Wednesday, May 17, 2006


Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds - Albert Einstein

Photo by Margery Epstein.

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The most touching gift: I was blown away by the gift I received from JOHN CONLEY of Oklahoma, who sent me his PURPLE HEART in its original case. Conley is a disabled Marine combat vet who received 2 Purple Hearts for wounds suffered in Viet Nam. He is one of the true HEROES of America, and he was a great support during a very trying time. After getting death threats from so-called "Christian" Ann Coulter fans, his letters of encouragement helped me immeasurably. He wrote: Dear Lydia, "This is for the slings and arrows you took for today's soldiers and Marines and I'm proud to call you my friend. There is no Purple Heart awarded for the wounds you suffered at the hands of mindless critics who wouldn't know a true patriot if one fell on him. There are so many troops who not only agree with you, but veterans who are also grateful. A great example of someone who "supports the troops" in ways that go beyond simply slapping a magnetic yellow ribbon to a car. Our country needs more people like yourself to stay active and if I can do one little thing to inspire you to this end, then it makes me happy. God bless, my dear, John"

This last line make me think how vital it is that we speak out against lies and corruption in our government. I hardly recognize America anymore. IT IS VITAL TO keep in mind that if, instead of siding with Hitler, the Christians of Germany - who represented some 96% of the population - had joined with the Jews, handicaps, homosexuals and the "Liberals", there would have been no war and no holocaust! But Hitler responded: "I have the churches in my back pocket." He then proceeded to arrange for the Nazi government to pay for the support of the clergy, their churches and their schools, so long as they didn't get in his way. That is just one of the many reasons why so few of the Christian clergy dared to speak out against Hitler, no matter how heinous his policies became! (From

As the Native Americans reminded us: No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves.

My father-in-law from Wisconsin

Went to the REAGAN LIBRARY on Mother's Day. My father-in-law was in town and really wanted to see it. I must say, it's pretty magnificent. Strolled through Air Force One, which sits inside a stunningly beautiful glass pavilion. Kids learned all about the Cold War. At least Ronald Reagan was a communicator, and was a statesman; he believed in talking face-to-face with world leaders to befriend them. I came away from there with a new found respect for this great Republican, air-traffic controllers' strike excluded. BUSH shouldn't even be in the same White House as Reagan; they are light-years apart. I can't believe they even allowed his portrait to hang with the other presidents.

The above photos are: my mother on Mother's Day with the flowers we sent her; Charles, my father-in-law; me in front of a piece of the Berlin Wall (the flower side is the West side of course;) portrait of Regan; and the presidential chopper.

Sorry about the problems with Blogger the past week. It's finally back up and I'll post more soon. Will be in Detroit this weekend for Motor City Comic Convention, and at the Riviera Vegas June 5-11 doing standup with Destiny. Steve Schiruppa from the Sopranos owns the Comedy Club at the Riviera.

ABC News: Federal official says US tracking calls made by ABC News, New York Times, Washington Post

RAW STORY Published: Monday May 15, 2006
ABC's Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report:

A senior federal law enforcement official tells ABC News the government is tracking the phone numbers we call in an effort to root out confidential sources.

"It's time for you to get some new cell phones, quick," the source told us in an in-person conversation.

We do not know how the government determined who we are calling, or whether our phone records were provided to the government as part of the recently-disclosed NSA collection of domestic phone calls.

Other sources have told us that phone calls and contacts by reporters for ABC News, along with the New York Times and the Washington Post, are being examined as part of a widespread CIA leak investigation.

One former official was asked to sign a document stating he was not a confidential source for New York Times reporter James Risen.

Our reports on the CIA's secret prisons in Romania and Poland were known to have upset CIA officials.

People questioned by the FBI about leaks of intelligence information say the CIA was also disturbed by ABC News reports that revealed the use of CIA predator missiles inside Pakistan.

Under Bush Administration guidelines, it is not considered illegal for the government to keep track of numbers dialed by phone customers.

The official who warned ABC News said there was no indication our phones were being tapped so the content of the conversation could be recorded.

A pattern of phone calls from a reporter, however, could provide valuable clues for leak investigators.



  1. intelligence historian Matthew Aid:

    "I'll tell you where this story probably will go next….Internet service providers or cellphone providers or companies operating transatlantic cables like Global Crossing cooperated with the NSA. That's the next round of revelations. The real vulnerabilities for the NSA are the companies. Sooner or later one of these companies, fearing the inevitable lawsuit from the ACLU, is going to admit what it did, and the whole thing is going to come tumbling down. If you want some historical perspective look at Operation Shamrock, which collapsed in 1975 because [Rep.] Bella Abzug [D-NY] subpoenaed the heads of Western Union and the other telecommunications giants and put them in witness chairs, and they all admitted that they had cooperated with the NSA for the better part of 40 years by supplying cables and telegrams."

    looks like your 4th Amendment rights have been violated as MO by rethugs.
    NSA = No Solitude in America

    Wonder how long it will take Blair to catch on??

  2. The Washington Post is reporting that Cheney is worth around $100 million and still growing.

    Guess the war does pay off for some.

  3. Got new pictures up from Reagan Library. thanks for your patience.

  4. Thanks Lydia, hope you had a great Mothers Day. Also, I just wanted to say i;m really glad you did away with the anonymous posting, I think it was a good move and long term it will pay dividends.

    BTW, thanks for updating the blog, I was going to beg you to make a new blog 1) because I look forward to reading your blogs and 2) with dial up it was getting really painful to load 1700 plus posts.

  5. I find it disturbing that it no sooner came out of Bush's mouth that they are just monitoring these calls to fight terrorism and they will not use it for ANYTHING ELSE and all of the sudden they are using it to trace intelligence leaks.

    What will they use this data for next????, i'm so tired of Bush making up the rules as he goes along, its about time someone reigned in our little spoiled brat of a dictator and let him no he needs to follow our laws as well.

    its about time someone impeaches this fool before he turns America into a version of Orwell's 1984.

  6. Bush was asked today if monitoring Americans calls was an invasion of privacy and he wouldn't answer.

    He went to his Rove-programmed answer that he is protecting Americans from terrorist.

  7. Reagan was great in the same sense that Clinton was a virgin.

  8. Bagdad:

    Gunmen blew up a parked oil tanker in northeast Bagdad today killing 18 people and injuring 37.

    Another US serviceman was killed today bring the total killed in Iraq to 2448 ( that the govt will admit to).

    Wonder if Bush is proud of himself?

  9. Compared to Bush, Reagan was great...compared to Kennedy, Reagan sucked.....

  10. Wonder why georgie wants to talk about the border with Mexico and not 5the fiasco in Iraq HE started.

  11. Bush must think if everyone gets stirred up about his love for Mexico, then they will forget about his love for War.

  12. Not exactly his love for it buit get it off the evening news castsplus give them another thing to fear IMMIGRANTS taking over they'll taske our jobs, ruin our schools and get welfare, that is the repug not so hidden message, fear that does not remind Americans how dismal they have preformed in Afghanistan (where Osama still roams free, and the Taliban is making a comeback) and Iraq, a fiasco that makes Vietnam look good in comparison(and we won every battle in vietnam, but still lost the strategetic war thus the country to the same people who fought the Japanese and French before US

  13. New post. Outstanding. Looks like problems with Eblogger are resolved.

    Very cool photos. Reagan looks like a giant though, lol.

  14. Bradblog has the latest show of Bill Mayer from HBO from this past Friday, which featured the panel discussion on the latest domestic spying.

    If you missed the show, it is worth checking it out.

  15. Also speaking of leaks, what ever happened to bush saying he would investigate who leaked Valerie Plame's identity and fire them, i'm still waiting for him to fire himself and Cheney and Rove etc....

  16. I mean the "DECIDER" said he hates leaks and he claims he never flip flops or changes his mind, so does that mean he hates himself and his VP and Rove?????

  17. My feet smell soooooo bad, that its completely outrageous.

    My socks will crunch in another hour.

  18. HMMMM.......wonder if the NSA investigated the phone records of the guys that leaked that info, wonder if the montitor the phone records of Bush and his cabal or just the 300 million peasants he considers his loyal subjects or chattel.

  19. Mike you do not understand the post 9-11 form of goberment we have ....if the decider decides it, it ain't no leak see, cause he's the decider and he decided to decide to imediately declassify what ever was revealed that was used to prop up his previous decidereds that didn't go according to spin which is the new way of planning see.

  20. I mean wouldnt it be kind of interesting to monitor Bush's phone records immediately during and after 9/11 to see if his phone records are similar to how other presidents would have responded, afterall he didnt look too surprised, in fact he didnt look surprised at all.

  21. Mike there is an office called white house communications and they travel with the president, so the records are in theri hands and no civilian agency would ever get access to them

  22. Cliff said

    "Wonder why Jesus told those who wanted to stone the adulteress that yea with out sin cast the first stone, and when they all left Jesus did not acuse her, but did not have the same compassion at the temple for the rich money lenders...wonder why he had different compassion for two different comandments?"

    Easy question Cliff.

    Obviously, Jesus realizes there are limits to the amount of baloney any human being can handle, therefore Jesus approves of a little turban ripping and violence as suggested by his aggressive actions at the temple.

    Jesus has patience for minor infractions, however, is not tolerant of what he percieves is a violation of human worth.

    Quite simply, he cracks!

    Rather than use loving thoughts or forgiveness to subdue the money lenders, Jesus felt a little physical force might get the message across.

    Kinda like his Father, who uses violence to eradicate his mistakes by way of a flood.


    And, Im supposed to be near perfect to make it into heaven....gimmee a break!


  23. Wrong Johnny Jesus was not Violant against the people just their tables and coins of the trade.....stop putting your wants in the story.

  24. Hey I see you guys mentioned ole JFK,I've told this before,its true.You know Jacks older brother Joe was killed in the war and he was the one old man Kennedy was sure was going to be president.Well after Joe's death the old man twisted Jacks arm to enter polictics,finally becoming president but the truth is Jack Kennedy never wanted anything to do with politics,in fact since he was a your boy he always wanted to be a boxer....but he could'nt take a shot to the head.....rim shot here!

  25. God/Jesus would flip their wigs if they had the balls to check things out down here as they are today.

    Jesus would wind up in a mental hospital from his impatient behaviour.


  26. No johnny with all the directed calls to authority of what hypocrites and liers they are Jesus since he was born in the middleeast probably would be declared a terrorists and given accomidations at Gitmo

  27. Its important to understand both sides of the cleansing of the temple incident.

    It was a stern moment in the life of Christ, but its important to remember that no one was hurt in this incident.

    He wasn't beating people up.

  28. Jesus/God only cares through words...not actions!

    Any idiot can talk!


  29. Johnny Pork Pie moo moo said...
    God/Jesus would flip their wigs if they had the balls to check things out down here as they are today

    Well he did have the balls as you so un-divinly put it.

    In fact, he went through everything you and I have to go through, and a hell of a lot more.

    The man Jesus, had bigger "balls" than anyone you've ever met.

  30. If you doubt that, watch Mel Gibsons movie on his trial and crucifixion.

    It is quite accurate as to what went on during those 3 miserable days.

  31. And I didn't see God bending over backwards to pull take the whip from the Scourger's hand, or convince Pilate to ignore the mob and sentence Barrabas instead of his only Son.

    And I didn't see God trying to pull the nails out of his wrists or ankles and lift him gently off the cross.

    Hell he didn't even bother to remove even ONE of the long, 5 inch thorns that the Roman Guards drove into Jesus's scalp by smacking him on the head with reeds.

  32. And Jesus was supposedly his only begotten son in the flesh.

    If he didn't help him, why would he help you?

  33. Cliff said

    "just their tables and coins of the trade"

    Thats what the whole world is about Cliff......C,mon!

    Jesus has a low tolerance level....period!

  34. Part of Jesus teaching involves the idea that if you are given more than more is expected of you, and in life the rich are GIVEN more, more chances more breaks better luck(especially at birth), thus the tradition started by Jesus wants more back in following his message of reaching down to those less fortunate and giving to them, like the story in;

    Mark 12:41 Then he sat down opposite the offering box, and watched the crowd putting coins into it. Many rich people were throwing in large amounts. 12:42 And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, worth less than a penny. 12:43 He called his disciples and said to them, “I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the offering box than all the others. 12:44 For they all gave out of their wealth. But she, out of her poverty, put in what she had to live on, everything she had.”

    It is not how much we give but how much of what we have we actually give that counts......

  35. Thats what the whole world is about Cliff......C,mon!

    According to who, not where I was raised. And not according to the majority of the tradition that the christians claim to believe in....

  36. Clif,

    I answered your question about the harlot and the temple in the other thread.

  37. Johnny said
    Jesus has a low tolerance level....period!

    Well, considering that Jesus passed the money changers for about 31 years before turning over their tables, I'd say he had quite a long fuse.

  38. Carl I see it differently, the woman had just sinned against GOD and not hurt the lives of her fellow men, where as the money changers were hurting the poor and weaker of their fellow citizens and Christ saw this as a greater sin because it not only sinned against GOD but hurt other of GOD's children......

  39. Here is where I base my thoughts on;

    The Greatest Commandment

    22:34 Now when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they assembled together. 22:35 And one of them, an expert in religious law, asked him a question to test him: 22:36 “Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?” 22:37 Jesus said to him, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 22:38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 22:39 The second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 22:40 All the law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.”

    Where the woman only broke the first the money changers were cheating their fellow people thus violating both, thus destroying the law itself...

  40. In many of the places where Jesus is quoted he removes our rights to judge others and pushes us to aid those less fortunately, even going so far as to say it is harder for a camel to get through thr eye of a needle than a rich man to get to heaven, and in other places he is quoted remarking that those who seek the rewards of this life have recieved their reward here. This is the judgement

    Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 25:32 All the nations will be assembled before him, and he will separate people one from another like a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 25:33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 25:34 Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 25:35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 25:36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 25:37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 25:38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or naked and clothe you? 25:39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 25:40 And the king will answer them, ‘I tell you the truth, just as you did it for one of the least of these brothers or sisters of mine, you did it for me.’

    25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire that has been prepared for the devil and his angels! 25:42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink. 25:43 I was a stranger and you did not receive me as a guest, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 25:44 Then they too will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not give you whatever you needed?’ 25:45 Then he will answer them, ‘I tell you the truth, just as you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for me.’ 25:46 And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

    But that quote does not sit real well with those who cry their taxes are too high and the poor should pull themselves up with their bootstraps.

  41. Cliff said

    "Christ saw this as a greater sin because it not only sinned against GOD but hurt other of GOD's children......"

    Cliff, are you suggesting the womans bad example could not possibly pass on to finer individuals?

  42. I mean, her influence could disrupt and hurt many people if left unpunished.

  43. Cliff, are you suggesting the womans bad example could not possibly pass on to finer individuals?

    No I am saying that she did not cause others harm and if others wanted to violate the law, she is not responsible for their actions, or salvation.

    But to those who took from those less fortunate and made their lives much harder they were harming others directally and thus their actions were more despised by Jesus.

    A sin of an individual is not as bad as a sin that hurts others....

  44. I mean, her influence could disrupt and hurt many people if left unpunished.

    Wrong Johnny I can not force you to do anything just by example that you would not do otherwise, it is the blame game where another is blamed for the choices we make....I am responsible for the choices I make....not you or others.

  45. Cliff said

    "when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 25:38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or naked and clothe you? 25:39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?"

    Exactly Cliff! Seems God/Jesus exonerate themselves from these rules, but, expect it from us soooooooooo much!

    Must be nice to create an ant farm and lazily make rules.

  46. Johnny they are judging us for our actions, and there is enough for everyone if those who have horded the most didn't try and hoard even mopre daily while letting others suffer for their greed. seems you let the entire planet off the hook because GOD did not make us all obey blindly, poverty and hunger is a crime of the rich against the poor.

  47. Cliff

    You got me on your 4:50 PM post.

    Congratulations.....very rare someone gets me!

  48. Johnny just as we individuals areresponsible for our own actions we as groups are collectively responsible for our collective actions, a lesson from the passage where Jesus doesn't actually acuse one person but attempts to get a leader to throw the first stone, by asking who is without sin, by denying a leadership position nobody could claim a superior position thus no one could incite the group to furfil the law....shame the same principles are not applied now..we would not have been rushed into a war by a group that couldn't claim leadership by Christs rules....

  49. Also we as a nation would be "blessed" by GOD by how well we take care of the least among us not how great our weapons or monuments to idolitory and greed have become..........

  50. Ok, Cliff, why is it that evil rules the world?


  51. clif said...
    Carl I see it differently, the woman had just sinned against GOD and not hurt the lives of her fellow men, where as the money changers were hurting the poor and weaker of their fellow citizens and Christ

    I agree. Throughout the 4 Gospels Jesus demonstrated over and over his tolerance of personal transgression in contrast to his contempt for those who beguiled or bamboozled the masses.

  52. And his contempt for corrupt civil leaders and rulers, like Herod, men who committed murder under the disguise of following the law, was unparralled.

  53. Johnny said
    Cliff, are you suggesting the womans bad example could not possibly pass on to finer individuals?

    What the heck does that mean? Finer individuals? What the heck are you trying to say here Johnny?

  54. Because we as a whole people buy into the get richer schemes more than we buy into the themes address by Christ.

    As you stated;

    Thats what the whole world is about Cliff......C,mon!

    And you didn't even think that there is another way did you?

    We have choices to make but manyu of the larger choices mad by a society are determined by those in power to their benefit or the benefit of those who actually put them there, thus we havwe a system where money is no controlling access to food, medical care housing, and other necessities of life.....exactally the situation Christ decried the pharisees about. He decried their oppulant lifestyle and arrogance while not actually helping those less fortunate...same situation different century

  55. Human nature is built that way Cliff....we are incapable of truly understanding your 5:17 PM only sounds good.

    However, IMPOSSIBLE!

  56. Johnny said;

    Exactly Cliff! Seems God/Jesus exonerate themselves from these rules, but, expect it from us soooooooooo much!

    Must be nice to create an ant farm and lazily make rules.

    What you fail to realize is God and Jesus are not part of this world, nor is anyone not yet born, or those who have left this temporal sphere.

    If you look at the overall religion of Judaism, and its branch, Christianity, then you will realize this world is a "special time". There will not be another like it.

    We are free agents, agents unto ourselves here. We are free to choose life or death, good or evil, right or wrong. We can make buildings or bomb buildings. We can grow thigs or thistles.

    Jesus alluded to this when he described the earth as a vineyard and the master of the vineyard was in a far off land. Everything rests on what the servants do while the master is away.

    Thats it. Thats the whole plan. Thats the gospel in a nutshell.

    Some people get it.

    Most never do.

  57. Thats what history has taught me anyways.

  58. Worf said

    "Most never do."

    Doesnt God care if we dont understand?

    How about investing a little love?

  59. Human nature is built that way Cliff....we are incapable of truly understanding your 5:17 PM only sounds good.

    However, IMPOSSIBLE!

    Only because we choose it to be that the not to distant past there was a nation that recreated reality but burned bodies of those they killed, and attacked the world, they were defeated and now the same nation minus their leaders learned to live peacefully...about a century and a half ago this country had a custom where certain inhabitants could be bought and sold and even killed without punishment by the master, but that also changed, we as a collective choose our reality one person at a time and it starts with the person you stare at in the mirror.....

  60. On a lighter note..something we are not hearing about because we have to talk about immigration, the MSM says so;

    Some in the British press are openly saying that Basra is lost and that Prime Minister Tony Blair's assurances show he is living in an alternative dimension. Whether it is true or not, saying it shows some spunk that is mostly lacking over here.

  61. This might be a better link to the Basra story;

  62. Johnny Pork Pie moo moo said... Doesnt God care if we dont understand?

    Are you really this thick Johnny?

    NO. He doesn't care if you "understand".

    Its not about what you believe, or what you understand.

    Its all about what you DO.

  63. I have explained this to you many times.

    If you don't get it by now, you're either thicker than the average bear, or you don't want to get it.

  64. How about investing a little love?

    The love must come fromminside of you johnny, don't decry God for your lack of love for your fellow is not his to make you give but you responsibility solely

  65. Cliff

    When I first met you, you said there will always be someone to fan the flames of war.

    Therefore, I am correct in suggesting the rabbit hole is bottomless.

    Our evolution is endless.....period!

  66. As long as people keep believing it, it will be so.

    When people start believing we can all live in peace, it will be so.

  67. Only because we choose to accept as leaders and follow those who pit some against others for primarily their benefit....and we close ourselves in smaller and smaller groups that do not communicate with others very much...look at how many people actually contribute here, even though we discuss interesting topics, almost one third of the regular contributors decry the message and openly advocate the things that Jesus decried, and condemed in his time, each of us make our choices and then has to live with them...

  68. Cliff said

    "The love must come fromminside of you johnny,"

    Please define love Cliff and how far one is supposed to go to express it in order to make the trains run on time?

    The Bible's kinda vague on this point.......wonder why?


  69. You know, if I were you Johnny, I wouldn't worry about loving mankind or something.

    Just be yourself, and do your best, and I'll see you at the fish fry.

  70. Because since we came up with the idea of trains we should learn how to handle them for the bettgerment of everyone not just a few....the ideas for a good life for everybody are there, try a book called "sermon on the mount" by emmont fox, or reading GOD's politics by Jim Wallis, they both have good guides for living YOUR life, as for others it is their decision, not yours or mine....

  71. Worf said

    "I'll see you at the fish fry."

    There is no fish fry Worf. We live a futile existence, we die, and turn to dust......nothing more.

    I accept this.

  72. Johnny if you accept that there is no fish fry, why are you always decring a GOD you say you do not believe is like decring casper the ghost for the rest of us...

  73. We pretend theirs a purpose to justify existence.

  74. In case you have something new to offer me Cliff.

    Absolute evidence or logic.

  75. Some do but others are actualling following a calling from somewhere, and they usually do not want the material goodies up front....religion and spirituality are related but not the same and I for one prefer the spiritual journey instead of the dogmatic walk

  76. Very simple logic johnny, but rather hard to actually do...learn to meditate and then do it to find if ther is something you haven't been listening to form inside instead of the mass of mixed messages your bombarded from the outside

  77. Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception.

    Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose.

    Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love.

    You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now! You can't win, it's pointless to keep fighting! Why, Mr. Anderson, why, why do you persist?

    Agent Smith

  78. Yes Johnny there is more than either Mr. Anderson or Mr. Smith argues for to base a life on, there is the reason YOU do it which the movie does not even question ...your reasons are the best for you

  79. NBC just reported that Patrick Fitzgerald told news reporters, that he will be in Washington Wednesday to meet with the grand jury.

    Bye Bye Rove

  80. Johnny,

    "Because I CHOOSE to...."

  81. Regarding the rest of the religious debate,

    It's well documented that when you allow people to keep more of what they earn they spend more wisely than does the government.

    And Republicans donate more to charity than do democrats. Republicans give more of their OWN money, whereas Dems give more of EVERYONE ELSES money.

    How many lives has Bill Gates improved by creating new jobs where none existed before? How much in new revenue has he generated for the treasury with all the new taxpayers?

    "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, TEACH a man to fish and you feed him for life."

    I always knew you had a communist streak cliffy boy....

  82. Funny Voltaire but the quotes I used came from the Bible not the Communist Manifesto, and there are millions that do not agree with the reich wing nut version of what the BIble should mean, but bloviate away your OPINION

  83. Regarding the rest of the religious debate,

    It's well documented that when you allow people to keep more of what they earn they spend more wisely than does the government.

    LINK please, and one that has the figures to back up this claim

    And Republicans donate more to charity than do democrats. Republicans give more of their OWN money, whereas Dems give more of EVERYONE ELSES money.

    Seeing that we were discussing the Bible I for one do not know how you can claim to turn this into a dem vs repug question, not the way GOD sees us

    How many lives has Bill Gates improved by creating new jobs where none existed before?

    Probably quite a few but Bill appears much more progressive in the way he spends some of his money than neo-con giants like dead eye dick and the shrub or richard melon scaife, or the rev sung rung moon the financial backbone of the right

    How much in new revenue has he generated for the treasury with all the new taxpayers?

    Quite a bit until the shrub cut the payments on dividends and lowered the rates on the top which lowered the deposits by the tax payers, thus 8.4 trillion debt......

    "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, TEACH a man to fish and you feed him for life."

    But you would have to accept the fact that the repugs would want to own the lake rent, the space, add extra costs for different reasons, it is not as simple as you attempt to make it....

  84. Say it ain't so, not in Georgia;

    Judge voids Georgia gay marriage ban

    ATLANTA, May 16 — A Georgia judge Tuesday struck down a ban on same-sex marriage that was approved by voters in 2004, saying it violated the Southern state's constitution.

  85. A quiet day in Iraq so why don't we talk about Mexico instead;

    On Monday, scattered bombings and shootings left at least 33 persons dead by my count. Dozens more died over the weekend in fighting between guerrillas and US troops. Al-Zaman says that security has collapsed in Basra, with fighting between tribesmen and the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq. Reuters reports that on Monday:

    MOSUL: Guerrillas detonated a bomb in the northern city, killing one policeman and wounding 2 others.

    RAMADI: Heavy fighting between local guerrillas and US troops left 8 dead and 9 wounded.

    BALAD RUZ - Guerrillas shot down 4 primary school teachers in Diyala Province an hour's drive from Baquba.

    WAJIHIYA: Guerrillas east of Baghdad fired a mortar shell that landed on a civilian home, killing a seven-year-old girl and wounding 7 members of her family.

    BAGHDAD: Five members of a family in the capital were shot dead.

    MAHAWEEL: Guerrillas detonated a bomb that wounded 3 policemen and left a civilian bystander dead.

    KARBALA: A policeman who had earlier been abducted showed up dead in the Shiite shrine city on Monday. (Two ex-Baathists were also assassinated.)

    AMARA: A mortar attack on a British base wounded one soldier seriously in the leg and inflicted minor injuries on three others.

    BASRA: Tribesmen of the Marsh Arab Karamisha [Gramsha] tribe killed 11 policemen in and around Basra. They may have been taking revenge for the killing of one of their clan chiefs by persons dressed as special police commandos, a unit heavily infiltrated by the Badr Corps of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq.

  86. And Basara which used to be reletively calm is erupting...

    Al-Zaman/ AFP report that the security situation in Basra has collapsed in the wake of the killing by persons dressed as Iraqi policemen of Shaikh Hasan Jarih al-Karamishi, the head of the al-Karamisha tribe in Basra. Firefights subsquently broke out in several districts of the city at a time of political vacuum in the central government. Majid al-Sari, adviser to the Minister of Defense, said that individuals from this tribe came out into the streets of the city heavily armed and killed 11 policemen in the course of an attack on a police station in the Dair quarter to the south of the city. They also burned down two buildings used as party headquarters in the Intisar district of the Dair quarter by the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq.

    Al-Sari said that for the last month, Basra has been afflicted by a mass of assassinations, equalling one each hour of the day. (That would be 24 a day, and 720 for the month). Sources in the city allege that the police are helpless to intervene, and indeed refuse to go out to the crime scene to attempt to capture the assassins, since they would take fire from tribesmen supporting the assassins, who belong to their tribe.

    Two organizations, Rebels of the Uprising and the Revenge of God (Tha'r Allah, a branch of the Badr Corps) staged demonstrations Sunday and Monday against Governor Muhammad Misbah al-Wa'ili in protest against the collapse of security in the city.

    Al-Zaman's sources told it that Basra is in chaos and dominated by militias and lawless gangs. Automobiles with darkened windows cruise the streets, armed militiamen within, who impose their law on the city. These sources blamed Kuwait and Iran for the situation, alleging that their intelligence services are funding and arming the Iraqi militias for their own purposes. Tribal firefights between the Marsh Arab Al-Bait Sa'idah tribe and the Bani Mansur are common-- as is fighting between Bani Ammar and Al-`Ashur. The sources say that Basra is without authority save that of the militiamen. The major political parties are unable to dampen down the violence because they are so divided against one another

    Juan Coles blog is relatively good for the information he has about Iraq and the Arab world.

  87. Seems that the country which was recently described as under control except for four provinces is no longer under much control except for which milita exists in the streets or country side....

  88. There is a lawsuit filed in Michigan with parties suing the NSA the lawsuit can be found here,

    and the most interesting part is the 72 congressional people who signed on to the lawsuit including John Conyers Jr. the ranking member of the House Judiciary committee, and who will Chair the same if the Democratic party takes back control of the House in November....

  89. Hey Voltaire. Long time no see.

    Voltaire said;

    How many lives has Bill Gates improved by creating new jobs where none existed before? How much in new revenue has he generated for the treasury with all the new taxpayers?

    Actually Bill Gates political affiliation is somewhat of a mystery. Gates donates to both parties, and seems to donate to candidates rather than affiliations.

    He also has donated huge sums of money to charities and such.

    But to try and claim he is republican, well, you're going to have to produce proof, not speculation on that one.

    Nothing less than a reputable link will do.

  90. Clif said "Carl I see it differently, the woman had just sinned against GOD and not hurt the lives of her fellow men, where as the money changers were hurting the poor and weaker of their fellow citizens and Christ saw this as a greater sin because it not only sinned against GOD but hurt other of GOD's children......"

    exactly right Clif hurting or taking advantage of those who are poorer or weaker than you are is dispicable and is far worse than sins or infractions that do not directly injure others. I can remember from from grade school to work to life in general the vast majoity of times I have chosen to fight either literally or figuratively was to defend those who were weaker and not able to defend themselves.

    I always despised bullies who pick on or try to take advantage of those who are weaker and that is what I despise most about the Bush Administration they constantly try to intimidate people or countries who speak out against them, defy them or fail to do their bidding.

  91. Voltaire, If your talking about the Bush administration then I would have to agree that most people would spend more wisely than the current government, but having said that we need to become more fiscally responsible and that will mean raising taxes before the economy implodes, what the neo cons fail to grasp is that spending money you dont have is far worse than taxing and spending, huge deficits will raise interest rates which will kill the economy.

    As for republicans donating more to charity than democrats are you talking strictly in dollar terms, or as a percentage of income and do you have any link to substantiate this claim, because I would tend to think the opposite.

    Lastly like worf said, good luck trying to claim Bill gates as a republican, i'd like to see you try to prove that one.

  92. Voltaire what makes you say Clif is a communist because he care about the poor, the desire to help those less fortunate than ourselves is something we should all take more seriously. One of the major downfalls of all the major world powers from Rome forward was disdain and neglect of the poor and becoming entangled in wars that squandered their resources and military might and I see us heading down that same road.

  93. Love = money

    I have performed many kind acts towards others less fortunate than myself only to be taken advantage of and backstabbed.

    One guy I was helping out demanded more, the more I gave him. Rather than appreciate all I had done for him, he became very angry when I ceased my charity.

    Another act of kindness towards someone less fortunate, has had a paralyzing, intoxicating, and deep negative impact upon my life that has forever left it changed.....I got srewed BIG TIME!

    Oh well.....

  94. Carl wrote:
    I can totally sympathize with your diving experiences.

    Carl, I see colours underwater that you cannot see on land, diving never ceases to amaze me. I had almost forgotten but remembered after reading your post that I encountered an octopus in Malta and it was really curious. Just stay still, breathe out very slowly to minimise bubbles and underwater life usually investigates you. The octopus explored my arm, it was great.

    If you want to Dive in Devon you'll have to come to the south coast as the waves (therefore sand/silt) are much lower than on the north coast. You'll also be less likely to get sea sick and the coastline is generally more accessible. Contact Tourist Information for the area you're interested in.

    I recommend Plymouth as there are loads of dive boat 1/2 or full day excursions. I swam with a baby (6ft) whale shark in Plymouth at a wreck called the Sylla.

    Don't bother diving in Plymouth if there's a southerly wind blowing as the vis will be <1 metre.

    If Plymouth is too far, consider Portsmouth but avoid if there's a southerly for the same reason. There are loads of wrecks off Portsmouth harbour - its where King Henry VIII's flagship 'The Mary Rose' was hoisted up about 20 years ago.

    The further you head westward, the clearer the water becomes.

    If there's a southerly wind on the day you wish to dive, go to Torquay (avoid if there's an easterly wind) and dive Shag rock or shoot the tunnel through the 'Ore Stone'. Loads of wrecks to explore in Torquay (the general area encompassing Torquay is known as Torbay) too.

    Have you ever flown a Glider? The best time of day is sunset - fly just below the cloudbase (about 3000ft) and the orange/red glow from the clouds bathes the cockpit. Spectacular! Go hire a ride with an instructor and have the time of your life!!

  95. Worf,

    I don't know Gates political affiliation if any, I'm just pointing out that in the capitalist system, wealth and charity are not mutually exclusive.

    If Bill Gates gave nothing at all to charity, you'd still have to take into account all the people who he has provided gainful employment to, not to mention all the people employed in the industries that sprang up to support him.
    (I'm guessing the number is at least in the 10's of thousands if not 100's) How much food has he put on the table of how many people?

    As Reagan was fond of saying "A rising tide lifts all boats."

    It's interesting to note also that in America under capitalism, even our poor have color television sets and automobiles....

  96. Is that twit Larry around? I have a guestion for him.I have'nt watched the news the past few days,Did those two pricks Cheney and Rove get indicted yet? For the past week that idiot has said It's gonna happen tomorrow,I just know it.What a friggin maroon.

  97. Agreed Volt. Of course big business creates wealth and jobs.

    On the same note, the government, both under Clinton and Bush has done more to damage Microsoft than help it.

    The Microsoft anti trust trials were a farce, and a waste of taxpayers money.

    Idiots who couldn't format a floppy disk talking to gates about the impact of technology and how he should not have woven IE into Windows.

    Microsoft stock began to drop when charges were first introduced during the Clinton years. When Microsoft stock fell, others followed suit.

    Microsoft has done more for this planet from a technological perspective, than any company ever.

  98. Voltaire, i'm pretty much in agreement with your 6:30AM post as well.

    However Worf although I do agree that both Bill Gates and Microsoft have done a lot of good things, I think there is a legitimate argument that they have a monopoly or pretty close to it on operating systems, and I think it is pretty widely accepted regardless of your political affiliation that more competition is better than less. Now i'm not saying I agree with everything that went on in the anti trust hearings, but if you really think about it the reliability standards of Microsoft operating systems are pretty pathetic, I mean think about it would you find it acceptable if your refrigerator or tv crashed as frequently or had as many bugs and problems as your computer, I dont think so, in fact if it did, you would probably choose to buy a different brand the next time if that was the case. Unfortunately no such choice exists for operating systems or computers.

    Again i'm not saying Microsoft is the devil, theyve done a lot of good things, but I think they have a lock on the operating system business just like Standard oil did on the oil business 100 years ago and I think more competition would be a better thing, but that doesnt mean stifling innovation or regulating or penalizing them for the sake of looking pro active.

  99. Anonymous11:22 AM

    Does anyone find anything fishy about the Pentagon photo of 911 plane?

  100. The whole damned thing was fishy.

  101. Mike.

    While its true Microsoft has a monopoly, what you fail to realize is that monopoly is the result of our free capitalist system and competition.

    People have all kinds of misconceptions about Bill Gates and how he started Microsoft, but the TRUTH is, he was a brilliant, hard working young programmer, who was about a half century ahead of his time.

    Gates had vision, while the powerhouses of the computer industry, like IBM, wore bi-focals.

    He is the eee-pit-O-mee of a self starter, who risked EVERYTHING to build a start up out of a garage, the American dream. Do one thing. Do it right. Do it better than everybody else.

    Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door.Gates did. And now everyone is jealous of his success.

    Unix is a fine OS, but with open sourced code, and no standard platform, it will NEVER become a mainstream product. I said this 20 years ago, and I still stand by it.

    You wanna spend 30,000 dollars and 6 months to train your secretary to map a printer on your SUSE system? Or how about downloading 22 Binaries so you can play a simple game of Doom?

    Unix based OS's are always going to be around, and they will never become the mainstream OS.

    Not because of what Gates does, but because they refuse to standardize on a solid platform. Vendors aren't going to write drivers for 1000 different flavors of UNIX to get one peice of boxed software to market, nor should they have to.

    Thats not Gates fault. Its just the way it is with open systems.

  102. Apple did well, but their hardware based OS platform makes for a very limited and restricted market.

    Apple failed to become number one, because they tried to take BOTH sides of the pie.

    Gates was smart. He knew that SOFTWARE was the answer. Everyone was going to need software, and it would always be changing, improving.

    Hardware he saw as a limited market, in contrast to the leaders over at IBM, and therefore was willing to stay completely out of the hardware industry, focusing solely on developing software. To this day there is not one X86 PC made by Microsoft anywhere in the world.

    Steve Jobs on the other hand tried to take a slice from BOTH pies, and integrated the Motorola chip into his OS architecture, which was and is the number one reason why MAC OS never caught on.

    You had to by their hardware if you wanted it.

    Now, 30 years later, Jobs finally gets it, and is just beginning to release APPLE software that WILL run on an X86 platform.

    Its not Gates fault it too Jobs 30 years to figure it out.

  103. IBM OS2 WARP, was IBM's attempt to slay the giant they had created in Gates, early on.

    They copied and reversed engineered Windows NT 3.51, and stealing Gates 32 bit Kernel architecture, released their own true 32 bit operating system back in the late 80s.

    It was a flop.


    Because it sucked.

  104. And Novell?

    Novell doesn't make a PC "operating system", they make special network software that does special purposes for servers and such.

    They tried to corner the network market, and keep Gates from networking Windows.

    Networking Windows was Gates idea from day one, and their pathetic attempts to restrict the network OS market so we would all be stuck having to buy their crap if we wanted to run a network, failed eventually.

  105. Rusty, thank you for your comment.

  106. Of course I am being facetious Rusty Shackleford.

  107. Washington Post:

    69% of Americans think the country is on the Wrong track.

    56% say they want the Democrats in control of Congress after the elections.

    32% approve of the way of the way Bush is handling Iraq war.

    Democrats are preferred to handling terrorism by 46%-41%.

  108. British Gary -- what an amazing diving picture. Beautiful!

  109. Anonymous11:51 AM

    It's all moot if the voting machines aren't working. 100 of them are down and counting....big scandal that no one wants to wake up to.

  110. Smaller companies like STACKER, and QuarterDeck, tried early on to "Compartmentalize" operating systems and allow themselves to make certain components, like memory managers and disk compression utilities seperate.

    People buying Windows who wanted to free up some memory (back in the day when we tweaked such things), or compress their harddrive, would have to buy each component seperately.

    It was like telling automobile dealers they could sell cars, but not with Alternators, Starters or Tires on them. For those the customer would have to go to a specialty shop.

    Gates fought back, and for that, he gained a reputation as a hard ass.

  111. Sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread. Its just people really don't understand what happened with Microsoft, and how the governments meddling almost took the most successful company in mankinds history, and drove it into the ground.

    Listening to the Judges and attorneys from the government and Netscape crying about how IE was "woven" into the Windows operating system was like listening to the 3 Stooges trying to explain string theory.

    What they didn't see, was that IE was the core all along, and internetworking the systems was ALWAYS the goal and what Windows needed to be perfected.

    The Feds were going to break up Microsoft into 3 seperate companies, which would have been the stupidist thing they ever did.

    Thank God they didn't. They need to stay out of such things like technology, or anything that requires actual intelligence.

  112. The bad thing is, Microsoft is doing more with China, whose main focus is stealing technology and any thing they haven't learned to make.

  113. Mike said
    but if you really think about it the reliability standards of Microsoft operating systems are pretty pathetic

    Absolutely UNTRUE.

    Microsoft operating systems are as stable as any UNIX based OS. Applications all over the world are run on Windows Servers. In fact, more businesses use Windows Servers than UNIX based OS.

    While its true some OS's like Windows 98 and ME had issues with stability, those OS's are long gone. Windows 2000 changed everything for the casual computer user, and XP is as stable as they come.

    Computers will always act up, as 3rd party hardware and software misbehaves, but thats always going to be there. UNIX based OS's show no more stability than NT 4, 2000 or 2003 Server. Some UNIX admins will tell you so, but its merely a preference. Windows is a stable, secure OS. People saying otherwise usually know very little about Windows.

  114. Worf all valid points you made, and I do have a lot of respect for Gates and all he did, I realize you have a lot more knowledge and experience with operating systems than I do, but I think if I distilled what I was trying to say down to one main point I guess it would be that although Microsoft clearly does have the best operating system out there I think that due to their monopoly status complacency has set in and they are more concerned with updating and improving their product just enough and fixing just enough flaws and bugs to maximize sales instead of inovating as much as possible and putting out the best product they can. In other words because there is no real direct competion they purposely leave flaws so they can fix them for the next sales cycle a few years down the road.

    I feel that the level of reliability or lack thereof in operating systems would not be tolerated by the consumer in any other consumer electronics product because most other products have real competition and consumers have other options that force companies to make more of an effort to put out the best product they are capable of creating not merely one that is just enough better to get people to buy it. that being said I'm not sure that regulating or penalizing Microsoft is the answer if they are not stifling competition, but I think steps to encourage competition so companies put forth their best most reliable product would benefit everyone. deciding what those steps are is what is difficult.

  115. Larry, doing business with China is not necessarily bad. Microsoft does not export advanced encryption to China, so its kinda moot.

    They get windows "lite".

  116. I mean is it to much to expect our computers to be as reliable as or TV's or refrigerators, you would think with a company with the vast resources of Microsoft they could make a product as reliable as a PS2 or a tv, a refrigerator etc... is that too much to expect from the premire company it IT, with billions in its R & D budget.????

  117. Mike said;
    I think that due to their monopoly status complacency has set in and they are more concerned with updating and improving their product just enough and fixing just enough flaws and bugs to maximize sales instead of inovating as much as possible and putting out the best product they can

    I strongly disagree. If you knew what went into writing OS code, you would too.

    Windows is a wonderful operating system. I'm using it. You're using it. Johnny's probably on a MAC, but most people in here use it.

    What is it precisely about Windows that you feel is inferior? And if you really feel that way, why not go out and buy a copy of RED HAT Linux? 79 bucks at Best Buy. Cheeper than Windoze, and they even give rebates.

    Why if you feel that way, are you talking to me on a Windoze system, instead of a UNIX based OS?

  118. Last time I checked you are working on an old PC with no Sound Card or Speakers.

    Maybe you should try buying a new PC if you're having so many issues with Windows and stop blaming the OS.

  119. If Windows is so bad, and UNIX based OS's are so good, why are you talking to me on a Windows system?

  120. Worf said " They get Windows lite"

    I am glad they do not export advanced encryption to China, because China will steal any thing they can.

    I know of a company that makes padlocks, and China duplicated it and called it their own in spite of any patents.

    I came out of the Vitreous China industry where China now rules with duplication.

  121. Its the oriental way Larry.

    They're like the Borg. They assimilate new technology from other nations and cultures, as a rule. Its always been their way.

    But not exporting encryption is a good thing.

  122. I'm not picking on you Mike, its just this is, in my humble opinion, a common misconception in this country that Gates is some kind of Ken Lay or Bernie Ebbers, instead of the great blessing to our country his gifted mind has been.

    Gates put us on top of the world, and made us the technological giant to every nation, kindred and tongue.

    We owe him so much in many ways, yet in the 90's it became fashionable to criticize him and Windoze, so everyone started doing it. And invariably when you ask them just "what" about Windows they don't like, they seldom form a coherent response.

  123. maybe i'm in left field and expect too much, but I just think our PC's should be more reliable than that and not break and get infected with spyware all the time.

    BTW, my PC is 4 years old its a pentium 4 and everthing worked fine including the sound and video until it started getting infected by spyware last summer, I bought a firewall and anti virus and spyware protection and still had problems I just dont see why with billions of dollars Microsoft cant design a more stable operating system and the software companies cant provide better protection for spyware.

    I mean I feel like a woman getting taken advantage of by a car dealer I took my PC in twice to have it fixed they charged me $100 each time and didnt fix a damn thing.

  124. Do you think a 4 year old pentium 4 is outdated????

  125. Lydia said "This last line make me think how vital it is that we speak out against lies and corruption in our government. I hardly recognize America anymore. IT IS VITAL TO keep in mind that if, instead of siding with Hitler, the Christians of Germany - who represented some 96% of the population - had joined with the Jews, handicaps, homosexuals and the "Liberals", there would have been no war and no holocaust!"

    Lydia, great post, I've been saying that since I came here that we need to to speak out against lies and corruption in our government early while we still have a voice, evil tends to grow in power if unchecked and unchallenged and Hitler could have been stopped if good people would have spoken up early in the game and challenged his rhetoric and corrupt policies before it was too late. I dont like the current path our country is going down under the Bush administration and I feel it is crucial to speak out now before it is too late even if it is only discussing key issues and bouncing around ideas on this blog, just shining the light of truth on the lies and poisonous rhetoric coming out of this administration does a lot of good.

  126. Mike said;

    I just dont see why with billions of dollars Microsoft cant design a more stable operating system and the software companies cant provide better protection for spyware.

    LOL, don't hate me Mike, but I'm not letting this one go.

    If you buy a new set of tires, and someone comes along and punctures one with a screwdriver, is it the tire makers fault?

  127. Is it incumbent on the tire manufacturer to invent a material not yet known to man that is both pliable and yet impervious to penetration?

    Or should you just watch out for guys with screwdrivers?

  128. Windows is stable.

    Viruses however are a 3rd party variable that would be less prominent if people would stop forcing Microsoft to open their code for inspection.

    Closed code means secure OS.

  129. Mike said;

    I mean I feel like a woman getting taken advantage of by a car dealer.

    You sound like a woman getting taken advantage of by a car dealer.


  130. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

    But seriously, a computer is a complicated peice of equipment.

    No matter how simple they try and make them, our applications and uses for them will never be that simple.

    We want them to do the world, but require the mental effort of a gnat to operate.

    The truth is using a computer requires learning, and most of us are resistent to learning new things as we get older.

    Driving a computer is certainly as hard as driving a car, and we send kids to school for that.

    Now, in classrooms all across America kids are being taught the basic skills they need to operate a PC safely and effectivly so they won't have as much problem assimilating this new technology as we did.

    Don't worry Mike, most of my friends have the exact same problems. Thats why they're my friends I think, cause they always talk me into fixing their stuff, lol.

  131. Worf said "Windows is stable.

    Viruses however are a 3rd party variable that would be less prominent if people would stop forcing Microsoft to open their code for inspection.

    Closed code means secure OS."

    I stand corrected, good point.

    Worf said "If you buy a new set of tires, and someone comes along and punctures one with a screwdriver, is it the tire makers fault?"

    and good example, I concede microsoft, but I still think the software companies that make anti spyware and anti virus protection could do a better job, but i'm ready to move on to the next topic.

  132. ok.

    But I can stay on this one if you like, lol. As you can see it's a favorite of mine.


  133. Clif Said "Carl I see it differently, the woman had just sinned against GOD and not hurt the lives of her fellow men, where as the money changers were hurting the poor and weaker of their fellow citizens and Christ saw this as a greater sin because it not only sinned against GOD but hurt other of GOD's children......"

    isnt it amazing that so little has changed in 2000 years, time after time I hear repugs trying to compare Clinton getting a blow job to causing hundreds of thousands of deaths by lying us into a corrupt war for self serving interests or appointing incompetent cronnies to key positions then turning your back on the poor and those in need such as during Katrina.

    Clif is absolutely right there is no comparison adultery while wrong does not compare in magnitude to sins against society such as turning your back on the poor or those in need or bullying, oppressing or taking advantage of those who are weaker, or lies that result in unneccessary and senseless deaths to enrich the few elite.

  134. AP Updated: 4:39 p.m. ET May 17, 2006
    WASHINGTON - President Bush signed a $70 billion tax-cut package Wednesday that Republicans hope will ingratiate them with voters as they head into midterm elections with worries about holding control of Congress.

    “Our pro-growth policies stand in stark contrast to those in Washington who believe you grow your economy by raising taxes and centralizing power,” said Bush, who was joined at the signing ceremony by Vice President Dick Cheney. “They are wrong. Our pro-growth economic polices are working for all Americans.”

    The GOP says the tax cuts, which were first enacted in 2003, have created millions of new jobs and bolstered tax revenue. Democrats overwhelmingly opposed the bill, saying the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends will flow mostly to rich Americans.

  135. Amazing, deficits as far as the eye can see, the dollar has been falling steadily and they Cut taxes, thats like someone drowing in debt quitting their second job because they feel they are "ENTITLED" to a better life style.

  136. Mike:

    Did you see the Repub leaders on their little photo ops today, boasting of their tax cuts and how it will help average Americans?

    The "tax cut" will give someone making $20,000-$30,000 a whopping $9.

    That will really help average Americans.

  137. I for one am going on the record I was wrong about Karl Rove being indicted yesterday.

    I had a feeling it would happen on Monday, but I was incorrect.

    Perhaps Friday.

  138. Anyone making under 100,000 per year, won't see SQUAT.

  139. I agree Larry, it m,akes me sick, how is giving $9 to the poor or $43 to the lower middle class going to stimulate the economy or create jobs, its all rhetoric and smoke and mirrors with these guys.

  140. I was also wrong about the indictment. In all my excitement and anticipation, I thought it would happen.

    The grand jury is meeting today so maybe this week America will see their dreams become a reality.

  141. Right now the last thing we need are tax cuts. We need to stimulate the economy.

    Tax incentives for large and smaller corporations can be a good thing if used correctly. But you can't do it on a buddy plan, or for political reasons.

    Tax incentives for businesses should be for things like hiring US Workers and NOT for Outsourcing, investing in the communities, and paying a living wage.

    Then we'd see people singing the praises of whoever was in office.

  142. There is good news. The Bush Brigade will reap a tax harvest.

    Maybe that is what they think the middle class is.

  143. They're meeting on Friday, right Larry?

  144. Mike it is about the rich accumulating as much as possible before the next economic melt-down. The poor who have very many bills will just loose and the middle class will sell their stocks at a loss just to attempt to save their homes, thus the rich who are accumulating larger amounts of capital with the tax cuts will clean up at the depression sale this country will have to go through after the debt comes due and the dollar tanks....

  145. CNN said the grand jury are meeting today and Friday.

    MSNBC said yesterday, Fitzgerald was staying in Washington because they were meeting.

  146. I know I may take heat on this one, but another thing that has always bothered me is the social security deal where the wealthy only pay social security on the the first $90,000 of their income, and when ever you bring this up they say why should they pay it on their entire income if they cant collect.

    Now why would someone as wealthy as Cheney or Buffett or Rummy want or need to collect social security? I cant even conceive how they would want to take the money away from someone who really needs it just because they can. I have family members worth 8 figures who are democrats despise what the Bush Admiinstration is doing and are good people who give to charity regularly and would fit right in on this blog and yet both collect social security and I just cant understand it.

    If the wealthy would pay social security on there entire income and people who didnt need it didnt collect it would be there for people who did need it.Do you really think it would be a hardship on Bill Gates or Warren Buffet
    to pay social security on their entire income.

  147. Worf said "Tax incentives for businesses should be for things like hiring US Workers and NOT for Outsourcing, investing in the communities, and paying a living"

    Exactly right Worf, we need to give tax credits and incentives to encourage companies to not outsource and keep good paying jobs here or our middle class will shrink further as will our standard of living, manufacturing has been being outsourced for a while, but they are now regularly outsorcing IT and engineering /R & D jobs as well and if that contines we will become a country of burger flippers and our standard of living will becline as India's and China's rise.

  148. There is a petition going around to get the law changed so all politicians will get Social Security instead of their lavish govt retirements.

    The argument is, if they have the same Social Security as everyone else, they will fix the system, instead of taking money from it for their projects.

  149. Clif, i'll e-mail you later to see if we can meet up because I hit the road tomorrow and will be incommunicado till Saturday and possibly Sunday if I meet up with you.

  150. That would be another move in the right direction Larry, these guys dont care about something that doesnt effect them.

  151. Mike one of the ways that the repugs always gets the poorer lowerclass is promising a ytax cut, but most lower wage people oay more in SS taxes, which are never getting cut than payroll revenue taxes, and to boot Bush takes every extra SS dollar that the poor pay in a higher rate than any person earning 180,000 or more, and use it to prop up more tax cuts...they have been robbing SS since Reagan's time, half of the national debt is owed to SS

  152. The politicians of either party will never allow themselves to receive the same Social Security as everyone else.

    They should also be on the same healthcare system as the 46 million without any.

    I bet they would take care of that as well.

  153. Like I said its a smoke and mirrors with these liars.

  154. Mike if you are going to be in the Area Sunday I will try and be around, plus I will email you my cell ph # so George can listen in also....

  155. If the congress personnel had to follow the active duty regiment of a soldiers health care and their families had to use tricare neither program would have the current problems, and after leaving office they can only use the VA, that would lead to wholesale changes in that system

  156. For a group that is supposed to be so Pro military, they sure have gutted the benefits of veterans.

    The VA system has fallen by the way in favor of whatever they want to use those dollars for.

  157. Larry they just want soldiers to fight their corupt war for them, they could care less about them after that,after that its may as well die and decrease the surplus population.

  158. Larry I wouldnt call the repugs pro military, I think calling them pro war is more accurate.

  159. Ray McGovern, the former CIA analyst who verbally attacked Rummy at a press conference a couple of weeks ago, will be on Lou Dobbs in a few minutes.

  160. Every repug has fought to cut veterans benefits to pay for tax cuts or their favorite ear marks to their campaigm contributor buddies, they spuot words during election times and at parades and ceremonies but NEVER at the time for fully funding the veterans medical care they helped make necessary.....the cycle will begin again right after the Iraqi and Iranian situation are cleared from the nations TV screens...there are still vets of WW2 Korea that have issues from their service that need VA treatment and the wait times are getting longer, not toi mention the Vietnam, Greneda, Gulf war, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraqi, Panama vets, andf the ones Georgie wants to make in Iran.

  161. worfeus said...

    Gates was smart. He knew that SOFTWARE was the answer. Everyone was going to need software, and it would always be changing, improving.

    True, and the Microsoft business case is taught in B-schools worldwide.

    But here comes Apple. Gates has made a huge mistake and gambled MS on three things:

    1) That his operating system is the only thing that will run on PCs

    2) That MS can dominate the gaming business as easily as it did the PC software market

    3) That MS will port Windows easily to a family machine, since people use Windows at work.

    Apple has taken a tack that I believe will ultimately force MS into bankruptcy: grab the hardware market with design and ease, and the hearts and minds will follow.

    MS and Apple have been gearing up for a showdown for a few years now, ever since Apple took a swing at MS's markets with Safari and Keynote. Quietly, Apple has developed very good products that exploit the Apple OS. MS's response?

    They've stopped supporting Apple, and have been slow to improve their primary cash cow, Office for the Mac.

    Apple now has a toe in the Windows market with Boot Camp. I predict within five years, Apple's marketshare of the OS software market will exceed Microsoft.

    Yes. It will happen that quickly. Apple has already carved back out significant inroads by porting the iPod design to its Macs (I'm currently on a G5 iMac, and it's my sixth Mac computer, and this one is one amazing machine). As people have learned how easy an iPod is to use, and that its even easier to use with a Mac and Mac prices continue to drift downward, Apple will eventually reach a critical mass of users and the avalanche will begin.

    Almost makes me wistful for the days of my Performa 6360CD....

  162. Lawmaker: Marines killed Iraqis ‘in cold blood’
    Navy conducting war crimes probe into November violence in Haditha

    WASHINGTON - A Pentagon probe into the death of Iraqi civilians last November in the Iraqi city of Haditha will show that U.S. Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood," a U.S. lawmaker said Wednesday.

    From the beginning, Iraqis in the town of Haditha said U.S. Marines deliberately killed 15 unarmed Iraqi civilians, including seven women and three children.

    One young Iraqi girl said the Marines killed six members of her family, including her parents. “The Americans came into the room where my father was praying,” she said, “and shot him.”

    On Wednesday, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said the accounts are true.

    Military officials told NBC News that the Marine Corps' own evidence appears to show Murtha is right.

    A videotape taken by an Iraqi showed the aftermath of the alleged attack: a blood-smeared bedroom floor and bits of what appear to be human flesh and bullet holes on the walls.

    The video, obtained by Time magazine, was broadcast a day after town residents told The Associated Press that American troops entered homes on Nov. 19 and shot dead 15 members of two families, including a 3-year-old girl, after a roadside bomb killed a U.S. Marine.

    On Nov. 20, U.S. Marines spokesman Capt. Jeffrey Pool issued a statement saying that on the previous day a roadside bomb had killed 15 civilians and a Marine. In a later gunbattle, U.S. and Iraqi troops killed eight insurgents, he said.

    U.S. military officials later confirmed that the version of events was wrong.

    I posted about this before but it is getting bigger, and with situations like My Lai from vietnam as a comparison, this will not help the arguments for war or thr idiot in chief,

    We have lost about all pretense for anything as a reason to invade and the situation is getting worse by the day,,

    Wonder why the repugs in congress and the white house want to talk about sending troops to the mexican border and illegal immigrants, instead of the optional war started by lies and deception on the part of Bush and Cheney, could it be the war is going soooo badlyt that there is no good way to spin the bad news?

  163. Clif,

    You spoke far more eloquently than I on the difference between the harlot and the moneychangers.

    Sometimes I let my words get in the way of my thoughts.

    BritGary, here are some of my diving photos:

    From NYC

    From Bonaire:

    I'm heading back to Bonaire this summer, and my daughter and I will both have cameras. She's the young lady feeding the cat in one of the Bonaire pix.

    I shoot an Oly5050CZ

  164. Oh, and Gary?

    Fly a glider? Hell, I can barely manage driving a car! :-)

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  166. Just came across an interesting book called "The Bush Agenda: Invading The World One Economy at a Time.
    Here's part of the review on the book jacket:

    The corporations, the neoconservatives, and the GWB Administration are three interlocking groups with fluid demarcations. Iraq represents several things to these players: Oil, wealth, regional power, and global power. Iraq presents them with the first opportunity for a truly imperial invasion.... And as President Bush has repeatedly said Iraq is only the beginning.

    In this important book renowned international trade and finance policy expert Antonia Juhasz exposes a radical corporate globalization agenda more befitting a ruthless empire than a world leader of demoracy. thia agenda has been refined by leading members and allies of the Bush administration over decades and has reached its most aggressive implementation under GWB. And Bush Agenda adherants hope it will outlast him.

    Juhasz brings into sharp focus the dangerous fallacy that the USA can combat terrorism and spread democracy through its so called free trade policies, which are allowing the world's largest corporations to earn vast wealth for a few elite players at the expense of entire populations. The result has been dislocation, extreme poverty, and increased violence and terrorism worldwide...........etc....

  167. Update on the Rove Indictment Story

    By Marc Ash,

    Wed May 17th, 2006 at 12:52:48 PM EDT :: Fitzgerald Investigation

    For the past few days, we have endured non-stop attacks on our credibility, and we have fought hard to defend our reputation. In addition, we have worked around the clock to provide additional information to our readership. People want to know more about this, and our job is to keep them informed. We take that responsibility seriously.

    Here's what we now know: I spoke personally yesterday with both Rove's spokesman Mark Corallo and Rove's attorney Robert Luskin. Both men categorically denied all key points of our recent reporting on this issue. Both said, "Rove is not a target," "Rove did not inform the White House late last week that he would be indicted," and "Rove has not been indicted." Further, both Corallo and Luskin denied Leopold's account of events at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm that represents Karl Rove. They specifically stated again that no such meeting ever occurred, that Fitzgerald was not there, that Rove was not there, and that a major meeting did not take place. Both men were unequivocal on that point.

    We can now report, however, that we have additional, independent sources that refute those denials by Corallo and Luskin. While we had only our own sources to work with in the beginning, additional sources have now come forward and offered corroboration to us.

    We have been contacted by at least three reporters from mainstream media - network level organizations - who shared with us off-the-record confirmation and moral support. When we asked why they were not going public with this information, in each case they expressed frustration with superiors who would not allow it.

    We also learned the following: The events at the office building that houses the law firm of Patton Boggs were not in fact a very well-guarded secret. Despite denials by Corallo and Luskin, there was intense activity at the office building. In fact, the building was staked out by at least two major network news crews. Further, although Corallo and Luskin are not prepared to talk about what happened in the offices of Patton Boggs, others emerging from the building were, both on background and off-the-record. There were a lot of talkers, and they confirmed our accounts. We do have more information, but want additional confirmation before going public with it.


    We reported that Patrick Fitzgerald had, "instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 business hours to get his affairs in order...." That does not mean that at the end of that 24-hour period, Fitzgerald is obliged to hold a press conference and make an announcement. It just means that he has given Rove a 24-hour formal notification. Fitzgerald is not obliged to make an announcement at any point; he does so at his own discretion, and not if it compromises his case. So we're all stuck waiting here. Grab some coffee.

    I ain't saying we are going to see it tommorrow, but that don't mean KKKarl denies he was served...

  168. Carl said;

    Apple has taken a tack that I believe will ultimately force MS into bankruptcy:

    Dude, no offense but you're on crack. I admit that the introduction of an X86 based MAC OS will vastly disversify the MAC target market, but Microsoft is one of the most solid and stable businesses in the world.

    They are not going anywhere, and you can take that to the bank.


  169. Former Air Force Officer says Bush was never properly trained to be an officer....

    But here is something that is provable. No one in journalism has picked up one aspect of Bush's past: He never was properly trained to be a second lieutenant in the first place! I'm talking about before flight school, entrance to which requires an officer's commission.

    Those of us in the real Air Force got commissioned in one of three ways: The Air Force Academy, ROTC, or -- if already college graduates -- the Officer Training School at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas. If you saw the film An Officer and a Gentleman, depicting the Navy's version, you have a rough idea of what that training was like. It was goddamned hard.

    But young Georgie didn't have to go through it. If you examine his records, you will find that he was given a direct commission as a second lieutenant after completing enlisted basic training and nothing more! Bang: He went directly from Airman Third Class, which is the rank of someone just out of basic, to a second lieutenant with a few typewriter keystrokes. Then he went to flight school.

    Now I don't know if this was standard procedure for everyone in the Guard -- I was too busy spying on Americans to pay attention. We always assumed that Guardsmen and Reservists who wore the same uniform and the same insignia of grade as we did had undergone same training we did. But some kind of favoritism certainly applied to the arrogant young punk who was to become Commander Codpiece -- again, a psycho of the first magnitude who really and truly believes he is a war hero.

  170. Good Christian values, you know the ones that say a father and mother should not live with their children unless the religious right approves their marital situation....

    BLACK JACK, Mo. - The city council has rejected a measure allowing unmarried couples with multiple children to live together, and the mayor said those who fall into that category could soon face eviction.

    Olivia Shelltrack and Fondrey Loving were denied an occupancy permit after moving into a home in this St. Louis suburb because they have three children and are not married.

    The town's planning and zoning commission proposed a change in the law, but the measure was rejected Tuesday by the city council in a 5-3 vote.

    "I'm just shocked," Shelltrack said. "I really thought this would all be over, and we could go on with our lives."

    The current ordinance prohibits more than three people from living together unless they are related by "blood, marriage or adoption." The defeated measure would have changed the definition of a family to include unmarried couples with two or more children.

    Mayor Norman McCourt declined to be interviewed but said in a statement that those who do not meet the town's definition of family could soon face eviction.

    Black Jack's special counsel, Sheldon Stock, declined to say whether the city will seek to remove Loving and Shelltrack from their home.

  171. Religious right Republicans attack Laura Bush, call her "tragic"
    by John in DC - 5/17/2006 06:16:00 PM

    Picking on the first lady because she doesn't think bashing gays should be an issue Republicans exploit in the fall elections. This should be interesting. And from the American Family Association, no less.

    Then again, it has to suck for the American Family Association to finally see all of Mary Cheney's inside influence coming home to roost. You don't invite an avowed lesbian activist, which Mary very much was once upon a time (she wasn't just the gay liaision for Coors, she was also on the board of a gay-straight activist group), into the inner most circles of Republican power and NOT expect her openly-gay presence and rather strong-willed views to influence those around her.

    Pick up Mary's book, folks (but please don't buy it, it's really not worth it, just browse at a bookstore). In the book Mary makes clear that lots and lots and LOTS of Republican aides came into her office, closed the door, and told her how awful they thought this anti-gay constitutional amendment was. Mary was their friend, and they didn't want to do ANYTHING to hurt their friend. Does anyone in the religious right REALLY think ANY of those staffers are pulling the extra hours to help make gay-bashing a high priority in the Mary Cheney White House? I don't think so.

    And you just saw Mary's influence on Laura Bush. Does anyone really believe that it's a coincidence that Laura Bush is speaking out rather unfavorably on the religious right gay-bashing agenda the same week that Mary Cheney's "I'm a lesbian and dad thinks it's okay" book comes out? Please.

    The lesson here for Republicans and corporate America is that whether you're a big American company (Ford) or the president of the United States (Bush), if you get in bed with these people they WILL burn you. They know no loyalty, no limits, and have no sense of politics other than threatening to destroy you unless you agree with 110% of their agenda. To hell with gas prices going through roof, seniors getting threatened with Medicare cut-offs, the war in Iraq getting worse every day. The religious right Republicans will demand that you focus on THEIR extreme fringe agenda, even if it shoots you in the foot, or you're dead.

    You created Frankenbigot, my Republican friends, now you get to live with it.

  172. Hey Clif, I think worf jinxed me, my computer crashed and wont boot up, so after 2 hours I finally got my 10 year old computer fired up, i'm going to send you an e-mail since I wont be able to check in here till Saturday. if you want to get in touch with me drop me an e-mail as I will check it every night. Probably be out your way Sunday, but if I make good time it could be Saturday as well.

  173. I didn't mean to Jinx you Mike.

  174. Worfeus actually was tryibg to hex you Mike the jinx was the best he could get out so quickly...LOL

  175. From the Wayne Madsen Report;

    May 17, 2006 -- LATE EDITION -- WMR can report tonight on more details concerning the confusing reports regarding Karl Rove and Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald from last Friday. WMR can confirm that the appearance of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales before the Grand Jury at the US Federal Courthouse in Washington was a formality in which the jury informed the Attorney General of their decision to indict Karl Rove. That proceeding lasted for less than 30 minutes and took place shortly after noon. Gonzales's personal security detachment was present in the courthouse during the Grand Jury briefing. From the courthouse, Gonzales's motorcade proceeded directly down Constitution Avenue to the Department of Justice.

    According to sources within the Patton and Boggs law firm, Karl Rove was present at the law firm's building on M Street. WMR was told by a credible source that a Patton and Boggs attorney confirmed that Fitzgerald paid a visit to the law firm to inform Rove attorney Robert Luskin and Rove that an indictment would be returned by the Grand Jury against Rove. Contrary to other reports, some of which may have emanated from the Rove camp in order to create diversions and smokescreens, the meetings at Patton and Boggs did not last 15 hours nor was a 24-hour notice of intent to indict delivered to Rove. In the Scooter Libby case last October, after the Grand Jury decided to indict Libby on Friday, October 21 and the Attorney General personally heard the decision the same day at a meeting with the jury, the actual indictment was issued the following Friday, October 28. Several sources have told WMR that an announcement concerning the indictment of Rove will be made on Friday, May 19 generally following the same scenario from October 28, 2005 -- the posting of the indictment on the Special Prosecutor's web site followed by a press conference at Main Justice.

    WMR was also told by a credible source that part of the reason for Fitzgerald's visit to Patton and Boggs was to inform Rove attorney Luskin that he has moved into the category of a "subject" of the special prosecutor's investigation as a result of a conversation with Time reporter Viveca Novak, in which Novak told Luskin that Rove was a source for Time's Matt Cooper. The special prosecutor, who has prosecuted one defense attorney in the Hollinger case, is reportedly investigating whether Luskin, as an officer of the court, may have violated laws on obstruction of justice.

    WMR has also discovered that last year Rove, realizing he remained a lightning rod in the CIA Leakgate scandal, made preliminary plans to move into the private sector from the White House to take political heat off the Bush administration. However, as it became clear that he was in over his head legally and his legal bills piled up, Rove decided to remain at the White House.

  176. Anonymous9:43 AM

    Hi, I find in funny that you would stand in front of a statue of Reagan. When you google your husband's name. It says he married Patty Davis, Ronald Reagan's daughter back in 1994

  177. LOL, your too much anonymouse, what is she supposed to do throw darts at Reagan or have a Reagan Voodoo doll, we all have pasts, and like usual you fail to make a point among your drivel.

  178. Well i'm about to hit the Road, usually everytime I go on vacation some big newsworthy story comes out, hope that isnt the case this time unless.........KKKarl Rove is indicted, that i could handle, the sooner the better. I'll be incomunicado for the next few days, so hold down the fort while i'm gone and dont do anything I wouldnt do LOL.

  179. Well, looks like the guy who didn't know the 4th Ammendment calls for "Probable Cause" is going to head up the CIA.


  180. So what kind of trip is this your taking Mike?

    Are you going to see Clif too?

  181. Motorcycle trip to Buffalo, I should see Clif Sunday hopefully.

    see ya!

  182. You're gonna get wet.

  183. Anonymous said...
    Hi, I find in funny that you would stand in front of a statue of Reagan. When you google your husband's name. It says he married Patty Davis, Ronald Reagan's daughter back in 1994

    I'm missing the point.

    Are you making fun of divorces?

    Wasn't Reagan banging Nancy when he was still married to Jane Wyman?

  184. I wonder which destroys more marriages...gays trying to get married,

    Or straights getting divorced?

  185. Well considering the divorce rate in America is over 50 percent, I'd say the "sanctity" of Marriage has been long since removed.

    Kudos to Russ Feingold for walking out of the closed door Senate meeting this morning, and shame on Specter for going ahead anyway and disrespecting a fellow senators sincere objection.

    This republican iron rule, my way or the highway crap has gone on too long.

  186. Come November a few of them might find out we mean the highway(even if by way of federal prison) for them...

  187. Reuters:

    Senior Bush 04 Campaign Official was sent to prison for 10 months, for his role in suppressing votes in a key US Senate rate.

    Maybe he will see Rove there.

  188. Baghdad:

    Attacks by insurgents killed at least 24 people, including 4 US servicemen.

    The total ( reported) death toll stands at 2455 US military.

    Bush sure is "Commander in Chief"

  189. Gee suppressing votes.

    Imagine that.

  190. And things are getting worse in Afghanistan;

    Scores dead in heavy Afghan fighting
    Canadian officer becomes country's first female combat death

  191. You know, call me crazy, but wouldn't we have been better served winning the war in Afghanistan first before starting wars with NON Terrorist countries?

    Wouldn't putting 150,000 troops in Afghanistan and finishing the job there have been a better way to fight this "war on terror"?

    After all, the guys that attacked us are living in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

  192. And worfeus they are getting stronger better equiped and attacking much more brazenly...must not have had a mission accomplished in Afghanistan either, just another photo op for the pResident of photo ops...

  193. Bush put less than one quarter of the troops he put in Iraq, in Afghanistan.

    This is a clear and visible token of his real concern for getting the people responsible for 911.

  194. Bush and Cheney can make more money from Iraq, than they could in Afganistan.

    They could care less about avenging 911, but they do care about how they can use it for their own gain.

    Real Patriots.

  195. Yea. Real Patriots if you're rooting for the enemy.

  196. Carl,
    great photos of Bon. thanks. I love looking at dive piccies. Brings back loads of great memories of the Caribbean, enjoy yourself this summer!

    As for the gliding, if you really get off diving you've got to give gliding a go. Book a flight with an instructor at sunset for the experience. And go for an aerotow (usually a Cessna airplane) rather than a winch launch as you'll go higher and the flight will last longer.

  197. Dozens killed in heavy fighting in Afghanistan

    KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - Some of the fiercest violence since the Taliban’s ouster in 2001 erupted across southern Afghanistan, with militants battling coalition forces, detonating car bombs and attacking a small village. Up to 105 people were killed, officials said Thursday.

    The violence occurred in Helmand and Kandahar provinces, where 9,000 NATO-led forces are scheduled to deploy this summer to suppress the stubborn insurgency.

    The Taliban death toll from fighting Wednesday night and Thursday ranged up to 87, U.S. and Afghan officials said. Also, 14 Afghan police officers, one American civilian, a Canadian soldier and an Afghan civilian also were killed in the fighting, officials said.

    Violence recently has been rising in southern Afghanistan, with militants launching increasingly bold attacks and suicide bombings.

    The surge in violence comes as NATO prepares to take over security operations from the U.S.-led coalition, which has been hunting for Taliban and al-Qaida militants in the region since late 2001. Troops from nations including Canada, Britain and the Netherlands are moving into the south.

    No wonder they are spending so much time getting the MSM to focus on illegal immigration.

  198. hi Worf,
    where's your piccie gone?

    You ever heard of D8 (not to be confused with G8)? See:

    It seems the influence of neocons on spineless, zealous rethugs is catalysing Muslim needs for nuclear weapons to guarantee safety from Bushco. So much for the NNPT.

    Also, it seems relations with Venezuela are about to get a lot worse:

    Venezuelan Foreign Minister Ali Rodriguez accused the Bush administration yesterday of climbing to "new heights of cynicism and shamelessness" with its Monday decision on arms sales
    "Behind its despicable accusations is a useless campaign of shame designed to isolate Venezuela, destabilize its democratic government and prepare the political conditions for an ATTACK," Mr. Rodriguez said.

  199. hi Clif,

    yeah, distract and divert. MO for KKKarl, protege of the 'gentle, kind-hearted' Lee Atwater.

  200. A proud salute to Canadian, Captain Nichola Goddard, 26, for sacrificing her life so others may live in peace & freedom.

    Eighteen turbans were peeled in the fighting.

    I also salute all Americans who have sacrificed themselves fighting taliban.

    Thanx Cliff...

    Wonder if loving thoughts are effective against extremists?