Max Adler, who plays Dave Karofsky in the Fox mega-hit TV series, “Glee”, was there, along with Brian Goodell, Kaitlin Sandeno, multiple Gold Medal Olympians, and many more stars.
1:00PM there was a fun horseshoe competition, Frisbee toss, soccer kick, etc.
$25 to WALK and $50 for VIP celebrity lunch and WALK!
http://younghollywoodlife.com/2012/10/03/third-annual-celebrity-charity-walk-n-roll-for-fsh-muscular-dystrophy-sunday-october-7th-with-host-max-adler-from-glee/
http://younghollywoodlife.com/tag/lydia-cornell/
**If you have children, please feel free to bring them as they have a great area for the kids in the park.
Since the FSH Society is dedicated to finding treatments and a cure for MS (an inherited disease, affecting both genders and all races-it melts away skeletal muscle from adolescence on), your participation in this Walk is very important as it will hopefully result in more sponsors, vendors, walkers and support!
Walk for Muscular Dystrophy in Heritage Park
http://www.fshsociety.org/pages/newsFundraisers2012_4.html
1:00PM there was a fun horseshoe competition, Frisbee toss, soccer kick, etc.
$25 to WALK and $50 for VIP celebrity lunch and WALK!
http://younghollywoodlife.com/2012/10/03/third-annual-celebrity-charity-walk-n-roll-for-fsh-muscular-dystrophy-sunday-october-7th-with-host-max-adler-from-glee/
http://younghollywoodlife.com/tag/lydia-cornell/
**If you have children, please feel free to bring them as they have a great area for the kids in the park.
Since the FSH Society is dedicated to finding treatments and a cure for MS (an inherited disease, affecting both genders and all races-it melts away skeletal muscle from adolescence on), your participation in this Walk is very important as it will hopefully result in more sponsors, vendors, walkers and support!
http://www.fshsociety.org/pages/newsFundraisers2012_4.html
That's a good cause to be walking for. I had a friend who's little brother had MD and died from it. Good job.
ReplyDeleteJohnny said...
ReplyDeleteMy grade 12 philosophy 101 book says that human beings are greedy by nature. Is this meaning & purpose?
Really? Is Lydia "greedy" for donating practically every weekend of her life to charitable causes like Muscular Dystrophy?
"Some" humans are greedy by nature.
Your mistake is seeing something, then concluding everyone must be exactly the same.
Your other mistake, is confusing human nature with purpose.
What makes you think, human nature has anything to do with purpose?
And yes, the very fact that you ask the question shows that in your mind you not only allow for the possibility that there might be one, it also shows that your mind is naturally predisposed to conclude that there "should" be one.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, you would never ask.
ReplyDeleteAs for what that purpose is, not sure, but Clif gave you a good read. I did do. Jonathan Livingston Seagull addresses this issue from a philosophical viewpoint.
Another good read is "The Road Less Traveled", by Dr. M Scott Peck, who was a famous Military psychiatrist who worked with PTSD cases during the Viet Nam war.
He addresses this question in the end of the book.
ReplyDeleteVoltron says the meaning of life is "spite".
Spite of course being one of the most petty and vile negative traits known to man.
Perhaps how he was raised, spite is a good reason to live. Perhaps his parents were horrible people and abused him in some way and now all he has left is spite. I could see that had he been beaten, molested, psychologically abused whatever.
And of course I could see Victor Frankl who spent years in the Nazi death camps seeing spite as a sole purpose for existence.
But spite because you have to put up with liberal health care, ..well....you see the point.
And ironically, Frankl discovered that it was love that gave life purpose. He wrote of this in his book "Mans Search for Meaning" (the book Johnny called "The meaning of life").
ReplyDeleteA thought transfixed me: for the first time in my life I saw the truth as it is set into song by so many poets, proclaimed as the final wisdom by so many thinkers.
The truth – that love is the ultimate and the highest goal to which man can aspire. Then I grasped the meaning of the greatest secret that human poetry and human thought and belief have to impart:
The salvation of man is through love and in love. I understood how a man who has nothing left in this world still may know bliss, be it only for a brief moment, in the contemplation of his beloved. In a position of utter desolation, when man cannot express himself in positive action, when his only achievement may consist in enduring his sufferings in the right way – an honorable way – in such a position man can, through loving contemplation of the image he carries of his beloved, achieve fulfillment.
For the first time in my life I was able to understand the meaning of the words, "The angels are lost in perpetual contemplation of an infinite glory... - Mans Search for Meaning
Interesting enough Frankl also concluded that there are only two types of men in the world. What he called "Decent" and "Indecent".
ReplyDeleteDecent was those who cared about their fellow man and helped those less fortunate than themselves, whether it be a Jewish Rabii or a Nazi Camp guard. If they did good, and cared for their fellow man they are good.
If they are cold, and can talk of killing others with the ease of discussing a football game, then they are the of the other sort.
Interesting
ReplyDeletemook mook can read books consisting of hundreds of pages on war
specifically WW2,
but for an answer to his question he cannot read either
Jonathan Livingston Seagull a book of a mere 127 pages half of which are pictures;
or
The Little Prince a book of a mere 96 pages, large type and double spaced.
Here mook mook
I am willing to offer help; the Little Prince book is online;
here.
You could read the entire book there is less then an hour.
and Jonathan Livingston Seagull is also online ;
here
probably could do that one in half an hour;
So to read either or both only requires a little of your time to go to the links and read.
Hope this helps .... if you want any help that is .... :)
Hey thanks for the link. I haven't read JLS in decades.
ReplyDeleteNo problem, you're welcome.
ReplyDeleteJonathan Livingston Moo Moo.
ReplyDelete"Really? Is Lydia "greedy" for donating practically every weekend of her life to charitable causes like Muscular Dystrophy?"
ReplyDeleteI hesitate to point this out because I'm sure I'll be dogged for it again, but here goes...
YES. And this is the root cause of most of her problems.
She's "greedy" for attention. She desperately wants to be seen as a "good" person. Note that it was her who actually said "seen". It's not about actually being a good person it's that other people "see" her as a good person. Read that as "IMAGE".
Note that almost every "good" deed she does is accompanied by a "PR Newswire" article. That's a news article that is PAID for, not simply an independent report.
Does not the bible say about charitable acts that you shouldn't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing?
I've tried to tell her to just "be" a good person and let OTHERS toot your horn. But evidently I'm an asshole for pointing this out.
But YES, she's greedy. For attention and for an image as a good person.
Now, let the hate mail flow...
ReplyDeleteOh and I should probably add that my parents weren't "horrible" people, nor was I abused by them in any way, psychologically or physically.
ReplyDeleteOh so you became the genocidal maniac you have admitted being, all on your own???????
ReplyDeleteInteresting admission volty.
Did you ever hear the song "live and let die"?
ReplyDeleteI prefer the Paul McCartney version...
Funny but you didn't say live and let die,
ReplyDeleteyou said force them to change their religion and cold bloodedly murder any who refuse ..... like most genocidal bigots usually do historically, you're trying to justify your hatred and retched statements.
In case you haven't noticed,
ReplyDeleteMost of the people who need help in this world don't want it.
As a matter of fact, they'll actively resent you for it.
Kind of akin to being unplugged in Johnny's world...
Funny you attribute a public statement as looking for attention instead of asking others to JOIN,
ReplyDeletelooks like the mirror you just held up shows much more about you then any Kreskin like knowledge you claim to have about Lydia.
You reveal so much and cannot understand why people have such a low opinion of you after you do so.
And Islamic culture and Western culture are diametrically opposed and incompatible.
ReplyDeleteOne culture has to end. I'd prefer it to be theirs.
In case you haven't noticed,
ReplyDeletetranslation here is volty's truths, even if they seem insane to a very large section of humanity.
Most of the people who need help in this world don't want it.
define "help",
In your case
"help" is doing exactly what YOU decide at the punishment of death for not obeying;
IE insane volty.
As a matter of fact, they'll actively resent you for it.
resent you for forcibly changing their entire culture and killing everyone who refuses????
why would they resent that????
Kind of akin to being unplugged in Johnny's world...
Nice pivot into a straw-man argument with a fictional argument.
And Islamic culture and Western culture are diametrically opposed and incompatible.
ReplyDeleteOne culture has to end. I'd prefer it to be theirs.
So says YOU
too bad the vast majority of humanity disagrees with your extreme right wing insane position.
I'm not looking for understanding Cliffy. I really don't care what you guys think of me.
ReplyDeleteLike they have historically disagreed with religiously based genocide.
ReplyDeleteYou remember how repulsive that idea was after WW2?????
ReplyDeleteI'm not looking for understanding Cliffy.
never saud you were volty.
I really don't care what you guys think of me.
that is why you spew the insane hatred and bigotry like you do so much eh??????
BTW why have you such a low opinion of most of the human race you always see the worst in almost everyone you post about except for your fellow extremists?
ReplyDeleteMust be a problem you aren't really ready to deal with inside yourself
ReplyDeleteYou ought to take a poll.
ReplyDeleteI sincerely doubt that "the vast majority" of humanity would disagree with me.
And you've also changed the subject. My comments were in regard to Johnny's statement about human beings being greedy by nature.
NOT about my beliefs about Islam in particular.
Other wise you wouldn't project so much on others you refuse to admit in your self.
ReplyDeletesorry but your statements about Islam are part and parcel of the crapola you spew here daily like your projection of your inner demons unto others. ....
ReplyDeletedeal with the fact that is who you claim to be.
ReplyDelete"BTW why have you such a low opinion of most of the human race you always see the worst in almost everyone you post about except for your fellow extremists?
ReplyDeleteWow. Pot meet Kettle...
which leads to the fact the claim of seeking attention likens back to making outrageous statements for attention sake,
ReplyDeletelike YOU do.
And you in particular "project" much more than anyone else here.
ReplyDeleteGoodnight Cliffy.
ReplyDeleteI do NOT have a low opinion of most of humanity;
ReplyDeletejust the homicidal maniacs like bin Laden,Stalin, Pol Pot, a sect of Germans circa 1933-45 and the extremists like you.
And you in particular "project" much more than anyone else here.
ReplyDeletewrong, see above;
night night volty,
ReplyDeletedon't let the imaginary bogeymen
in your head
haunt your dreams
any more then normal
for you.
Voltron said...
ReplyDeleteShe's "greedy" for attention.
Wow...guess when you're jaded so badly as to be able to embrace the ugly negative loseerdom of the Tea Party, anything's jaded in your eyes.
No Volty, she might "enjoy" as a side benefit the feelings she gets including being part of the action, but those are called "PERIPHERAL BENEFITS" that ALL PEOPLE who give to charity enjoy.
Its part of being a good person...which is obviously why you know nothing about it.
Does not the bible say about charitable acts that you shouldn't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing?
ReplyDeleteuhh, not when the purpose is to ATTRACT THE ATTENTION OF AS MANY POTENTIAL DONORS AS POSSIBLE.
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You twit.
See dummy, Lydia is a celebrity.
ReplyDeleteCelebrity's use their celebrity status to draw attention to charitable causes, thus expanding the reach of their message in drawing in prospective donors.
An average celebrity might donate 100 or 1000 dollars to a cause. In contrast using their celebrity status might help draw in 10,000 dollars in donations or more.
For you to even suggest she should not use her celebrity status to help others just shows what a pathetic loser you really are.
If it bugs you that a celebrity uses their status to help promote charitable causes, then you really are nothing more than an envious little prick.
Probably got a little prick too.
ReplyDeleteThat's probably the other side of puzzle, ..where you "come up short".
3 Inch said...
ReplyDeleteOh and I should probably add that my parents weren't "horrible" people, nor was I abused by them in any way, psychologically or physically.
So you have no excuse then.
You just embrace the petty, vile and base because that's what your soul consists of....all on its own.
Like Frankl said, only two types of people ultimately.
ReplyDeleteDecent, and indecent.
And we see which one he is with each word he writes.
OK,Cliffy,thanks for those links......I will check them out!Its actually been a while since I read a book.I love reading and encourage it on all levels. Who knows,I may yet see something Ive not yet seen?
ReplyDeleteVolt said:
"For attention and for an image as a good person."
Volts words are 100% accurate in many,many, cases. I'm not saying this is the case for Lydia but it is a nice gathering place for many a plastic phonies......period!
For example,John Wayne Gacy,performed much charitable/community work???
Also,I once met a dude who said "I only go to church so as to look good in face of the community."
Volts words are 100% accurate in many,many, cases. I'm not saying this is the case for Lydia but it is a nice gathering place for many a plastic phonies......period!
ReplyDeleteAnother jealous little menial labor stooge, who's pathetic life is so miserable that he can't stand seeing others who've done more, and who can do more, ...doing it.
ReplyDeleteAgain, one of the very "responsibilities" that comes with being a celebrity is using their celebrity status to draw attention and donations to needy causes.
But the pathetic, mealy mouthed little losers who's miserable lives are so petty and dull that they just have to lash out at anyone doing more, and being more, than themselves.
A Celebrity uses their celebrity status to help others.
And pathetic losers like Johnny and Voltron.....one counting drywall screws the other counting fuel receipts.....have to lash out like little babies, whenever they see them doing it.
Think about it.
ReplyDeleteTo these twits, celebrities should not use their celebrity status to help others. They should hide their celebrity status, stay in the shadows....hide under a rock or something, like these two twits do.
Of course they don't really believe that. They've got to know that part of being a celebrity is doing charity auctions and events, especially when you're semi retired.
It goes with the territory.
But they keep attacking Lydia, trying to tear down her spirit, tear down her self confidence, hurt her in any way they can, because that was their purpose here all along.
When these "people" came in here 6 years ago it was for one demonstrable purpose and one alone.
To belittle, ridicule and try to tear down the spirit of the liberal actress so as to weaken or silence altogether her blog and other activities.
That's all they ever wanted and have always tried to do.
So when we see Lydia doing charity events their natural response?
To insult her to the core, her very motives for doing them, and this is who they are. The "dark side" of the force, at is were.
Those who love damage.
We're sorry boys, that no one wants a couple of losers who count fuel receipts and do menial labor to promote their charity.
ReplyDeletePerhaps some day one of you two cretins will do something noteworthy enough to make someone want your help in drawing attention to a cause.
Like "Americas Most Wanted".
Of course there are probably things you could help with now, like AA for example, so they can show people what a used up old drunk looks like.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe to help fight physical disease. I've seen voltron's mug, and he could be the poster boy for either chronic facial warts or battered wives.
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...of course we'd have to put him in a dress for that last one there but...
. ....doubt it'd be the first time.
ReplyDeleteAnd by the way there bean counter boy, THIS is what Jesus said about those who have something worth sharing;
ReplyDeleteNo man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light. Luke 11:33
That Lydia's done more with her life and what was given to her than you have irks you no end, ...no doubt.
ReplyDeleteBut really....blubbering about her using her status to draw attention to charities to help others just shows what a pathetic, petty little man that you really are.
Fans and Friends of Voltron said...
ReplyDeleteNow, let the hate mail flow...
Ironic isn't it?
He insults Lydia's charitable work in the lowest, possible most hateful way.
Calling her greedy, selfish, dragging her very character through the mud.
And THEN he says "let the hate mail flow".
ReplyDeleteTakes a lot of hubris to say that after starting "the flow" yourself.
Its that whole republican persecution complex thing. Like the "war on Christians", lol.
They start it, then cry about what they started.
Actually Worf, it goes much deeper than that.
ReplyDeleteYou don't really follow along well or look very far below the surface.
On a particular thread, which has been deleted for quite awhile it was Lydia herself who said she "couldn't understand why they didn't see her as a good person" when she was going through a rough time in her life.
That thread is still available in internet caches, but I'm not going to point it out to you now.
It goes deeper than just public charities.
It's like this tra la la, god is just love thing.
ReplyDeleteShe's smoothed over her problems by creating a false reality for herself.
I suppose that's fine for now, but reality has a way of coming crashing back.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't mean a damn thing.
Everyone wants people to see them as a good person.
No one wants people to see them as a bad person.
Except for bad people.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteYour own innate pettiness combined with your tin foil hat conspiracy theorist paranoid brain sees nothing but your own character traits which you project onto everyone else.
Clif tried to explain this to you years ago but like you said earlier.
Those who need help the most never want it.
Worf said:
ReplyDelete"Everyone wants people to see them as a good person."
Obviously,"John Wayne Gacy" said the same thing.
ReplyDelete"She's smoothed over her problems by creating a false reality for herself."
Damn,those blue pills!!!!!
Johnny said...
ReplyDeleteObviously,"John Wayne Gacy" said the same thing.
So.
He also probably drank a beer and breathed oxygen.
Does that mean you're John Wayne Gacy?
Everyone wants people to see them as good. Voltron and your attacks on Lydia's very core character is little more than projection.
You're petty, small minded people, ...by your own admission spiteful little men and you project your own shortcomings and character flaws onto others.
As Clif so accurately labeled you two, you are "Schadenfreude", ...those who derive their pleasure from the pain or suffering of others.
ReplyDeleteAnd to get that pleasure if you see someone positive or happy in any way, you inflict pain intentionally to cause distress, discomfort or other negativity so you can feed.
Peeling potatoes makes me white hot with anger.Wheres Lydia and all her sacrificial love when you need her?
ReplyDeleteIts actually the "Thanksgiving" long weekend up here today.
Instead of the traditional turkey,I'm cooking a sirloin roast beef which I place on top of the well spiced potatoes in the slow cooker. Today,I am stuffing the beef with jalapenos,green pepper,and the worlds hottest pepper which registers like 3 million on the Scofield level......my neighbour gave me a few!
I then top it with,onion garlic,black pepper,paprika,and a little oregano.....Mmmmmmmm!
When its done,just looking at it makes it fall apart.
Everyone is invited if they can make it?
There was a big news story here a few years ago about a guy who invited a homeless bum into his home on this festive day.
The bum hit the genuinely, kind,Samaritan,over the head and robbed his house.
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I had previously/seriously pondered such a kind act myself until I heard this story on the news.......now never!!!
High, powered, bummer mannnnnnn..........I forgot the red wine!!!
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Oh,I forgot to mention a large,package of fresh cut mushrooms as a topping.
ReplyDelete"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
ReplyDeleteWinston Churchill
The truth is to painful to confront, so better to just bury it with babbling twaddle.
ReplyDeleteActually, if I wanted to be mean, petty and spiteful I could have just linked to the cached thread and dissected it line by line.
ReplyDeleteIf my post was looked at with a bit of introspection it might have been seen as an attempt to help.
In my own humble opinion, her desire to be "seen" as a good person has cost her dearly in her life and at least one relationship.
Maybe, I shouldn't have posted that Churchill quote......Worf seems to be a little depressed right now!
ReplyDeleteDamn, those nasty red pills........always hard to swallow!
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Fans and Friends of Voltron said...
ReplyDeleteActually, if I wanted to be mean, petty and spiteful I could have just linked to the cached thread and dissected it line by line.
Nope.
Your calling her motives for doing charity work greed was pretty petty and spiteful all on its own.
Someday mook mook you'll give up your celluloid based fantasy world view,
ReplyDeletehowever there isn't a pill for that,
you have to do that all on your lonesome.
Taking pills to change the way you see the world is the problem you cannot grasp it seems.
ReplyDeleteCan somebody tell me why right wing republicans in Arkansas seem so 13th century?
ReplyDeleteArkansas Republican endorses death penalty for children
In his book “God’s Law: The Only Political Solution,” published in April, former Arkansas Department of Human Services attorney Charlie Fuqua explains that he supports killing wayward kids because that’s what a Bronze Age tribe did in his favorite religious text.
“The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline,” he wrote, http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2012/10/08/republican-candidate-fuqua-endorses-death-penalty-for-rebellious-children according to an excerpt published by The Arkansas Times. “Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellioius children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+21%3A18-21&version=KJV Deut 21:18-21.”
Interesting he is against abortion,
but AFTER birth if they step outa line
... watch out;
retroactively he is for it in a strange way it seems.
.... weirdest part was his former job;
Arkansas Department of Human Services attorney ... you know the people who are supposed to protect children from monsters like him.
Then there is this clown from Arkansas;
ReplyDeleteArkansas Republican: Slavery was ‘blessing in disguise’ that ‘rewarded’ blacks with U.S. citizenship
What is wrong with the extreme right wing they find this sorta hideous thinking acceptable?
Uhhhhh,Cliffy,your links only refresh the thread! This story is kinda hard to believe.
ReplyDeleteNope, that story was all over yahoo, aol. I read it too.
ReplyDeleteLink works for me.
ReplyDeleteThis story is kinda hard to believe.
ReplyDeleteMook Mook no belief (read trying desperately to deny the truth) needed;
... both quotes are from books they cretins wrote.
... so you can read them with your very own eye balls, no belief (IE desperate attempt at denial) necessary.
WHAT A FREAKIN' COWARD
ReplyDeleteRomney refuses to face kids on Nickelodeon after vow to defund Big Bird
hid out in France during Vietnam (a war he supported, but refused to put his arse on the line for ... like many many right wingers did {can you say chickenhawk})
and now he cannot even face kids after proposing cutting money for big bird.
what a freakin coward willard really is.
I wonder if Johnny realizes how transparent he is when he says things like "the links just refresh the page" while trying to seed doubt on a story that makes his beloved right wing look like what we all know they really are?
ReplyDeleteWorfy, check Clif's 3:10 post.
ReplyDeleteLinks 1, 4 and 5 lead right back to this page.
That's probably why he posted the next one.
ReplyDeleteOh, you mean the very next post on a totally different subject?
ReplyDeleteOK.
Arkansas Republican endorses death penalty for disobedient children
ReplyDeletelinky fixed for the mook mook and blog's resident genocidal maniac
PS the story didn't change even if the right wing genocidal maniac and his blog water carrier wanted it to.
ReplyDeleteSome stoopid republican teabaggin' wing nut running for office in Arkansas wants to MURDER children if they disobey their parents.
ReplyDeleteAnother calls slavery good for African Americans.
Even the Onion doesn't try this incredibly stoopid type of snark, but they might have to to keep ahead of right wing cognitive dissonance.
spin away dummytron
ReplyDeleteThat link is all over the net too.
ReplyDeleteHe obviously truncated the link accidentally when transposing it.
A quick google of the title of his link and you'd have been there.
http://www.examiner.com/article/republican-encourages-death-penalty-for-rebellious-children
ReplyDelete...how hard was that?
ReplyDeleteFunny thing is, that Old Testament the Conservative Christians are always thumping does call for putting a rebellious child to death...so....
Neither mook mook nor dummytron WANT to validate the truth of a republican running for office openly advocates murdering children for the horrendous crime of disobeying their parents.
ReplyDeleteremember the truth isn't their friend.
Otherwise they wouldn't try so hard to obfuscate the truth so much the last 6 years.
That and dummytron's open admission for mass murder based on religious preference. He probably wants to protyect a fellow sociopath.
ReplyDeleteGuess if you're gonna be stupid and wacky enough to think being a Christian means following the Law of Moses, ...might as well go all the way, huh?
Gotta admire his transparency. Not lighting his candle under a bushel, is he? lol
Hope they don't start advocating stoning adulterers, cause many many right wing republican politicos and their moneyed backers would fall victim to that one.
ReplyDeletethat and las vegas and wall street would both be condemned for worshipping money itself.
Damn following extreme right wing christian views might lead to the complete repudiation of most of the power behind the right wing republican machine
ReplyDelete......interesting.
remind me again why these people are in political bed together?
Oh right for power ......... they get from deceiving all the sheeple they can.
Oops that is also not OK if you get all old testament is it?????
Hubbard is obviously on crack.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I did find this comment quite interesting. Wonder if the Zyklon B thingy is true?
"The Southern Poverty Law Center better add this guy to the list.
He's not as crazy as you guys think though.
The Nazis learned a lot from us in terms of the way Jews were treated.
The U.S. first used Zyklon B on Mexicans crossing the border at El Paso, TX. It was observed by a German scientist and later praised and published in a German scholarly magazine.
Also they got the idea of putting the Jews in Ghettos from us. They copied the way we segregated Americas first people onto reservations.
Wonder if the Zyklon B thingy is true?
ReplyDeletea little research produced this mook mook;
From 1929 onwards the U.S. used Zyklon B to disinfect the freight trains and clothes of Mexican immigrants entering the US.
Farm Securities Administration photographer Marion Post Wolcott recorded the use of cyanide gas and Zyklon B by the Public Health Service at the New Orleans Quarantine Station during the 1930s
as a disinfectant, NOT to murder people;
Nice try at obfuscation but epic fail again by someone who cannot research anything effectively it seems.
The U.S. first used Zyklon B on Mexicans crossing the border at El Paso, TX.
ReplyDeleteNot true;
the US used Zyklon B on the clothes of the Mexicans, and IF you watched Schindlers List, the Nazi's forced the Jews to remove their clothing before using Zyklon B directly on them
totally different thingy except for someone trying to obfuscate the truth that a US right wing republican politician openly calls for murdering children for disobeying their parents.
still spreading your half baked disinfo mook mook
ReplyDeletethe truth be damned it seem eh?????
The truth on how the Nazis came to use ZyKlon B on humans;
ReplyDeleteIn early 1942, Zyklon B had emerged as the preferred extermination tool of the Nazi regime for both the Auschwitz-Birkenau and Majdanek extermination camps during the Holocaust.
The chemical claimed the lives of roughly 1.2 million people in these camps.
Rudolf Höss, commandant of Auschwitz, said that the use of Zyklon-B came about on the initiative of one of his subordinates, Captain Karl Fritzsch, who used the substance to kill some Russian POWs in late August 1941.
The experiment was repeated on more Russian POWs, with Höss watching, in September of the same year.
The emergence of Zyklon-B as the preferred chemical was a multi-stranded process
Hmmmm no Mexicans or USA border agents involved, but don't tell mook mook.
ReplyDeleteJohnny's Tin Foil cap must be leaking.
Uhhhh,Cliffy, a fellow American liberal wrote that comment.
ReplyDeleteBut, you did forget to mention that possibly tens of thousands of deaths occurred from those Mexicans whose clothes were fumigated with Zyklon B.........it absorbs through the skin!
No mook mook YOU tried to associate the use of Zyklon B as a disinfectant DIRECTLY with the Nazi mass murder program in concentration camps and got caught having no credibility on the issue,
ReplyDeleteQED
Now your spinning on the issue like most dishonest right wingers and their water carriers do when caught.
ReplyDeleteCat got your tongue,Cliffy?
ReplyDeletekeep spinning away, but the TRUTH is as follows;
ReplyDeleteSome stoopid republican teabaggin' wing nut running for office in Arkansas wants to MURDER children if they disobey their parents.
Another calls slavery good for African Americans.
All your slimy attempt at spreading obfuscation and spin be damned.
sorry but making up facts that YOU cannot substantiate as a strawman argument after you get caught making up facts to derail the thread from the fact,
ReplyDeleteSome stoopid republican teabaggin' wing nut running for office in Arkansas wants to MURDER children if they disobey their parents.
is udderly transparent.
nothing to say mook mook????????
ReplyDeleteCliffy,will probably deny that the Nazi's got the idea for their sterilization program from America too.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, I have to count sheep.
Toodles
Typical right wing response when caught
ReplyDeletecan not defend themselves
ReplyDeletewhen caught trying to derail the thread with their made up factiods
so they cut and run.
Johnny Spinzone said...
ReplyDeleteBut, you did forget to mention that possibly tens of thousands of deaths occurred from those Mexicans whose clothes were fumigated with Zyklon B.........it absorbs through the skin!
So you're comparing accidental indirect deaths caused by indirect contact with the agent to rounding up people and kids into shower stalls, sealing the doors and intentionally pumping it into the room?
wow
night night mook mook;
ReplyDeletehope yer dreams aren't as messed up as yer factoids usually are.
Yea, I'd run off saying I have to "count sheep" too, if I'd just said something that asinine.
ReplyDeleteTo Johnny, unintentional accidental deaths caused by indirect contact to a chemical agent, .....is the same as the Holocaust.
ReplyDeleteWanna know something interesting?
ReplyDeletemook mook just slimed the right wing predecessors of R-money and lyin Ryan even if he didn't intend to.
How you ask?????
Who was in charge of the Executive branch in when Zyklon B campaign began, and when sterilisation programs were rampant?????
Hint; Zyklon B came to El Paso in the 1920s.
In the U.S.A., the eugenicists rolled on to their great triumph, the Immigration Restriction Act of 1924.
By the 1930s, the eugenicists were mostly discredited, though many–particularly in the anti-immigration movement–remain true to those racists obsessions to this day.
IE early 1920's-1930????
Well Coolidge Harding and Hoover that is.
well well well mook mook discredits the ideological ansestors to R-money and lyin Ryan even if he didn't mean to .....
interesting
I would NEVER accuse the republicans between 1920 and 1932 of showing the nazis how to do it, but for some reason mook mook inadvertently does.
ReplyDeleteHe is slipping in his game of derailing the blog any time bad things to the right show up it seems. He just slimed the right wingers who are the ideological ancestors of today's teatards and big money GOP funders of teaching the Nazis much.
BTW mook mok if you wanted a relevant comment;
ReplyDeletethis is the one;
He is just like right wing Islamic extremists who promote honor killing of your daughter if she is seen with an uknown man.
there isn't very much different of killing children for disobedience and killing young women for shaming the family.
American Taliban is closer to the truth then people realise.
The clown in Arkansas never heard this part of the bible I guess;
ReplyDeleteSo when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
John 8:7
kinda removed that power from human hands doesn't it???????
R-money wants to kill Big bird and this nut wants to kill Children;
ReplyDeletewhat is wrong with GOPers in 2012??????
Oh yea the same thing wrong with them in 2003, circa Iraq
they LIKE to kill far too much.
"Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents."
ReplyDeleteCharlie Fuqua
Unbelievable,all that education to become a politician and this is the best solution that this barbaric moron can come up with?
If Hubbard is on crack then this guy must sniff high quality glue fumes ten times a day.
Does this idiot not see that respect is a two way street?
Man,talk about "cruel and unusual punishment." This is just as bad as Islam.
Amazing Johnny uses the opportunity to bash Muslims, when the truth is its not about "Christians and Muslims" but FUNDAMENTALIST EXTREMISTS on both sides.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes Johnny. The fundamentalist extremists on both sides, like the Tea Party Christians and the Taliban are bad.
ReplyDeleteVery very bad.
Yes Johnny, extreme right wing Christians in this country are just as bad as the extreme right wing of Islam.
ReplyDeleteThey both advocate the killing of those they disagree with or those who refuse to obey them ... like Voltron does with his convert or be killed idea.
Extremism is extremism, the religious dogma they claim to follow, in the acts they advocate or commit, is actually secondary.
Power over others is actually what they want and they are willing to commit atrocious acts in pursuit of their real goal.
Well said. The religion is little more than an "excuse" to exert control over others.
ReplyDeleteLest we forget how corrupt the GOP has been for decades;
ReplyDeleteOn Oct. 10, 1973, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew pleaded no contest to one count of federal income tax evasion and resigned his office.
The ONLY reason Nixon lasted as long as he did is the congress knew about Agnew's corruption and didn't want to have to impeach two right wing republican presidents in a row.
Corrupt right wing congressman like this slug;
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Screeches he is pro-life and family values after multiple affairs on his wife and coercing one of the women he cheated on his wife with to have an abortion to try to hide his lack of family values ... in real life that is.
Even the Onion doesn't try this level of insane snark, but they probably will start to keep up with the two faced teatards.
Pro life, until they need one.
ReplyDeleteTwo contracts ago I met the future Prime Minister of Canada. A first year student attending Ottawa university. Colin, is a real bookworm who is also a junior member of the liberal party.....he swears to become our country's future leader.
ReplyDeleteBased on his demeanor I believe he will become Prime minister.
I tested him on politcal philosophy, history, and global warming and for a nineteen year old he genuinely impressed me. Ive spoken to 4th year political science students who were nothing compared to him. I was surprised by his knowledge of Ann Coulter. Seriously, I could ask 10,000 Canadians who she is and not one of them would have a clue.
Occasionally,when I walked by,I would tease him & say "I don't think our future Prime Minister should be shoveling gravel.....lol!
Good kid........I wish him the best!
I'm almost done framing in this basement,Worf.Unlike others I actually use a level and square. My bulkheads are so strong that a 400lb fat guy could easily do chin-ups on them. Anyways,I told the homeowner about that"Top Coat" stuff and she agreed to buy it.......I,ll let you know what I think after I use it. Much of what I'm doing right now is being sound proofed.
Cool. I think you'll like it. The tricks getting used to the "feather sanding" after sanding the hard stuff.
ReplyDeletePut it on thin, sand it light and you'll like the dust factor a lot more. Watch the dust, I mean its still dust, it'll leave dust. But it drops straight down and is light, more powdery. Its thinner of course (more water) but a bit different. At least if the stuff you get up there is the same as down here.
I always go for the buckets. Its a little more expensive than the boxes of course but again easier to deal with. I hate seeing a guy standing there with mud all over him squeezing out the remainder of the bag into the bucket. If I added up all the time I paid workers to stand their transferring mud from a box to a bucket I'm sure it'd more than make up for the extra cost.
5 gallon bucket, plastic lids, easy clean up. Keeps your mud fresh the next day and less man hours handling it.
Wow...I feel like I'm part of your company now. "Worf, get to work!" lol.
Two contracts ago I met the future Prime Minister of Canada. A first year student attending Ottawa university. Colin, is a real bookworm who is also a junior member of the liberal party.....he swears to become our country's future leader.
ReplyDeleteBased on his demeanor I believe he will become Prime minister.
I tested him on politcal philosophy, history, and global warming and for a nineteen year old he genuinely impressed me. Ive spoken to 4th year political science students who were nothing compared to him. I was surprised by his knowledge of Ann Coulter. Seriously, I could ask 10,000 Canadians who she is and not one of them would have a clue.
Occasionally,when I walked by,I would tease him & say "I don't think our future Prime Minister should be shoveling gravel.....lol!
I think that's the first time I ever heard you really talk about your government up there, or the culture.
Interesting. So most people don't know who Coulter is huh?
Refreshing.
Unlike others I actually use a level and square
ReplyDeleteSo you're not really a drywall guy, you're more of what we call down here a general contractor.
You do finishing work. Inside framing. Drywall, probably do some baseboard and flooring too, right?
Down here you have to be licensed to be a general contractor. Do you have some sort of Canadian equivalent? (not checking your license status just curious if its the same up there).
I never had one so I stuck with sheetrock only in my business. But I grew up with a level and a square.
My first jobs were framing new houses. Did it for a little over 10 years hoping from contractor to contractor (went where the work was) before I woke up one morning and wanting to sink my 20oz straight claw into my forehead.
All I did was swing a 20 oz, driving 16 penny nails all day. That's back before the schmancy new nail guns.
Then I tried "historic carpentry" doing historic work. Tried painting houses for a summer but that was not fun. Finally started my sheetrock company.But framings clean work. I like it.
You know that "Historic" carpentry's a different thing. We had to use "cut nails" so they looked like the old fashioned flat nail. Know what we used? Yup, concrete nails, lol.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, soundproofing? Are you just putting in that Styrofoam insulation or putting in the big acoustic tiles?
ReplyDelete"Worf, get to work!"
ReplyDeleteYes,Worf,less talk and more work.If I catch you being tardy then I have no choice but to reduce you to coffee boy/gopher....lol!
"All I did was swing a 20 oz, driving 16 penny nails all day."
Powerful,powerful, bummer man!
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I am not a general contractor but often get led into that role. Although I do some electrical I do have an occasional plumber and electrician whom I pay well and profit from their hourly rate. I loathe plumbing and wont touch it.......irritating to the extreme!
I generally do the framing,boarding,plastering and trim and door installation.
A few months back I did a bathroom reno and installed one of these in an upscale home...... ours was far cooler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ON4Ee-FMw&feature=related
Difficult job as there was no sub-floor and me and my plumber wanted to kill each other as there was no room to work with all our tools. I did much electrical and occasionally helped with the plumbing which I insisted be PERFECT! Major wiring and plumbing modification. I was soooooo happy when I finally laid the sub-floor so I could finish off the rest of the bathroom. Anyway, the homeowner was very delighted with the finished product.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ON4Ee-FMw&feature=related
I soundproof walls/ceiling by insulating with "Roxul" insulation (very dense. I then install "resilient channel" on the framework and then two layers of board.
I will see if I can upload a pic soon. I just found out last night why my phone wont upload to my computer.
Actually I liked framing. New home constructions pretty straight forward, and those of us swinging a straight claw had easy, clean work. And swinging a 20 oz straight claw relieves lots of tension, ha ha.
ReplyDeleteKids today can't hit the head of a 16 penny with a laser site.
ReplyDeleteSo spoiled by those nail guns.
ReplyDeleteYou see it today when you hand a kid on the job a 20 oz straight claw and they choke up on handle and give it like 10 smacks to drive in one nail.
An experienced framer will grab the very bottom of the hammer with practically half of it hanging beyond his hand so it just rocks in the cradle, and with two swings drives a 16 penny home.
By the way Johnny, if you want to really learn something about the Tea party, watch "The billionaires party".
ReplyDeleteIts a documentary that shows the direct roots of the tea party not being "grass roots" but the Koch brothers and Big Oil, Big Insurance.
Its a real wake up call that exposes these mindless twits and fruitcakes as the biggest morons to walk the face of the planet, since the dark ages.
Actually its called "The Billionaires Tea Party". Watch it, then you'll see clearly.
ReplyDeleteWell well well the wingnuts have released MORE classified information abut the CIA in the middle east to the terrorists;
ReplyDeleteRepublicans Reveal Location Of Secret CIA Base During House Hearing On Libya Attacks
You would think outing a CIA agent working on non-proliferation activities against Iran would stop them, but Noooo;
The repubs will undermine the security of the USA if they can see a political advantage for it, after all they lied us into an unnecessary illegal immoral war for political advantage and milked it for years.
They are truly chicken-hawks in many many ways.
Great. This is starting to feel like we're living in an episode of Gilligan's Island.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I sometimes have my doubts about Atheism..........intelligent design!
ReplyDeleteHidden corporate agenda = "Evil Genius" = intelligent design = stupid ass sheeple.........LOL!
Doesn't surprise me.
The Koch brothers are just another couple of dangerously manipulative Jim Jones.
And,I'm a little stunned by the Tea Party's desire to abolish major government agencies......WOW!!
I would be terrified without the liberal party.......they prevent us from evolving into inhumane barbarians.
Freedom is good,but,like Agent Smith said:
"We're not here because we're free,we're here because we're not free."
I'm proud to be Canadian and boy am I ever glad we kicked your asses.....but good......200 years ago......LOL!
Good video,Worf............I learned much!
Moooooooooooooooo!!!
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ReplyDeleteHidden corporate agenda = "Evil Genius" = intelligent design = stupid ass sheeple.........LOL!
What are you Glenn Beck? lol
ReplyDeleteGood video,Worf............I learned much!
Hey, I'm just impressed you even took the time to watch it.
Well done Luke....."you've just taken your first step into a larger world"
I'm proud to be Canadian and boy am I ever glad we kicked your asses.....but good......200 years ago......LOL!
ReplyDeleteIs that what you guys tell yourselves up there? lol
Well, guess it's a good thing. Where else would we go for cheap medicine?
Can't trust that Mexican crap.
US pastor Terry Jones denied entry into Canada
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Associated Press – 16 hrs ago
TORONTO (AP) — A spokeswoman for
U.S. pastor Terry Jones said Thursday that Canada has denied entry to the preacher, whose congregation held a Quran burning in March 2011 that triggered deadly protests in Afghanistan.
Stephanie Sapp said fellow pastor and her husband Wayne Sapp, along with Jones, were turned back at the Michigan-Ontario border after being detained for several hours
Least you guys know a varmint when you smell one.
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ReplyDeletePersonally I've always admired Canadians. They're not braggarts (present company excepted) usually, and they have sort of what I call a "Quiet Cool" about them.
They seem comfortable in their skin and their heritage.
But don't you guys have some pretty big bears up there? I mean like "Kodiaks" or something?
And Grizzlies? Don't you guys have a lot of Grizzlies?
Man I'd be scared to death of that.
We have a lot of bears down here, but in the east just black bears. They're fine. A black bears like a big dog (unless one gets a hold of you of course). You can usually buffalo them just by being authoritarian. After all you stand bigger than the black bear.
But a grizzly or brown bear? Holy crap. Those things are like monsters from a movie. Nothing you can do but pray its not hungry.
ReplyDeleteI've been to Canada only once. I went to Niagara Falls of course. Ate at that flying saucer restaurant up on the needle or whatever that is. It turns.
I remember the food being very very bland. Wasn't a big selection that I liked so I had the "Ham" which came with corn and potatoes. Came with a dinner roll and that was about it.
The ham was very bland, no salt, and the potatoes were dry and bland. The corn had no butter on it.
I thought, wow....someone should tell the Canadians about seasoning.
"whose congregation held a Quran burning in March 2011 that triggered deadly protests in Afghanistan."
ReplyDeleteI fail to see the problem??? Jones did society a favour!!!!
I mean lets face it,would you not like to burn Charlie Fuqua's writings? Or,would you prefer that he spread his good word to the sheeple???
And,Worf,never go to a touristy attraction for pig-outs. Trust me,I could show you some EXCELLENT grub!!!
This Amaretto mixed with white rum,crushed ice, and strawberry shortcake ice-cream is the best.
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"And Grizzlies? Don't you guys have a lot of Grizzlies?"
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely,they rummage through my garbage,outside my igloo, every Wednesday morning......just kidding!
No,grizzly's are much further up north.
ReplyDeleteI fail to see the problem??? Jones did society a favour!!!!
Well fortunately the rest of your country isn't as warped as you.
Burning someones sacred religious object is what the Nazi's did.
NAZIS burn books.
Americans do not.
And that book burning COST PEOPLE THEIR LIVES.
ReplyDeleteThis little shit sits over here safe in his trailer park compound while Americans and others die because of his chest beating Nazi book burning stunt.
If you think doing people a favor is getting them killed, then please don't do me any favors.
And,Worf,never go to a touristy attraction for pig-outs
ReplyDeleteYea, I knew better. But it was so cool, way up in the air like that, turning slowly. How could I resist?
Figured the food had to be good.
It wasn't bad. I like ham. But seemed bland. And there was no salt on the table.
Absolutely,they rummage through my garbage,outside my igloo, every Wednesday morning......just kidding!
ReplyDeleteNo,grizzly's are much further up north.
That's good, grizzlies are scary.
I run into black bears all the time. The bigger ones can be pretty scary. They can easily kill you but fortunately they're pretty afraid of men. Women and children not so much though.
Of course if me and you were hiking in the woods and we cam across one I'd just spread peanut butter on your back pack and haul ass outta there.
"Burning someones sacred religious object is what the Nazi's did."
ReplyDeleteHowever,astonishingly,unintelligent, Worf, previously said:
"Well said. Religion is little more than an "excuse" to exert control over others."
I am FOREVER "THE ONE."
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Cant wait for, Worfs, pure 100% bullshit excuse to weasel out of this one.............pay very,very,close attention folks..LOL!
Obviously,the cat got your tongue,Worf.......LOL!
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Its not easy being #1.........everyone hates you!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd,if love is the answer, as Lydia suggests, then why didn't it save her marriage,prevent a lawsuit, and stop a stalker???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ReplyDeleteI will tell you why........it is an illusion for lost,desperate, souls wishing to escape the harsh reality of life......LOL!
Oooooops,better be careful,someones "OPINION" declares I am a narcissist.
ReplyDeleteMaybe, I should kick stones to keep them happy????
"Mess with the bull you get the horns."
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JMM,needs a REAL challenge.......any suggestions??
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ReplyDeleteWell the only weasel here is you.
ReplyDeleteEvery time I start to gain a little respect for you, you go and pull something slimy and weasely like this.
Here's your "quote" of me.
"Johnnymoomoo said...
"Well said. Religion is little more than an "excuse" to exert control over others." "
And here's what I ACTUALLY said...
Well said. The religion is little more than an "excuse" to exert control over others.
So what you did, was take my statement, EDIT OUT THE WORD "THE" in front of religion, and repost it, CHANGING THE MEANING from speaking about the religious EXTREMISTS and turning it into a general statement on all religion.
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ReplyDeleteTalk about weasels.
You just got caught intentionally editing my comment to change its meaning, literally lying and manufacturing a statement and then have the nerve to talk about me "weaseling" out of anything.
You just got BUSTED lying and cheating again.
Sometimes I wonder if I can believe anything you say.
ReplyDeletePuhhhhhhhhhhleeeeeeeeeeeesssssssse,Worf..............LOL!
ReplyDeleteLike,really,it took you an hour to think of that.........LOL!
ReplyDeleteWorfs,excuse is the word "the"......................LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd since the word "THE" was in the middle, there's no way you could have accidentally truncated it in the copy and paste.
ReplyDeleteYou would have to have manually edited out the word "THE".
We were talking about religious extremists and how they use religion to control their followers.
I agreed with you and said , "Well said. THE religion is little more than an "excuse" to exert control over others."
And now you weaselly turn around and edit out the word "THE" because you knew it would put the statement into the context it was written in.
Shame shame shame.
And no it didn't take me an hour to "think" of anything. I have other things to do besides blog.
ReplyDeleteI took one look at what you wrote, scrolled up to look at my actual comment because I knew I had worded it differently, and yup.
Sure enough.
Caught you lying again.
What's amazing is how comfortable you are being caught doing it.
ReplyDeleteIts like you are completely morally bankrupt or something.
I mean, most people would be ashamed of being caught doing such an underhanded thing.
Honestly I think you right wingers are born liars.
ReplyDeleteYou just lie and it doesn't seem to bother you a bit.
ReplyDelete"And no it didn't take me an hour to "think" of anything. I have other things to do besides blog."
I laughed so hard that even "Princess" pricked her ears.
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Here I catch you selectively editing out part of my comment to change its context, you're busted red handed.
ReplyDeleteAnd all you can do is dance around it.
You're busted dude.
Party over.
You intentionally took my statement, edited it, and then tried to pass it off as something it was not.
ReplyDeleteYou have no further argument at that very moment.
Get it?
ReplyDeleteYour credibility is shit. Done.
You have none.
ReplyDeleteAs soon as you get caught red handed changing my words to fit your right wing ideology, you lose.
Game over.
ReplyDelete......."Tilt".
OKAY.Worf,You COMFORTABLY,ignored this question??
ReplyDelete"I mean lets face it,would you not like to burn Charlie Fuqua's writings? Or,would you prefer that he spread his good word to the sheeple???"
Princess is waiting???
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ReplyDelete"As soon as you get caught red handed changing my words to fit your right wing ideology, you lose."
ReplyDeleteYeah. It ain't like you parse the hell out of anything someone else says to fit your left wing ideology...
Oh and Johnny? "The" was pretty important in that statement.
ReplyDeleteHe was referring to CHRISTIAN extremists. His group totally respects the Islamic extremists.
Isn't it funny how whenever Johnny paints himself into a corner and I call him on it, out comes the voltron character?
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Sort of like a sybil character, who comes out when the nice personality gets pressured.
And of course to change the subject to trying to get me to defend against his accusations that I'm a liberal even though he knows I'm not.
ReplyDeleteSo I won't even address the rube. He's just here because his pal (or alter ego) got cornered.
Johnnymoomoo said...
ReplyDeleteOKAY.Worf,You COMFORTABLY,ignored this question??
"I mean lets face it,would you not like to burn Charlie Fuqua's writings? Or,would you prefer that he spread his good word to the sheeple???"
Come on, you actually think I'm "afraid" of that question and need to dodge it?
I just don't see how you get off asking me questions when you just got caught red handed EDITING, ...CHANGING my comment, to fit YOUR context.
ReplyDeleteAnd no, I wouldn't burn ANYONES books.
That's part of being an American.
And as far as burning the Quran goes, You or I may find what the man did distasteful, we DO have a thing in this country called "free speech".
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure he didn't burn the last copy or anything, so he probably didn't eliminate the last trace of the bible of a death cult.
And I feel bad for those who died because of this mans actions, but really, are we going to have our freedom of speech rights dictated by unhinged assholes who live in foreign countries? Do we all just shut up because we might offend some camel jockey in Bumfuck Egypt?
Oooh that reminds me. It's supposed to be cold this winter. I need to lay in a supply of Quran's for the fireplace.
(they make good kindling...)
And if you honestly believe you're an "independent", you're more ignorant than I give you credit for...
ReplyDeleteAs usual voltron in his interminable defense of the indefensible pretends to counter an argument that was never made.
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ReplyDeleteNo ones saying that he couldn't burn one.
Only that he shouldn't.