Tuesday, December 16, 2008

CAROLINE KENNEDY vs. HILLARY SUPPORTERS



Please give us your opinion on whether Caroline should be given the New York Senate seat vacated by Hillary Clinton.

And please give us your opinion on the economic crisis, the "ponzai" scheme in Florida - and how you think people who have lost everything will survive in retirement. Should we set up free senior housing centers and free kitchens for retirees who have lost their life savings? What is the solution to massive unemployment — if millions more jobs are lost? I am interested in hearing inspiring, workable solutions to saving lives and sanity.

And please give us ideas on what you are doing to save money for the holidays. Is everyone cutting back? We are more excited about Christmas than ever because the spirit of giving is in the air.

117 comments:

  1. Okay - I have not been paying attention to the blog as we are overwhelmed with Christmas and homework and writing and haircuts and dogs and decorating and returning things to dollar store that were made in China.

    I love the 99 Cent store because you can get Christmas bows and vanilla candles and English toffee for only 99 cents.

    But check the "Made in China" on the back of any edibles, toys and even dog toys!

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  2. But now I'm paying attention.
    Luv xo
    Lyd

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  3. I see no problem with Caroline Kennedy a senate seat. She is after all a Kennedy, so she has an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of politics.

    Besides, pretty much anyone can be a Senator. Just look at Ted Stevens.

    She'll do fine.

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  4. Carolyn Kennedy would probably make a good Senator..............she's smart, she has name recognition and she has fund raising ability.

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  5. As far as cutting back i was trying to cut back a little but I just spent $1700 on car repairs so now I guess i'm helping out the Auto industry............and the airlines with all the traveling i've done.

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  6. The solution to massive unemployment is job creation, we need to create jobs in alternative renewable energy that help productivity and the quality of people's lives.............throwing money to the banking elite or giving everyone a $600 check isnt the answer we NEED tio investy in the future and that future is public transportation and wind, solar, LNG, nuclear, clean coal etc.......both at the corporate and consumer levels.

    instead of just willy nilly throwing money at banks and giving EVERYONE a $600 check...............we should be giving tax credits to people who put solar panels on their house, or buy hybrid cars..................likewise city's and energy companies should ONLY be getting tax credits for building public transportation, upgrading the grid, building solar or wing infrastructure or building LNG or nuclear terminals or increasing refining and current production.

    The days of giving tax cuts to the unproductive for NOTHING in return need to be OVER we need to work towards a common goal for the public good.

    Think how much better peoples lives would be if we didnt have to pay substantial portions of our salaries for energy to fuel our cars, heat our homes and power our appliances.............think of the good that money could do being spent in THIS COUNTRY instead of being funneled to countries in the Middle East that hate us.

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  8. If trillions werent being wasted on imported oil and unneccessary wars of choice based on lies................ALL of our citizens, particularly the poor and working class would be MUCH better off.

    We could career traing, healthcare, pensions, programs to promote homeownership etc....

    2:45 PM

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  9. What about the auto bailout? Wouldn't it be catastrophic if we let the Big 3 fail - and all those employees and subsidiary industries lost their jobs and companies? Glass, tire, vinyl, parts, etc...

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  10. Yes, it is just folly to suggest that we can just let them collapse. These are huge industries that so many peripheral manufacturers rely on. If we let the automakers collapse, the steel industry will soon follow, as will lots of other fabrication industries, like several plastic manufacturers, tire dealers, glassworks, etc.

    People don't think about the supporting industries. Idiots with ideological axes to grind will come in and will talk about fair markets and bootstrap ideologies but the fact is its all folly.

    These comapanies are critical to our economy.

    Just handing them 15 or 30 billion dollars however is of course folly as well, and no ones suggesting that. We're talking about restructuring, federal oversight and a move towards alternate technologies and reduced fuel consumption.

    Bail them out and make them better in the process.

    Thats what the SMART folks want.

    Everyone else is caught up in ideological debates while rome burns.

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  11. You need to preach to those you know Lydia and say just what you said.

    So many people do not understand the peripheral industry domino effect but you clearly do. So spread the word.

    Think about it. These fat, sausage eating pigs in Congress are sitting there blabbering nonstop about a lousy 14 billion dollars, when they are meanwhile saying nothing about spending ONE BILLION DOLLARS A DAY in Iraq!

    In two weeks of Iraq we'd pay for the Auto Industry bailout!

    And we spent 700 BILLION to help the banks, and they squandered half of that already!

    Why is congress suddenly being so tightfisted when the jobs of 3 MILLION Americans, and COUNTLESS millions in peripheral fields are hanging in the balance?

    Its because they don't care about actual Americans. They' let an entire state of people fall into collapse rather than do something.

    The new republican mentality is similar to the mentality right before the fall of the Soviet Union. The govt stopped caring about things that would normally make any normal group of people cringe. But they let everything collapse, and it became commonplace to just accept failure after failure rather than work to do something about it.

    George Bush doesn't like work. Neither do fat sausage swilling pigs like Boner. They don't want to do anything to help the little people, just keep their own pockets and the pockets of those like them lined with cash and screw the little guy.

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  12. Bart said "Its because they don't care about actual Americans. They' let an entire state of people fall into collapse rather than do something.

    The new republican mentality is similar to the mentality right before the fall of the Soviet Union. The govt stopped caring about things that would normally make any normal group of people cringe. But they let everything collapse, and it became commonplace to just accept failure after failure rather than work to do something about it.

    George Bush doesn't like work. Neither do fat sausage swilling pigs like Boner. They don't want to do anything to help the little people, just keep their own pockets and the pockets of those like them lined with cash and screw the little guy."


    Your absolutely right about the repug mentality being like that of the Soviet Union or Rome before the collapse............they dont give a crap about the working class and thats OBVIOUS, the sad part is they STILL PRETEND to care about being fiscally conservative and rewarding success when in reality .................its the rhetoric they are hiding behind to try to break the union and drive down wages for the unwashed working classes they look down their noses at.

    Its been a wet dream of these greedy bastards to break the unions and destroy the New Deal policies that benefit the working class ever Since FDR implemented them 75 years ago.

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  13. The slimeball repugs keep paroting baldfaced lies trying to stoke public outrage and allow them to break the UAW by trying to portray the UAW workers as overpaid fatcats making $70 an hour the truth is the UAW workers dont make anywhere near $70 an hour..........their wages are closer to $25 an hour factor in benefits and their compensation is only about $10 more than their non union counterparts or $45 vs $35............their wages without insurance and pensions are very comparable to their foreign competition.

    What is killing the American automakers is the legacy costs for their retired workers............if we can construct a bailout that pays off their legacy costs and national healthcare relieves the burden of insurance from the automakers they can be VERY competitive with the foreign automakers provided they make products that consumers want.

    Bart and Lydia are absolutely right a whole slew of related industries in the supply chain will fail as well if we let the auto companies fail.........we need to help make them competitive with their foreign counter parts and if they have viable business plans relieving them of the burdens of their legacy costs and health care could certainly acomplish that.

    Additionaly during WW2 the automakers were mandated to produve military items for the war..........we can mandate the automakers get into the manufacture of public transportation and solar panels and wind turbines...........the tax breaks to consumers to put solar panels on their homes and for cities to install public transportation and wind and solar for their infra structure would create enormous demand and enormous streams of profit for the auto companies and help them diversify away from just automobile manufacturing.

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  14. These idiots can squander 3 TRILLION on a war based on lies, and throw TRILLIONS MORE to Banks and Wall Street cronnies who REFUSE to lend and just buy up zombie companies for tax deductions and take million dollar bonus's with tax payer money.........but they cant fork over a few billion to save the auto industry and provide National Health care to save MILLIONS of good paying middle class jobs.

    If these IDIOTS dont figure out how to keep our middle class jobs, rebild our industrial base, and end our dependency on imported oil from countries that hate us..........we will collapse and enter a dark age just like Rome did.

    We rise and fall together and if we cant help the poor and working class to prosper them everyone suffers.............like i said 4 years ago..........the 2 MAIN causes of economic depressions are unequal distribution of wealth and excessive debt...........the 1930's were just like NOW the Rich stole too much of the pie at the expense of the working class and when the economy contracted and debt became unbearable jobs collapsed and the vicious circle stated and it took years to come out of it!

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  15. Tough crowd I guess!

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  16. This is really right on the mark....WHO IS YOUR ROLE MODEL???


    Try it without looking at answers
    * Pick your favorite number between 1-9
    * Multiply by 3 then
    * Add 3; then again multiply by 3 (I'll wait while you get the
    calculator....)

    * You'll get a 2 or 3 digit number....
    * Add the digits together
    Now Scroll down...........

    Now with that number see who your ROLE MODEL
    is from the list below:

    1. Hillary Clinton
    2. Nelson Mandela
    3. Mother Teresa
    4. Warren Buffett
    5. Bill Gates
    6. Gandhi
    7. Al Gore
    8. Eleanor Roosevelt
    9. MIKE
    10. Barack Obama

    I know....I just have that effect on people....one day you too can be like me.... :-) Believe it!

    PS. Stop picking different numbers. I AM YOUR IDOL, JUST DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!

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  17. Happy Saturnalia!

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  18. gee I don't know Mike, you pull some really hairy wheelies...

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  19. Oh and a Happy Festivus to you too.

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  20. Worf and Mike having their nightly dufuss festival.

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  21. "heh heh...worf and Mike....dufuss...dojo...circle jerk....heh heh....."

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  22. Paul M. Weyrich dead at age 66 …….



    ….. he died 65 years too late.

    Hope he rots in hell

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  23. An "orderly" bankruptcy.Now we're talking....finally someone making sense.

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  24. Yea, what a great idea. Bankrupt three auto makers so that you ensure that NO ONE, NO WHERE will ever buy another new car from them, as a bankrupt firm does not bode well for warranty's or service, something new car buyers naturally demand.

    Great idea there Rockefeller.

    No wonder you're still living in your moms basement.

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  25. Yea....I'm want a new car.....but I don't want one of them nice German or Japanese warrantied models....I'd like a car from an unsuccessful bankrupt firm.

    I'm looking at something the like the new Cheverolet Chapter7 with fuel injection and dual carbs, or perhaps something more conventional like the new Dodge Reorganization Mini-Van.

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  26. It's a wonder Wall Streets not calling you.

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  27. Course, could be that President Bush is banking on there being enough idiots like you who probably would spend 20,000 dollars on a new car from a bankrupt auto manufacturer.

    Hey you guys got him elected twice.

    Must be a few of ya, huh?

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  28. Oh now I see why cRusty popped up and wants to talk about the auto makers.

    Because this story was breaking.


    Panel: Congress was misled on Iraq uranium issue

    PAMELA HESS, Associated Press Writer Pamela Hess, Associated Press Writer – 29 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – Former White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales misled Congress when he claimed the CIA in 2002 approved information that ended up in the 2003 State of the Union speech about Iraq's alleged effort to buy uranium for its nuclear weapons program, a House committee said Thursday. The committee also expressed skepticism about claims by then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice that she was unaware of the CIA's doubts about the claim before President George W. Bush's speech

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  29. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee said in a memo that its investigation showed the CIA had warned at least four National Security Council officials not to allow Bush, in three speeches in 2002, to cite questionable intelligence that Iraq had attempted to obtain uranium. The sentences were stripped out of those speeches, but made it into the State of the Union address.

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  30. The committee said Gonzales, and Rice to a lesser degree, misled the public and Congress


    Isn't it illegal to mislead Congress?

    ....hmmmmmm....

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  31. Rice "asserted publicly she knew nothing about any doubts the CIA had raised about this claim prior too the 2003 State of the Union address," according to the memo. Gonzales "asserted to the Senate — on her behalf — that the CIA approved the use of this claim in several presidential speeches."

    The report said the evidence raises "serious questions about the veracity of the assertions that Mr. Gonzales made to Congress on behalf of Dr. Rice about a key part of the President's case for going to war in Iraq."

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  32. Here comes the blanket pardons.

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  33. Hey, Clif is back! Welcome back, me-bucko. You're just in time for Rick Warren's invocation at the inaugural. Should be exciting, huh?

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  34. Worf,you are truely an idiot,that tired line about no one buying a vehicle if either or all go into a controlled bankruptcy is just you're party line,nothing else.The same as the three million jobs that will go away the minute any of the three declare is likewise pure B.S..All dealerships are'nt going to close,all warranties are'nt going to be null and void,stop with that stupid shit.You should at least try to appear smarter then that.
    You present yourself as a business owner...if you indeed are you must have one where you dont have to control cost at all,otherwise you'd be singing a different tune.
    These three companys have cost that are'nt going away,they have a failing business model,throwing money at them is'nt going to change anything.Unless there are drastic changes in their cost structure thier fate is alreay determined.

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  35. One other point....I was never a McCain supporter nor did I vote for him,but I'd like to ask my progressive friends a question.

    When McCain announced Sarah Palin as his running mate the outrage from the left was relentless....eventhough Palin was an elected councilperson,mayor and governor she was viewed by the left as unprepared.Now the question....I realize being vice-president has much more responsibility then say a senator, what qualifies Caroline Kennedy to be the junior senator from New York? What has she ever done?Other then support Obama.Does an individual accumulate political savy though the gene pool?

    Let me say,I dont live in New York,never had and really could care less who their senators are,but do I detect a bit of a double standard here?

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  36. O.K. worf....commence with the name calling....thats all you've got when someone points out how stupid you are.

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  37. Blogger thereturnofRusty said...

    Worf,you are truely an idiot"



    Blogger thereturnofRusty said...

    O.K. worf....commence with the name calling....thats all you've got when someone points out how stupid you are."



    HMMMMM.............typical little repug hippocrite!

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  38. TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!

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  39. Oh,idiot junior is on the scene.

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  40. Rusty the blog troll said "O.K. worf....commence with the name calling....thats all you've got when someone points out how stupid you are."


    Crusty the hippocrite then said "Worf,you are truely an idiot"


    Find something else to piss and whine about troll..........dont come in here calling names then cry when people call an iDIOT like you names back.

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  41. This is the business wizard that wants the american taxpayer to pay the auto industries legacy cost.

    A typical leftwing moron....lets reward failure and punish success.

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  42. Hey Crusty how many dealers and pit bosses got laid off the last month.........if your too proud to accept the public dole you can always mow my lawn and pull out some weeds when your card gets punched like the auto workers you snicker about and look down your nose on!

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  43. That thinking is fine in your position when you're working at a "paper hat" job.Unfortunately the majority of americans dont feel the same.Unfortunatley for you.

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  44. I have no idea how many layoffs there were....but I do know Steve Wynn is opening his new place this week.

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  45. Blogger thereturnofRusty said...A typical leftwing moron....lets reward failure and punish success."


    Yeah kind of like Bush and Paulson did by throwing money to the Wallstreet elite and their banking cronnies with no oversite............kinda like that rewarding failure and punishing success right?

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  46. But I'd guess in your eyes someone like Steve Wynn is another successful person that needs to be punished.After all he's only created about 100,000 jobs.

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  47. Your company line is getting old.Apples and oranges trying to compare the financial industry to smokestacks.Saying that just makes you look stupid.

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  48. Las Vegas is imploding just like the auto companies...........unless the dollar plummets and Vegas is able to attract wealthy foreigners because of the cheap dollar I dont see Vegas as having a viable business plan either totel rates at Vegas are dirt cheap wait till Summer i'll bet things get REALLY bad for Vegas between the job losses and higher gas prices.

    Just checking you dont think Las Vegas's failure should be rewarded with a bailout do you?

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  49. REALLY what does the financial industry actually produce of value?


    Those Wall Street jobs are NEVER coming back the financially industry will be tightly regulated if these firms even survive and they will never be an engine of employment and job creation again.........the financial industries becoming the dominant engine of an economy is clear sign of a declining economy and a declining Superpower its been proven throughout history........something you and your inbred repug IDIOTS are clearly ignorant of!

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  50. Mike,what you know about Las Vegas could fit in a thimble.Christmas is the slowest time of year.Check back in NewYears Eve or Super Bowl weekend.

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  51. Manufacturing is a sign of a growing economy and RISING standard of living........Finance is a sign of a declining standard of living and economic standing.

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  52. Mike,theres more Dubai money in Las Vegas then anywhere in the U.S..They aint going broke.

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  53. ts not Christmas yet!

    My friend is there with his wife NOW, and my other friend went with his wife in early November and it was MUCH MUCH slower than usual and rates were cheap...........like I said I heard thousands of pit bosses and dealers got laid off...........doesnt sound like boom times to me?

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  54. Rusty I never said I was a business owner and you couldn't work an abacus with instructions.

    Bankrupting America's big three automakers will do a lot more than ensure the collapse of their sales industry. It will send shockwaves throughout the international financial community and do serious damage to the dollar. Its not a good move on any level.

    The govt had no problem handing SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION to the banking industry including lending institutions all who squandered the money but they BALK at giving a pawltry 14 billion to help the auto manfuactuers stay afloat unless already underpaid struggling blue collar workers give up concessions?

    Its bullshit at Christmas and you're the grinch.

    As for the name calling everytime you come in you call names so don't play the martyr with me little man. You're a fool who couldn't balance a checkbook.

    Bankruptcy.

    Yea.

    What a solution.

    Idiots every last one of you.

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  55. Manufacturing is indeed the sign of a robust economy.....but only if you can make the product better,faster and cheeper then your competition...if you cant you're going to fail.That is unless as you believe have the government make up the difference.Is'nt that kind of like rewarding failure?

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  56. Yea will since you're too stupid to read the thousand or so posts we made about what to do with restructuring, new technoliges, oversight, etc, all I can do is refer you to "Hooked on Phonics".

    Some day your dumb ass will learn to read.

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  57. You call the UAW members underpaid struggling blue collar workers.....surely you jest.

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  58. Oh yea I forgot, you're just a liar.

    You read, you just purposely leave out the facts that don't correlate to your simple minded taunts.

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  59. Worf,its you that the fool.If you for one minute think blue skying is going to fix the mess this countrys in your crazy.
    Now is not the time to say lets follow the yellow brick road to Oz.

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  60. Auto workers average 21 to 37 bucks an hour. You try making a living on that pal and supporting a family.

    Go suck your leaders ass some more little man. I've got better things to do with my night then repeat the same things over and over for a bootlicking traitor who lies with every breath.

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  61. You two have never been even close to reality.

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  62. 37 an hour plus benefits...I think you missed that point.

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  63. Blogger thereturnofRusty said...

    Manufacturing is indeed the sign of a robust economy....."


    Blogger thereturnofRusty then said...Your company line is getting old.Apples and oranges trying to compare the financial industry to smokestacks.Saying that just makes you look stupid."


    Return of Rusty said "but only if you can make the product better,faster and cheeper then your competition...if you cant you're going to fail.That is unless as you believe have the government make up the difference.Is'nt that kind of like rewarding failure?"



    So which is it TROLL is manufacturing good or is it a laughable industry worthy of scorn compared to the sacred financial industry.............and if according to YOU the financial industry is sacred...........why then should failure in THAT industry be rewarded?


    Your boys Bush and Paulson just threw money at the banks and Wall Street with NO OVERSITE like it was welfare or something.........funny how you dont say shit about that though.......you just come in here shooting your big mouth off about the auto industry because its been a wet dream of your masster to break the unions for 75 years and instead of a tragedy those pieces of scum see this as an opportunity to break the unions....hence your robotic marching orders and idiotic talking points!

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  64. Mike,I was and am against any type of bailout for anyone,the banking industry included.
    Let the market rule...if you cant compete,get out of the way.

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  65. Tell me crusty all the retired UAW workers were successful, they worked hard all their lives do you think we should just screw them over and say tough your not going to get the retirement you were promised or do you think circumstances have changed and they need to sacrifice what they THOUGHT they were entitled to because of the current circumstances.

    And if you DO think the retired UAW workers need to sacrifice do you think the wealthy in this country NEED to sacrifice and pay higher taxes because of the current circumstances?

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  66. I dont care if you make cars,widgets,give out loans,afford gambling or what ever....if you cant do it better and cheeper then the other guys you should go out of business.

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  67. And the foreign automakers pay essentially comparible WAGES...........so once you get National Health care and remove the legacy costs the American auto companies can easily compete with the foreign companies provided they make products consumers want..............something YOU HAVE CONTINUOUSLY IGNORED since it undermines your frantic agenda to break the unions!

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  68. Mike,pensions in this country are protected by law.A company must fund their pensions.There is'nt any retired auto worker who's not going to get their pension.
    The legacy cost are full pay for up to...I think...dont quote me here..four years for an employee whose factory has closed or his job eliminated.
    The legacy has nothing at all to do with an employees pension.

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  69. Health insurance and pension................what are those retirees going to do to afford health insurance........as for the pensions, pensions go bankrupt all the time with a down market companies have to add SUBSTANTIAL amounts of cash to fund the pensions and keep them viable if a company is bankrupt, cash starved or lacks access to credit to maintain the business there is no possible way to do this.

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  70. A good example of a business model is Boeing.Ten years ago people were crying that Airbus was cleaning Boeings clock due to being subsidized by governments overseas.Well,Boeing got their act together,cut their cost,improved their quality and are again the industry leader.....without a bailout from anyone.

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  71. Let me say this,you cant protect everyone,or course there's going to be people hurt....hell,there's millions hurting tonight.

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  72. Boeing was helped by a cheap dollar and expensive Euro far more than ANY of those other factors...........your a typical repug that sees the world in black and white and proposes simple kneejerk feelgood solutions to complex problems without looking at the big picture and thinking of a solution that actually works.

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  73. So your saying the retirees need to sacrifice what they THOUGH they were entitled to because of the current conditions right?

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  74. These companys must have the opportunity to reorganize.In their present form they are dinosaur's doomed to extinction.

    You cant sell something for 10 bucks when it cost you 20 to make it.

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  75. Bullshit Mike,Boeing was helped by a far superior 777 and soon to be 787.Plus they cut their cost to get their pricing in line.Mike,I know this for a fact.

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  76. Forget it Mike. He's too dumb dirt stupid to see beyond his own partisan cue cards.

    To him its a matter of "helping people". The right wing tells their jackboot lickers like cRusty, "hey, dems want to help people" and twisted little f$4ks like cRusty go out and sell the lie.

    This is about maintaining three business icons at a time of crisis and keeping us ALL afloat.

    To cRusty, who can't see 3 moves down the chessboard, its just a handout for them.

    He doesn't see the big picture.

    Guys like him never will.

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  77. Of course the UAW has to understand current conditions.Similar to what the United Mine Workers went through.

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  78. as USUAL your ignoring the facts AGAIN.........the wages for the UAW workers are similar to Honda, Toyota etc.........its the insurance and legacy costs that are more............if the wages are similar then production costs are would be similar if the legacy costs were removed and we had national health care.

    you do what I just said plus get the auto companies to make natural gas/electric hybrids and into the manufacturing and installation of public transportation wind and solar and they could be VERY profitable!

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  79. Worf,that touchy feely shit dont hunt.
    You cant make custard out of mustard.

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  80. Mike,have you ever heard the term "capital investment?"

    Do you think you just flip a switch and start making a different product?

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  81. See what a stupid mutherf#@$ker he is Mike?

    I just said its not about helping people and he comes back from that.

    What a moron.

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  82. Touchy feely cRusty is the game your dad used to play with you and your siblings when you were little.

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  83. Blogger thereturnofRusty said...

    Of course the UAW has to understand current conditions.Similar to what the United Mine Workers went through."


    Really so does that mean the wealthy NEED to pay MORE taxes then since the circumstances in this country have drastically changed and we are essentially bankrupt with deficits as far as the eye can see............if the viability of the auto companies is in question so to is the viability of our country..........we have trillions in bailouts to fund, wars to fund, Social Security etc......

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  84. Yeah, i'm going to go watch a movie.......i'm done talking to this IDIOT!

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  85. Later.

    I've got better things to do than argue with an inbred who can't even read what someone wrote 5 minutes ago.

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  86. You got it boys....the last train is leaving for Oz.

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  87. We would but you stole our seat.

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  88. cRusty wants to talk auto bailout Mike because he doesn't want to talk about this.



    WASHINGTON – Former White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales misled Congress when he claimed the CIA in 2002 approved information that ended up in the 2003 State of the Union speech about Iraq's alleged effort to buy uranium for its nuclear weapons program, a House Democrat said Thursday.

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  89. Just like we always said he did.

    Just like cRusty and the other retards with him said he didn't.

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  90. Not that anyone in the world other than mental retards like cRusty and crew needed a report to tell us that.

    This is what's called a "crime hiding in plain sight" .

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  91. Al Frankin LEADS by;

    110 votes and his lead is RISING ......

    It looks like 59 democratic senators after all.

    And with Brownback and Martinez already throwing their shoes at their seats, (and Tweety all but tied in the polls with Arlen Specter ) the reich wing chances in 2010 don't look so good.

    In fact in the time it took to write this Al Frankin's lead went to 118 votes,

    Coleman is soooo doomed before his corruption trial.

    Say Senator Al Frankin .. crusty.

    LOL

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  92. HOW FREAKIN TYPICAL;

    Levi Johnston's mother hit with drug charges

    Arrested: her son was in the spotlight as father of bristol palin's baby.

    HOW SWEET

    st sarah's friend is more Alaskan trailer park trash it seems.

    I wonder if she dealt to Track ..... or even bristol so her son could score?

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  93. That could make for an interesting wedding NOW,

    don't ya thunk?

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  94. She brings the "party favors" .......

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  95. Al Frankin is leading by 167 now and Bristol Palin's future mother-in-law is an accused drug dealer.

    Ahhhh the schadenfreude of it all .....

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  96. Now it’s Franken by 220 votes.

    What a nice Christmas present from Minnesota to the rest of the US

    Kicking the asshat Coleman to the curb and electing a very smart LIBERAL to the US senate.

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  97. And .. now .. it .. is .. Senator Al by 246 votes ..... suck on that reichwingers.........

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  98. CHRISTMAS PARTY

    FROM: Pauline, Human Resources Director
    TO: All Employees
    DATE: 21st October 2008
    RE: Christmas Party

    I'm happy to inform you that the company Christmas Party will take place on December 23rd, starting at noon in the private function room at the Grill House. There will be a cash bar and plenty of drinks! We'll have a small band playing traditional carols...please feel free to sing along. And don't be surprised if the MD shows up dressed as Santa Claus! A Christmas tree will be lit at 1.00p.m. Exchange of gifts among employees can be done at that time; however, no gift should be over $20.00 to make the giving of gifts easy for everyone's pockets. This gathering is only for employees! The MD will make a special announcement at the Party.
    Merry Christmas to you and your Family.
    Pauline

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    FROM: Pauline, Human Resources Director
    TO: All Employees
    DATE: 22nd October 2008
    RE: Holiday Party
    In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognize that Chanukah is an important holiday, which often coincides with Christmas, though unfortunately not this year. However, from now on we're calling it our 'Holiday Party'. The same policy applies to any other employees who are not Christians. There will be no Christmas tree or Christmas carols sung. We will have other types of music for your enjoyment.
    Happy now?
    Happy Holidays to you and your family.
    Pauline.
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    FROM; Pauline, Human Resources Director
    TO: All Employees
    DATE: 23rd October 2008
    RE: Ho liday Party
    Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous requesting a non-drinking table...you didn't sign your name. I'm happy to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads, 'AA Only', you wouldn't be anonymous anymore!!!! How am I supposed to handle this? Somebody? Forget about the gift exchange, no gift exchange allowed now since the Union Officials feel that $20.00 is too much money and Management believe $20.00 is a little cheap. NO GIFT EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
    Pauline.
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    FROM: Pauline, Human Resources Director
    TO: All Employees
    DATE: 24th October 2008
    RE: Holiday Party
    What a diverse group we are! I had no idea that December 20th begins the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinking during daylight hours. There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how a luncheon at this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim employees' beliefs, perhaps the Grill House can hold off on serving your meal until the end of the party - or else package everything up for you to take home in a little foil doggy bag. Will that work? Meanwhile, I've arranged for members of Weight Watchers to sit farthest from the dessert buffet and pregnant women will get the table closest to the toilets, Gays are allowed to sit with each other, Lesbians do not have to sit with gay men, each will have their own table. Yes, there will be flower arrangements for the gay men's table too. To the person asking permission to cross dress - no cross dressing allowed. We will have booster seats for short people. Low fat food will be available for those on a diet. We cannot control the salt used in the food we suggest those people with high blood pressure taste the food first. There will be fresh fruits as dessert for Diabetics; the restaurant cannot supply 'No Sugar' desserts. Sorry! Did I miss anything?!?!
    Pauline.
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    FROM: Pauline, Human Resources Director
    TO: All F***ing Employees
    DATE: 25th October 2008
    RE: The F****ing Holiday Party.
    Vegetarian pricks I've had it with you people !!! We're going to keep this party at the Grill House whether you like it or not, so you can sit quietly at the table furthest from the 'grill of death', as you so quaintly put it, you'll get your f***ing salad bar, including organic tomatoes, But you know tomatoes have feelings too, They scream when you slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing the scream right NOW!!
    I hope you all have a rotten holiday, drink drive and die.
    The Bitch from HELL!!!
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    FROM: John Benson.( Acting Human Resources Director )
    TO: All Employees
    DATE: 26th October 2008
    RE: Pauline Lewis and Holiday Party
    I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Pauline a speedy recovery, and I'll continue to forward your cards to her. In the meantime, the Management has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and instead, give everyone the afternoon of the 23rd December off with full pay.
    John Benson.

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  99. Sorry, Clif. I'm still holding out for Dean Barkley. It ain't over til it's over. Seriously, though, how you doin', man? This place was kinda colorless without you. But, hey, now you're back, celebrating the demise of a political adversary. Just like old times, dude!!!

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  100. I feel like I just parted the waters here. In the words of Eric Cartman, "I AM GOD!!!!!!!!"

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  101. I would put it no higher than ignored.

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  102. No widdle will you're not God, just another of Eric Cartman's farts son.

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  103. You guys are a South Park episode waiting to happen. I mean, seriously, can you even begin to imagine the scenario that those 2 fellows could construct; 3 paranoid lunatics affixed to their computer screen, drooling, masterbating, etc.. Something tells me it would make the Tom Cruise episode look like a compliment. Youza, huh?

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  104. You guys are a South Park episode that HAS happened.

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  105. 3 paranoid lunatics affixed to their computer screen, drooling, masterbating, etc..

    Duncetron, crusty the clown and willy the wimp,

    you nailed it turn key boy.

    ... three paranoid reich-wing lunatics in the pink pajama circle jerk room and it's auxiliary the waste of band width you run id-jet.

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  106. Come up with your own story-line, Clif. Oh, what's that, incapable? Sorry, I forgot.

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  107. No numbnuts, just givin' you idiots the rest of the story moron.

    Must suck to live in your cartoon infested delusional world where Eric Cartman is your hero.

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  108. I guess I'll be the naysayer. I have a deep and unshakable suspicion of political dynasties. It is my belief that by the time you get to even the 2nd generation of a dynasty that the heir is probably too far removed from real life to make good decisions. There will be exceptions to this, but I believe the risks far outweigh the benefits, especially after the last 8 years.

    Say no to peerage.

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  109. therefuseofcrusty belched

    An "orderly" bankruptcy.Now we're talking....finally someone making sense.


    Tell me, little boy, do you ever say anything that isn't stupid?

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  110. Do I ever say anything that is'nt stupid? Hmmm,let me think for a second....why yes I do...just about everything I do say.

    How about you sweet pea?

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  112. Even that was stupid.

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  113. Lydia...

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year or any other Holidays you follow to you and all your loved ones.

    May the New Year be filled with nothing but love and joy for you and yours.

    God Bless.

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  114. Please leave new comments on NEW CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY THREAD!!

    Merry and Happy Holidaze!!

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  115. No, Clif, "delusional" (in the epic Cliffy-style utilization of the term) would be to say that Eric Cartman was a critcal component of the Kennedy assasination. Now THAT would be delusional/Cliffy-like moronic, huh?

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  116. The bailout is a very bad move for us at this time. It makes more sense to bailout the tax payers which are the people suffering the most...

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