that a U.N. demand for such measures would only make the current situation worse and delay a return to six-party talks.

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  187. Anonymous5:25 PM

    Clarke's Take On Terror
    What Bush's Ex-Adviser Says About Efforts to Stop War On Terror

    March 21, 2004CBS) In the aftermath of Sept. 11, President Bush ordered his then top anti-terrorism adviser to look for a link between Iraq and the attacks, despite being told there didn't seem to be one.

    The charge comes from the adviser, Richard Clarke, in an exclusive interview on 60 Minutes.

    "Frankly," he said, "I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never know."

    Clarke went on to say, "I think he's done a terrible job on the war against terrorism."

    Clarke says that as early as the day after the attacks, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was pushing for retaliatory strikes on Iraq, even though al Qaeda was based in Afghanistan.

    Clarke suggests the idea took him so aback, he initally thought Rumsfeld was joking.

    After the president returned to the White House on Sept. 11, he and his top advisers, including Clarke, began holding meetings about how to respond and retaliate. As Clarke writes in his book, he expected the administration to focus its military response on Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. He says he was surprised that the talk quickly turned to Iraq.

    "Rumsfeld was saying that we needed to bomb Iraq," Clarke said to Stahl. "And we all said ... no, no. Al-Qaeda is in Afghanistan. We need to bomb Afghanistan. And Rumsfeld said there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan. And there are lots of good targets in Iraq. I said, 'Well, there are lots of good targets in lots of places, but Iraq had nothing to do with it.

    "Initially, I thought when he said, 'There aren't enough targets in-- in Afghanistan,' I thought he was joking.

    "I think they wanted to believe that there was a connection, but the CIA was sitting there, the FBI was sitting there, I was sitting there saying we've looked at this issue for years. For years we've looked and there's just no connection."

    Clarke says he and CIA Director George Tenet told that to Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and Attorney General John Ashcroft.

    Clarke then tells Stahl of being pressured by Mr. Bush.

    "The president dragged me into a room with a couple of other people, shut the door, and said, 'I want you to find whether Iraq did this.' Now he never said, 'Make it up.' But the entire conversation left me in absolutely no doubt that George Bush wanted me to come back with a report that said Iraq did this.

    "I said, 'Mr. President. We've done this before. We have been looking at this. We looked at it with an open mind. There's no connection.'

    "He came back at me and said, "Iraq! Saddam! Find out if there's a connection.' And in a very intimidating way. I mean that we should come back with that answer. We wrote a report."

    Clarke continued, "It was a serious look. We got together all the FBI experts, all the CIA experts. We wrote the report. We sent the report out to CIA and found FBI and said, 'Will you sign this report?' They all cleared the report. And we sent it up to the president and it got bounced by the National Security Advisor or Deputy. It got bounced and sent back saying, 'Wrong answer. ... Do it again.'

    "I have no idea, to this day, if the president saw it, because after we did it again, it came to the same conclusion. And frankly, I don't think the people around the president show him memos like that. I don't think he sees memos that he doesn't-- wouldn't like the answer."
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Clarke was the president's chief adviser on terrorism, yet it wasn't until Sept. 11 that he ever got to brief Mr. Bush on the subject. Clarke says that prior to Sept. 11, the administration didn't take the threat seriously.

    "We had a terrorist organization that was going after us! Al Qaeda. That should have been the first item on the agenda. And it was pushed back and back and back for months.

    "There's a lot of blame to go around, and I probably deserve some blame, too. But on January 24th, 2001, I wrote a memo to Condoleezza Rice asking for, urgently -- underlined urgently -- a Cabinet-level meeting to deal with the impending al Qaeda attack. And that urgent memo-- wasn't acted on.

    "I blame the entire Bush leadership for continuing to work on Cold War issues when they back in power in 2001. It was as though they were preserved in amber from when they left office eight years earlier. They came back. They wanted to work on the same issues right away: Iraq, Star Wars. Not new issues, the new threats that had developed over the preceding eight years."

    Clarke finally got his meeting about al Qaeda in April, three months after his urgent request. But it wasn't with the president or cabinet. It was with the second-in-command in each relevant department.

    For the Pentagon, it was Paul Wolfowitz.

    Clarke relates, "I began saying, 'We have to deal with bin Laden; we have to deal with al Qaeda.' Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, said, 'No, no, no. We don't have to deal with al Qaeda. Why are we talking about that little guy? We have to talk about Iraqi terrorism against the United States.'

    "And I said, 'Paul, there hasn't been any Iraqi terrorism against the United States in eight years!' And I turned to the deputy director of the CIA and said, 'Isn't that right?' And he said, 'Yeah, that's right. There is no Iraqi terrorism against the United States."

    Clarke went on to add, "There's absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda, ever."

    When Stahl pointed out that some administration officials say it's still an open issue, Clarke responded, "Well, they'll say that until hell freezes over."
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    By June 2001, there still hadn't been a Cabinet-level meeting on terrorism, even though U.S. intelligence was picking up an unprecedented level of ominous chatter.

    The CIA director warned the White House, Clarke points out. "George Tenet was saying to the White House, saying to the president - because he briefed him every morning - a major al Qaeda attack is going to happen against the United States somewhere in the world in the weeks and months ahead. He said that in June, July, August."

    Clarke says the last time the CIA had picked up a similar level of chatter was in December, 1999, when Clarke was the terrorism czar in the Clinton White House.

    Clarke says Mr. Clinton ordered his Cabinet to go to battle stations-- meaning, they went on high alert, holding meetings nearly every day.

    That, Clarke says, helped thwart a major attack on Los Angeles International Airport, when an al Qaeda operative was stopped at the border with Canada, driving a car full of explosives.

    Clarke harshly criticizes President Bush for not going to battle stations when the CIA warned him of a comparable threat in the months before Sept. 11: "He never thought it was important enough for him to hold a meeting on the subject, or for him to order his National Security Adviser to hold a Cabinet-level meeting on the subject."

    Finally, says Clarke, "The cabinet meeting I asked for right after the inauguration took place-- one week prior to 9/11."

    In that meeting, Clarke proposed a plan to bomb al Qaeda's sanctuary in Afghanistan, and to kill bin Laden.
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    The president's new campaign ads highlight his handling of Sept. 11 -- which has become the centerpiece of his bid for re-electio

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  188. Anonymous5:37 PM

    Mike, if you've finished lunch, could you tell us what lies you came across in Coulter's book, since you claim to have read it.

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  189. Anonymous5:39 PM

    Oil Prices Hit Record High
    Climb Past $75 A Barrel, May Send Pump Prices To $3 Per Gallon Nationwide

    (Page 1 of 2)WASHINGTON, July 5, 2006

    Oil prices are now roughly 26 percent higher than a year ago, but still below all-time inflation-adjusted highs of around $90.

    The average retail price of gasoline is $2.93 a gallon, according to OPIS. But Kloza said pump prices are likely to surpass $3 a gallon as early as this weekend.

    U.S. retail gasoline prices peaked at $3.07 a gallon, on average, last September, reflecting the extreme tightness in the market following Hurricane Katrina, which knocked out pipelines that deliver fuel to the East Coast and Midwest.

    But with global oil demand approaching 85 million barrels per day, traders are extremely nervous about the possibility of any supply disruptions, especially because there is less than 2 million barrels a day of spare production capacity, most of it in Saudi Arabia.

    And concerns over North Korea's nuclear missile test sent oil higher and stocks lower, CBS News' Alexis Christoforous reports.

    "The bulls just seem to have plenty of fodder to sustain ever higher prices," Fimat USA oil analyst John Kilduff said. Kilduff said a severe disruption in oil supplies from a hurricane or some other event could send oil racing toward $90 a barrel.

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  190. TT turn on Keith Olbermann...he is having a REALLY good story about Ann the anorexic nazi's plagerism...both in it's book and columns

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  191. John Barrie..on Ann the anorexic nazi's plagerism...I think her plagerism would flunk a freshman english paper...

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  192. Ann the anorexic nazi scewered Jason Blair for his plagerism....wonder if she will hold herself to the SAME standard

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  193. Anonymous5:45 PM

    Yes, and the expert, John Barrie, now says it is unclear as to whether she was guilty of backtacking. He did say that she was sloppy with her citations.

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  194. Just like Rush crying for morality while running off to the Dominican Republic with a bottle full of viagra..for his little problem....

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  195. Wrong TT that was a lie he said on public TV she would fail if she used the same tactics in a college...and he found numerous examples

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  196. Anonymous5:47 PM

    Yes, and the expert, John Barrie, now says it is unclear as to whether she was guilty of plagiarism. He did say that she was sloppy with her citations.

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  197. So Rush is a hypocrit and Ann is a hypocrit...is it a repug thing to be SOOOO hypocritical and wrong sooo much

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  198. Another TT lie...he said he found NUMEROUS examples in both the book and column

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  199. Anonymous5:49 PM

    So, where's "tail between his legs" Mike with the lies in Coulter's book?

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