Please forgive the delay in posting the guest blogger. Have an emergency this week, and it will have to wait until next week. I know I have been strangely quiet regarding Ann Coulter, but we have our reasons. More will be revealed. Whatever happened to the MONROE DOCTRINE and the GENEVA CONVENTION?? Meanwhile, I would like your input on our troops in Iraq. I met a Westpoint graduate Friday night, who served with the elite Rangers serving a few years ago in Afghanistan, and he confided something he found suspicious. READ MORE BELOW...
L to R: Ex-CIA agent LARRY, DOUG BASHAM and AMBASSADOR JOE WILSON (Valerie Plame's husband) at Basham's Progressive Talk fundraiser in Vegas, which honored Spc. Douglas Barber, who took his life earlier this year. He had PTSD. The military trains our soldiers, but does not prepare them for the aftermath of war. God Rest his soul. Basham is the best interviewer I've ever had. He is amazingly generous, quick-witted, knows everything, and he's "tight" too. "Tight:" that's the annoying new word for "cool" according to my 12-year-old. 
Before 911, this elite Ranger and his unit were asked to clear a huge Airforce landing strip in Afghanistan, but did not know the location they were in. So they cleared the landing strip. RIGHT BEFORE 911 happened. Strange, eh? Also, does anyone know the status of the soldier who refused to go to Iraq? Is he being court martialed? I think his defense should be this: he signed on to defend America before he discovered that Bush lied about the reason for going to war. At this point, his Commander-in-Chief turns out to be a liar; our troops are suffering from PTSD and committing crimes comparable to the My Lai massacre.
VEGAS Pix of Bloggers: Lyd, RENE, Destiny; MIKE, Lyd; Lyd with Jack Benny & George Burns in photo at 50th anniversary of Riviera gallery
Had a great time in Vegas with the incredible Doug Basham and his PROGRESSIVE TALK show. Got to meet Jack Carter, Jimmy Carter's son, who is running for Congress. Ambassador Joe Wilson and ex-Cia agent Larry J. were at Basham's radio fundraiser for his Progressive Talk station. Basham is one of the best voices for the progressive cause IN AMERICA!! Also met some wonderful people at the fundraiser at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
Daily KOS, THINK PROGRESS AND ESCHATON were at the Riviera having the Yearly Kos convention.
TO REPEAT:
IT IS VITAL TO keep in mind that if, instead of siding with Hitler, the Christians of Germany - who represented some 96% of the population - had joined with the Jews, handicaps, homosexuals and the "Liberals", there would have been no war and no holocaust! But Hitler responded: "I have the churches in my back pocket." He then proceeded to arrange for the Nazi government to pay for the support of the clergy, their churches and their schools, so long as they didn't get in his way. That is just one of the many reasons why so few of the Christian clergy dared to speak out against Hitler, no matter how heinous his policies became! (From www.LiberalslikeChrist.org)
Love the Einstein quote. Tell us all about your show in Vegas.
ReplyDeleteDo you have a DVD of your comedy?
Max
Personally, I love how some Republican operatives were allowed to take the machines home the night before the election to keep them secure.
ReplyDeleteCan't the frikkin' government afford one stinkin' security guard?
Mike
ReplyDeleteCarl has indicated that he wouldnt mind/care checking out Uranus as long as Lydia were to be there.
How do you feel about this?
Would you explore the outer reaches of Uranus with them if given the opportunity?
I guess you would need a fast rocket ship though.
I know Jack Carter will do exceptionally well in politics.
ReplyDeleteAfter all, his brilliant papa Jimmy was by far the finest Democrat President the U.S. has ever had. I remember the gas lines, stagflation, rabid rabbits, U.S. hostages parading on TV, the "malaise" speech. Ah those were the good ol days.
Then that damned Ronnie Reagan went and ruined everything.
Hey thanks Voltaire.
ReplyDeleteI had a steak at Ruth's Chris once, but was not impressed. The beef is top notch, but they fry it in a pan, they don't grill it over coals. Also very overpriced; everything is a la carte. Besides steaks are so easy; I'd much rather grill my own -- over mesquite charcoal and slathered in fresh garlic and cracked peppercorns...served with a glass of dry red Petite Sirah.
Went to a Greek restaurant tonite. Their dolmas were almost as good as my own, but not quite.
TT said "Back when there were only three TV stations and no Internet, talk radio or Fox News, it used to be so easy for the MSM to destroy reputations -- Joe McCarthy, Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon, Robert Bork, Dan Quayle, Oliver North, Clarence Thomas, Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich, Paula Jones and Linda Tripp, to name a few of the MSM's prey.
ReplyDeleteOh, the civility of having only three TV stations back in our parents' day! It was even more civil in the Soviet Union where there was only one TV station.
Ah, the civility of the old media! Sadly for the MSM, the Silent Majority is silent no more."
Funny TT that with ONLY 3 tv stations back in the day the MSM was much more fair and balanced instead of a tool of the RightWingnuts to deceive and influence the weak minded.
Also Funny how you seem to relate to Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon, two people this administration seems to have patterned themselves after with their McCarthy like fear tactics and penchant for illegal spying.
Now as for your portraying your people as victims I guess you are trying to say freedom of speech is not a good thing and these people should be beyond attack from dissenters, funny though your girl Ann Coulter seems to disagree, she seems to think anyone is fair game for personal attacks and slander whether she can support her lies and drivel or not, wonder if she got her line that the widows of 9/11 are happy their husbands are dead from the Psychic Friends Network Huh Troll Texan???
And as for your reference to the silent majority, the voices of dissent aka "the silent majority" has never been more silent my friend, all while you psudo patriotic hyppocrites claim to support freedom of speech and say that no one is above speaking out against or attacking personally, yet you paint anyone who disagrees with the president or Neo Con agenda as an unpatriotic traitor.
Freedom Fan said...
ReplyDeleteI remember the gas lines, stagflation, rabid rabbits, U.S. hostages parading on TV, the "malaise" speech.
Oh, so this differs from 2006...how again?
I guess the difference is Bush didnt make a malaise speech, he's not as honest as Carter.
ReplyDeleteAnother difference, is we didnt have videos of terrorists like Osama televised regularly in Carters day or televised beheadings by terrorists either, but since you seem to blame Jimmy Carter for everything that was wrong in the world at that time, I guess its ok to blame Bush and assume that you view these attrocities as his fault as well right FF ????????
ReplyDeleteAt U.S. Naval War College, Scholar Likens Iraq to Plague
ReplyDeleteFILE UNDER: Iraq, Politics, Culture
If anyone asks you why this is a great country, tell them this story.
Yesterday the Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island, opened its annual conference on international strategy with a speech from the Navy Secretary in a vast hall, followed by a panel on American power composed of three scholars, all of whom had opposed the war in Iraq. Indeed, in the biographical notes that were given out to the audience of officers—men and women wearing their dress whites—one of the scholars stated bluntly that he had written about the "folly of invading Iraq."
For an hour the panelists gave their reasons for why they believe America will remain the most powerful country in the world well into this century, regardless of the morass in Iraq. There were about ten questions. The last one was from a Navy commander named Cladgett from Syracuse, who rose in the middle of the audience.
"My question to the panel is, What is the path to success in Iraq?"
There was a damburst of laughter in the audience, then the scholars took it on, one by one. The first, Stephen Walt of Harvard, said "This was a huge strategic blunder, there are no attractive plans forward." The greatest danger—an international conflict in Iraq—would be there no matter when we left. The next man, Robert Art of Brandeis, said, he thought it was extremely important for America's image in the Arab world not to have permanent bases in Iraq.
The last one to speak was the one who had used the word "folly" in the program: John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago. Mearsheimer is 58. He told the audience that when he was a teenager, he had enlisted in the Army. Then he'd spent 1966-1970 at West Point. Then he said this:
I remember once in English class we read Albert Camus's book The Plague. I didn't know what The Plague was about or why we were reading it. But afterwards the instructor explained to us that The Plague was being read because of the Vietnam War. What Camus was saying in The Plague was that the plague came and went of its own accord. All sorts of minions ran around trying to deal with the plague, and they operated under the illusion that they could affect the plague one way or another. But the plague operated on its own schedule. That is what we were told was going on in Vietnam. Every time I look at the situation in Iraq today, I think of Vietnam, and I think of The Plague, and I just don't think there's very much we can do at this point. It is just out of our hands. There are forces that we don't have control over that are at play, and will determine the outcome of this one. I understand that's very hard for Americans to understand, because Americans believe that they can shape the world in their interests.
But I learned during the Vietnam years when I was a kid at West Point, that there are some things in the world that you just don't control, and I think that's where we're at in Iraq.
The panel was over. For a moment or two there was stunned silence, and then applause—at once polite, sustained and thunderous.
http://mondoweiss.observer.com/2006/06/at-us-naval-war-college-scholar-likens-iraq-to-plague.html
Much more informative than Mann the Nazi...and actually has some factual content
Clif, you been on vacation or something?????
ReplyDeleteMike said...
ReplyDeleteI guess the difference is Bush didnt make a malaise speech, he's not as honest as Carter.
"Amerka's addected t' oil."
Sure sounded like a malaise speech to me and I think I even mentioned that on my blog the day after the SOTU speech.
Carl sounds like a retarded fag.
ReplyDeleteProbably some gay hick with nothing better to do than to talk his stupid mindless garbage!
Carl, do you "HOOK" in with guy's...LOL. I know for damn sure you're not married to a woman!
ReplyDeleteBush Raises Threshold for Firing Aides In Leak Probe
ReplyDeleteBy Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, July 19, 2005; Page A01
President Bush said yesterday that he will fire anyone in the administration found to have committed a crime in the leaking of a CIA operative's name, creating a higher threshold than he did one year ago for holding aides accountable in the unmasking of Valerie Plame.
After originally saying anyone involved in leaking the name of the covert CIA operative would be fired, Bush told reporters: "If somebody committed a crime, they will no longer work in my administration."
This is a small, but potentially very significant, distinction, because details that have emerged from the leak investigation over the past week show that Karl Rove, Bush's top political aide, and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, discussed Plame with reporters before her name was revealed to the public. It is unclear whether either man committed a crime, according to lawyers familiar with the case.
Democrats pounced on Bush's comments to accuse him of trying to shield White House aides from future punishment.
"This is about the credibility of the president of the United States," said Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.). "He said he would fire anyone who was involved in leaking this sensitive information. Now, he's changing his tune."
Reid and other Democrats said that even if administration aides did not violate the law, they should lose their security clearances -- if not their jobs -- for trafficking in information about a CIA operative.
How many times has Bush lied to or mislead the American people now, it getting too high for people like anonyfool to count, afterall he only has a limited amount of fingers and toes, its actually insulting to our intelligence that, that halfwit thinks all the stupid sheep are too dumb to remember what he said a few months ago. He said he would Fire ANYONE in his administration that leaked info, now its anyone that committed a crime, funny though that it would be kind of difficult to fire himself and his sidekick "Dead Eye Dick" and his buddy KKKArl etc... not to mention inconvienient.
ReplyDeleteHere's may take though, the lame duck administration made a calculated decision to save their strategist Rove so he could help out with the fall elections but will throw Cheney under the bus as the sacrificial lamb, I say Cheney will either resign or possibly go down for the leaking of Plame's identity.
Anonypussy
ReplyDeleteCarl likes chix....period!!
His joke to visit this comically named planet with a certain female indicates, quite clearly, that he loves chix.
Mike, I guess you would like to go back to the bad old days where you couldn't express your opinions on nationally read and Liberal blogs like Think Progress, DailyKos, Huffington Post, etc.
ReplyDeleteOh, yeah, there's that other one with about 10 unique visitors (mostly drooling mouth breathers) per day started by a costar of an 80s sitcom who had a run in with the bestselling author of the day.
The "Larry J" that Lydia refers to is Larry Johnson, a very disgruntled former member of US intelligence who wrote a nice little paper in July of 2001 that suggested the risk of terrorism is low. So much for his credibility.
Hey, Mike, when have I ever suggested that we abridge anyone's First Amendment rights. The Jersey Girls have there opnion, and no shortage of outlets for them, and Ann Coulter has her opinion. Fifteen years ago, where would you have gone, Mike, to rebut such an opinion?
Lydia
ReplyDeleteI request to hear your version of where to draw the fine line on pornographic material that is appropriate for everyone. What is your suggestion to make the trains run on time regarding this issue?
"Everybody wants to rule the world."
"Tears for Fears"
Also, young teenage boys have a natural curiousity. Denying them that curiousity may cause untold emotional damage and could actually reinforce sexual deviance if not properly guided.
Im not wrong!
If you do not respond, I understand how you have been influenced........God's much too self important and superior too listen to the little guy.
Apparently, He's busy....excuses, excuses!!
Ever notice spiritual people always make excuses for negligence?
God is negligent....period!!
LOL!
:D
P.S
Remember the rabbit hole is bottomless when answering.
You really think Carl likes chix?
ReplyDeleteWell then it must be true....NOT
The post at 3:39 was not mine. TT
ReplyDeleteLydia said
ReplyDelete"Covers politics, spiritual therapy comedy, prayer miracles, bridging the gap between faith"
Hopefully, not just your version of the indicated above said items......unless, of course, your offended by others opinions thus proving my point true peace is impossible.
If offended, this obviously allow's me to conclude there is no spiritual God as mankind is truly incapable of getting along based on our emotional responses to others.
Ahhhh........the comfort of illusion!
TT said " Mike, I guess you would like to go back to the bad old days where you couldn't express your opinions on nationally read and Liberal blogs like Think Progress, DailyKos, Huffington Post, etc."
ReplyDeleteThose so called "bad old days" you refer to Troll Texan are in your own fantasyland, in the past the MSM was fair and balanced instead of a tool of the Right Wingnuts to deceive and influence the masses, see freedom of speech is one thing but portraying a lunatic like coulter as an intelligent and credible political pundit is laughable, how can you take someone seriously that says "a supreme court judge should be poisoned" or that "Liberals should be executed" or that "the widows of 9/11 are glad their husbands are dead", see TT i'm not saying she doesnt have a right to say this riddiculous drivel but what I am saying is the only reason the is portrayed as a intelligent and credible political pundit and given such a vast quantity of air time is because the "Big Money" Powers That Be" that now control the MSM are bankrolling her. see if she is saying that kind of garbage then it is impossible to take her seriously, and if she is a comdian and just being funny then she shouldnt get any more air time or respect then any other political comedians.
Wheres the special guest blogger? Lydia, it seems, just love's toying with our brains.
ReplyDeleteNot even an indication......baloney?
I'm still waiting for examples of miracles in her life?
Wonder why Mikes pics havent appeared yet? Maybe hes not important enough?
And in light of the "RightWingnut Powers that Be" bankrolling Coulter, I seriously wonder if she didn't get some "HELP" in becoming a bestsellung author, I mean it wouldnt be that hard for a Moon or Scaife to buy up a whole bunch of her books to "make" her a bestselling author now would it????
ReplyDeleteMike writes: "what I am saying is the only reason the is portrayed as a intelligent and credible political pundit..."
ReplyDeleteDon't kid yourself. Her comments are highly controversial, but controversy sells, for better or worse.
My point is that you seem to be longing for the days when you could make your opinion known only to those people at the barbor shop or the local bar.
Now, with just a few keystrokes, your opnion can be made known to readers of blogs worldwide. The MSM has lost its monopoly on the forming of opnion. The Internet has been the great leveler, and yet you bemoan the current state of political discourse.
Never before in your life have you had more ways to get your opinion out.
Your pulling a bait and switch again TT, I am all for Freedom of Speech, and I fully support the Internet and other various alternative media for diseminating and communicating information, it the the MSM being controlled by the Right Wing that concerns me.
ReplyDeleteIt seems at this point in time blogs and the internet are the lefts main outlet to get their voice and opinions heard ouside of the filtered info of the MSM.
sounds like we are somewhat in agreement regarding censorship and freedom of speech TT.
Metaphysics: Suffering is positive....there are no limits to the infinite, enjoyable learning experience of suffering!
ReplyDeleteIts against the law to be human and tired in God's wacky world; there's so much purpose/goodness in suffering that honor is virtually an illusion!
Unbelievable.....LOL!
Self imposed brainwashing always tickles my tummy.
Politics! The endless search into the unanswerable and infinite disagreeable!
ReplyDeleteQuite simply, a pretend for human compassion that is really a quest for power.
Ever since blogging was invented everyones a humanitarian, however, I see little evidence of this in the real world?
ReplyDeleteI see nothing but a stuggle for power....driving alone proves this!
LOL
Its always quiet when you speak the truth!!
ReplyDeletePlease, invent excuses to enlighten me and avoid the real truth!
Humans are best at manufacturing....period!!
I do, however, accept this and am proud of myself for not breaking down and seeking illusions during my most difficult moment.
Unlike others, who believe fantasy will save them from a harsh environment.
Neo: What truth?
ReplyDeleteMorpheus: You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more.
Lydia's belief there are only two choices in life - "Love or Fear" shows how limited her thinking is.
ReplyDeleteFF and Volt were the only one's to catch on to this comical, self imposed, limited approach on life....this is why I respect them.
Maybe I'm a conservative at heart and dont know it?
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ReplyDeleteJohnny said "Wheres the special guest blogger? Lydia, it seems, just love's toying with our brains.
ReplyDeleteNot even an indication......baloney?
I'm still waiting for examples of miracles in her life?
Wonder why Mikes pics havent appeared yet? Maybe hes not important enough?"
LOL, leave me out of this one Johnny, I allready saw my pics, i'm not really concerned what she does with them, unless she posts the one where I have my eyes closed and I look silly, I dont blame you though for wanting to see them, I would as well if you had gone to the show and taken pics seriously though Lydias's been working night and day on the Book(s) and has been away from her family for two out of the last three weeks, I think she deserves a little R&R with her family. :D
Its only a number!
ReplyDeleteWhite House Press Secretary Tony Snow, gave the official Bush response today to the announcement that 2500 US soldiers have died in Iraq, by saying " its only a number".
I guess that is part of the "Compassionate Conservative" philosophy, that 2500 soldiers and their families, whose lives have been destroyed is "its only a number".
Johnny said "Lydia's belief there are only two choices in life - "Love or Fear" shows how limited her thinking is.
ReplyDeleteFF and Volt were the only one's to catch on to this comical, self imposed, limited approach on life....this is why I respect them.
Maybe I'm a conservative at heart and dont know it?"
johnny I think your taking her words too literally and maybe looking at the letter of what she wrote instead of the spirit.
If I remember right I dont think there was an "ONLY" in her quote, see I dont think Lydia see's the world in Black and White Johnny, what I think she said is "life is a constant choice between love or fear", and I think what she was refering to was a broader concept something like fear leads to hate, war and death, while love leads to peace and goodness. obviously Lydia is aware that humans are capable of experiencing a wider range of emotions than just love and fear, but her point was we have freewill and have a choice between choosing the path of love, goodness and peace or the path of fear, hatred, war and death.
Furthermore I think she was directly refering to the Neo Con's use of fear tactics to support their war and global agenda that not only inspire hatred on our side but also inspire hatred of us among muslims arabs and even former allies and serves to aid the terrorists in recruiting and attracting more terrorists and has involved us in a quagmire we cant win, where like the mythological hydra for every terrorist/insurgent and worse innocent civilian we kill there are 3 more to take his place who hate us and want to do us harm. whereas if we focused on spreading goodwill and love and genuinely tried to help these people instead of merely furthering our own agenda and best interests as well as focused on domestic security like securing our borders and ports instead of waging war on the other side of the world to gain a foothold over the oil supply our country would be far safer.
Now regarding whose side you think is more credible Johnny, let me ask you this, and i'd really like to hear your answers, if you had to distill Lydia's and Ann Coulters message down to one thought, soundbyte or sentence, what would it be???
Here's my summary of what I feel their message would be:
Lydia: " be kind to others and follow the golden rule and treat others the way you would want to be treated"
Coulter " if you don't like the message kill the messenger"
which side do you think sounds more reasonable and credible Johnny??????
Johnny said "I do, however, accept this and am proud of myself for not breaking down and seeking illusions during my most difficult moment.
ReplyDeleteUnlike others, who believe fantasy will save them from a harsh environment."
Johnny how do you know the spiritualism that Lydia as well as Clif believe in and say got them through rough times times are illusions?
They both said there are no clear and absolute answers and that unlike the dogma of religion that spiritualism is different for everyone and that their experiences are theirs and may not apply to you, however in most cases whether it is science or spiritual enlightment you need to believe and have faith but at the very least be open minded and accepting to get the answers and understanding that you seek. Just think if Man never believed we could go to the moon or never believed that the world was round, if no believed we had a chance to go to the moon, it never would have happened, and if no one believed it was possible the world was round, everyone would still mistakenly think it was flat.
I sense you are very philosophical and questioning and somewhat skeptical and those arent bad qualities as you are not easily deceived or misled by the MSM, I also get the sense that because you are an atheist and dont believe in god or religion that you are a little turned off to some of Lydia's words like "God is Love" etc.. and are focused more on the words than the broader message, and are not looking at what she is saying with an open mind.
Dont get me wrong, while i'm not an atheist, like you, I am not a fan of main stream religion as it is currently practiced by the majority of people, I think far more evil and dammage have been done by religion than good and that it is a means to power and wealth by eliteists with self serving agendas, instead of a means for actually helping people.
As for spiritualism, I have never experienced miracles through it or relied on it to get me through horrible times, however I am very open minded about spirtualism and feel that just as with many of our myths, mythology,legends, paranormal, near death experiences etc... there has to be some truth to many of these experiences and phenomena.
Also although I hate to generalize and use stereotypes i'm going to do it in this instance, in general I think women are more spiritual than men, and although as I said before I've never had any miracles or am not as sprirtually enlightened as Lydia or even Clif, I think for a guy I am pretty spiritually enlightened and definately have a spiritual side and would like to learn more from Lydia's book and experiences.
Something that comes to mind is How Lydia said that people never die that they are always with us, I remember my mother saying something similar when her mother (my grandmother died) they were closer than any mother and daughter I have ever known, more like friends and when she died and my father had a stroke at the same time and needed care, I thought for sure my mother would suffer from severe depression, but I think her spriritual belief that people dont just fade into nothingness when they die, but rather stay in our hearts helped get her through the terrible ordeal, she told me many times she sensed my grandmothers pressence and although I have never experienced this myself I have an open mind and accept that this very well could be true, but if you dont believe it will never be true.
I guess what i'm saying is how do you know if something is fantasy and illusion or true if you dont look at it with an open mind and give it a fair chance??
...I've never had any miracles or am not sprirtually enlightened as...Clif...
ReplyDelete-Mike
Absolutely. Few of us are as spiritually enlightened as Clif; he is an inspiration for us all. Clif is correct to point out that Christian fundamentalists are just as dangerous as Islamic fundamentalists.
True, Islamic fundamentalists worship an ancient highwayman who robbed and killed many hundreds of innocent merchants then enslaved their women as sex toys, married a little nine year old girl, ordered hits on pesky opponents to be murdered in the middle of the night, and requires death or taxation of all those who refuse to believe in Allah.
But what about Jesus; is he really any better? Recall his rage when he flipped over the sellers' tables in the temple? What about when he cast demons into pigs which then ran off a clif? What about his followers who murder innocent abortion doctors -- a practice which we all know is encouraged by the Pope and all major religious leaders?
As Clif has shown, Christians are no better than Muslims. In fact, all organized religion is suspect. Can't a person be spiritual without participating in organized religion?
What about the cannibals in New Guinea who worship trees? What about Darryl Hannah and other Liberal women with boy's names who sit in trees? Are we supposed to believe that they are any less spiritual than Billy Graham? Don't make me laff.
I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth's sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
-Joyce Kilmer
That is so beautiful! It is enough to make anyone start worshipping trees.
Which is why I have ordered one of these:
Beaver Tree
FF said "But what about Jesus; is he really any better? Recall his rage when he flipped over the sellers' tables in the temple? What about when he cast demons into pigs which then ran off a clif? What about his followers who murder innocent abortion doctors -- a practice which we all know is encouraged by the Pope and all major religious leaders?
ReplyDeleteAs Clif has shown, Christians are no better than Muslims. In fact, all organized religion is suspect. Can't a person be spiritual without participating in organized religion?"
FF if you had taken the time to actually read my posts you would see that I am in agreement that all organized religion is suspect, and that a person does NOT need to participate in the dogma of organized religion to be spiritual.
Furthermore I dont think true followers of the real message Jesus was trying to get across would support killing abortion doctors, thats the fanatical hippocrites who claim they are pro life but yet advocate killing and murder and most of those people are alligned with the Religious Right, I posted about this very topic a few months ago FF as an abortion doctor was murdered in my home town about 7 years ago and the sniper that murdered him stood in my uncles backyard, so I have witnessed this hippocritical fanaticism first hand.
Also why do conservatives always take things to the absurd, maybe Christian fundamentalists arent AS dangerous as Islamic fundamentalists, but I hold my own people to a higher standard than a bunch of crazy radical terrorists beheading and murdering innocents for their own self serving agenda and so should you FF, the argument that you support them because they arent AS bad as the islamic fundamentalists/terrorists, is weak.
ReplyDeleteCarl said ""Amerka's addected t' oil."
ReplyDeleteSure sounded like a malaise speech to me and I think I even mentioned that on my blog the day after the SOTU speech."
Maybe Carl, I guess that one is open to interpretation, but the way I saw it, it was CYA and Bush was trying to cover his ass, he didnt want his critics to be able to say he didnt warn us that our dependence on oil was a problem or portray him as in bed with the big oil companies so he paid lipservice to the problem and proposed a few weak or pie in the sky solutions that were way in the future and that him and his administration wouldnt be accountable for.
See Bush is like a sixteen yearold accountability is a dirty word and foreign concept to them.
And FF, while the pope and other religious leaders dont openly support killing abortion doctors, they should be forcefully condeming it, and any so called pro-life, priest or so called religious person who considers it justifiable hommiside and considers it acceptable.
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ReplyDeleteTroll Texan said "Hey, Mike, when have I ever suggested that we abridge anyone's First Amendment rights. The Jersey Girls have there opnion, and no shortage of outlets for them, and Ann Coulter has her opinion. Fifteen years ago, where would you have gone, Mike, to rebut such an opinion?"
ReplyDeleteTroll Texan if you cant tell the difference between someone expressing their opinion or rebutting another's argument and a personal attack, then you need serious help my friend.
See if Coulter had said something like i think they are wrong based on these facts...... and here is why my argument is superior and I am right .... followed by more facts to support argument then it would have been a rebuttal. But Coulter clearly attacked them personally by saying they are glad their husbands are dead, with no facts to support or back up her weak riddiculous argument.
Mike I have made a trip to Conroe Texas, and just got back..
ReplyDeleteAs far as why do reichwingnuts take everything to illogical extremes...it is the insecure 16 year old child they never habve fully evolved from...it makes them attempt to over compensate...usually through money and material assests which they can show off to others with,,, instead of trying for personal spiritual developement..... which can not be easily shown to others .... if you have it you usually do not care if others see your spiritual side or not...it is enough to have a spiritual life and leave the keeping up with the wingnuts for others.....
Later..I'm going to spend the weekend with the munchkin...(she does not like that term)
Yo, Freedom Fawn,
ReplyDeleteMore people have died in the name of Christ in wars than have even LIVED in the name of Allah and Muhammad.
You compare Muhammad, a human and a prophet, with my Jesus, a deity.
A better comparison might be to, say, Moses. Now, let's see you defend a man who beat his brethren to death with a staff, shall we?
And mind you, not too many Jews started world wars, so your argument on that lines is, well, as so many things you spew, bullshit.
Oh, and Anonymous?
ReplyDeleteI'm just as much man as Ann Coulter...
Funny how when l'il Freedom Fawn was gone, so was Annoymouse...
More people have died in the name of Christ in wars than have even LIVED in the name of Allah and Muhammad.
ReplyDelete-Carl
Linky please genius, unless you are merely "spewing bullshit"? Oh and good luck finding over 1.5 billion victims who died "in the name of Christ". LOL.
You compare Muhammad, a human and a prophet, with my Jesus, a deity. A better comparison might be to, say, Moses.
-Carl
Here's a little test, Carl baby:
Make a movie about Moses, like say the Ten Commandments with Chas Heston. How many Jews will riot? Answer zip...nada...dumb question eh?
Make a movie about God or Jesus; there have proly been well over 100. How many Christians will riot? You already know the answer: Zippo.
Now just try making a movie about Big Mo; I'll even help you publicize this wonderful event by contacting CAIR on your behalf. Can you name even one movie about Muhammad? Would the spineless smarmy Hollywood types even dare?
Ok simply draw a picture of Mo and put it on the internet with your name and address, or draw his likeness in a cartoon in a Danish newspaper. Same question. What happens? Very bad thing happen.
So what's the big deal if he was merely a prophet, not a diety to Muslims? The fact is that Allah is actually the alter-ego of Muhammad. It is really Muhammad that Muslims worship. This can easily be established by reading the quran and noting where the references to Him (Allah) and me (Muhammad) are used interchangeably. These can not be dismissed as mistakes because the quran is considered to be literally perfect by Muslims.
So Muhammad is a diety to Muslims at least as much as Jesus represents a diety to Christians.
Hey Troll Texan check this out, apparently your boy Rove doesnt sipport freedom of speech and doesnt feel blogs or the Internet should be used to communicate and convey opinions.....at least for the left, see he knows the Reich Wing controls the MSM and would prefer if the opposition had no voice at all to challenge his rhetoric, oh yeah and he characterizes anyone who doesnt agree or speaks out as "out of the mainstream" radical far left wing. here's the post Troll Texan:
ReplyDeleteKarl Rove attacks the blogosphere. “The Internet for the Left…has served as a way to mobilize hate and anger — hate and anger, first and foremost, at this President and Conservatives, but then also at people within their own party whom they consider to be less than completely loyal to this very narrow, very out-of-the-mainstream, very far Left-wing ideology that they tend to represent.” June 16, 2006 2:37 pm | Comment (213)
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Just posted some photos of Rene and Mike on the blog. More coming of others.
ReplyDeleteFreedom Fan said: "It is really Muhammad that Muslims worship. This can easily be established by reading the quran and noting where the references to Him (Allah) and me (Muhammad) are used interchangeably. These can not be dismissed as mistakes because the quran is considered to be literally perfect by Muslims."
ReplyDeleteSO MUSLIMS AND FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM: they "worship the letter over the spirit" (dogma and ritual over love.) Christ told us to not bother with rituals and religiosity. He didn't want us to WORSHIP him; he wanted us to abide in love for one another. He didn't want us to focus on his personality or "Jesusness." The one thing that upset him was overly religious people who put letter and law over spirit. The Golden rule is the only thing that mattered to jesus, and the religious fundamentalists of today have completely missed Christ's point.
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE GET THIS, the ONLY THING CHRIST CARED ABOUT OR THOUGHT WAS VITALLY IMPORTANT?
and by the way, we are all sons of God. That's what we are supposed to do: express the same Christlike Godliness Jesus expressed. "And these signs shall follow those who believe: they shall lay hands on the sick and raise the dead." Jesus wanted us to know we are all supposed to do the same miracles he did.
ReplyDeleteWe are not separate. Sin is separation from God.
John: "And is it not written ye are all Gods? (part of God?)
Most our problems in life (sin) and inability to heal or forgive, or not fight or walk the way Christ walked -- stem from believing we are separate; believing in duality, thinking God is outside of ourselves. Jesus was humble and said the kingdgom is within us. Not outside us.
SO MUSLIMS AND FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM: they "worship the letter over the spirit" (dogma and ritual over love.) … The one thing that upset him was overly religious people who put letter and law over spirit. The Golden rule is the only thing that mattered to Jesus…
ReplyDelete-Lydia Cornell
Precisely right. But what Liberals miss by always focusing on similarities and moral equivalence, is that Islam is fundamentally -- at its very core --different from Christianity and all other major religions:
Islam does not recognize or encourage following the Golden Rule! (A challenge: Please try to prove me wrong using just one quote from the quran.)
Islam is entirely about following exactly what Muhammad did down to the last mundane detail of daily existence; and Muhammad set the worst possible example of how to live.
Fortunately the vast majority of Muslims are good people – just bad Muslims. But in dar al-Islam, bad Muslims are forced to become good Muslims or die.
Bad Christians become the life of the party.
Mike
ReplyDeleteNO WAY....... thats not you!!
I envisioned you to look like the guy in the fat chick, chicken dance video...LOL!
I'm a little stunned right now because I cant believe your a real human being; I feel a little ashamed for all the mean things I ever said.
I did read your posts.
I do, 100%, believe in a "general" kind of civilty and peace for all mankind. I also believe life is somewhat spiritual, however, not to the point where we sacrifice our emotional well being by placing blind faith in fantasy.
I have met many unbalanced individuals who were absolutely convinced God/Jesus would solve all their life's miseries with His all powerful love, thus taking little initiative/responsibility to find strentgh within themselves to face the harsh realities of life; I am convinced this leads to extreme neurotic behavior......some are complete cukoo's. LOL
And when God fails to show up and
aid their pitiful existence, they always invent comical excuses for His negligence.
Im just saying we as humans should trust, persevere, and find strength within ourselves before placing faith in to good to be true illusions.
I am my own best psychologist and truly know in my heart there is only one person who will guide/help me through this journey called life......myself!
Also, love is a much too complicated and indescribable an emotion to simply classify as the answer to eternal bliss......love also brings conflict and pain and is no match for controversy.
As for hope and faith, I believe these are EXCELLENT qualities everyone should embrace furiously. However, I suggest there are limits.....period!
You really should see the movie "Donnie Darko."
Voltaire said
ReplyDelete"Unlike Worf, Clif and Mike,
There IS hope for you yet Johnny.
Just turn off "Groundhog Day" and take the red pill this time...."
Thanx Volt, but Im a moderate at heart! Both sides make valid, impressive points.
Sometimes we have to operate from strength and sometimes its necessary to stay frosty and chill out.
Depends on the circumstance or situation.
Besides, conservatives up here just banned smoking on a outdoor patio if the umbrella is up..lol? :|
FF
ReplyDeleteI was completely unprepared for your spiritual tree.
LOL
:D
Overly patriotic people can become too nationalistic and chauvinistic, which is just another word for ME-ME-ME-ism or of course, NAZISM...
ReplyDeleteFREEDOM FAN - I just looked at your beaver tree. That is pretty funny.
ReplyDeleteWorfeus and Johnny Moo Moo -- do you want me to post the photos I have of you? Or do you want to remain anonymous?
FF - please send me a photo of yourself, and Voltaire.
Carl too.Congrats Carl on the big news!!
What about the rest of the world?
ReplyDeleteDid it not know the intentions
of the Third Reich?
Did it not hear the words
of Hitler's broadcasts all over the world?
Did it not read his intentions
in Mein Kampf...
published in every corner of the world?
Where is the responsibility
of the Soviet Union...
who signed in the pact with Hitler...
enabling him to make war?
Are we now to find Russia guilty?
Where is the responsibility of the Vatican...
who signed in the concordat
with Hitler...
giving him his first tremendous prestige?
Are we now to find the Vatican guilty?
Where is the responsibility
of the world leader Winston Churchill...
who said in an open letter
to the London Times:
"Were England to suffer a national disaster, I should pray to God...
"to send a man of the strength of mind and will of an Adolf Hitler."
Are we now to find Winston Churchill guilty?
Where is the responsibility
of those American industrialists...
who helped Hitler to rebuild his armaments, and profited by that rebuilding?
Are we now to find
the American industrialists guilty?
No, Your Honor.
Germany alone is not guilty.
The whole world is as responsible for Hitler as Germany.
It is an easy thing
to condemn one man in the dock.
It's easy to condemn the German people...
to speak of the basic flaw
in the German character...
that allowed Hitler to rise to power, but also...
comfortably ignore
the basic flaw of character...
that made the Russians sign pacts with him,
Winston Churchill praise him...
American industrialists profit by him.
Judgment at Nuremberg
1961
Lyd
ReplyDeleteIf Worf allows his pic to be posted, then you can post the first pic of me by my truck and the graduate one of Miss moo moo.
BTW, love your blue dress.
Also, I occasionally think of the late Douglas Barber.....cheers to Doug Basham!
http://www.dougbasham.com/12-16-05DouglasBarber.mp3
Voltaire said "Although less programmatically hostile to Christianity as such than was the Soviet Union, and far less hostile to Christianity than to Judaism, which the Nazis sought to exterminate in the Holocaust throughout the Third Reich and lands that came under Nazi rule, Nazi totalitarianism demanded that all religious activity conform to the desires of Nazi leadership. Although an attempt by Alfred Rosenberg to restore an "Aryan" paganism came to no fruition except in some inner circles of the party and the SS, Christian churches were obliged to accept the racist doctrines of Nazism. The Gestapo monitored Christian clergy and congregations for any semblance of dissent with Nazi policies, and many Christian clergy and laymen ended up in concentration camps when they asserted opposition to the teachings and practices of Nazism or if they acted upon pacifist convictions (like many Jehovah's Witnesses and some Confessing Church members)."
ReplyDeleteUse your head Voltaire, she is talking about early in the game during Hitler's rise to power, before he seized ultimate power and could have any one who spoke out or opposed him killed or imprisoned at will. It takes a long time to develop[ something like the SS and seize the kind of ultimate power to have people killed and imprisoned like he did and Lydia is absolutely right, if the Christians had opposed him early in the game chances are he wouldnted have gained that ultimate power, thats why you need to be extremely careful when you see a bunch of powermad megalomaniacs running your country because its basically speak up and oppose them early in the game before they seize total power where they can have their enemies and political opponents imprisoned or killed and its too late.
Johnny said "If Worf allows his pic to be posted, then you can post the first pic of me by my truck and the graduate one of Miss moo moo."
ReplyDeleteWorf sent Lydia his picture, LOL, now that one blows me out of the water, you guys gotta let her post them, even though you didnt make it to vegas.
BTW Johnny, that was a good post and very interesting, and your right there is enough blame for Hitler and the Nazi's to go around, but that doesnt make what Lyd and liberalslikechrist.com said wrong, see the German people saw the signs of what was happening MUCH earlier than the rest of the world, and if they had opposed him early in the game, instead of either supporting him or looking the other way, before he seized the kind of ultimate power required to imprison, torture or kill anyone who spoke out and/or opposed him, he may never have gained that type of power and the Holocaust and WW2 may never have happened.
Mike said
ReplyDelete"see the German people saw the signs of what was happening MUCH earlier than the rest of the world,"
Mike.....Puhlezzzzzzzzzzzze!
Think harder!!
The REAL POWER does not come from ordinary simple peasents; they can easily be manipulated.
The "Treaty of Versailles" (allied punishment)pretty much guaranteed Hitlers rise to power.....simple folk may have supported Elmer Fudd into power to escape the suffering of harsh allied punishment.
The world is responsible for his rise to power.....especially those with influence and power!
Also, Hitler really wasnt voted into power by the people; although his party was the largest, he was appointed Chancellor by a reluctant President Hindenburg in 1933.
Hitler loathed communism and their banning of religion.
ReplyDeleteWhen the German army invaded Russia, many Ukranian town officials, feeling liberated, approached Wehrmacht officers asking if they could go to church and pray.....they were cheerfully allowed!
Flavius Worfeus said
ReplyDelete"The Swastika itself was merely a bent cross,"
From what I remember its an old Chinese symbol or something with no relevance to religion...I could be wrong though.
"DELIVERANCE"
ReplyDeleteMountain Man: Now, let's you just drop them pants.
Bobby: Drop?
Mountain Man: Just take 'em right off.
Bobby: I-I mean, what's this all about?
Toothless Man: Don't say anything, just do it.
Mountain Man: Just drop 'em, boy. (To Ed - at knifepoint) You ever had your b---s cut off, you f--kin' ape? Looky there, that's sharp. Bet it would shave a hair.
Toothless Man: Why don't you try it and see? (To Bobby) Take off that little ol' bitty shirt there, too. (To Mountain Man) Did he bleed?
Mountain Man: He bled. (To Bobby) Them panties. Take 'em off. (After attacking him) Hey boy, you look just like a hog....(Holding Bobby's nose as he straddles him from behind) Come on piggy, give me a ride...Looks like we got us a sow here, instead of a boar....I bet you can squeal like a pig.
Bobby: Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Notice the stark similarities between Hitler's rise to power and Bush and the Republicans rise using the " Religious Right"?
ReplyDeleteNotice how few of the " Religious Right" are spewing their Bush propaganda since the country is falling apart?
Are the "Religious Right" really supporting the Bush agenda since the country is in the toilet, or are they keeping their propaganda down in fear that their congregations, that has believed their promoting Bush and the Republicans all these years, have finally seen the truth?
Aren't their a lot of similarities in Bush and Hitler's rise to power?
If the normal churchgoers had resisted the propaganda of the "Religious Right", we wouldn't be stuck with Bush and the Republican majority.
Article 24 of the party program demanded:
ReplyDelete" Liberty for all religious denominations in the State so far as they are not a danger to the moral feelings of the German race."
William L Shirer
Hitler challenged Christianity for failing to recognize the racial problem.
He was greatly influenced by Hegel, Fichte, Nietzsche, and Wagner.
" Im gripped by a great sadness-as when one strips the Christmas tree of its ornaments."
ReplyDeleteAdolph Hitler
Day after Bayreuth Festival
Unlike Stalin, Hitler didnt ban religion, he basically wanted religious groups to see his point of view.
Nevertheless, Voltaires qoutes are excellent in showing Hitlers charged emotions and troubled state of mind from the stress of war.... Hitler changed his policies more often than I change my underwear....
ReplyDeleteI was the one who brought up the Concordat first Worf, which of course Hitler broke days later.
ReplyDeleteAs for "Gott Mitt Uns", thats a chapter in what you know is my bible......The Forgotten Soldier!
And yes, someone did try to prove Jesus was Aryan, but it wasnt Hitler.
Not easy blogging while trying to watch Sean Penn in the movie "The Interpreter."
Worfeus said "Hitler did indeed try to "shape" Christianity, much like the Conservative Repulicans are doing today.
ReplyDeleteAnd only right wing fools dispute it, trying to draw attention away from the myriad of striking similarities between the rise of the Bush regime, and the Rise of the Hilter regime."
Excellent posts Worf, and like i've said many times before the similarities are chilling to people with their eyes and minds open enough to see what is really going on. In fact the right wingnuts who would dispute the comparison are either completely deluded and ignorant of what is actually going on,or afraid to take off the rose colored glasses and see what our country has become as a result of their leader's corrupt megalomaniac policies and poor leadership or are partisen hacks punch drunk on their party's koolaid and supposed omnipotence and determined to deceive the masses with their poisonous rhetoric, fear tactics,patriotic bravado and war wongering.
Worf
ReplyDeleteDo you mean "Mein Kampf" the book Hitler himself dismissed in front of Speer years later....LOL!
Worf reads Mein Kampf and thinks he knows everything.
Worfues said "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East.
ReplyDeleteIf you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them"
George W Bush"
yikes the thought of God talking to GWB has me contemplating becoming an atheist LOL :D
seriously though doesnt that unnerve you or make you uneasy that we have a leader claiming god is telling him what to do and justifying his actions(gee Ann Coulter hates people with unassailable positions speaking out politically, wonder if ann the hippocrite has a problem with people hiding behind god to justify their political views???), even worse god is telling him to wage war preemptively without considering the senseless loss of life and weakening of our military and economy, wonder if god is telling him to nuke other countries pre-emptively now, or thats just his own delusions of grandeur.... or maybe its not god talking to Bush, maybe that schzizo is such a certifiable wacco he actually hears voices telling him what to do, schzizophenia usually sets in any time after the age of 30 I believe.
Worf said "Bush is scary, but the fools who downplay him, dismiss him, or follow him, are even scarier.
ReplyDeleteBecause its they who keep him in power."
Agreed!
Everything unnerves Flavius.......hes sooooooooo smart, except I find it odd he denounces violence but has little tolerance for trolls whos balls he wants to shove down their throat....LOL
ReplyDeleteYou know, i'm probably going to take some flack for this, but I found it seriously unnerving and kinda scarry when voltaire said he was for exterminating close to 2 billion muslims if they did not convert to Christianity and agree to be "deprogrammed" (which is really a kinder gentler word for torture)
ReplyDeleteNow we have had some good conversations and I don't think Voltaire is completely evil or irredeemable, but its just kind of hard for me to get past someone argueing for the genocide of almost 2 billion people like it is nothing, and just think if thats how mainstream republicans really think, I wonder what the hardline pro war Neo Cons or the radical religious right really think about this?????
Speak of the devil, so Voltaire, did I start WW3 by bringing up old wounds???
ReplyDeleteOk Worf, Ill say it again:
ReplyDeletePolitics and religion dont mix and I oppose the war in Iraq.
Happy?
Like as if we havent had conversations before agreeing on this topic.
Voltaire, You said "kill their leaders, and kill the ones who refuse to convert to Christianity and be "deprogrammed", now with close to 2 billion Muslims in the world in a great many countries, i'm kinda curious as to how you would choose to go about this logistically?, I mean should we basically start invading all the non Christian countries in Asia and Africa then build concentration camps to either "deprogram" and convert the ones who agree and exterminate the ones who don't, a pretty ambitious undertaking for close to 1/3 of the worlds population, or is your thinking what most republicans would consider more practical and less ambitious, more along the lines of only invading, conquoring and building concentration camps to "deprogram" or exterminate those countries with LOTS of oil and natural gas, just curious???????
ReplyDeleteLydia has the quotes of what you said saved somewhere, in fact our little exchange made her main blog, I know exactly what you said and i'm sure a great many other people remember it as well.
ReplyDeleteVoltair before you advocate attemting to "deprogram" almost 2 billion people against their will...and"ass kicking" them first, as a former military officer I for one would suggest you to check out the historical perspective of tyhose who have tried that before...ie the British after WW1 in Iraq...they "cut and ran" back to england ...anbd The USSR in afghanistan hint they were defeated by some of the same people we fight now....and these people are usinfg the same tactics against us...AND THIS YEAR...YEAR 4..the fighting is intensifying..getting worse...we are flying more bombing missions in Afghganistan that Iraq...think about that
ReplyDeleteU.S. Airstrikes Rise In Afghanistan as Fighting Intensifies
In Response to More Aggressive Taliban, Attacks Are Double Those in Iraq War
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/17/AR2006061700784.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/
content/article/2006/06/17/AR2006061700784.html
both campaigns were poorly planned...and it shows, and now both are falling apartgiven that it took eight years for the Afghan rebels to defeat the USSR the fact that they still have the stomache for a fight 4 years into this war leaves me not feeling good for our prospects for defeating them unless we want to do things that would have made himmler and hitler proud
Voltaire said...
ReplyDeleteSo I guess all the christians just said "yeah whatever, Go Hitler!"???
I still think the threat of death or torture held some sway there don't you?
NBot in 1929...till about 1935...by then Hitler held absolute power and he could threaten death...but if he had been stood up to in say 1932 or 33 he would have not gotten away with all he did...sort of like standing up to the neo-con christofascists today
Clif said "I still think the threat of death or torture held some sway there don't you?
ReplyDeleteNBot in 1929...till about 1935...by then Hitler held absolute power and he could threaten death...but if he had been stood up to in say 1932 or 33 he would have not gotten away with all he did...sort of like standing up to the neo-con christofascists today"
great post Clif, i've said the same thing basically about 4 times in the current thread, in fact i've been saying that for about 6 months now.
Worf said
ReplyDelete"And everytime I clobber you in a debate"
What debate Flavius? I simply pointed out the world was responsible for Hitlers rise to power and you ignored this extremely important FACT!!!
You blow and suck extra hard.
And you EAGERLY attempted to discredit me because I failed to instantly define Got Mitt Uns for Volt.
Gimmee a break!
Your ego has a ferocious apetite...LOL
I qouted Article 24 and you didnt like it.....period! You were attempting to look smarter than me with your ongoing googling......LOL!
I dont google!
Also, your overemphasizing Hitler being a christian......BIG TIME!
Ok Worf the googler, tell us all which one of Hitlers warped buddies tried to prove Jesus was Aryan?
And what about the worlds responsibility? You seem to be ignoring this?
WTH happened to your hair Voltaire?
ReplyDeleteLOL
Johnny Pork Pie moo moo said...
ReplyDeleteWTH happened to your hair Voltaire?
LOL
He hacked into Ann Coulters X rated website and saw her with out the clothes or makeup
What about the worlds responsibility genius?
ReplyDeleteJohnny said "And what about the worlds responsibility? You seem to be ignoring this?"
ReplyDeleteJohnny I agree with you that the world had a responsibility, but that was later, when he started murdering people and invading other nations, not while he was attempting to seize power in Germany, the world wasnt their to see first hand to see his tactics for seizing power, it was the German people's responsibility to stop him early in the game before it was too late, he wasnt killing and imprisoning people early in the game that was when he seized ultimate power and no one dared oppose him or speak out, see if people would have spoke out and opposed him early and not looked the other way, or taken his bribes or told them selves that he's not that bad he's just protecting us from a common enemy trying to oppress us, the Holocaust and WW2 may never have happened.
see its this "we are all fighting a common enemy crap" and this phony nationalistic patriotic BS where anyone who speaks out or dissents is unpatriotic and in league with the enemy that leads to attrocies like the hollocaust, I mean think about it people like Hitler never admit they are evil, they always claim to have fair motives and to be protecting the nation and looking out for the common good, see when dictators like Hitler seize power part of the nation is benfitting from their policies bribes etc, another part is deceived by their propaganda until it is too late and still another group does not believe how far these evil people will go to further their cause and implement their agenda until it is too late. and then once it is too late the majority of the nation is too afraid to take any type of action because the dictator has their power network and infrastructure fully developed to maintain ultimate power and can basically do as they please.
see Hitler just like Bush advocated pre-emptive war, which is the sign of a madman and fool, even if Europe didnt like his rhetoric or policies and was suspicious of him, they couldnt attack him pre-emptively, they did what most good people or countries would do, they waited till he did something wrong before they attemped to deal with him.
My 4:37 and 5:04 pm posts clearly show I was in disagreement with Volts 2:59 pm post.
ReplyDeleteFake, violent, Worf loves manufacturing! Hes the one everyone should keep an eye on?????
"I qouted Article 24 and you didnt like it.....period! You were attempting to look smarter than me with your ongoing googling......LOL!"
Go fly a kite Worf!
And yes Johnny, your probably right Europe and the rest of the world should have acted sooner, but most people arent gung ho to rush into war and have thousands or even millions of deaths on their hands if war can be avoided by diplomacy. notice I said most people, as it is fairly obvious that GWB and Adolph Hitler are not like most world leaders or most normal people.
ReplyDeleteWhy does Bush and the Republicans insinuate that if you are not of their political beliefs that you are not a believer in Christ?
ReplyDeleteWhy does a "professed" believer as Bush says he is, launch personal attacks on those who oppose his policies?
Isn't it the same as Pat Robertson wanting foreign leaders killed, and Hitler destroying those whose beliefs were different than his agenda?
Who would Bush and the Republicans use for their own political gain, if the average churchgoers turn away from the "Religious Right", because they have led them down the path of economic destruction?
Maybe the Cult movement would give Bush and the Republicans something to embrace and use to gain them power.
As the average middle-class believer turns away from Religious figures like Falwell and Dobson, because of their Bush hugging ways, Bush and the Republicans will move away from the "Religious Right".
What Johnny is getting at I think is the fact that many off the reight wing capitalists who screamed about the communist-socialist menace after the crash of 1929 aided Hitler in his rise to power...funding him with money and get5ting governments to give him the benifit of the doubt.,,..some even held to him...like Bush's granddad, even after the war started.
ReplyDeleteThe same tactics of mass terror that was used against the communists back then by Hitler are being used by the neo-cons against the muslims today
Mike
ReplyDeleteBetter read my 12:00 pm post again. Your neglecting to take into account The Treaty of Versailles.
But I do agree with your point....always have.
When the congregations stop giving their money to these churches who push the Republican agenda from the pulpits, what else will the "Religious Right" do but to shut up.
ReplyDeleteFalwell and Dobson are in it for themselves and when their congregation dollar dwindle, so will their love for Republicans.
Thousands of jobs are being lost each week under the "Bush Economy" and many of those jobs, belong to either church members or someone in their families.
Why would they continue to listen to "Religious Figures" who have promised them, they will benefit from the Republican way.
How "Compassionate" will those conservatives be when the "Religious Right" can't deliver their money and votes?
Hello........My name is Bible Boy Worfeus..Im Fake! I pretend to care about humanity. I love installing scrotums into peoples mouths who piss me off.
ReplyDeleteTake care
P.S
Wanna be friends?
Worf:
ReplyDeleteMaybe Joel Osteen was saying don't criticize Murtha and those who want to end this worthless war.
At least I hope that is what he meant.
YUK YUK.......LOL!
ReplyDelete:D
Im toast
TTFN
He was on Larry King before and said he didn't talk politics, that he doesn't think that is his place to do so, but he encourages his congregation to pray before they vote.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what he meant on his sermon today, but at least he doesn't spend half his service slamming Democrats and the other half asking for money like Falwell.
ReplyDeleteJoel Osteen is usually trying to build people up instead of making them feel worthless and alone like most of the TV preachers.
ReplyDeleteHopefully today will be his last political statement.
No Johnny, the The Treaty of Versaille was a contributing factor or catalyst to his rise to power, just as was the hyperinflation of 1923 to pay back their war debts with worthless money, both of those served to destroy the middle class and the poor and created the misery and social unrest that served as a distraction to some and as a rallying call to others who bought into his rhetoric to take back what was theirs and end the oppression as well as protecting the country and keeping them safe.
ReplyDeleteits really not that different from today, only today things are happening in a different order and with different circumstances, see with us the war happened first and we have similar propaganda keep our nation safe, protect our people, fight them over there instead of over here, we havent reached hyperinflation yet, but with the deficit and the war and social security its inevitable as its political suicide for any politician or political party to cut social programs, entitlements ect.. so they will eventually choose to inflate the debts away like germany did and destroy the poor and middle class.
see for the nazi's the cause was the treaty of Versaille and the hyperinflation of 1923 I believe, for us it was 9/11 so far, but the rhetoric, propaganda and power grabbing tactics are amazingly similar. I hate to say it but I remain suspicious as 9/11 was the best thing that ever could have happened to the Bush administration, it allowed them to implement their agenda and basically do whatever they wanted unchecked and unchallenged, the way they hit the ground running with their self serving agenda IMMEDIATELY after 9/11 was like it had been planned and reheared for years, something I find both scary and disturbing.
The sad thing is most preachers on TV are not spiritual but use the term religion for their own goals.
ReplyDeleteThere are very few, that do not ask for money throughout their time on TV, instead of trusting it will come.
Mike:
ReplyDeleteTony Snow was making his little propaganda rounds today attacking the media for focusing on the 2 missing soldiers.
Being concerned about missing US soldiers must be unpatriotic.
The Bushites who profess their religious leanings, forget the teachings of Christ.
ReplyDeleteThey forget Christ taught peace and forgiveness and not war -mongering, even though Bush says a higher power told him to start his own war.
I guess the Tri-Lateral Commission is Bush's higher power.
Yeah Larry, I heard Snow the past few days, him and his assclown buddies have really been ratcheting up the rhetoric, they are thumping their chests like a bunch of frat boys or like king kong because they got Zarquari, mean while Osama the guy who attacked us is still out there.
ReplyDeleteBTW, did you here Rove attacking left wing blogs and bloggers I went over to TP Friday because it was so quiet in here and I wondered where everyone was, and I saw the thread and reposted Rove's comments on this thread.
Worf:
ReplyDeleteWhich Fuhrer is that referring to, Hitler or Bush.
If it is Bush then the quote had to be from Falwell.
Um okay, I'm pretty sure that Hitler, a card-carrying member of Jerry Falwell's Christian religious right-wing, was on a justified Crusade to murder all the Jews because the Jews killed Christ, who was also a Jew but they didn't believe he was really a Jew, and Jesus told Hitler in a dream to build the gas chambers and snuff little Jewish women and children, and George Dubya is exactly like Hitler because Dubya once mentioned Christ but Dubya believes in murdering all the Muslims who also hate all Jews and only the ACLU can save us now.
ReplyDelete/channelling mush-headed left-wing-nut jobs here, on Air-Head Amerikka radio, and just about frikkin everywhere...spit.
Mike said
ReplyDelete"No Johnny, the The Treaty of Versaille was a contributing factor or catalyst to his rise to power,
Thats exactly what Im saying Mike yet you say: "No Johnny"
???
"just as was the hyperinflation of 1923 to pay back their war debts with worthless money, both of those served to destroy the middle class and the poor"
The hyperinflation of 1923 was a direct cause of the treaty. Germany simply could not afford the reparation payments.
The Treaty of Versailles allowed Hitlers small party to slowly, yet steadily, gain momemtum as he promised to give the German people back their honor and escape from suffering.
See Mike, if you were standing in line at a soup kitchen a mile long and someone came along and promised you a job, dignity, and hope, would you listen, or continue to stand in the soup line?
When Hitler assumed power he was extremely weak militarily and broke the treaty under the threat of being invaded by the allies.......the allies did nothing!
"It's easy to condemn the German people...
to speak of the basic flaw
in the German character...
that allowed Hitler to rise to power, but also...
comfortably ignore
the basic flaw of character...
that made the Russians sign pacts with him,
Winston Churchill praise him...
American industrialists profit by him.
And the Vatican sign a Concordat with him....
Everyone starts to look like you Voltaire after blogging on Lydia's site for awhile.
ReplyDeletePerhaps a few sessions with several of my therapists will return you to the calm, smoking skeleton you used to be?
But I do suggest you get a haircut....LOL
Johnny said "Mike said
ReplyDelete"No Johnny, the The Treaty of Versaille was a contributing factor or catalyst to his rise to power,
Thats exactly what Im saying Mike yet you say: "No Johnny"
???"
Johnny I agree with you that the Treaty of Versaille played a big role in Hitler's rise to power,in fact it was probably the inintial catalyst that started and enabled his rise to power, however that does not excuse the German people from failing to see the warning signs and there were many.
Sure Hitler promised the German people jobs, an end to poverty and suffering, their dignity etc... just as the Bush Admin has promised to keep us safe and protect us from terrorists, create jobs etc... and sure the masses are easily deceived but thats no excuse, we have to start looking at our leaders actions and not their words.
There were plenty of warning signs in Germany, just as there are in the USA today, when ever you see your government attempting to marry the church and state, using excessive nationalism, hiding behind patriotism by labeling dissenters as unpatriotic, rallying the people around a common cause and common enemy and a war that is supposedly for the public or common good, as well as one branch of government changing laws and ceaselessly grabbing more and more power all in the name of the public good or keeping the country safe as well as controling the media and filtering information to the masses and revising history, you need to question your goverment and its motives and be afraid. see the sad part is most of the people in Germany as well as the people in the USA today never in a million years believe their country could be transformed from something so good to something so evil, they refuse to see the signs and the transformation happens so slowly and insideously that by the time the masses realize what their country has become and realize that when they look in the mirror they see a monster, it is too late too do anything about it.
No the Treaty of Veraille may have been the root cause and an enabler and catalyst for Hitler and the Nazi's but but the Majority of blame rests on the German people, those that went along with Hitler for political and financial gain, as well as to a lesser extent those deceived by him and those that saw the warning signs but ignored them or didnt speak out because they never envisioned their country could be transformed into something so evil by a few evil men that they would resort to the genocide of entire races and the murder and death of tens of millions of people. Few would believe their own countries can be turned into instrumments of evil like that, thats why it is so important to be vigilant and heed the warning signs, so it NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN, or anything even remotely similar.
Yea, you guys are right FF. Volt.
ReplyDeleteThey weren't Christians.
-Worf
And now his all time favorite post/re-post, right after Abu Graib atrocities:
"Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy, the Jews.
The work that Christ started but could not finish, I, Adolf Hitler, will conclude."
-Worf (post #207, the new argumentum ad nausem record)
Okay I'm convinced. Hitler was not really a megalomanic trying to take over the world by fabricating lies in order to manipulate people into dying for him and exterminating their innocent neighbors.
He was really a Republican doing the Lord's work like Pat Robertson, just trying to remake the world in Christ's image. This is why he had everyone shouting "Heil Christ" all the time. Everyone knows this.
/Do any liberals anywhere have IQs exceeding that of ice cubes?
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ReplyDeleteits tough for you guys to look in the mirror isnt it FF, by the way if and when you guys do look in the mirror do you see a monster looking back or do you guys have no reflection at all????
ReplyDeleteJohnny said "See Mike, if you were standing in line at a soup kitchen a mile long and someone came along and promised you a job, dignity, and hope, would you listen, or continue to stand in the soup line?"
ReplyDeleteI would probably ask him what his plan was to create jobs, dignity and hope, see like I said before I dont listen to people's (particularly politician's ) words, I look at their actions, that is why I am never taken in by snake oil salesmen.
see what bothers me is these phony patriots who never tire of labeling people who question or disagree with the war in IRAQ and GWB's rhetoric and failed policies as "unpatriotic" but never stop to think that a TRUE PATRIOT WOULD NEVER EVEN CONSIDER SACRIFICING OUR FREEDOMS IN ORDER TO KEEP US SAFE, GWB, should be ashamed to even suggest such a thing, I always thougt true patriots would say "give me liberty or give me death" not "take any of my constitutional freedoms and liberties you want mr Bush just protect me and keep me safe"
See its obvious Bush is using the fear of terorism to seize power and implement his own personal agenda otherwise he would have focused on capturing Osama (the guy who attacked us a long time ago, as well as securing our borders and ports instead of wasting our resources by waging war in a country that had NOTHING to do with the terrorists who attacked us. But even if Bush was sincere about protecting us it just shows what an incompetent 2 dimensional thinker he is that his solution to dealing with as he claims "people who hate us because of our freedoms and want to do us harm" is to give up those very freedoms that make us special. i dont want or need a half wit like that's so called protection.
And Johnny, my "no Johnny" in my 9;08PM post was not disagreeing with you it was in referece to your prior post that I was not taking into account the treaty of Versaille as a root cause of Hitler's rise to power.
ReplyDeleteWell said Worfeus, FF like his repug counterparts like to take a logical argument and twist it and exagerate it into absurdity till it no longer resembles the persons original thoughts and arguments, in other words they like to infer things people never said into the oppositions arguments to attempt to paint them into the riddiculous.
ReplyDeletemust have taught that in reich wingnut troll school since it is so ubiquitous among rethugs.
Matthew 24:4 “Watch out that no one misleads you. 24:5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will mislead many. 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Make sure that you are not alarmed, for this must happen, but the end is still to come. 24:7 For nation will rise up in arms against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and earthquakes15 in various places.
ReplyDeleteWonder how Jesus views the similiarities between the words of Bush and Hitler....and the similiarities of their actions and intentions?
Like I said before...I see God in heaven sitting with both bush and hitler amoung others and asking them to justify their actions...and when God accepts their justifications he will let them into heaven
ReplyDeleteAnd Hell is eternally attempting to find a justification that works
ReplyDeleteWorf those people should worry about their own answers not bush's
ReplyDeleteWorf said "Here's a list of interrogation techniques reliably documented at U.S. detention centers in Guantanamo or Afghanistan
ReplyDeleteAPPROVED METHODS OF INTERROGATION:
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Beating; punching with fists; use of truncheons; kicking; slamming against walls; stretching or suspension (to tear ligaments or muscles to cause asphyxia); external electric shocks; forcing prisoners to abase and to urinate on themselves; forced masturbation; forced renunciation of religion; false confessions or accusations; applying urine and feces to prisoners; making verbal threats to a prisoner and his family; denigration of a prisoner's religion; force-feeding; induced hypothermia and exposure to extreme heat; dietary manipulation; use of sedatives; extreme sleep deprivation; mock executions; water immersion; "water-boarding"; obstruction of the prisoner's airway; chest compression; thermal burning; rape; dog bites; sexual abuse; forcing a prisoner to watch the abuse or torture of a loved one."
don't let any of those heinous atrocities bother you worf, thats only what our good friend Voltaire would consider "DEPROGRAMMING"
Well I would imagine there would be quite a bit to clean up with almost 2 billion people to "Deprogram", but at least Haliburton and lots of other politically connected contractor will profit from building all those concentration camps.
ReplyDeletebehold the Rightwingnuts version of the 21st century.
Angry Fake Bible Boy said
ReplyDelete"a freakin Canadaian, who has no voice in this ultimately, as your wimpy country couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag,"
"Ryan, go to Lydiacornell.com and stir things up"
"Id save a dog from a fire before I would a human"
"Id squash that troll under my foot and shove his testicles down his throat."
"America is superior to Canada as it has more money"
Suddenly, Ann Coulter doesnt seem as bad anymore!
Nothing brings me more pleasure than exposing the REAL Bible Boy!
And you actually have the nerve to call conservatives Nazi's!!
Hope I get to be as smart as Fake Bible Boy one day.
LOL!
Holy crap, did Andrew Sullivan actually come out and say that, where?, thats great that people are actually starting to say whats really going on.
ReplyDeletewow, those articles are amazing, I cant belive The Washington Post or Andrew Sullivan actually came out and said that, those articles are so truthful its chilling, I wouldnt be surprised if those statements made Lydia's next blog, unless there is something more newsworthy we are not aware of.
ReplyDeleteWorf said "“It’s not the the republicans don’t want to protect the nation from terrorists.
ReplyDeleteIts just that they’re not smart enough to do it.”"
No argument from me that the repugs arent smart, but I thyink you are giving them too much credit, I dont think they really give a rats ass about protecting us from terrorists, if they did they would have used ALL our forces to capture OSAMA and would have secured our borders and ports immediately after 9/11, all 9/11 was was the enabler that allowed them to seize enough power to implement their global agenda unchecked. And I could care less if FF or Voltaire havbe a problem with that because thats the truth whether they are too afraid to face it or not.
Worf, i'm almost positive that has been there since she started the blog 2 days ago. Thats what got us started talking about the nazi's.
ReplyDeleteI've been screaming this for two years now, that the repubs are just stupid.
ReplyDeleteI don't know to be sure if they're evil or not. Hell maybe stupidity is evil.
But what I do know is these guys are too stupid to run a stocking, much less a country.
-Worf (Liberal Genius)
Here's a first class Conservative mind for those still in touch with reality:
Rafts by Bill Whittle
Yeah FF, I remember you saying Bush lost you with the port deal and you cant defend him anymore, yet here you are swilling the Neo Con koolaid all over again defending your boys.
ReplyDeleteWhats up with that FF?????????????????????????????????????????
Worf said "I don't know to be sure if they're evil or not. Hell maybe stupidity is evil.
ReplyDeleteBut what I do know is these guys are too stupid to run a stocking, much less a country"
Well FF maybe Worf doesnt know they are evil, but I do, although because your boys keep classifying everything to remain in power and bury all evidence and proof they are evil, I know it in my heart, my gut and deep down in my soul that your boys are evil to the core.
As for the bush administration being incompent and a bunch of liars, there is plenty of proof of that, all you have to do is open your eyes and stop chugging the koolaid lond enough to see it. It aint that hard lots of your people are starting to wake up, look at Andrew Sullivan.
Voltaire said "Some may think like you. And some may have their own opinions different than us. But they're STILL OUR countrymen and they're over there with a big target on their forehead while we sit here safe at home and you're too self righteous to give anyone the benefit of the doubt..."
ReplyDeleteThey are over there with a big target on them because of your incompetent bumbling people and that my friend is giving those evil SOB's the benefit of the the doubt, the've had the benefit of the doubt for 6 years and look at the mess they have made and all the blood on their hands, they have had too much benefit of the doubt as far as i'm concerned, its accountability time!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dont try to spin my arguments Voltaire, that just shows how empty and weak your are, I NEVER said to Hell with are troops Volty, nice try though I said they are over there because of the incompentent fools you support fighting a senseless war to empower and enrich your elitest cronnies.
ReplyDeleteSee if you guys really cared about the troops you would give them enough and proper equipment and adequate man power to get the job done safely, and you would be honoring them by funding the VA adaquately to take care of the sick and the injured as well as the retired veterans from previous wars, but you guys fail on all counts, and dont say there isnt enough money, because if you big rich benevolent tough guy patriots were as passionate about the cause as you claim, you would give back the tax cuts to pay for it, but thats not even on the radar screen for you guys because for you guys its all about you and what you can grab for yourselves.
Dont bet the farm on the outcome of the elections??????????
ReplyDeleteWhy do you know something I dont, are you guys gonna steal another election??????
Answer me this one "high voltage", what do you like about the Bush Administration and besides lining your wallet with there stupid tax cuts, what do you think they have done that is good????
ReplyDeleteI wait with baited breath for this answer.
Previously, I always dismissed Fake Bible Boy's deeply neurotic and erratic behavior.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, Im not joking......hes a nut!!
Volt said "The war on terror is off to a good start. We'll have to see if they are allowed to finish the job or not though...
ReplyDeleteam I to assume finishing the job means "deprograming" or exterminating the almost 2 billion Muslims in the world.......starting with the countries with lotsa oil and natural gas of course??????
Volt said "The tax cuts are good too. (Did ya notice the revenues coming into the treasury are UP?)
ReplyDeleteOf course I KNOW all you guys would really like to up taxes so everybody can put their money in sheltered or deferred investments and watch the revenue to the treasury DROP like a rock."
No, what I notice is that the defit grows daily with no end in sight, interest rates are rising and the economy is slowing, answer me this O' wise one, the stock market is LOWER than it was 6 years ago, and now interest rates are rising, oil prices have been high for quite a while and the dollar will tank as soon as they realize Bernanke is another incompetent repug shill who has no control over the economy, if the Asians sell american assets and stop financing our deficits look out below for the stock market, the market will plummet while inflation rages due to the falling dollar and high oil just like the 1970's.
Voltaire there is only enough oil in ANWAR to supply our country for approximately 10 months however we currently dont even have the pipeline infrastructure to use it even if we had the wells drilled.
ReplyDeleteOn 5-30-05, Cheney said on CNN that the Insurgency in Iraq was in its last Throes.
ReplyDeleteOn 6-19-06, Cheney told the Washington Press Club that the Insurgency in Iraq was in its last Throes.
Things are really looking up. The Insurgency has only been in its last Throes for 13 months.
Only 713 months to go until the "Last Throes" will be over.
What awesome leaders the Republicans have.
Worf:
ReplyDeleteI just turned the Daily Show on as Russert was going on so I will have to catch it tomorrow afternoon.
Stewart is after Rove. It is about time someone did.
Hey Voltaire!
ReplyDeleteGive the libs hell buddy. Strangle that Warf Rat! Bwahahaha!
Worf's fantasy lover.
ReplyDeleteWorf's Hero!
ReplyDeleteVolt said "Dammit Mikey! Just when I think I've got you burpped you spit oatmeal everywhere...
ReplyDeleteThe budget is controlled by CONGRESS NOT the administration. Write your congressman."
your pilling the old bait and switch again Voltron old buddy, your attempting to spin words I never said because your arguments are weak, I never said I didnt hold congress responsiible for the deficit and never mentioned the Bush adiministration once in that entire post.
But since you brought it up, funding the administrations corrupt senseless war is a major cause of the deficit, but as you say since Congress is ultimately responsible, I look forward to the repug contrlloed congress being held accountable in November, your boys spend money they dont have like a bunch of drunken sailors with multiple credit cards.
Warf rat isn't that coulter out of drag?
ReplyDeleteWarf's liberal reporter buddies
ReplyDeletewhen a repug says "As far as last night goes, I don't think it was much of an ass whooping."
ReplyDeleteHe Really means OOOOWWWWWWW my ass is so sore I wont be sitting down for 3 days LOL :D
Mike:
ReplyDeleteWhy should you waste your time writing your Congressman?
Those same Republican Congressman has followed the Bush/Rove philosophy of seek and destroy since they got into power.
Those same Republican Congressman voted for Bush's made up war, they voted for Bush's energy policy for Big Oil, and they voted for those hatemongers he has put on the Supreme Court.
You might as well write Scooter in Prison. At least he can share that with his "cell buddy".
The Liberals' buddy Saddam really has a big heart.
ReplyDeleteFF, Naw I just tell 'em the truth and they THINK it's hell....LOL
ReplyDelete-Voltaire
/Give 'em Hell Harry
Abubaker Deghayes, who now runs the mosque in Brighton and whose brother Omar is a detainee at Guantanamo Bay, told an undercover reporter that he endorsed the views of George Galloway, the Respected MP, who said an attack on the prime minister by a suicide bomber could be morally justified. Deghayes said he prayed for Allah to support anyone who attacked Blair.
ReplyDelete-Atlas Shrugs
Hmmm. I'm likin' this Gitmo Bay thang more and more. S'pose they have room for one more...Gangrene George, British gary's buddy?
(2006-06-09) — As Blackberry devices and cell phones on Capitol Hill hummed with news of the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi yesterday, Congressional Democrats vowed that despite the loss they would fight on in “the war on the war on terror.”
ReplyDelete“Zarqawi will be missed because he put a human face on the futility of the illegal U.S. occupation of Iraq,” said one unnamed lawmaker, who assured a reporter that “Democrats are still optimistic. We’re still looking for the silver lining.”
Rep. John Murtha, D-PA, a former Marine and vocal critic of the military occupation of Iraq, immediately denounced “the Zarqawi massacre” and suggested that the F-16 pilot who dropped the bombs had snapped under pressure and murdered the al Qaeda leader “in cold blood.”
....
Meanwhile, Democrat National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and former presidential candidate Al Gore observed a moment of silence as they heard of the passing of Mr. Zarqawi, a fellow Internet pioneer.
-Scott Ott of Scrappleface
My condolences on your loss, Worf.
Worf waiting for a christofascist or neo-con admit they ever were wrong is like waiting for the rapture...it ain't gonna happen
ReplyDeleteScrappleFace: News Fairly Unbalanced. We Report. You Decipher
ReplyDeletesort of runs in the reich wingnuts case ya know
Clif!
ReplyDeleteHey buddy, I didn't recognize you at first...without your 17 page cut-and-paste plagerisms to demonstrate how smart you are.
Poor poor Freedom fart still insecure I see can't think of an coherant argument so attack and paste lies by others
ReplyDelete"Freedom Fag"? Gee Wharf Ms. Cornell is going to be so upset with you for using gay epithets to smear your opponents. Isn't it supposed to be the right-wingers who are the bigots according to you lefties?
ReplyDeleteClif,
ReplyDeleteYou may be a pinko socialist, but still you are probably the most level-headed guy I know. In fact there is only one guy I know who is more level-headed.
But the cutting stories about the attrocities in Iraq is gonna get worse...the 101st Airbourne Division has just charged 3 soldiers with murder in the death of a detainee, the marines still face the charges fron Haditha, the Italian government is looking into charging a marine for the shooting death of an italian agent, and Al Quaeda claims to have captured 2 American soldiers...looks like the war is not under georgie's control...and god must not have said what georgie in a cocaine flashback thought he heard
ReplyDeleteClif,
ReplyDeleteDid you ever finish that college course on How to Post a Link in a Blog Message?
LKookie Freedom fart is making jokes while the situation in Iraq is sinking every day...HE must think it is funny
ReplyDeleteBut the cutting stories about the attrocities in Iraq is gonna get worse...the 101st Airbourne Division has just charged 3 soldiers with murder...
ReplyDelete-Clif
I'm so happy for you. At least that should cheer you up after Zarqawi discovered those two J-Dams up his sphincter.
Funny freedom fart disappears and we get analmouse...and when analmouse disapopears..(back up FF anus?) the fart is back
ReplyDeleteFf said "Clif,
ReplyDeleteDid you ever finish that college course on How to Post a Link in a Blog Message?:
Ah textbook Right Winnuts in action, if you cant win an argument, attack the messenger, after all we all know the topic we've been discusing all night is Clif posting links right????
doesnt using the old bait and switch when you cant win an argument get kinda old FF????
FF since you never answered my previous quesiont to you, out of the goodness of my heart, i'll repost it.
ReplyDeleteI didn't shead a tear for zarquawi..he got what he deserved...but all the young soldiers and marines put in impossible situations then thrown aside by this administtration does bother me because unlike you FF, I have been there
ReplyDeleteYeah FF, I remember you saying Bush lost you with the port deal and you cant defend him anymore, yet here you are swilling the Neo Con koolaid all over again defending your boys.
ReplyDeleteWhats up with that FF?????????????????????????????????????????
Ah textbook Right Winnuts in action, if you cant win an argument, attack the messenger, after all we all know the topic we've been discusing all night is Clif posting links right????
ReplyDelete-Mike
Gee you've been posting too? I thought it was just Wharf titillating all you ACLU-worshipping libs with nauseatingly repetitive posts about how hitler loved Jesus, so that proved that Dubya was just like hitler.
FF said;
ReplyDeleteI thought it was just Wharf titillating all you ACLU-worshipping libs with nauseatingly repetitive posts about how hitler loved Jesus, so that proved that Dubya was just like hitler.
Dumbya is not just like hitler...he was given much more at birth and still had to have many people carry water for hoim and clean up his meses...and he ducked combat
Turns out paradise is dumpier that you'd expect. A lot dumpier. In fact it's a lot like the Iraq boondocks; sandy, dusty, seemed like 150 degrees in the shade. I always figured paradise would have better climate control, but hey, Allah has the thermostat and He works in mysterious ways. I start looking around, and looking around. No virgins, no figs, no raisins.
ReplyDeleteParadise Is Overrated
-Iowahawk Guest Commentary
by Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi
Former Senior VP, Al-Qaeda In Iraq
Iowa(chicken)hawk...please...at least get somebody to repost that TT does not use
ReplyDeleteDumbya is not just like hitler...he was given much more at birth and still had to have many people carry water for hoim and clean up his meses...and he ducked combat
ReplyDelete-Clif
Ah my mistake. Dubya is much worse than hitler...and the U.S. is much worse than the Nazis...and Christians are much worse than the Islamofascists...and Fox News is much worse than ceeBS.
Are your Birkenstocks comfy?
FF said;
ReplyDeleteAh my mistake. Dubya is much worse than hitler...
Never said the just more scared and less competent personally
and the U.S. is much worse than the Nazis...
No but the nazi's were defeated by the greatest generation for doing some of the same things Dumbya has the US doing right now
and Christians are much worse than the Islamofascists...
NOT christians...but the christofascists which are just like islamofascists ...both believe they are right and can kill or convert...see voltair' and coulter's comments
and Fox News is much worse than ceeBS.
At least you got one right but you spelled CBS wrong or were ya trying to spell CNN...right again....or PBS ...still right
Funny FF you show up right after analmouse runs somewhere and hides...and post like TT...why don't ya fart again anfd let ole analmouse out again?
ReplyDeleteCome on FF you can bring them out again
ReplyDeleteWhat's the matta FF can't keep up?>
ReplyDeleteHey the Ditzy Chits are making a big come-back. Bet you libs are thrilled with their new hit "Not Ready to Make Nice". I've heard it and it's quite good. Not as good as actual Country music but good enough to play on FM rock stations.
ReplyDeleteI hear the Chits are having to cancel ("postpone") about 20 venues on their U.S. tour. Maynes says they hafta go where the fans are...in other words Europe.
Gee it's such a relief to learn that the Chits were not locked away somewhere by Bush and Diebold and the vast Right Wing conspirators, like Mikey thought...
You can't find anything on the web to link to to retort back with...maybe some paid off ex-muslim-coulter-wanna-be?...or some high paid troll chicken hawk you look up to?
ReplyDeleteOh try and change the subject...nice troll tactic but who cares what yoa think about much since you seem to check with the reich wing network for your approved music
ReplyDeleteEven though I disagree with Ted nugent..I still listen to dog eat dog...great album...actually better than stranglehold since meatloaf sang vocals for him back then
See I can appreciate Ted for his guitar licks and talent ..I don't have to junk him because he and I do not see eye to eye on politics
ReplyDeleteBut you reich wingnuts must call in each day to see if you have the approved music list...or thoughts
ReplyDeleteClif,
ReplyDeleteDude, did you ever find a candidate to provide that sense of humor transplant you've been wanting?
Don't have a cow man.
you know what I find curious FF, zarquari gets killed and coulter comes out with a book and all of the sudden all the Reich Wing trolls are thumping their chests and defending their repug leaders honor, so my question to you guys is where have you guys been the last month???? you must have been hiding your heads in the sand, because you havent been around defending the indefensible the last 5 or six weeks with the exception of Troll Texan of course.
ReplyDeleteMust suck to actually like their music but have to toe the wingnut line....
ReplyDeleteProbably as much it sucks for Mary Cheney to back the repugs
Liberals can appreciate people for their skills..and disagree with their politiocal views...BTW the dixie chicks...(spelling corrected) do have talent as they have shown...and they will survive even if the goose stepping wingnuts must avoid them now....
ReplyDeleteLook at him, suddenly we're talking about the Dixie Chix?
ReplyDelete-Wharf
Yeah buddy. Well I'll leave in a little while and you can go back to haunting this site 24/7 with your repetitive asinine drivel while you bill us taxpayers.
I do not need a , sense of humor transplant...I have one that does not need to be check against the "party line" or be ignored like the wingnuts do so much...like they did to the dixie chicks
ReplyDeletewith your repetitive asinine drivel while you bill us taxpayers.
ReplyDeleteWorfeus doesn't work for the administratrion or the repug congress...you got your talking points mixed up again freedom fart
You must have worfeus confused with that bush-cheney speech writer you broked backed last night FF
ReplyDeleteBut don't worry with the flip flop this administration keeps doing every while to keep up they won't catch you because facts do not matter to them anyway
ReplyDeleteClif,
ReplyDeleteDon't you have something to cut-and-paste into this thread? It is still a little too responsive; no bandwidth constipation.
C'mon a short novel maybe? Mine Kampffff? The Elders of Zion? War and Peace?
What's the matta fart that the best you got...cvan't find the latest retort to lie about today so have to attack me AGAIN?
ReplyDeleteCome on you used to try and seem intelligent ...gave that up too I see
ReplyDeleteCVome on with all the time you had you must have written another half baked disertation on false freedoms again
ReplyDeleteOr has the LGF site folded because so FEW people actually go there?
ReplyDeleteWhat's the matta FF no witty come back...can't google fast enough?
ReplyDeletePlease tell me youi didn't stay up all night before trying to impress us and you weren't prepared today with preloaded witty remarks
ReplyDeleteThings aren't so bad in Iraq. There are over 2500 US soldiers killed, but the brave one, flew in UNDERCOVER last week under the protection of ONLY the green zone ,to look into the Iraqi leaders eyes and see into his soul.
ReplyDeleteOf course after gazing into his eyes and seeing the same dark soul, that he observed in the Russian leader Putin, he took a few photos and slipped back home.
Of course the brave one didn't make it out of the safety of the green zone, to see how safe the rest of Iraq was. Rummy told him things were fine.
See things aren't so bad.