"Democracy in Crisis - An Exclusive BRADBLOG Interview with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr."
"CNN's Lou Dobbs: This Congress, This Administration, I Cannot Fathom What They Are Thinking"
A MUST READ: "Was the 2004 Election Stolen?" Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in Rolling Stone The issue has started to heat up.
Brad Friedman's The BRAD BLOG has been covering this surge of interest in our voting system. Robert Kennedy Jr. has been joined by Lou Dobbs of CNN who has started a series on his nightly newscast called "Democracy at Risk."
Lydia the repugs are running scared because instead of them getting a rapture from God for their efforts, he is allowing them to be outed as the fooles they are, and the more people find out the worse it looks for the repugs...and they know if they ever loose control over either house in DC the committees will start doing exactally what the constitution said they should do...OVERSIGHT...and oversight to a repug is like daylight to a vampire, they just can't stand it, or survive it.
ReplyDeleteAnd if they lose control in DC their K street project is gonna crash faster than Enron did
ReplyDeletetesting
ReplyDeleteThe reason why the neocons in Washington want to win so badly is because they've done so much illegal stuff against Americans behind our backs that they don't want anyone to find out. This is why some of them have a hard time with the surveillance program because they know they don't want to be spied on by a democrat president. Can you imagine what we would find out? Ewwwwwwww.
ReplyDeleteI dont know what we would do without your dazzling brilliance, same for all your troll buddies, insulting a womans appearance and attacking her personally like a pack of wolves...........but you brilliant debaters are all vehemently against personal attacks of course.
ReplyDeleteLydia, Kay, if the Diebold machines are/were rigged to register wins for Republicanns and interests of the administration, why did those same Diebold machines put Hamas into power???
ReplyDeleteIf I'm not mistaken, isn't it the bully on the playground that lashes out at the other kids with verbal attacks because he/she doesn't fit in with the crowd and pretty much hates him or herself, so therefore wants to make those around him or her feel their own inner pain?
ReplyDeleteJust an observation... :-)
Hamas was using Diebold machines?
ReplyDeleteIf Hamas was using Diebold machines that tells me that the Bush Cartel wanted a Hamas win because their goal is to create chaos in the Middle East and what better way than to help other thugs out in winning!
ReplyDeleteIf republicans in our nation continue to steal elections, one good thing can come out of it: WE KNOW EXACTLY WHICH PARTY TO BLAME FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF DEMOCRACY IN OUR COUNTRY AND FOR TURNING OUR NATION INTO A THEOCRATIC TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP!
ReplyDeleteSee? Dems, Libs, and moderate Republicans (who are rational thinkers) can't take the blame!
"KayInMaine said...
ReplyDeleteIf Hamas was using Diebold machines that tells me that the Bush Cartel wanted a Hamas win because their goal is to create chaos in the Middle East and what better way than to help other thugs out in winning!"
This is the insanity I'm talking about. Either way for you, Kay, it's a conspiracy. If Hamas lost, you would say it was because the Diebold machines were rigged that way.
Let's not forget that the Bush Crime Cartel is not on the side of peace, because if they were, they never would have illegally invaded Iraq and then start sending high tech bunker buster bombs filled with white phosophorus to Israel at the moment!
ReplyDeleteAnd let's not forget about Bush Sr.'s relationship with the Muhjahadeen (sp?) and how this same man had no problem with allowing his underlings to train death squads in South America!
The Bush Crime Family is not a nice family. The End.
Voltaire, are the democrats using 800 signing statements to ignore the laws in this country because they feel that they are Imperialists and don't care what the stinking other branches of government say? No!!!!!!!!!! YOUR PRESIDENT and his BROWNSHIRTS have a different idea about how America should be run. They like the 'Saddams' of the world but on the surface they want you to think otherwise. They're Orwellian Pigs who use verbage that has one meaning...but it's the other meaning that they are intending. Doublespeak at it's best.
ReplyDeleteWho loved Saddam Hussein in the 1980s? Reagan and Bush Sr.
ReplyDeleteWho sent Saddam lots of arms and fun chemical weapons to use against the Iranians? Reagan and Bush Sr.
Who told Saddam that it was okay to invade Kuwait? Bush Sr.
Who stabbed Saddam in the back as soon as invaded Kuwait and used it as a reason to invade Iraq? Bush Sr.
Who then told the Iraqis to rise up against Saddam to help Americans take him out of power? Bush Sr.
Who pulled out after 100 days after he told the people of Iraq to rise up and left them helpless against Saddam? Bush Sr.
Who then used the weapons that Bush Sr. gave him to kill the Kurds who rose up against him? Saddam.
Who decided to sanction the Iraqi people because of what Saddam did and then caused the starvation of hundreds of thousands of people in that country? Bush Sr.
Who is the worst political family that our country has ever seen and this same family wants to be an Imperialist Dynasty in America? The Bush Crime Family
I despise them.
Tiny inTellect said;
ReplyDeleteLydia, Kay, if the Diebold machines are/were rigged to register wins for Republicanns and interests of the administration, why did those same Diebold machines put Hamas into power??
because those machines were not kept at the homes of repug poll workers in the US, and they did not have codes that many of the diebold workers here have to change how the software works, see TT the repugs did not have CONTROLL over there like they keep trying to have here over the elections.....
TallTexan, are the people of Palestine with the outcome of their election? I think they are, so what does it matter what I think anyways! Why are the counries over there electing terrorist groups to run their countries? Hmmmmmmmm....gee I wonder. Think it something to do with the fact that American boots are on the ground in Iraq? Yup!
ReplyDeleteBush smashed the bee's nest and now the bees are everywhere. That's quite an idiotic president you've got there.
Oh really Voltaire? What wrong lessons are you talking about? What I laid out is exactly what happened. The lesson was that THE WORLD CAN'T TRUST A BUSH FAMILY MEMBER AND NEITHER CAN I!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThey're horrible individuals. They've come to Maine for a long time and most of the state doesn't like them. Even the locals in Kennebunkport who hang pictures of the family in their stores don't like the Bush family but hang the pictures because the out of staters come to the town to see the house and it keeps their businesses going! Other than that, they grin and smile but underneath, they despise the family.
Kay, you are hopeless. According to you, the Diebold machines are only rigged when you don't like their results.
ReplyDeletebrilliant logic johnny, so am I to infer if someone insults your daughter at school you burst into to the class room almost every day for months and start calling the principal, some teachers and random students vulgar and hateful names and laughing with glee that they are a bunch of phonies for not linching the guy that insulted your daughter......just curious?
ReplyDeleteWanna see a chicken hawk defend the 102nd Keyboard fighting Brigade;
ReplyDeleteCliff May: National Review Bloggers Are ‘Fighting a War’ That Is ‘Equally Consequential’ To U.S. Troops in Combat
On Friday, the National Review’s Katherine Jean Lopez wrote a rather innocuous review of the new Oliver Stone movie, World Trade Center. Lopez wrote the movie was “about why we fight.”
Someone emailed Lopez, objecting to the line “it’s about why we fight,” and noting that “you do not fight - you never have and, hopefully, never will have to. You are not a member of any of the branches of the armed forces, nor a reservist.” Lopez was fairly contrite, responding, “To anyone reading from Iraq, Afghanistan, or otherwise serve in our military, let me clarify: I don’t fight. Thank you for serving so we may go about our days of blogging.”
But Cliff May, another National Review blogger and prominent right-wing pundit, objected. May insisted that Lopez, by blogging for the National Review was “fighting a war” and this war was “equally consequential” with the wars that are fought by the U.S. military. An excerpt:
There is a war of arms. And there is a war of ideas. They are not just inter-related, they are interdependent. They are equally consequential.
…Let’s take just one example: In the 1930s, Churchill fought a war of ideas. He tried to warn the world about Hitler; tried to warn Europe and America that Hitler’s hatred and ambition had to be checked. But most people did not listen. Churchill’s ideas did not prevail. They called Churchill a “war monger.”
…So yes, Kathryn, you are fighting a war. And your e-mailer is ignorant about how wars are fought, about how wars are won and lost, and about the way the world actually works.
To be fair, there is some truth in what May is saying. Arguments about ideas can have real consequences. But blogging on the National Review (or ThinkProgress, for that matter) is not the equivalent of Churchill warning the world about Hitler. And blogging is not “equally consequential” to the wars fought by members of the United States military, who put their lives at risk every day.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/25/may-war/#comments
So by his theroy we are fighting the war here, but georgie said to fight it over there, does he want us to go there, and then blog..too bad so sad for the trolls then.....LOL
Al-Qaida was not in Iraq prior to Bush invading. In fact, it was al-Zarqawi that the Bush Cartel let cross the border into Iraq way before the war started and used this guy as a way to tell the American people that al-Qaida was there! Another lie! You really think Saddam wanted terrorist groups in his country? Why do you think the country was divided into 3 areas? To keep the peace for the most part. He despised the terrorist groups. Osama tried for years to set up shop in Iraq, however, but of course Saddam wouldn't let the group in......but Bush did! Oh yes, the oil fields were the first to be defended and he let the borders remain wide open. Had Bush listened to the Generals in the beginning who wanted to put 300-500,000 troops on the ground to secure the country quick after the initial invasion, Iraq might be a very secure country right now, but he didn't. Bush and the PNAC members of his Cartel WANTED THE CHAOS. Because with the chaos, they could steal and pilfer (which they did and are still doing), and because of the constant war...Bush could use it to remind the American people that we are needed there! It's all propaganda and criminal.
ReplyDeleteNow we find out that Bush is sending Napalm-like bombs to Israel and Israel is using them. Can you say war crimes? I can! Bush has committed so many, it's no wonder he took our country off the ICC back in May of 2001. He knew exactly what the future was going to hold because he and his minions hashed it all out in the 1990s.
Dolty boy said;
ReplyDeleteGee clif,
Kay just said they DID.
Which one of you is right?
Do not know for sure, but she is entilted to her opinion just as I am mine, but it POP's the fantasy fooles assertion we think alike always
dolty boy said;
ReplyDeleteYeah TT,
Bush is damnned because he doesn't follow the law,
Katherine Harris is damnned because she did.
Not inn her ILLEGFAL disenrolling 50,000 people in the months leading up to the election, voters who were over 90% democratic...votes which would not allowed the sec of state, and chairperson of Bush's election campaign to "deliver the statefor him"
TallTexan, most of the Diebold machines used in the last election have been tested and retested since that time and every single one of them has been proven to be a one-sided machine! In one case, 9 people (I think they were on the town councel) decided to do a mock vote for either John Kerry or for Bush. They voted using the machines and after the votes were tallied 8 of the votes went to Bush and all nine had previously agreed to vote for Kerry! On the screen, their vote tallied but when it came to count......the computer switched the votes.
ReplyDeleteDid you know that not one mistake in the last election went in Kerry's favor? Doesn't that seem odd?
This is why Diebold doesn't want to have a paper receipt. They're working for the repugs and know that the only way for them to win is to cheat and the best way to cheat is to give the voter the "confidence" on the surface that they voted for Kerry, but inside the computer, it's doing something totally different and the voter has no idea. Criminal.
Uh, no, the elections are only rigged when the republicans and the Bush Crime Cartel are involved! Name one dictator that ever had a fair election without an fraud being committed. You can't and that is why it's not surprising that our Unitary Executive and his men steal our elections too!
ReplyDeleteBTW dolty boy..the chairman of diebold, which is actually;
ReplyDeleteDiebold Election Systems
Diebold Election Systems, a subsidiary of Diebold that accounts for 2.4% of its gross revenue, has entered the business of creating electronic voting terminals and solutions for government entities. Diebold entered this industry in 2001 by purchasing the assets of Global Election Systems which had been selling election equipment since 1991.
which has a few questions they do not like to answer:
In December 2005, Diebold's CEO Wally O'Dell left the company following reports that the company was facing securities fraud litigation surrounding charges of insider trading. His replacement, Thomas Swidarski, was reported to have given the maximum allowable $2000 contribution to George W. Bush's campaign despite Diebold having instituted a corporate policy disallowing involvement in political campaigns by senior executives, instituted after O'Dell had written, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year," in a fund-raising letter to Republicans dated August 13, 2003.
Ever wonder why so many of Bush's clowns are in the places where questions of a fair election arisesw, Like Ken Blackwell in Ohio, sec of state of Ohio, and at the same time chairman of Bush's re-election campaign,
where did that occur before?
I just heard Bush say that people "fear democracy". Huh? People are afraid to cast their votes to elect their government and to create their own laws? Huh. And they hate freedom? Yea, most of the planet would much rather live tied to a sewing machine rather than live in a country where laws would protect the rigths of that person!
ReplyDeleteBush is insane.
"KayInMaine said...
ReplyDeleteI just heard Bush say that people "fear democracy". Huh? People are afraid to cast their votes to elect their government and to create their own laws? Huh. And they hate freedom? Yea, most of the planet would much rather live tied to a sewing machine rather than live in a country where laws would protect the rigths of that person!
Bush is insane."
Totalitarian regimes fear democracy. If Bush is against democracy, why did he bring it to Iraq and Afganistan?
Right on Clif! Yes, Securities fraud is not unique in the circle of Bush's friends!
ReplyDeleteYup, Ken Blackwell should be in prison.
TallTexan, when Bush says things like, "Dead or Alive" you know he means he doesn't want to get the person. When Bush says, "leave no child behind" you can guarantee he's saying to ignore them and leave them all behind. When Bush says, "You're doing a heck of a job!" you can pretty much believe that the person he is saying that to is a traitor. When Bush says he is 'spreading democracy' we all know the lunatic is saying he doesn't want that. When Bush says that 'people fear democracy' what he is really saying is that he and his corporate swines hate the voice of the people and don't want the citizens of the country to be in control.
ReplyDeleteThat's what Bush is saying. He uses Orwellian Speak where he labels things with nice titles but he always means the opposite!
Tiny Intellect said;
ReplyDeleteTotalitarian regimes fear democracy. If Bush is against democracy, why did he bring it to Iraq and Afganistan?
He didn't really because neither government can control their country, in fact the Iraqi government must live inside the green zone and have little actual control, thus no real democracy exists, however the Iraqi people were allowed to got to the polls to vote , too bad the voting is not a democracy..hell even Saddam and Castro did that, but unlike a real democracy both Afghanistan and Iraq have no functioning grass roots support, outside the safe zones protected by outside troops
Kay, you didn't address my point about Iraq and Afganistan.
ReplyDeleteDiebold makes ATM machines that spit out a paper receipt. NONE OF THE VOTING MACHINES HAVE A PAPER RECEIPT.
ReplyDeleteDoes it really matter anyways? There were many instances where 'computer techs' came in to 'fix' the machines during the middle of voting and changed the computer program anyways. In one case, it was announced that Osama was going to attack the building and the building was cleared out and the programs were changed then too.
Republicans can't win on morals and values so they have to win by cheating and fraud.
TT, I did at 5:32pm.
ReplyDeleteTT, if you think having the Iranian Shiites controlling Iraq and the Taliban controlling Afghanistan as Bush spreading democracy, then you can understand why Putin said recently that he didn't want "Iraq democracy" in his country after Bush suggested it to him at their press conference!
ReplyDeleteBush isn't spreading democracy. People are voting but if you notice in Iraq, the elected leaders at the top keep changing because the Bush Cartel keeps changing them! Purple fingers is just like the American flag...a symbol, and the country that lies beneath the fingers and the flag are not democracies!
Clif, you are so funny. I love the names you give the Trolls. Freaking riot.
ReplyDeletedolty boy said;
ReplyDeleteYes clif. And if you guys get your way they never will.
they will not achieve a true democracy unyil they work out their sectarian issues, and that will not happen until they think working them out is our first priority instead of trying to prop up a failed idea, that you can invade a foriegn country and icnore their historical tensions which have caused instability in their past, do not secure their borders, so foriegn agitaters and terrorists will not be allowed to enter, fail to secure the weapons and munitions of their military and security forces after we disband them, so the possible insurgents do not get their hands on them,
and fail to provide the secutiry that the police and army did before they were disbanded
and then allow open looting, which showed the world the embarrassing lack of security that Baghdad was living with,
and fail to properly secure the areas that had people who would resent the invasion in the first place..
well shall I go on with bush-rumsfeld list of ways not to bring a democracy to a country, which putin called him on
Here's an observation....
ReplyDelete....isn't it interesting that John Bolton (Mr. Push Broom Mustache), who is currently working as the US Ambassador to the UN (he was appointed by Bush when the Congress was on vacation), has stated on numerous occassions that he doesn't like the UN and if the top 10 floors of the UN in NY were to be destroyed it would matter. Well, today.....Israel launched a bomb at UN peacekeepers in Lebanon and 4 were killed. Oh boy. This is why I believe that the Bush Cartel told Israel to go on a rampage and have been behind the scenes conspiring exactly what we are seeing right now!
Everything is intentional with these guys. There are no accidents.
Kay: "There are no accidents."
ReplyDeleteWhat do you call Chappaquiddick?
Tiny inTellect said...
ReplyDeleteKay: "There are no accidents."
What do you call Chappaquiddick?
are you insinuating the repugs set Kennedy up?
So you think Ted Kennedy said that day, "You know, I think I'll drink a shit load of alcohol and then crash my car so my "friend" will die". Huh? That was an accident, my friend. Yes, he covered it up and I don't find that to be a good thing either.
ReplyDeleteBut.......everything that Bush and his Swines has done since January 2001 is attentional and not an accident! Show me one incident under Bush that was an accident (besides him being president for the past 6 years).
REPUBLICANS in this administration and on this blog have no morals at all. They care not a bit about human life.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who defends Bush is the same.
IMPEACH THE BASTARD
ReplyDeleteI agree Maxmixt! They claim to be the "righteous party" and the "Party of God" but they never, ever act that way!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI personally believe that GOP stands for Got Our Perverts and Got Our Problems.
Wanna see how much the rubberstamp congress believes in the GrOPer in chiefs little war on terra?
ReplyDeleteStrapped for Money, Army Extends Cutbacks
Associated Press | July 21, 2006
WASHINGTON - The Army, bearing most of the cost for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, said Thursday its money crunch has gotten so bad it is clamping down on spending for travel, civilian hiring and other expenses not essential to the war mission.
A statement outlining the cutbacks did not say how much money the Army expects to save, but senior officials have said the cost of replacing worn equipment in Iraq and Afghanistan is rising at a quickening pace.
Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, said last week that in 2004 it cost $4 billion to repair or replace war equipment, but now it has reached $12 billion to $13 billion. "And in my view, we will continue to see this escalate," he said, adding that the Army is using up equipment at four times the rate for which it was designed.
Schoomaker traced the problem's origin to entering the Iraq war in 2003 with a $56 billion shortfall in equipment. The Army managed the situation by rotating in fresh units while keeping the same equipment in Iraq. Over time, he said, the equipment has worn out without sufficient investment in replacements.
The Army chief said there is too little money available to keep up with equipment repairs. He said the Army's five major repair depots are operating at only 50 percent of capacity, resulting in a backlog of 1,000 Humvee utility vehicles awaiting attention at the Red River Army Depot in Texas and 500 tanks at a depot in Alabama.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,106421,00.html?ESRC=army.nl
we know the Gop is a bunch of chicken-hawks, but they do not want to even fund the war they are all for.....pathetic
And the repugs claim progressives wouldn't fight the war on terra better than they are, well we are willing to enlist and fund the troops;
them not so much......
Kay: "There are no accidents."
ReplyDeleteWhat do you call the Desert One disaster under Jimmy Carter?
What about the rest of the world?
ReplyDeleteDid it not know the intentions of the Third Reich?
Did it not hear the words of Hitler's broadcasts all over the world?
Did it not read his intentions
in Mein Kampf...published in every corner of the world?
Where is the responsibility of the Soviet Union...who signed in the pact with Hitler...enabling him to make war?
Are we now to find Russia guilty?
Where is the responsibility of the Vatican...who signed in the concordat with Hitler...giving him his first tremendous prestige?
Are we now to find the Vatican guilty?
Where is the responsibility of the world leader Winston Churchill...who said in an open letter to the London Times:
"Were England to suffer a national disaster, I should pray to God..."to send a man of the strength of mind and will of an Adolf Hitler."
Are we now to find Winston Churchill guilty?
Where is the responsibility of those American industrialists...who helped Hitler to rebuild his armaments, and profited by that rebuilding?
Are we now to find the American industrialists guilty?
Germany alone is not guilty.
The whole world is as responsible for Hitler as Germany.
It's easy to condemn the German people.....to speak of the basic flaw in the German character...that allowed Hitler to rise to power, but also...
comfortably ignore the basic flaw of character...
that made the Russians sign pacts with him, Winston Churchill praise him...American industrialists profit by him, and the Vatican sign a Concordat with him.
Judgement at Nuremberg
1961
More about how much the rubberstamp congress supports those who are fighting for their freedoms,
ReplyDeleteAbout 100,000 of the approximately 127,000 U.S. troops in Iraq are Army. Most of the rest are Marines.
When Congress took longer than the Pentagon expected to approve an emergency spending bill for war costs last spring, the Army imposed temporary spending cutbacks that it expected to lift once the extra money was approved.
In its announcement Thursday, the Army said it has decided to extend most of those cutbacks until the end of the budget year on Sept. 30. Among the reasons cited: the high costs of war and an expectation that Congress may approve less money for the Army in the 2007 budget than the White House requested.
The Army said it will limit its purchase of supplies to those that are deemed critical to war requirements; cancel or postpone all nonessential travel; stop the shipment of goods unless they are needed for deployed or deploying troops; freeze the hiring of new civilians; restrict use of government credit cards; freeze all new contract awards, and release temporary employees and some service-contract workers.
Meanwhile, Army officials traveled to Capitol Hill this week to urge members of Congress not to slash funding for aircraft programs.
same link
cutting a militaries budget as it fights TWO wars?
How real do they get?
can't find enough money for fighting a war with all the Tax cuts, that are more important than the war on terra, but their actions, not their lying rhetoric.
I have some left over blue bills from when I was a kid.....strictly for people to afraid to accept the truth.
ReplyDeleteBrig. Gen. Stephen D. Mundt told reporters that congressional plans to cut about $90 million from the Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter program and eliminate all $109 million for the development of a new cargo aircraft would trigger as much as a two-year delay and increase the overall cost of both programs.
ReplyDeleteMilitary analyst Dan Goure of the Lexington Institute said cutting nearly a third of the $275 million requested for the helicopter is unwarranted because it is a low-risk program that will provide a much-needed replacement for the Army's aging fleet of Kiowa Warriors.
"It makes no sense to delay this program," Goure said. "It is a risk to the Soldiers, and it poses additional costs on the Army at a time when it's already struggling."
The cargo plane, said Mundt, would be able to take off and land on much smaller runways, and would give the Army and Air Force access to thousands of airfields around the world that existing cargo aircraft cannot use. They include almost 30 additional airfields in Iraq, and 10 more in Afghanistan, he said.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,106421,00.html?ESRC=army.nl
Why does the congress want the troops to be exposed to more IED's because they have to drive to airbases because the transport aircraft can not use those fieldswhy is the repug controlled congress so soft on terra?
Clif, the saddest part is our money went to an illegal war and was wasted! The Iraq War was the biggest financial transaction in history.
ReplyDeleteTT, what was the Desert One? I might know the situation but have never heard that title before.
I love how the neocons use previous president's actions to defend their president.
ReplyDeleteWho are you all going to blame for the years between 2001-2009? The Ancient Pharaohs?
Clif the right wing WH and the right wing Congress doesn't two shits about our soldiers. General Smedley Butler said years ago that war is a rackett started by wealthy men to achieve more wealth. They don't care about the soldiers doing all the work to help them achieve their goals. Hell, they don't care about the employees who work for their companies either. They're self-centered, arrogant, warmongering arses.
ReplyDeleteTiny inTellects said;
ReplyDeleteKay: "There are no accidents."
What do you call the Desert One disaster under Jimmy Carter?
a disaster
Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival?
ReplyDeleteCan you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it be for love?
Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception. Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose.
Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now?
Kay: "There are no accidents."
ReplyDeleteWhat do you call the plane crash that killed Paul Wellstone?
Bush, as usual, is throwing more fuel on the fire by ignoring Pakistan and it's nuclear program:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060726/world.htm#1
Here's an excerpt from the article:
Justifying Indian concerns that the report will provide ammunition for Washington’s non-proliferation lobby, Congressman Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, said, “The nuclear arms race in South Asia is about to ignite, and instead of doing everything possible to stop this vicious cycle, the Bush Administration is throwing fuel on the fire.”
“If either India or Pakistan starts increasing its nuclear arsenal, the other side will respond in kind; and the Bush Administration’s proposed nuclear deal with India is making that much more likely,” he complained.
Mr Markey, sent a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice demanding the release of a report on all foreign persons known to be engaging in proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. He cited rumours that the State Department is withholding the document from Congress because its contents would embarrass the Bush administration while it is pushing for final passage of the India deal.
“It would be absolutely unacceptable if the State Department purposefully withheld information relating to Indian entities engaged in proliferation of weapons of mass destruction until after the Congress considers the U.S.-India nuclear agreement,” Mr. Markey said.
Lookie tiny inTellect is googling the word accident to find one his favorite Blog lady will talk to him about,
ReplyDeletemust be real starved for attention, that boy......
Clif, you obviously don't play chess.
ReplyDeleteDid it not know the intentions of the Third Reich?...
ReplyDeleteJohnny, is your background Jewish?
I'm glad you mentioned Paul Wellstone's plane crash. He was AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR wholeheartedly and suddenly.....he and his family are dead. Many believe that he was intentionally killed to silence him because he was very vocal about it! No one has proof of that but it just seems really freaking odd that he died when he did. It's no different than the Bush Regime outing Valerie Plame's identity and CIA front company.
ReplyDeleteThey're vile and devious people and will do anything to silence the opposition. All fascists are like that.
FF said
ReplyDelete'Johnny, is your background Jewish?"
No FF, my blood is mostly French... my offspring and I are guilty of reading the writings of the beautiful Anne Frank.....we are guilty of being human I guess.
I'm glad you mentioned Paul Wellstone's plane crash. He was AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR wholeheartedly and suddenly.....he and his family are dead. Many believe that he was intentionally killed to silence him because he was very vocal about it! No one has proof of that but it just seems really freaking odd...
ReplyDelete-dkb
I agree. Also smells funny that no one is buying dixie chix albums. This has KKKarl Rove's fingerprints all over it.
No FF, my blood is mostly French... my offspring and I are guilty of reading the writings of the beautiful Anne Frank.....we are guilty of being human I guess.
ReplyDelete-Johnny Moomeister
Yes a beautiful human being devoured by monsters. Never again my friend. Shalom.
At least FF gets my point.
ReplyDeleteTiny inTellect said;
ReplyDeleteClif, you obviously don't play chess.
actually quite well son,
but what does bringing up unconnected events have to do with the total clusterfvck the administration has become,
and the complete fiasco their war on terra has become,
with iraq falling into or already in a CIVIL WAR, and Afghanistan's President Karzai worried about losing to the Taliban five years after they declare victory,
no son these morons running this government ain't no strategical titans
they aren't even good checker players
Never again!!
ReplyDeleteSo, you're saying the Dixie Chicks aren't doing good in the red states. Well no shit! They travel the world, you know, and thankfully don't rely on the red staters to get by, otherwise, they'd be very very poor.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, if our economy relied on the red states only, we'd be as powerful as the Cayman Islands is to the rest of the world!
Thank the Goddess for the blue states.
Hey, Clif, I can't help it if KKKarl Rove, Nazi Pig that he is, cleaned your clock in the last three elections.
ReplyDeleteHe is a master chess player and a mean poker player.
What was Kerry?
TT
ReplyDeleteWhen you set up that blog, I,ll play you a game of online chess...I am the Master...LOL!
Perhaps I should change my handle to Master Moo Moo?
ReplyDeleteFF
ReplyDeleteWhats your background?
So, you're saying the Dixie Chicks aren't doing good in the red states. Well no shit!
ReplyDelete-dkb
Yes they hafta "go where the fans are" which is anywhere but United States of America. Blue states are much too sophisticated to listen to country.
Good riddance; I'll listen to Sara Evans and Lee Greenwood.
Rehash.......Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!
ReplyDeleteOK, Johnny, you're on. You may beat me since I haven't played in awhile, but it's a great game.
ReplyDeleteThank the Goddess for the blue states...
ReplyDelete-dkb
Aw there you go with the wiccan stuff again.
It's so interesting how many 'suicides' and 'crashes' happen to the people close to the Bush family and their coherts:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.zen13351.zen.co.uk/reflect/my%20thoughts/bush%20body%20count.htm
Whats your background?
ReplyDelete-Johnny Moomeister
I was raised Christian, but now worship the BeaverTree.
TT said
ReplyDelete"You may beat me since I haven't played in awhile, but it's a great game."
Translation.....I'm a chess wizard...LOL!
The repugs are running from bush but ain't running on much at all....
ReplyDeleteRepublicans Running From Bush (Part 1, Updated):
So, so, so Senator John Thune, the Republican who defeated Tom Daschle in 2004, had one of those rare moments of DC honesty last week when he said, "If I were running in the state this year, you obviously don't embrace the president and his agenda." And, if you look at the Republican candidates' websites in some of the truly close races, man, you can barely tell that a Republican is President.
Like, for instance, check out the site for Indiana congressman Mike Sodrel, in a tight race against Democrat Baron Hill, who proudly has a picture of himself with Bill Clinton on his home page. You can dig, into Sodrel's photo section, or the On the Issues section, and, while it may be there somewhere, damned if the Rude Pundit can find the words "George Bush," let alone an image of the man that's ostensibly Sodrel's party's leader.
But if you go back, via Archive.org's Wayback Machine, why you can find that back in June of 2004, why Mike Sodrel had Bush's grinnin' puss on his home page. Hell, Sodrel even touted his closeness to President Bush, with the chair of the Indiana Republican Party promising that Sodrel "will fight alongside President Bush" on defense issues. And, at one point, Sodrel had a section just for pictures of himself with the Bush/Cheney campaign. What a difference two years makes, huh? To go from proud and open butt boy to cowering closeted cretin in so short a time, despite the fact that there's little evidence that Sodrel ever actually opposed Bush on anything.
And that's the way it goes for so many Republicans, running away from Bush like so many rats on so many ships heading into the drink. Back in 2002, to continue picking on Indiana, Chris Chocola prominently featured Tom DeLay and Dick Cheney on his campaign site's homepage, with Bush mentioned throughout. Now, much like Sodrel, the Rude Pundit can't find hide nor hair of the President on Chocola's website in his campaign against Joe Donnelly.
Let's keep this party going - but, fuck, it'll have to wait because Archive.org just got all flaky and is rejecting the Rude Pundit's advances.
More as soon as it's back.
Update: According to Google, Chris Chocola's entire site mentions the word "Bush" only once. The same thing goes for Mike Sodrel's site. One mention. That ain't runnin'. It's screaming crazy to get away.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2006/07/republicans-running-from-bush-part-1.html
"I'm not sure where we went wrong," says KayinMaine, nervously fondling the recycled paper cup holding her organic Kona soy latte. "It seems like only yesterday Rain was a carefree little boy at the Montessori school, playing non-competitive musical chairs with the other children and his care facilitators."
ReplyDelete"But now..." she pauses, staring out the window of her postmodern Durham home. The words are hesitant, measured, bearing a tale of family heartbreak almost too painful for her to recount. "But now, Rain insists that I call him Bobby Ray."
Even as her voice is choked with emotion, she summons an inner courage -- a mother's courage -- and leads me down the hall to "Bobby Ray's" bedroom, for a firsthand glimpse at the psychic devastation that claimed her son.
She opens the door to a reveal a riot of George Jones CDs, reflective 'mudflap mama' stickers, empty foil packs of Red Man, and U.S. Marine recruiting posters. In the middle of the room: a makeshift table made from a utility cable spool, bearing a the remains of a gutted catfish.
"This used to be all Ikea," she says, rocking on heels between heaved sobs. "It's too late for us. Maybe it's not to late for me to warn others."
Pandora's Moon Pie Box
While poignant, Kay's painful battle to save her son is far from isolated. Across coastal America, increasing numbers of families are discovering that their children have been lured into "Cracker" culture -- a new, freewheeling underground youth movement that celebrates the hedonistic thrills of frog-gigging and outlaw modified sprint cars. No one knows their exact number, but sociologists say that the movement is exploding among young people in America's most fashionable zip codes.
"We first detected it a few years ago, with the emergence of the trucker hat phenomenon," says Gerard Levin, professor of abnormal sociology at the University of California. "At first we thought it was some sort of benign, ironic strain. By the time we realized the early wearers really were interested in seed corn hybrids and Peterbilts, it had already escaped containment."
Levin points to 'Patient Zero,' who in 1997 was a 23-year old graduate student in Gender Studies at San Francisco State University.
"During a cross-country trip to New York, he stopped at the Iowa 80 Truck Stop in Walcott, Iowa, and bought a John Deere gimme cap as a gag souvenir," says Levin. "Within a year, he had dropped out of graduate school, abandoned his SoMa apartment, and and was working at a drive-thru liquor store. Today he is a wealthy televangelist in Bossier City, Louisiana."
continued at:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/
iowahawk/2004/11/blue_state
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Yesterday on "The Daily Show," Jon Stewart interviewed Senator John McCain and immediately had him squirming with his first question: "President Bush has been very clear that, through his leadership, he has made the world safer. My question to you is simply this: how much safer can the world afford to have him make us?" McCain dodged the question repeatedly — prompting Stewart to actually say, "Don’t dodge the question!"
ReplyDeletehttp://www.crooksandliars.com/
It's so interesting how many 'suicides' and 'crashes' happen to the people close to the Bush family...
ReplyDelete-dkb
Yes, we all know that's no coinkydink. Nattery mein and the ditzy chits had best watch their steps if they know what's good for them.
From KEITH OLBERMANN: Subject -- Response to Ailes. "Over the line?" Where was Roger Ailes when Bill O'Reilly defended the Nazi SS stormtroopers from Malmedy in World War II? The SS shot 84 American POW's there in 1944, and three different times in the last year, Bill called has called those dead American heroes war criminals. I guess there is no line at Fox News.
ReplyDeletehttp://poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=11645
FF said
ReplyDelete"I was raised Christian, but now worship the BeaverTree."
Would I be incorrect in stating the Beaver Tree promotes evil of the flesh?
Who is responsible for creating such a tree?
Johnny, I was pretty good as a kid, I don't know how good I am now. I used to like to set up a sacrifice and entice the opponent to take it, then I would move in with my knight and fork the king and queen with my knight, but that was years ago. I bet you could beat me know.
ReplyDeleteCliff said
ReplyDelete"Bill called has called those dead American heroes war criminals. I guess there is no line at Fox News."
Are you sure of this Cliff...seems kinda F@cked?
TT
ReplyDeleteBet I couldnt....LOL!
Would I be incorrect in stating the Beaver Tree promotes evil of the flesh?
ReplyDeleteWho is responsible for creating such a tree?
-JMM
Why George Dubya (aka Satan) of course; he's responsible for creating all the evil in the world. Hey haven't you been paying attention?
Hey clippy, shouldn't you be over playin wit wharf rat and the other sheep boys?
ReplyDeleteJohnny said:
ReplyDeleteAre you sure of this Cliff...seems kinda F@cked?
Yes Johnny, he has done it TWICE, one time in front of Gen. Wesley Clark, right after Hadithia became news...
Olbermann called them on it good,
FF said
ReplyDelete'Why George Dubya (aka Satan) of course; he's responsible for creating all the evil in the world. Hey haven't you been paying attention?'
:D
Troll Tex said "Johnny, I was pretty good as a kid, I don't know how good I am now. I used to like to set up a sacrifice and entice the opponent to take it, then I would move in with my knight and fork the king and queen with my knight, but that was years ago. I bet you could beat me know."
ReplyDeleteIf you are as good as you debate here troll tex i'd wager you would be in trouble, repugs lack creative thinking, they think two dimensionally and only focus on what THEY WANT, much like a hyperactive 8 year old, hence all the problems abroad and domestically, their foreign policy is to be jack booted thugs.
Cliff
ReplyDeleteThe Germans performed this atrocious act in retaliation for all the bombing's of German city's.
fantasy foole said;
ReplyDeleteWhy George Dubya (aka Satan) of course;
he ain't thaty good, actually it is his incompetence not his actual trying to do evil that is the3 problem, if he was evil he would not screw up EVERYTHING like he does, but since he is too stupid to actually do the job it can't be fixed until jan 2009
he's responsible for creating all the evil in the world.
Not all son...just what he screws up you know just what ever he touches.....
Hey haven't you been paying attention?
actually yes..and that is why I call bush stupid and cheney evil
BTW Johnny, WHY ARE YOU HERE??
ReplyDeleteyou dont believe in anything lydia says, you dont believe in god, you arent even from the USA....supposedly and you are not a liberal...............so you are either here because you are a complete wacco obsessed with Lydia or because you are a paid blog troll.
Sorry I just dont believe you wandered in her one cold blusterry evening looking for Internet friends, they have chat rooms for that.
Go away, Gravy mike, this isnt your blog anymore....go look at all those pics of lydia you ordered or something....
ReplyDeleteHey check this out. Apparently wharf is eating worms:
ReplyDeleteOde to the Trolls
To all of the trolls who are reading this now
In truth just let me be clear
That its me that you hate
Yet my words won't abate
Cause you're reading them now that you're here
You lurk and you hide, and you feebishly probe
As you speculate whose in command
But it's Lydia's blog
I'm a wheel in a cog
And you apparently don't understand.
So to Johnny, TT, FF and Voltaire
And the others too lowly to name
I am here cause of you
And I'll stay right here too
Cause I'm sick of your lying troll game.
A poet! Who'd a thunk?
Johnny said;
ReplyDeleteThe Germans performed this atrocious act in retaliation for all the bombing's of German city's.
not a justification for them, unless you happen to agree with them,
cold blooded murder of American troops or any other soldiers after they have surrendered is NEVER justified ...except by the true believers...which the neo-cons today are in our country
... he is too stupid to actually do the job it can't be fixed until jan 2009
ReplyDelete-clippy
What a relief! Thank gawd they're gonna fix those damns Diebold machines so libs can finally win.
BTW, Gravy mike....WHY ARE YOU HERE? I was here before you mustard lips....
ReplyDeleteCliff
ReplyDeleteDid you miss my word "ATROCIOUS?"
[George Dubya] ain't thaty good, actually it is his incompetence not his actual trying to do evil that is the3 problem...
ReplyDelete-clippy
Um...does your sweetie dkb know you think Dubya is just bumbling nice guy? There goes your shot wit her, dude.
OMG
ReplyDeleteworf's a poet???
I have a new respect for him....LOL!!
johnny moo moo said...
ReplyDeleteCliff
Did you miss my word "ATROCIOUS?"
No johnny, and I was not insinuating that you approve, just Bill does since he distorted it to make the NAzi's innocent and Americans guilty
fantasy foole said;
ReplyDeleteUm...does your sweetie dkb know you think Dubya is just bumbling nice guy? There goes your shot wit her, dude.
don't know don't care..
Hell even before he "won" I guessed he was a idiot front man for cheney and the PNAC crowd
That's right Volt, and as Kay said "There are no accidents."
ReplyDeleteWell, thats wrong Cliff....although my speciality is the Eastern Front ,I have also studied thisa ction intensely....
ReplyDeleteDid you know Col.Piper was murdered in his home, like twenty years after this incident?
OMG worf's a poet???
ReplyDeleteI have a new respect for him....LOL!!
-JMM
Yes, Johnny it's true. I'm pretty sure the poem should be recited to the rap track from Baby's Got Back.
So nice to know he misses us tho. Right now he's only got clippy cutting and pasting from the Elders of Zion between spelling errors, and Mikey speaking in tongues without any punctuation while eating pretzels.
FF thinks we wear tin foil hats...and the limp man comes up with this GEM...
ReplyDeleteRUSH: ... I hate to say this, but you have to trust me. There are people in this White House who would blow you away with their intellect, and the president is one of them if he chose to address you in that way. Why he doesn't is not because he doesn't think we can't understand it or won't believe it. There's something else going on here. There is a shadow government out there, Len. There's a shadow government going on out there that's doing its best to sabotage everything that we're doing.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=24292
Yes Rush...oxycodone doea affect brian cells so you might have an excuse..
rush thinks there is a goverbnment that does not get elected...it simply is...and has MORE power than the president and congress..
Do we need any more proof he's back on the illecite drugs again?
Volt said
ReplyDelete"He intentionally leaves out stuff to make his position "look" better."
Unbecoming of an officer!
I have only read one story where an officer broke his code of honor and, that was SS General Hermann Fegelein.
ReplyDeleteHe was married to Eva's sister, Gretl....kinda chunky though.
Rush is a man of courage. Recall this satement on his radio program, heard live by millions of Americans:
ReplyDelete"Broadcast nationally over the EIB Network October 10, 2003)
"You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life. So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication.
"I first started taking prescription painkillers some years ago when my doctor prescribed them to treat post surgical pain following spinal surgery.
"Unfortunately, the surgery was unsuccessful and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs. I am still experiencing that pain. Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive.
"Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so. I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps.
"Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me. The show will continue during this time, of course, with an array of guest hosts you have come to know and respect.
"I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes. They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem.
"At the present time, the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete.
"So I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them. "I deeply appreciate all your support over this last tumultuous week. It has sustained me. I ask now for your prayers. I look forward to resuming our excursion into broadcast excellence together."
Do we need any more proof he's back on the illecite drugs again?
ReplyDelete-clippy
Well just to be sure we should call the swat team to storm his home and ransack his medicine cabinet.
Either that or just stop him at the airport and see if he has any contraban prescribed under a pseudonym. Then we can spill everything to the world media so he is ruined as an effective voice for the right.
This is only fair because he's just a common criminal who is a grave threat to us all.
I know you libs are not exactly "tigers" when it comes to enforcing drug abuse laws, but this is a perfect place to start.
/Such an egregious invasion of privacy could never happen to you or I anyway. Could it?
FF said
ReplyDelete"So nice to know he misses us tho. Right now he's only got clippy cutting and pasting"
Sniff....your breaking my heart.....NOT!!!
Like I said before TT, I respect his courage.
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't have to. SHE makes up original stuff as she goes along.
ReplyDelete-Voltaire
ROFLMFAO! Twue, twue.
It would seem that dkb doesn't do too well without fellow libs encouraging her hysterical Bush hatred.
dolty boy said...
ReplyDeleteNo Johnny he didn't miss it.
He intentionally leaves out stuff to make his position "look" better.
8:07 PM
johnny moo moo said...
Volt said
"He intentionally leaves out stuff to make his position "look" better."
Unbecoming of an officer!
8:14 PM
after I said;
clif said...
johnny moo moo said...
Cliff
Did you miss my word "ATROCIOUS?"
No johnny, and I was not insinuating that you approve, just Bill does since he distorted it to make the NAzi's innocent and Americans guilty
8:03 PM
Just check the time stamps and see who is intentionally leaves out stuff to make his position "look" better.
dolty boy said...
ReplyDeleteAw cliffy, you only did that because you got called on it.
Yea right I got called on it AFTER I clarified my position ..which is not normal for a repug so's ya'll couldn't understand that would ya'll?
SHERRY AND VICTORIA THIS IS MY OWN BLOG. PLEASE MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND GET YOUR OWN MAN.
ReplyDeletePosted by: LC
-from the Worf exile blog
Wow could it be that our hostess has romantic rivals posing here as trolls?
No, Im wrong, liberals are incapable of being clever.
ReplyDeleteIt also appears they were hittin on clippy -- proly his clever way with words...
ReplyDeleteNone of our business Volt...but Im sure the two of us could satisfy their anguish....as long as their not behemoths.
ReplyDeleteSo Volt, how was Blogger Hell?
ReplyDeletefantasy foole said...
ReplyDeleteSo Volt, how was Blogger Hell?
LGF...
Freeper....
or even worse ....
little green colloquium......
FF your right for once those places are hell, even for repugs I guess from your question
It appears that cindy sheehan's protest fast has brought her near the brink of death. Notice from these photos how malnourished and wan she appears. She has become a skelton -- mere skin and bones. Appalling.
ReplyDeleteHi cliffy. Looks like ya got secret admirers...
ReplyDeleteFantasy foole said;
ReplyDeleteWell just to be sure we should call the swat team to storm his home and ransack his medicine cabinet.
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Typical repug tactic at the FIRST hint...call out the swat team...not just talk to him...so predictable for repugs..
Either that or just stop him at the airport and see if he has any contraban prescribed under a pseudonym. Then we can spill everything to the world media so he is ruined as an effective voice for the right.
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Well like you guys keep claiming ...if you ain't got nothing to hide, you do not mind law enforcenemt that the patriot act now allows...
This is only fair because he's just a common criminal who is a grave threat to us all.
Not exactly true...first of all the limp man is definately a criminal but not quite common...most drug addicts do not make millions...and HIDE their addiction for years while attacking others for addiction
I know you libs are not exactly "tigers" when it comes to enforcing drug abuse laws, but this is a perfect place to start.
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I personnaly perfer treatment where the addict can recover...but rush is the law enforcement first who wants it for everybody buit HIM
/Such an egregious invasion of privacy could never happen to you or I anyway. Could it?
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well with the idiot in chief claiming powers that do not exist anything is possible...but me I don't worry to much about it like some do....
Im toast
ReplyDeleteMore exposing tommorow.
Sleep well!
NO, not informing worfeus , but others on how dishonest you trolls really are to bad your not put under the same hypocritical scope you put others under
ReplyDeleteClif, give wharf my warmest regards in Lydia's inferno, blogger hell, or whatever it's called. Buy him a beer on me to cool off.
ReplyDeleteAs George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice huddle with representatives of old-line Arab regimes and as Israel continues pounding targets in Lebanon, it is becoming increasingly clear why al-Qaeda leader Osama bin-Laden wanted Bush to gain a second term as U.S. President.
ReplyDeleteOn Oct. 29, 2004, just four days before the U.S. election, bin-Laden took the risk of breaking nearly a year of silence to release a videotape denouncing Bush. The CIA quickly reached a classified conclusion that bin-Laden knew that his anti-Bush tirade would spur more American voters to back Bush for another four years in office.
CIA analysts recognized that bin-Laden saw Bush’s policies – such as the Guantanamo prison camp, the Abu Ghraib scandal and the Iraq War – as playing into al-Qaeda’s hands by creating a new generation of Islamic jihadists and undermining pro-U.S. Arab governments.
“Certainly,” CIA deputy associate director for intelligence Jami Miscik told a senior meeting of CIA analysts, “he [bin-Laden] would want Bush to keep doing what he’s doing for a few more years,” according to Ron Suskind’s The One Percent Doctrine.
As the CIA analysts reviewed this internal assessment, they grew troubled by its implications. “An ocean of hard truths before them – such as what did it say about U.S. policies that bin-Laden would want Bush reelected – remained untouched,” Suskind wrote. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “CIA: Osama Helped Bush in ’04.”]
Meanwhile, in the hours after the Osama videotape was released, pro-Bush pundits fell into the trap by defining bin-Laden’s rant as an endorsement of John Kerry. Heading into the election, Bush’s support jumped six percentage points in one poll.
Popular Rage
Today, bin-Laden’s strategy makes even more sense. Bush’s violent policies for reshaping the Middle East are spreading popular rage as the death toll mounts in Lebanon from Israeli air strikes against Hezbollah guerrilla strongholds and as Palestinians continue to die from Israel’s crackdown in Gaza, following raids that captured three Israeli soldiers.
Just as Bush and his advisers see the carnage as “birth pangs of a new Middle East” – in the words of Condoleezza Rice – so bin-Laden perceives the same violence as crucial for his own vision of a “new Middle East,” by isolating the dwindling number of pro-Bush leaders in the Arab world from the “Arab street.”
Compounding this Arab political problem, the Bush administration has even boasted of the anti-Hezbollah positions taken by the leaders of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan – exposing those autocratic leaders to furious criticism from their citizens.
This dilemma appears to have contributed to a surprising development on July 23 after Bush invited some of his more reliable friends from the Saudi monarchy to a strategy session at the White House.
However, instead of simply endorsing Bush’s hard-line support for Israel’s Lebanese offensive, Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal delivered a letter from Saudi King Abdullah beseeching Bush to pressure Israel to stop its attack inside Lebanon that have killed nearly 400 people, mostly civilians.
“We requested a cease-fire to allow for a cessation of hostilities,” the Saudi foreign minister told reporters after the meeting. “I have brought a letter from the Saudi king to stop the bleeding in Lebanon.”
White House officials said Bush rebuffed the king’s appeal and remained adamantly opposed to the idea of pressuring Israel into a cease-fire. Though the Saudis and other Sunni governments see a threat from the rising influence of Shiite-ruled Iran, which backs Hezbollah, they also are worried about being viewed by their own populations as Bush’s puppets.
‘Bandar Bush’
Underscoring Bush’s predicament – appealing for help from old friends who find their pro-U.S. positions more and more troublesome back home – the rocky White House meeting even included the longtime Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who is now the secretary-general of the Saudi National Security Council.
Over the past quarter century, the cigar-smoking Bandar has lent a hand to Republican administrations on operations from the Iran-Contra Affair in the 1980s to the response to the 9/11 attacks, which involved 14 Saudi hijackers working for bin-Laden, the scion of another prominent Saudi family.
In the hours after the 9/11 attacks, Bandar met with Bush and helped arrange an airlift of well-connected Saudis, including members of the bin-Laden family, out of the United States. Bandar has been such an intimate of the Bush family that he earned the nickname “Bandar Bush.”
Yet not even “Bandar Bush” could keep the Saudi king from sending a letter that suggests a rift in the historic alliance between Riyadh and Washington.
While Bush’s latest strategy was to use the Saudis to pressure Syria into splitting from Iran as well as abandoning the Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon, the image of Saudi royals arriving for meetings with Bush also was perfect for bin-Laden’s goal of radicalizing the Arab masses.
Bin-Laden has long targeted the Saudi royals because of their strategic support for the United States in the Middle East. But the Saudi princes now find themselves in a tight spot because even their favored Islamic clerics have denounced the intensity of the Israeli attacks on Lebanon.
Sheik Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, the senior Saudi imam, delivered a sermon from Islam’s holiest site in Mecca on July 21 praising the bravery of the Palestinians and Lebanese in their confrontation with Israel and urging Muslim leaders to “unify their ranks.”
In a swipe at Bush and his administration’s lectures about freedom and democracy, Rahman asked, “Don’t they fear that history will condemn them for their double standards?” [NYT, July 22, 2006]
Other Islamic clerics were even blunter in their criticism of pro-U.S. Arab leaders.
“Where are the Arab leaders?” demanded Sheik Hazzaa al-Maswari, an Islamist politician in Yemen. “Do they have any skill other than begging for a fake peace outside the White House? We don’t want leaders who bow to the White House.”
Mohamed al-Habash, a cleric who serves in the Syrian parliament, said the United States – in letting Israeli warplanes slaughter Lebanese women and children – was helping extremists attract more young Muslims to terrorism.
“The United States is creating more Zarqawis, more bin-Ladens in the Mideast every day,” Habash said. [NYT, July 22, 2006]
So, bin-Laden may well have been executing a clever stratagem when he released his “October Surprise” video in 2004. At the time, even Bush recognized the odd fact that bin-Laden’s video was a boon to his campaign.
“I thought it was going to help,” Bush said in a post-election interview with Washington Times reporter Bill Sammon. “I thought it would help remind people that if bin-Laden doesn’t want Bush to be the President, something must be right with Bush.” [Consortiumnews.com's “Bush Agrees Bin-Laden Helped in '04.”]
As Bush suggested, many undecided voters apparently did take bin-Laden’s words at face value and assumed that bin-Laden really wanted Bush defeated. In secret, the CIA had reached the opposite conclusion, that bin-Laden was playing a double game, pretending to want Bush out when he really wanted Bush to stay in.
With the Middle East descending into bloody chaos – and the radical Islamists exploiting the anger of the Arab masses – bin-Laden appears to winning on his bet that Bush’s war-like strategies would indeed create a “new Middle East,” though not the kind the United States had once envisioned.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/072406.html
Hey y'all,
ReplyDeleteCheck out Glen Greenwald, the left's most dishonest blogger. He's a rabid lib shyster masquerading as a Conservative who converted, and now is courted as the darling of all the libs like al franken of air head America radio.
Now he has been caught fraudulently posing as different posters lauding the brilliant success of...himself.
Here's how he describes himself on his blog:
For the past 10 years, I was a litigator in NYC specializing in First Amendment challenges, civil rights cases, and corporate and securities fraud matters.
So as a fighter of fraud, this champion of the first amendment deleted all of my posts on his site alluding to his sock puppetry.
The Fratlomat -- Commentary by Will Durst
ReplyDeleteIt was quite a performance the President put on at the G- 8 Summit in Saint Petersburg, Russia this year. If you, like me, understand the phrase “quite a performance” to mean “whoa, dude, chill.” Maybe a switch to decaffeinated is in order. “Yo, Blair.” That’s how he hailed the Prime Minister of Great Britain at a photo op at the closing of the conference. “Yo Blair.” Sounds like how I might greet one of my friends, but you know what, I’m not the President of the United States of America at a major world summit. Which, as Martha Stewart says, is a good thing.
Bush then proceeded to mumble some spurious advice to Tony Blair with a mouth full of partially masticated roll, answering once and for all why his staff goes to such lengths to keep him corralled like a roping calf in Crawford, Texas, where chewing with your mouth open is considered an art form as well as a compliment to the chef. We got some spoiled fruit running the country and he’s loose and playing frat boy diplomat with the big kids and everything is going horribly awry people!
As bored with the whole concept of diplomacy as a five year old stuck in the quantum physics section of a Jamaican library, and obviously distressed at not finding Premier Putin to gaze soul searchingly into the eyes of, Bush wandered around the big conference table finally lighting upon German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Distractedly, he began to give her a back rub prompting a typical Tuetonic reaction, in which Ms Merkel tensed up tighter than a retaining wire on the mast of a sailing ship in a force five gale. She hunched her shoulders, grimaced, and threw up her hands in an apparent plea for the World Court to augment Bush’s future war crimes trial with a sexual harassment charge.
What did he expect? For her to turn around and whisper seductively, “I’ll give you a week to cut that out?” She’s German for crum’s sake. East German. Everyone knows the East Germans are as cuddly as a stainless steel teddy bear. I imagine we should consider ourselves lucky he didn’t grab her butt and make “honk- honk” noises. Or pulled a “gotcha” where he pokes her in the chest and then tweaks her nose after she looks down. And you know the cupped hand under the armpit thing is definitely in his arsenal.
We haven’t even talked about the word that rhymes with spit and would cost me $325,000 if I accidentally blurted it out during my day job on the radio. The hypocrisy of him signing that sanctimonious bill is so thick you can scrape the excess mendacity off the top like froth off a cappuccino. THEN, without missing a beat, he asks President Hu of China, “how long does it take you to get home? 8 hours? Wow. Russia’s a big country. So is China, isn’t it?” Yes, George, China is a big country. Got a lot of people in it too. And Mexico. Great Mexican food. And full of Mexicans. But you already know that, because you speak Mexican, don’t you?
Can you imagine Roosevelt giving the Reichs Fuhrer a back rub? Well, actually, I guess Neville Chamberlain kind of did, but that’s not the point. Instead of grandstanding for its election year base, it is incumbent upon Congress to save our nation further embarrassments by passing a law immediately prohibiting all of the members of the Bush family from any televised meeting with a foreign leader where food is being served. And mittens. They should be required to wear mittens.
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/durst/20
Clif, feel free to cut and paste all night. Your gems are easily the most popular feature of this blog.
ReplyDeleteVolt, I noticed that fudgepack mountain comment by clif.
ReplyDeleteAnother repug perv caught again...will they ever learn or follow what they tell the rest of us to follow?
ReplyDeleteThomas Adams, longtime Green Oaks mayor and former chairman of the Lake County Republican Central Committee, was charged Monday with possession and distribution of child pornography.
Adams, 67, faces 11 counts of disseminating child pornography and two counts of possession. Lake County Judge Victoria Rossetti set his bond at $100,000.
Prosecutor Patricia Fix said sheriff's and state's attorney's investigators first received tips on Adams' alleged illegal activities in March 2005. Adams allegedly sent child pornography, via attachments to e-mail, to undercover police in Clearwater, Fla.
The alleged pornography includes both still images and at least one explicit movie of a boy masturbating, Fix said.
Several phony names were used in his alleged pornography trading, she said, but all were tracked back to Adams' home in the 800 block of Anderson Drive in Green Oaks.
After being taken into custody, Adams acknowledged that all of the screen names were his and that no one else used his computer, Fix said, adding that Adams admitted he had "a problem with addiction."
Defense attorney Thomas Briscoe argued for a minimal bond, saying Adams "has no criminal record, and these are all images, there are no live victims." Briscoe added that Adams "has been involved with public service most of his life."
http://www.sun-times.com/output/news/cst-nws-mayor25.html
Clif, feel free to cut and paste all night. Your gems are easily the most popular feature of this blog.
ReplyDelete-TalllTexan
LOL. Yeah I just can't get enough of clippy's insomnia curing screeds. Sheer brilliance. No wonder he's such a hit with the ladies.
Volt, all those liberals committing criminal acts were all framed by the vast rite wing conspiracy. This has KKKarl Rove's fingerprints all over it.
ReplyDeleteNice dolt here is the updated list of;
ReplyDeleteREPUG PERVERTS;
STOP REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA
1. Serial killer/rapist Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party
2. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
3. Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
4. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
5. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
6. Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
7. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.
8. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
9. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
10. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.
11. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
12. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
13. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
14. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks, an advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
15. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
16. Republican preacher Stephen White was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
17. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.
18. Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
19. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
20. Republican St. Louis Election Board official Kevin Coan was arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
21. Republican politician Andrew Buhr, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
22. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative, was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
23. Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
24. Republican legislator, Richard Gardner, a Nevada state representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
25. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
26. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
27. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
28. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
29. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
30. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
31. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
32. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
33. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
34. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
35. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
36. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
37. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
38. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
39. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
40. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
41. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
42. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having
sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
43. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
44. Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six
years in prison.
45. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of
young women.
46.Clifton Bennett, 18, the son of Arizona Senate Republican President Ken Bennett, and his co-defendant, Kyle Wheeler, 19, were charged in January with 18 counts of aggravated assault and 18 counts of kidnapping for the incidents, which happened at a youth camp last June. The younger Bennett confessed to police that he and Wheeler sodomized the 11- to 14-year-old boys with broomsticks and flashlights in at least 40 incidents, court documents show. Yavapai County prosecutors now say they'll drop all but one assault charge and likely recommend little or no jail time if Bennett agrees to plead guilty. Wheeler has been offered a similar deal but faces an additional assault charge for choking three boys until they passed out. The plea agreements were presented in court last week and could be finalized Monday.
47. Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial and convicted of pedophilia and found guilty of "aggravated sexual assault of a child, two counts of indecency with a child by contact and one count of indecency with a child by exposure."
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48. Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
49. Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
50. Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
51. Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
52. Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
53. Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls and convicted.
54. Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
55. Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
56. Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
57. Rev. Craig Stephen White convicted for "solicitation to commit involuntary sexual deviate intercourse, attempt at luring a child into a motor vehicle, solicitation to commit prostitution and corruption of minors."
58. Thomas Adams, longtime Green Oaks, Illinois, mayor and former chairman of the Lake County Republican Central Committee, was charged Monday with possession and distribution of child pornography. Adams, 67, faces 11 counts of disseminating child pornography and two counts of possession. Lake County Judge Victoria Rossetti set his bond at $100,000. 7/26
Not pedophiles but good repug hypocrites just they same...
Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who preached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger
Republican anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule
Republican Congressman Edward Schrock resigned from Congress after he was caught searching for sex on a gay telephone service. Listen to his telephone calls by clicking these files: File 1, File 2, File 3
Republican Mayor Jim West
championed an anti-gay agenda, but was later found to be gay himself
Republican preacher Jimmy Swaggart
preached fidelity, but cheated on
his wife with a prostitute
Republican Congressman Bob Livingston was about to vote for impeaching President Clinton for sexual improprieties until it was disclosed he was an adulterer
Republican Congressman Henry Hyde denounced President Clinton's extramarital affair, but was later found to be an adulterer himself
Republican Senator Bob Packwood
resigned from Congress after 29 women accused him of sexual harrassment
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which list would you choose to baby sit your children? Yours or Mine?
Ooooh. Looks like cut-and-paste wars are raging full force.
ReplyDeleteI suggest rather than actually read all this gibberish, we award victory based upon net weight.
Oh, and Afghanistan is still a mess too
ReplyDeleteThe current warfare in the Middle East has pushed Iraq out of the news cycle. And, of course, even before these latest hostilities, Iraq had already pushed Afghanistan out.
Well, it’s still there and it’s getting to be more and more of a mess.
(AP) U.S. Soldier Killed in Afghan Firefight
KABUL, Afghanistan — A roadside bomb exploded in the Afghan capital Tuesday, killing two Afghans riding in a taxi, as fighting in eastern provinces left a U.S. soldier and seven suspected Taliban dead, officials said.
Also, the Afghan government appealed for $76.4 million to tackle an “imminent food crisis” caused by prolonged drought, particularly in the north and northwest.
Read on; it’s depressing.
Iraq was never in the stars — at least that’s my take. In other words, even if Bush & Co. hadn’t royally screwed the occupation up, the end result would probably eventually have been the same.
They screwed the pooch on that one the day they started the war.
But there are legitimate reasons to believe that Afghanistan might have been different. Every indication in the early days was that the people, weary of years of war and extreme poverty, were ready to embrace a new way. If we’d kept our eye on the ball, instead of running off to the next excellent neocon adventure, and finished off the fighting capacity of the Taliban and their terrorist allies, real progress might have been possible.
It was a golden opportunity: But Bush, who seems to have a shorter attention span of a five-year-old boy, pissed it away.
And we will be paying the price for that blunder for many years to come.
http://www.lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=458
Bush to Nation: Let Me Fail Yet Another Time in Baghdad. So a Few More of Our Soldiers Get Killed. What Me Worry? Condi and Uncle Dick Will Take Care of Everything. I'm Just the GrOPer-in-Chief Anyway.
ReplyDeleteWASHINGTON -
President Bush said Tuesday a new plan to increase U.S. and Iraqi forces in the besieged capital of Baghdad will help quell rising violence that is threatening
Iraq's transformation to a self-sustaining democracy.
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"Obviously the violence in Baghdad is still terrible and therefore there needs to be more troops," Bush said in a White House news conference with visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
Al-Maliki, on his first trip to the United States since becoming prime minister two months ago, said he and Bush agreed that training and better arming Iraqi forces as quickly as possible, particularly in the capital city, was central to efforts to stabilize the country.
"And, God willing, there will be no civil war in Iraq," al-Maliki said, speaking through a translator.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060725/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_iraq;_ylt=AhdTKq81WUvDbu3GiPovEfWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-
Clif, who would you rather have as a babysitter, Clinton or Bush?
ReplyDelete400,000 Frozen Embryos
ReplyDeleteBut only 128 'snowflakes' have been adopted. Will the stem-cell veto hurt the GOP?
There’s no daylight between President Bush and what any Democrat is saying about the Middle East conflict. Polls show that Americans sympathize with Israel but don’t want us to get drawn into the fighting. The small band of neocons who beat the drums for war with Iraq are trying to goad Bush into doing whatever it takes to get rid of Hizbullah in Lebanon.
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“It reminds me of that old schoolyard taunt: ‘You and what army?’” says Matt Bennett of Third Way, a centrist group founded to challenge liberal orthodoxy. The neocons have not lost their faith in American invasions even as the fallout from Iraq emboldens Syria and Iran and threatens to engulf the region in all-out war. What this latest outbreak of violence means for Bush’s portfolio as he leads his party into the fall elections is anybody’s guess. It could overshadow the mess in Iraq and serve as a distraction for Republicans, or it could help Democrats by reminding voters how everything seems to be coming apart on Bush’s watch.
If this were a normal news time, the big story this week would be Bush’s veto of legislation to expand federally funded embryonic stem-cell research. Bush’s defiance on the issue has the potential of being as big a political gift for Democrats as the Massachusetts gay-marriage ruling was for Republicans in the last election. “The public clearly sides with science on this issue,” says Republican pollster Frank Luntz. But he adds that there are so many cutting-edge issues out there—Iraq, immigration, energy prices—that embryonic stem-cell research falls behind in comparison.
Sixty percent of Americans support this research (according to a recent Gallup review of polls on the subject), and when they see Bush holding up adoption as an alternative to scientific study, they know it’s a false choice. Most people understand intuitively that the overwhelming majority of embryos that are the byproduct of in vitro fertilization will not become babies, and real medical and scientific advances could be made if these embryos were available to scientists. Bush banned the media from watching him wield his veto pen, the first of his presidency; then he welcomed cameras as he explained his decision at a White House reception surrounded by “snowflake babies” and their grateful parents.
There are 400,000 embryos languishing in storage tanks at fertility clinics; only a very small number are candidates for adoption. “Even with federal funding available to encourage adoption, the number [of pregnancies from these embryos] is 128, which makes it conclusive that these 400,000 embryos will either be used for scientific research or thrown away,” said Republican Sen. Arlen Specter, who supports expanded research. The legislation, which passed by wide margins in the Republican-controlled House and Senate but fell short of a vetoproof two-thirds majority, would only use embryos that would otherwise be discarded, and then only with the written consent of the couple that created them
The impact of the newly energized stem-cell debate is being felt in individual races. Pennsylvania Rep. Curt Weldon, a toe-the-line conservative, surprised everybody by voting to overturn Bush’s veto despite having voted against the legislation. His Democratic challenger, retired Navy vice admiral Joe Sestak, thanked him for his reversal, likening it to John Kerry’s famous campaign faux pas, “I voted for it before I voted against it.” In Weldon’s case, he voted against it before he voted for it. Weldon is best known for believing that the jury is still out on WMD in Iraq. First elected in 1986, this is his first tough race. The last four Democrats who ran against him collectively raised $78,000, chump change. Sestak has raised more than a million dollars, even outpacing Weldon in the last quarter in part because of some pretty slimy personal attacks by Weldon that backfired.
In a conversation with NEWSWEEK, Sestak said he decided to run while living in the oncology ward of Children’s Hospital in Washington as his daughter, then 4 years old, was being treated for a brain tumor. “I’ve seen the other side,” he said, explaining that in his daughter’s room was a toddler diagnosed with acute leukemia whose parents were uninsured. Hearing their anguish helped crystallize his decision to seek office, as did his opposition to the Iraq war (“tragic misadventure,” he calls it). Once he learned his daughter was in remission, he drove to the county in Pennsylvania where he grew up and declared his intention to run for Congress. Recently retired after 31 years in the Navy, he had always harbored an admiration for politicians and served as director of defense policy in the Clinton White House.
Weldon accused him of being a carpetbagger because he was only renting in the district while his wife and daughter were still in the Washington area. When Sestak explained that his daughter remained in treatment, Weldon questioned why she wasn’t being treated in Philadelphia or Delaware, closer to home. The upshot was an outpouring of campaign contributions, mostly from liberal bloggers incensed by Weldon’s cheap shot. Sestak and his wife eventually posted a letter thanking everybody but asking that future donations in the name of their daughter, Alexandra, now 5, be directed to cancer-treatment centers. This is an unusually personal race, but that's what it takes to engage voters when so much else is going on.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13973858/site/newsweek/
Looks like the reichwingnut christians just got Enroned;
ReplyDeleteBaptist Group's Leaders Convicted
Investors Lost $585 Million
Two former executives of a failed Southern Baptist foundation were convicted here Monday in what prosecutors said was the nation's largest fraud ever targeting members of a religious group.
William Pierre Crotts, who was president of the Baptist Foundation of Arizona, and Thomas Dale Grabinski, the group's former chief legal counsel, were each convicted of three counts of fraud and one count of conducting an illegal enterprise in a scheme that lasted decades and cheated 11,000 investors across the country of about $585 million.
In a trial that lasted 10 months, prosecutors claimed that the executives were driven by shame to hide the foundation's mounting investment losses, bilking investors who were recruited in Southern Baptist churches and by Bible-quoting salesmen who visited their homes. Investors were told their money would help Southern Baptist causes, such as building new churches, and were promised above-market returns.
Instead, prosecutors said Crotts and Grabinski had designed a Ponzi scheme in which new investors were needed to pay off the secret mounting debt. Donald Conrad, an Arizona assistant attorney general, characterized Crotts and Grabinski during closing arguments as business failures who defrauded investors in part to "feed their financial fantasies" that they were savvy businessmen.
The pair were handcuffed and led from Maricopa County Superior Court after the verdict.
Prosecutors failed to show that Crotts and Grabinski profited personally from the fraud, which involved hiding millions of dollars of losses in shell companies they created to conceal the losses. The two men were acquitted of 23 theft counts.
Defense attorneys had argued that the foundation could have been able to pay off investors if state regulators had not forced it to stop selling securities in 1999. Grabinski's attorney, Daryl Williams, said Arizona officials simply did not understand the foundation's complicated finances.
The two former executives will be sentenced Sept. 29. Each faces a maximum sentence of more than 46 years, according to the attorney general's office. James D. Porter, a foundation investor and Crotts family friend, said he believes that Crotts is innocent despite the verdict.
"The truth is not determined by what this court said," Porter said. "Righteous people have spent time in jail before."
Since the foundation's 1999 bankruptcy, five other employees or associates have pleaded guilty in connection with the fraud.
The foundation was an official agency of the Arizona Southern Baptist Convention, which is affiliated with the national Southern Baptist Convention. The foundation's accounting firm was Arthur Andersen LLP, which collapsed after allegations that it had helped Enron Corp. conceal its mounting business problems. In 2002, Arthur Andersen agreed to pay the state of Arizona $217 million to settle a lawsuit over its work for the Baptist foundation.
Foundation investor Bob Shaw, 59, a car salesman, said he recovered about 68 percent of the $250,000 he invested with the foundation. But he said Monday's verdicts were more satisfying than getting his money back.
"When they walked out of there in handcuffs," Shaw said, "that was justice for me."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/24/AR2006072400948.html?referrer=emailarticle
Clibnton..he is not a child moslester, nor a drunk..and he is interested in people not just himself...and he wouldn't ignore a possible dangerous situation or disaster just because he had to cut brush..
ReplyDeleteAlso Clinton has a higher IQ than my 10 year old
Clif, who would you rather have as a babysitter, Clinton or Bush?
ReplyDelete-TalllTexan
Great question, dude. Clif would surely take slick willie because nothing is more important than blind allegiance to his lib religion and sick, depressing world view.
Also Clinton has a higher IQ than my 10 year old
ReplyDelete-clippy
He's also much more truthful than my used car salesman.
And your used car salesman is more honest than BUSH has been foole
ReplyDeleteLooks like the israeli military got more of a fight than they figgered on,
ReplyDeleteIf you read Reuven Pedatzur's article in Haaretz attentively, you will see that he is indicting the Israeli armed forces as incompetent and also will detect that he is extremely alarmed. Despite his confidence, expressed at the outset, that Israeli military mistakes (primarily grossly underestimating Hizbullah) will not affect the course of the war, he admits that it will cast a shadow over its public reception. I don't think we can rule out an impact on the course of the war yet.
Wire services report
' Israeli Armed Forces effectives returning from the Lebanon’s front, say they are facing an intelligent, well prepared and ruthless guerrilla. The soldiers describe Hezbollah guerrillas hide between civilians and in underground bunkers that are two or three stories deep, evidence that this has been prepared for years. They are hard to beat and show no fear of dying, expressed an Israeli soldier. '
The Israelis are finding that the Hizbullah guerrillas have excellent intelligence on Israeli weaponry, and that they are capable of fighting orderly tactical battles from buildings with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades. In other words, they are not facing the militia of tobacco share croppers. They are facing a highly professional military force, perhaps the most professional in the region aside from Israel's own.
The Israeli military is rapidly scaling back its military goals, since the ones initially announced with such confidence (pushing Hizbullah back 35 miles and completely destroying its missile arsenal) are obviously pie in the sky. The Israelis are stumbling around so badly that yesterday they lost a helicopter and killed 6 of their own men (it could have been much worse).
http://www.juancole.com/
Much like Bush cheney and the neo-con cabal did in Iraq.....
Democrats Vow to Fight On After Zarqawi Loss
ReplyDeleteby Scott Ott
(2006-06-09) — As Blackberry devices and cell phones on Capitol Hill hummed with news of the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi yesterday, Congressional Democrats vowed that despite the loss they would fight on in “the war on the war on terror.”
“Zarqawi will be missed because he put a human face on the futility of the illegal U.S. occupation of Iraq,” said one unnamed lawmaker, who assured a reporter that “Democrats are still optimistic. We’re still looking for the silver lining.”
Rep. John Murtha, D-PA, a former Marine and vocal critic of the military occupation of Iraq, immediately denounced “the Zarqawi massacre” and suggested that the F-16 pilot who dropped the bombs had snapped under pressure and murdered the al Qaeda leader “in cold blood.”
Sen. Arlen Specter, R-PA, demanded an explanation of the secret intelligence gathering techniques and surveillance used to find Mr. Zarqawi.
“I want to give the president an opportunity to explain the program to the Congress and to assure the American people that nobody’s civil rights were violated,” said Sen. Specter.
Meanwhile, Democrat National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and former presidential candidate Al Gore observed a moment of silence as they heard of the passing of Mr. Zarqawi, a fellow Internet pioneer.
Liberals love terrorists. Literally:
ReplyDeleteI Don’t Want to Love You, But I Do
You were born out of death to a life in a cage
Where bombs are not the only reason people die
Fed by the violence of hunger and homelessness
Raised by colonialism
Your heart and your will still grew strong
You scare me
Not just because they tell me to be scared
Not just because they repeat, repeat, repeat
The story of 1983
Begging me to understand
Americans are worth more than Lebanese
Why do they never tell me about Jihad al Bina
That you have created so much
Saved so many lives
Improved so many more
It scares me
When I admit to myself
That I would be more scared without you
If I still took the time to see
To see the violence that does not just fall from the skies
that exists in hunger and homelessness
in colonialism
It scares me
That my hope is tangled up
In actions I would never want to commit
But I don’t sleep much these days
And I’ve tried hard
But I haven’t found
Anything
to give me hope that they will listen
They repeat, repeat, repeat
The story of Gaza withdrawal
Hoping we won’t see
The violence that continues
That kills in so many ways
Hoping we will now support it
Or at least stop looking
They insist talk does not work
When there is no one to talk to
It is hard to find an interlocutor
When you’re not willing to listen
To see
To feel
How do you keep faith that talk will work
When even they are insisting it won’t?
I am learning to have hope in you
I am learning to see you as so much more
Than those actions I would never want to commit
You amaze me.
Born out of death to a life in a cage
Raised by colonialism
You did not accept imprisonment as natural
You did not accept hunger as justice
You did not accept
the ceaseless killing in so many ways
Of those next to you
Or those farther away
I love you
But I will never be yours
I don’t want you inside me
You are too male for me
And I cannot, gratefully, fully silence the voice that insists:
Some deaths you did accept
Including of some who were listening
That is why the full statement that the question-marks pry me with reads:
It is sad, but I’m learning to have hope in Hizbulla
Maybe it is the naivety
of one whose life has never been directly threatened
I still believe:
Be the change you want to see in the world.
-Cecilia Lucas, lib graduate student at UC Berkeley
Gee, kinda reminiscent of Wharf's work, huh.
BTW dolty boy you missed this above your quote from the opinion journal.....so I helped you out there
ReplyDeleteI was about to e-mail you yesterday and call you on your silly attempt to turn what was obviously a joke into traitorous sentiment. But then I recalled that this is your stock in trade--you essentially make your living accusing others of treason, and the fundamental dishonesty of your work speaks for itself. You already know the truth, so there's no need to "correct" you, because you're lying, not just confused.
Regardless, I still feel compelled to call bullsh-- on you for the 857th time. Soderberg was joking, and there is no "element of truth" to the slander that she's traitorous. Plus, your reasoning is lacking, to put it mildly. Your headline implies that Soderberg is being dishonest when she says she "was only joking." Then you state that it's obvious she was joking, because she was on Comedy Central, and nothing serious is ever said there. Then you wrap up by saying she wasn't really joking, after all, because she made the traitorous comment four times. Which is it, smart guy?
You're probably the most loathsome high-profile blogger out there. I don't know how you live with yourself. You're like some rabid college wingnut who never grew out of adolescence. That you can get paid for this tripe, even well after college (?), amazes me.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006394
Hi Rusty,
ReplyDeleteYes clippy is going for record. His posts currently weigh about 4,255 kilos.
Apparently, like kruschev, he is trying to bury us.
Most impressive.
Rusty I have researched this very question. Now we have proof.
ReplyDeletePray tell,why is'nt "the mad clipper" over with his idol wuffy?
ReplyDelete-Rusty
clippy had to leave the Wharf Rat Echo Chamber; he was being chased by schizo groupies.
Rusty are you really Johnny Moomeister?
ReplyDeleteI bet you were that outrageously funny anonypuss.
ReplyDeleteA Tale of Two Mayors, or Maybe Three.
ReplyDelete"Mr. Maliki took office after a four-month government gridlock, and expectations ran high that his politically inclusive cabinet would find a way to gradually diminish the violence. The Iraqi premier said he would devote himself to bridging Iraq's sectarian divisions, reining in militias, cajoling some insurgent factions to stop fighting and fortifying Baghdad, the country's main battleground.
So far, though, the various plans have had little substantive effect. Mr. Maliki's reconciliation plan, for instance, promised amnesty to insurgents willing to lay down their arms. But there has been no agreement on how far the amnesty should extend or which groups it should encompass. Despite deploying more checkpoints and security personnel around the capital, meanwhile, the number of attacks there has risen sharply.
"Many of the goals have not been achieved," says Mahmoud Othman, a Kurdish member of parliament. "People are a bit disappointed in this government."" Yahoo
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First there was Arafat. He was mocked by the Arabs as the Mayor first of Jericho and then of Gaza.
Then there was Karzai, the "Lion of Kabul." He is mocked by the Afghans as the mayor of that dusty, blood soaked place.
Now we have al-Maliki, duly elected, mocked as mayor of half a city, come to see the man who looked into his eyes. POTUS not only looked into his eyes but was re-assured by what he saw. Now this Shia Iraqi zealot leader has come to tell POTUS, among other things, that the US must give to his government American soldiers accused of crime in his country to do with what they wish.
What is next? Who will be the designated "mayor" of Beirut?
Pat Lang
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/
Dusty Simpleton said...
ReplyDeleteClif,I want to ask you the same question I asked Kay last night and please give a truthful answer.Are you now,or have you ever worn a pyramid shaped tin foil hat?
No son just a military combat helmet
Fantasy foole said...
ReplyDeleteRusty I have researched this very question. Now we have proof.
No son that don't even look like ME ..but it does resemble somebody who lives in San Diego California
The limits of western power
ReplyDeleteby Colman
Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 06:48:04 AM EST
Recent events in Iraq and Lebanon lead me to wonder if the necessity to maintain at least minimal support for wars by avoiding large spikes in our casualty rates makes it impossible for modern, high-tech, highly connected democracies to successfully prosecute aggressive wars.
The US/UK war in Iraq has clearly been hampered, if not lost, through the philosophy of force protection. US forces have taken a very aggressive approach to minimising risks to their troops. The resulting atrocities - civilians shot for driving too close to US forces for instance - have fed the insurgency and destroyed any chance of winning support for the occupation forces. The military philosophy that prefers to call in “precision” air support in urban areas rather than risk troops causes civilian deaths and reduces the likelihood of actually killing or capturing the targets of the action while simultaneously recruiting for your opponents.
The Israeli Army’s need to avoid casualties is partly driven by need: Israel is a small country and can’t afford to replace large numbers of combat losses but it appears to be hampering their action in Lebanon in a similar fashion - they have hoped for air power would do the heavy killing and that troops would be relatively unopposed. As Billmon notes, Hezbollah hadn’t read that plan so didn’t know what they were meant to do. Pat Lang has more to say about the futility of relying on aerial bombardment in this sort of war.
To fight a guerilla war with conventional military forces requires massive deployment of infantry in close combat, with the concomitant losses. You need to be everywhere, all the time, using only minimum force in order to minimise civilian deaths. Valuing the lives of your troops in tens of civilian lives guarantees that you will kill so many that you will create the army that will defeat you.
The alternatives to military action - honest negotiation for instance - are too protracted, too soft, too complicated and too stereotypically feminine for the macho men and women that are in charge at the moment. They also have the disadvantage of possibly being effective, unlike military action.
http://www.boomantribune.com/
The Next Front
ReplyDeletePressure is building on Ankara to deal more harshly with cross-border terrorist attacks from Iraq.
uly 31, 2006 issue - Israel launched airstrikes on Lebanon in response to attacks by Hizbullah earlier this month, and George W. Bush called it "self-defense." But what to tell the Turks, who over the last week lost 15 sol-diers to terror attacks launched by sepa-ratist Kurds from neighboring Iraq? Many Turkish leaders are pressing for cross-border tactical air assaults on the guerrillas. But Bush, fearing yet another escalation of the Middle East's violence, urged Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to hold off. "The message was, unilateral action isn't going to be helpful," says a senior U.S. official, describing the 15-minute phone conversation. "The president asked for patience."
And so Turkish forces are holding fast—for now—in deference to their half-century alliance with the United States. But that patience is bound to be challenged, probably sooner than later. Domestic political pressures are building to take a leaf from Israel's book and hit back at the guerrillas of the Kurdistan Work-ers' Party, or PKK. Since the beginning of the year, attacks on Turkish military garrisons and police stations have esca-lated across the country's southeast, along with random shootings, bombings and protests—many of them, authorities suspect, organized in Iraq. Already the Turkish military has laid detailed plans for possible helicopter-and-commando assaults, government sources tell NEWSWEEK. Meanwhile, Ankara's frustration with Washington has grown palpable. For all the Bush administration's repeated promises to crack down on the PKK, little if anything has happened. With elections coming next year, Erdogan could be pardoned for soon concluding that his forbearance might prove politically dangerous. "Moderate, liberal people in Turkey are becoming increasingly anti-American," warns Turkey's Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul. "That isn't good."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13990129/site/newsweek/
I'll bet by now the idiot reaslly wishes he had told dead eye to shove it..and stayed gobernor of TEXAS, a job that does not demand much , rartly because of many elected officials, the governor's powers are quite limited in comparison to other state governors or the U.S. President. In popular lore and belief the lieutenant governor, who heads the Senate and appoints its committees, has more power than the governor.
wiki
U.S. Says It Knew of Pakistani Reactor Plan
ReplyDeleteCongress Learned of Nation's Nuclear Expansion From Independent Analysts
The Bush administration acknowledged yesterday that it had long known about Pakistan's plans to build a large plutonium-production reactor, but it said the White House was working to dissuade Pakistan from using the plant to expand its nuclear arsenal.
"We discourage military use of the facility," White House spokesman Tony Snow said of a powerful heavy-water reactor under construction at Pakistan's Khushab nuclear site in Punjab state.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/24/AR2006072400995.html
YEA right you can have a nuclear reactor to make plutonium if you promise not to do anything with the plutonium...are they really that stupid in the white house?
Obviously the white House thinks we are that dumb
ReplyDeleteRusty Shackelford said...
ReplyDeleteCable news viewers for July 24th.
O'Rielly.. 2,693,000
Hannity... 1,801,000
Brit Hume. 1,559,000
Hardball.. 369,000
Olbermann. 365,000
For the life of me I dont understand why all these people are watching Fox.Its got to be some sort of conspiracy.
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Well, it's official! The poll numbers above reflect why 50% of Americans still believe that Saddam has wmd! They're being dumbed down by Fox News. But we knew that already, didn't we? We didn't need no stinking poll to tell us that the right arm of the White House is disinformation galore! That's right...if you're watching Fox News on a daily basis (people in their 70s are watching Bill O'Reilly only!) then you can consider yourself part of the backwash left over at the bottom of the drinking glass. Awwwww....how sad for all of you who depend on the Bush Cartel's propaganda machine to get your 'facts' from.
The one thing neocons despise is Bill Clinton and they should because Clinton was loved by 70% of this country even when the 'crotch holding republicans' were trying to impeach him for lying about an affair he had! The country was smarter than the neocons of that time...and guess what?...those same people (including moderate republicans) loathe George "Wingnut" Bush! At this point, Americans would much rather be dealing with Bush and Condi having an affair than the path that the Bush Cartel is taking our nation! With all Clinton's faults, the man was behind Americans. The Bush Cartel is not.
ReplyDeleteWho will these same neocons blame for the atrocities during the years of 2001-2009? The Ancient Pharaohs? Jack the Ripper? The Catholics? The Jews? Who????????? I know who I'm going to blame and he has a very low IQ and is currently running our country!
Condi is spreading the peace in the Middle East and Italy today! Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's telling everyone that the Bush Cartel's answer to the Israeli conflict is 'enduring ceasefires'! Wow! Translation? Israel has the authority to call any moment they want a ceasefire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when a rocket is launched at Israel, Israel can exclaim with finger pointed in the air as the missile is screaming towards them, "Okay, right now we are at a cease fire. No bombings please.", and then when the bomb explodes in their country they can say, "Okay! That's it! We said peace and look what you've done! That's it! We're coming for you!". Yup, the Bush Cartel wants for those in the Middle East to endure the ceasefires....not. It's just more Orwellian Doublespeak. Israel will use the word 'ceasefire' as a way to make themselves look like the victims which will continue their aggression and the Bush Cartel will continue to protect the Israelis...you know, "the wanters of peace".
ReplyDeleteWhat will Condi learn in Rome? I don't know but years ago Dick Cheney and his Scooter went to Italy in 2002 for a little gaunt and then an amazing thing happened! A document surfaced that "proved" Saddam was trying to purchase yellowcake uranium from Niger. Well, guess what? The Italian newspapers at the time exclaimed that Rocco Martino, who is an Italian ex-Intelligence guy, broken into the Niger Embassy in Rome, Italy and stole a bunch of blank letterhead from the Embassy. It was the same letterhead used to forge the letter and it was this forged document that 99% of the democrat US Senators who were on the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time to not vote for an invasion of Iraq! They knew in an instant that the document was a forgery. Those that were not part of this Committee voted for the invasion and occupation.
So, what will Condi produce for the Bush Cartel to invade Iran? We can only guess.
This morning on MSNBC they played a clip of Ann Coulter on the Donnie Deutsch Show wherein she claimed that Bill Clinton was a homosexual.
ReplyDeleteIs this a new appearance on that show, or is this a second appearance in as many weeks?
At first I thought "She's turning into a crazy woman. Next she'll be hollerin' at the town folk and pushing a grocery cart," but then I realized that this was actually very sane. If she gets every news program to pick that clip up and repeat it, that's worth 10 appearances on Donny's show, at least in terms of book selling, because there are only two places that are good for selling books: that fat pig Oprah, and Imus.
Diebold stole the election! Diebold stole the election!
ReplyDeleteThe sky is falling!
Gee, what new conspiracy theories will the libs hafta invent after the dhimmicrats win in the next election?
Will libs apologize for smearing Diebold without any proof, or will they just drop the whole issue and pretend they never said anything? Maybe they will invent a new story about how they forced Diebold to fix their machines from their constant "pressure". Yeah, that will proly be the one they go with.
Doncha think that if Diebold were guilty of any malfeasance or flaws that they would go bankrupt overnight like when Arthur Anderson lost credibility after failing to properly audit enron?
Doncha think that if the Republican party were guilty then this would be a far bigger story than Whitewater? It would be a wound from which the party would never recover; they would hafta start a new party.
Doncha think that if there were any proof it wouldn't be stuck blogs of rabid partisans; it would be front page news in the New Yuk Times?
This is simply a smear job without any proof whatsoever by libs with white-hot anger over having lost a couple elections. As typical libs they have no honor, no integrity...they are like prostitutes who will say and do anything for political advantage. Disgusting.
The Diebold tale is one full of sound and fury told by an idiot, signifying nothing.
So TT you are finally admitting that lies and unsubstantiated accusations are the repug modus operendi..........right I mean if lies and unsubstantiated personal attacks work to your advantage politically or sell books then truth be damned full steam ahead..................repugs are intellectually dishonest people who believe the ends justify the means and are attempting to control and use the media as a propaganda tool to deceive and sway the masses and public opinion just as the Nazi's did under hitler, they are also attacking and dismantling our constitutionally guarentted rights and personal feedoms much like hitler did.
ReplyDeleteMike, I didn't see the full clip, so if you have a transcript, I could better answer your trollish question.
ReplyDeleteThere is evidence that Bill Clinton is a rapist, Mike, don't you agree?
ReplyDeleteyou didnt need to see the whole show TT, the fact that Coulter called Bill Clinton a Honosexual without a shed of evidence to support her unsubstantiated lie.
ReplyDeleteand your quote that it was basically a brilliant move to promote her book illustrates exactly what i said before:
So TT you are finally admitting that lies and unsubstantiated accusations are the repug modus operendi..........right I mean if lies and unsubstantiated personal attacks work to your advantage politically or sell books then truth be damned full steam ahead..................repugs are intellectually dishonest people who believe the ends justify the means and are attempting to control and use the media as a propaganda tool to deceive and sway the masses and public opinion just as the Nazi's did under hitler, they are also attacking and dismantling our constitutionally guarentted rights and personal feedoms much like hitler did.
BTW TT, not only is it a slanderous personal attack and a blatent lie accusing Clinton of being gay without a shed of evidence to support her unsubstantiated allegation, but it also serves to illustrate that Coulter has no credibility whatsoever and is a fool that no one should take seriously, one minute she says Clinton is a womanizer that chases every skirt that comes his way then the next she is saying he is gay and likes men, typical repug lies and outrageous BS to to help themselves politically or financially.
ReplyDeletein one breath Coulter says he loves women and hits on any woman a few seconds later it is he is gat.
TT as you say, if the evidence against Clinton was real, he would be convicted, its another bogus regug slander job just like Coulter saying he was gay, anybody can say anything, if they cant prove it it doesnt mean a thing.
ReplyDeleteClippy you are lying again, I started nothing, its you clowns that resort to personal attacks, thats all you guys got and thats all you do, you claim you are here to debate but all you do is attack people personally for hours just like you did Kay yesterday.
ReplyDeleteAnd i'm not going anywhere son, and you cant silence me or make me leave.
Bush is bi-sexual:
ReplyDeleteThe Truth about George W. Bush
http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/
Here you will find out the little known truth concerning President George W. Bush, Victor Ashe, the current American ambassador to Poland (formerly mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee and Exec. V.P.; C.F.O. of Fannie Mae), and their adulterous-bisexual relationship with a Las Vegas woman in 1984.
This situation took place in 1984 in the State of Tennessee. It concerns a 41 year old woman [currently residing in Las Vegas], Victor Ashe and George Bush's encounter in 1984 during the senate debates between Al Gore, Jr., Victor Ashe and Ed McAteer. She was invited to come to Tennessee by Victor Ashe. While attending one of these debates she spoke briefly with Ed McAteer (Senatorial candidate in 1984 who debated alongside Al Gore, Jr. and Victor Ashe, and was responsible in part for the emergence of the Religious Right).
Members of the mainstream media (CNN, FOX/news, Chicago Tribune) have known about this Las Vegas woman [well known in the BDSM underground] since September of 2003 yet they have done little if anything to get to the bottom of it. Like Bush's national guard service records they've given him a free pass concerning the what, where and when of his participation in the Texas Air National Guard.
We believe if the whereabouts and war-time behavior of Senator Kerry during his tour in Vietnam in the early 70's are matters of importance to the American people [according to Sinclair Broadcasting and Swift Boat Vets for Truth] then the past behavior of this President and his involvement in a homosexual situation with another man in the mid 80's is of equal importance.
When this Las Vegas woman told us about her conversation with Ed McAteer we thought it was something that should be looked into. He was being treated for cancer so we had to move quickly to open a dialogue. We believed obtaining a death bed declaration [if it came down to that] of a man of Ed McAteer's stature in the Christian community [he was called the Godfather of the Religious Right] would have held tremendous weight.?Ed [finally] coming forward to say what he witnessed or knew concerning this matter would have been unimpeachable. Ed was a staunch supporter of the state of Israel and quietly lobbied for the post of U.S. ambassador to Israel back in 2001 but was turned down for the position by none other than George W. Bush. It seems in George W. Bush's isolated bubble, ambassadorships are rewards set aside for friends and lovers only.
We initially contacted Mr. McAteer back in May of this year. He mentioned at that time Victor Ashe's sexual shenanigans were no secret in Tennessee. He seemed resentful of his party's choice to back a 'sodomite' which is why he ran as an independent. Ed was on chemotherapy and it was extremely difficult for him to talk so we deferred until late August at which time his wife [Faye] informed us he wanted to talk further but was under doctors orders to refrain from all strenuous activity. Sadly, Ed McAteer passed away on Oct. 5, 2004, before we could do a follow-up interview, he was 78. For Ed's sake [and that of his family] we hope his departure was natural [God's will], however, the timing of it all seems rather untimely in our opinion.?It bares looking into by the Tennessee authorities.?
When he passed way another writer contacted Faye and she imparted to him that Ed seemed upset upon returning from the debate in Chattanooga back in 1984. Was Ed aware of Victor Ashe and George W. Bush's bisexual behavior? Perhaps that is what upset him so.
Unfortunately he didn't get the chance to tell us what he witnessed that night that upset him or if he remembered talking with the Las Vegas woman.
The Las Vegas woman was paid $15,000 to arrange sexual liaisons involving bisexual men for George W. Bush (then private citizen) and Victor Ashe (then a Tennessee State Senator). These adulterous bisexual affairs (3 encounters in all-3 different cities) took place in the state of Tennessee during the 1984 senate debates between, Al Gore, Jr., Victor Ashe and Ed McAteer. An African-American woman was invited to participate in this adulterous sexual encounter with George W. Bush and Victor Ashe immediately following the Chattanooga senatorial debate. This woman was paid $1,500. A few years later the Las Vegas woman was detained in Washington D.C. with Victor Ashe by the Metro D.C. police. She was released but Victor was taken into custody.
So confident was this woman that Ed would have remembered her [and their meeting] she had finally come forward and was prepared to tell it all. She will swear to the authenticity of what is being imparted here, which is the reason that we built this website so we could get this information out to you.
Bush & Co. will no doubt tell the world she's insane, politically motivated thus concocting this for smear reasons. She is of sound mind and body and welcomes all inquires from the mainstream media. This woman deeply laments not having come forward back in 2000 when then Governor Bush was running for the highest office in the land against [ironically] Vice President Al Gore, Jr.
Disclosure of George W. Bush's adulterous bisexual behavior will only happen if the American public demand answers. Contact your local news organizations demanding that this truth be revealed and not go the way of his Texas Air National Guard records.
Direct all media inquires to thetruthaboutbushin84@yahoo.com
UPDATE June 5, 2006 The woman in question is Leola McConnell. She is the Liberal Democratic candidate for Governor of Nevada in 2006
Hey, if you loonies can say that Bill Clinton is all out gay, then I can post a website done by a woman who is running for governor in our country who claims that Bush and the current Embassador to Poland, Victor Ashe, have had sex together!!!!
ReplyDeleteYour party has also claimed that Bill and Hillary are drug dealers and murderers too, so don't flinch the next time you hear one of say that Bush is a murderer and paid $43 million to the Taliban in May of 2001 to the Taliban in Afghanistan for them to stop their opium crops only to find out that their crops are the largest in the world now! Bush too is a drug dealer in the highest order because he used America's money to make the deal.
So, remember that...everytime you trolls say that Ann Coulter speaks the truth, we can say what we want about your Fuehrer!
Who is peter? Johnny is that supposed to mean some thing like your gravy mike or cheeseburger mike, sorry I dont speak retard, you will have to translate for me.
ReplyDeleteand BD and James still come in here from time to time and still suport Lydia and the rest of us, people busy and we arent getting paid to do this like you trolls are.
ReplyDeleteDippy, where was I speaking like a damned fool?
ReplyDeleteYou're the fool because you support the most corrupt and devious American president our country has ever witnessed! You're the idiot and the fool...not me pal!
Dippy, where was I speaking like a damned fool?
ReplyDeleteYou're the fool because you support the most corrupt and devious American president our country has ever witnessed! You're the idiot and the fool...not me pal!
and genius you are the guys in an opposition blog slandering people and attacking them personally so its not us who are trolls, thats cute how you trolls always try to twist things see if I were in a right wing blog doing what you guys do, then i would be a troll.
ReplyDeleteJohnny/clippy said" Mike,
ReplyDeleteYou must be stupid, if you don't know what "peter" means.
It's another word for penis"
Must have been before my time pops!
Mike, trying to explain something rational to the trolls is like trying to stir cake batter with a car! It's not going to work. The trolls are exhausted with having to figure out daily excuses to support their Fuehrer's position on everything and why all of his policies have failed. So, being exhaused, they've resorted to name calling and calling me ugly (I laugh at them) because they have nothing......NOTHING!.....to back their Fuehrer up with anymore. They're pathetic creatures.
ReplyDeleteClippy said "BTW, Clippy is not Johnny Moo Moo!
ReplyDeleteas for Rusty or WD, that could be Johnny or TT."
Thanks, now your an honest troll I guess???????
clippy said...
ReplyDeleteKay,
Honestly, I do understand your viewpoint and am not against it persay, but it's in the vehement way that you speak.
I know it's wrong for me to speak to you in the same way.
Everybody has the right to their own convictions, but the anger that come from you, is worse than I've ever heard Worf speak!
1:56 PM
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Why am I so angry? Have you ever thought of that or did you run your head over this morning trying to see if the muffler moves when you start the car up while backing out of the driveway?!!!!
I have a right to be angry and if you don't like it....FREAKING LEAVE! I think you would do yourself some good if you hung out on one of the right wing blogs where you can all chat about how attractive Bush is when he shoves a loaf of bread down his pants! It would therapy for all of you!!!!
clippy said "The word is still in use today. What a dumbass"
ReplyDeleteIf you say so then it must be true, as you are so obviously honest and virtuous.
But then again your probably the main one user it pops because all you do is call names and resort to 6th grade slander.
clippy said...
ReplyDeleteKay,
That's what I'm talking about. What a terrible way to raise a child behind all that anger, God help that child.
Life will be more enjoyable if you think loving peaceful thoughts. All that anger will do is drum up more anger till you reach the boiling point!
2:07 PM
clippy said...
Kay,
You speak for nobody but yourself. You sound to me to be a very selfish person, you have to take time to think about other people other than yourself, and learn to pray, in order to rid yourself of all that anger... it's extremely unbecoming!...horsey
2:09 PM
clippy said...
Kay,
1 more thing, you don't have any right at all to be angry.
Anger solves nothing...the proof: read and re-read this entire weblog! I might call you names, but it's wrong for me as well. At least I know I am not as angry as you. What apitiful way to live!
2:13 PM
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Excuse me, but you don't know a thing about me! Just because I spend time online voicing my anger and frustration about your idiotic president doesn't mean that I go around yelling and screaming and talking to trees while hitting one! This is how you neocons are...you've been spewing your crap since I came to this blog for days now and you and a few others are all a bunch of hungry fish circling the waters waiting for Lydia to notice you! You're the selfish one pal, not me. Do you see me doing that? Huh? I was invited to this blog, not because of Lydia (she is a beautiful woman, a wonderful mother and wife, and she loves her country! That's my kind of American if you ask me!), but because of my passion for my country that was noticed by a friend of hers. And what have you done? You've done nothing but berate me and discount every single word I've said. I've spent many years online lambasting the asshole sitting in the Oval office and guess what? MY SON IS A WELL-ADJUSTED, WELL-LOVED, AND A VERY POPULAR KID IN HIS SCHOOL! My politics and my beliefs haven't corrupted him like you hope they have. Uh uh...the opposite has happened. My son sees his mother as an engaged person in this world. He now knows what a good America looks like and how a bad America looks like! He now knows what to look for when the leaders of our country try to do a soft coup of our nation! He's knows he loves freedom more than he loves a dictatorship! He knows what to look for. Have you done that with your child or have you just ignored what is happening in our country and have kept your kids stupid? I know the answer. Don't bother telling me.
So don't try to put your crap on me! Before you judge others take a look at yourself pal! You're a pathetic creature that feels superior when others by putting them down.
Now, if you feel that Bush is doing a stupendous job along with his underlings, then post something that proves it or post your words on it, otherwise, stop acting like a jerk! You gain no respect by doing so!!!!!!!!!!
clippy said...
ReplyDeleteKay,
1 more thing, you don't have any right at all to be angry.
Anger solves nothing...the proof: read and re-read this entire weblog! I might call you names, but it's wrong for me as well. At least I know I am not as angry as you. What apitiful way to live!
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One more thing to you now! Do you think anger is a bad thing? Huh? Anger is what is driving the Iraq war but you love that kind of anger don't you! Anger gets the job done doesn't it pal? Huh? Oh yeah, you love the anger when Bush says, "Bring it on!" or "Dead or Alive!", or "Arab terrorists!", oh that kind of anger gives you an erection, doesn't it Dippy?
I'm gonna tell you this: I'M ANGRY AND AS AN AMERICAN IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY I CAN VOICE IT. I CAN VOICE IT ONLINE, ON THE BACK OF MY CAR, OUT MY CAR WINDOW, OR IN THE TOWN SQUARE, and guess what? A troll is not going to tell me that I can't be angry and I can't voice it!
It's freedom pal and that is something that YOUR PARTY hates. You and the rest of the trolls are the REAL terrorists of our country!!!!!!
Get it?
Well trolls, do you have a response or are you too scared? The reason why you're not angry is because you're not informed and are not paying attention to what is happening in our nation and around the planet. Just like the typical religious righters, you're oblivious to reality! You don't like reality because reality is too scary for you. You'd much rather hide out in a white building each weak and get ready for the Rapture because you're too scared to fight the Rapture!!! Those of us who see the future destruction and who are screaming about it are the ones that ARE NOT THE COWARDS! Cowards are the ones who say, "Well, you know, this seems a little too tough. I think I'll just go with the flow and hope God is on my side". Idiots. Dolts. You're pathetic. The train is heading for the edge of the cliff and while you and the rest of the neocons sit in your seats chatting away about what Heaven looks like, those of us who can see the path ahead will jump off to save our lives because we care about our lives. Have fun morons. No one can rescue you if you don't think you're worth rescuing.
ReplyDeleteYou Assholes can call me:
ReplyDeleteFAT
UGLY
SMALL
TALL
A TRANSVESTITE
A TRANSEXUAL
A LESBIAN
GAY
STRAIGHT
SINGLE
MARRIED
BI-SEXUAL
HOMELY
HORRID
SCARY
WICKED
EVIL
HATEFUL
A TRAITOR
A TERRORIST
ANTI-AMERICAN
COMMUNIST
SOCIALIST
but I'll tell you right now,
WHATEVER WORD YOU CHOOSE TO LABEL ME OR DEGRADE ME WON'T STOP ME FROM TALKING! EVEN IF I GET KICKED OFF LYDIA'S BLOG, I'M STILL GOING TO BE TALKING! I'll be talking forever about the most Evil, vile, traitorous, treasonist, warmongering presidency in the history of our country!
Get it pal?
I like how it took you quite a few minutes to respond to my last two posts. It proves to me that I smacked you down hard and it took you all that time to figure out what to say to me. You're a coward. Saying, "that's funny stuff lol" is not the mark of a person who cares. You're the hateful one, not me pal. This is why you support Bush...you're as hateful as him and you take comfort in that.
Clippy, you're worried about WWIII and you put me down? Huh? Do you see how pathetic you are!!! If you're worried about WWIII then throw all your pictures away of Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and Condi and the rest of the PNACers who want WWIII then!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteJesus, what the hell do you think Americans have been warning you neocons about? You're on the train and it's heading towards the cliff and me and others are jumping off while you and the ignorant sit in the seats picking your noses!
You're to blame because you support Bush. No one else is to blame. Honestly, I could see why people voted for the asshole in 2000 because our country just had 8 years of a democrat, but to vote for the asshole again (if you believe the election wasn't stolen! But people did vote for him no doubt!) in 2004 was an abomination! Anyone who voted for this jerk is to blame for the path that our nation is going down and for what is happening in the Middle East.
Of course, you neocons don't want to hear that Cheney met with the Israelis 2 months ago and what we are seeing right now is part of the Evil plan! So, if WWIII is scaring you........TOUGH SHIT! You support these guys and you must suffer the consequences. One thing about me however, if my son and I are suffering in the future from radiation poisoning we will be strong. You however will be yelling, "But I voted for Bush! How can this be? Why me? What did I do to you?!". See the difference?
Unless Bush has a change of heart? You think that's possible? Do you think the people in the Middle East are going to say, "Uh guys, the US president has had a change of heart. Put your guns down now. Yup, it's time to go home". Huh? You think this is a situation that can be reversed if Bush is on vacation and says, "You know what. I think I want peace now. Yeah, peace. It's time!".
ReplyDeleteYou're a moron Dippy. I don't care if no one is listening to me rant against you right now either. Someone will read it at some point and that is all I care about. You're stupid enough to stick around and read what I'm saying so I'll keep typing until you leave.
What makes you vote republican Dippy? I'm curious. What is it about the republican party that makes you feel good about yourself?
ReplyDeleteIs God to blame for WWIII or is it the people who've been behind the scenes for years now conspiring to dominate the planet and who will be safe in bunkers 5 stories under the ground? Huh? Which is it to you right wingers?
ReplyDeleteI really don't give 2 shits how you think.
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And I don't give two shits about what you and the rest of the trolls think either!
There, now we're even.
Sorry pal, but God is in this mess! Bush and his followers believe that he was chosen by God to lead the United States in the End Battle (I don't think this but this is coming from the Rapture Ready people and other right wing whackos who support this man!). When asked if Bush talks to his father about events, Bush said that he talks to the Higher Father. Bush once said that God wanted him to attack Iraq.
ReplyDeleteSo, guess what? God is in it whether you want to believe it or not! The Madman who is running our country right now is the one that dragged her in, not me!
And yes, I agree, WWIII will be started by men and not God but try telling that to the Pat Robertson's and the Jerry Falwells of our nation!!!!!!!