Tuesday, September 02, 2008

SARAH PALIN SLASHED FUNDING FOR TEEN MOMS

The “family values” party has an adulterer on the top of the ticket who dumped his wife because she was disfigured in a car accident. The new wife was a drug addict who stole those drugs from a charity she ran. She fired the whistle blower. Now the vicious veep runing mate has more skeletons in her closet than a “bodies” exhibit. No substance, attack, attack, attack. Watch out glass house owners! Wasn’t this the party that viciously attacked a Vietnam Vet Hero in the last election?Comment from JoeG on SuziQ's blog

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin wrote in her line-item veto changes by hand in this copy of a 2008 spending bill obtained by The Washington Post.

By Paul Kane
ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.

After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.

According to Passage House's web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families."

Palin's own daughter, Bristol, is five months pregnant and has plans to wed.

"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," Palin said in a statement released by the McCain campaign. "We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy, as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."

Earlier today the Associated Press reported that Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, opposed funding to prevent teen pregnancies, a position that Palin also took as governor. "The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," she wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates.

Reporters asked McCain in November 2007 whether he supported grants for sex education in the United States, whether such programs should include directions for using contraceptives and whether he supports President Bush's policy of promoting abstinence.

"Ahhh, I think I support the president's policy," McCain said.
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Since Sarah Palin didn't write her own speech, of course, we can't wait to hear her debate foreign policy with Biden...

Putting Words in Palin's Mouth by Hiatt (Washington Post.com)

There was a flutter of attention when McCain campaign manager Rick Davis told a group of Post reporters and editors yesterday that his team was having to rework the vice presidential acceptance speech because the original draft, prepared before Gov. Sarah Palin was chosen, was too "masculine." While we all wondered to ourselves what might make a speech masculine or feminine, no one batted an eye at the underlying revelation: that the campaign was writing the nominee's speech before knowing who the nominee would be.


Even staunch right-winger Dr. Laura Schlesinger says she is "extremely disappointed in the choice of Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate of the Republican Party...I’m stunned - couldn’t the Republican Party find one competent female with adult children to run for Vice President with McCain?... But really, what kind of role model is a woman whose fifth child was recently born with a serious issue, Down Syndrome, and then goes back to the job of Governor within days of the birth?

I am haunted by the family pictures of the Palins during political photo-ops, showing the eldest daughter, now pregnant with her own child, cuddling the family’s newborn. When Mom and Dad both work full-time (no matter how many folks get involved with the children), it becomes a somewhat chaotic situation. Certainly, if a child becomes ill and is rushed to the hospital, and you’re on the hotline with both Israel and Iran as nuclear tempers are flaring, where’s your attention going to be? Where should your attention be? Well, once you put your hand on the Bible and make that oath, your attention has to be with the government of the United States of America. (From http://www.drlaurablog.com/)

The Sarah Palin Saga Only Gets Worse
by Robert A. Kezelis

When Vegas starts posting odds on when a VP nominee's name will be withdrawn from consideration, you know that something is brewing.

It turns out that there's more fire than smoke. The questions keep growing, so let's keep it simple, who, how, why, when, and where.

WHO
Even I hate to admit it, especially after Hillary joined them, there is a hidden conspiracy that stands against America, our constitution, our future, our freedoms. It is a Christian cabal. A D.C. centered group of rich, insane, power-hungry, conspirators who wish to control the destiny of this country in their direction. It is not a direction of which our founding fathers would have approved. It is, more than any other danger that our country faces, our most evil enemy. It also selected Sarah Palin. They met recently, vetted her, approved of her religious fascism, and promoted, then sold her to John McCain.

The Nation, one of the finest independent papers in this country, has the story:

The members of the Council for National Policy are the hidden hand behind McCain's Palin pick. With her selection, the Republican nominee is suddenly -- and unexpectedly -- assured of the support of a movement that once opposed his candidacy with all its might. Case in point: while Dobson once said he could "never" vote for McCain, he issued a statement last week hailing Palin as an "outstanding" choice. If Dobson's enthusiasm for Palin is any indication, he may soon emerge from his bunker in Colorado Springs to endorse McCain, providing the Republican nominee with the backing of the Christian right's single most influential figure.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/352...

HOW
John McCain has long ceased being his own person. From 2000 to today, the differences between McCain the Maverick, to McCain the NeoConMan are striking. Parsing the difference in behavior and personality is difficult. Some, including me, have suggested that he suffers from Senile Dementia. Others simply call McCain a political whore, willing to do and say anything to get elected. Still others simply say that he is a convenient politician. What works is convenient.

No matter the cause, no matter the reason, or combination thereof, McCain has sold his campaign to the Rovian club he recently collected, and then sold his soul to the ultra far right fringe of Christian theology. The Council chose Sarah Palin for him, in exchange for their support.

WHY
Do not believe the polls. The idea that 4 more yrs of Bush would ever receive 42% support in a national election is ridiculous. Internal polling shows a bigger lead for Obama, despite a serious impact of racism.

Sarah Palin, like any former beauty queen, is there simply to be a distraction. Avoid the hard questions, confuse and confound the enemy, and always change the discussion and the topic. The Rovian leaders within the McCain camp know how bad the future is, and this bowing to the ultra-religious-dominionist Cabal is a brilliant, timely, calculated move. On one hand, it throws those insane nuts a handful of crumbs. When she is replaced, (and rest assured, she will be), they will have been pacified. On the other hand, if she somehow manages to survive what is looking more and more like a serious vetting by serious investigators, she pretty much locks up the fundie vote for McCain. Despite being a Creationist nutcase herself.

WHE
When did the fall of Sarah start? Early, often, consistently.
When she demanded what amounted to a loyalty oath from her tiny town's employees, she showed her true colors. When she fired capable people simply because they did not kiss her feet sufficiently, she laid out her future behavior. When she headed a Senator Stevens 527 group, pushing for his re-election, despite serious ethical charges building up, she showed how corrupt she herself is. When she stood up next to Ted, pledging her support, she confirmed it. And when she scrubbed her website of those events, she showed that her campaign has a high school student on board with some smarts.

Palin's name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.," a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. The group was designed to serve as a political boot camp for Republican women in the state. She served as one of three directors until June 2005, when her name was replaced on state filings.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09...

I just hope whoever cleansed her website isn't impregnated at the age of 16. That might impact Sarah's family values positions.

Oh, wait. That already happened.

WHERE
Where will America find out about the true Sarah? Certainly not on cable news. Never on your local borecasts. Not in your local newspaper, especially when too many subscribe to the AP service, a failing, politicized, dysfunctional group that would rather protect the status quo than to fix their growing Fournier problem. WaPo tries. NYT tries. Even some western papers are investigating and reporting. But Gustav visuals are simply too "gnus-worthy"

Where will you learn about the real Sarah Palin? The Netroots. Be grateful they exist. It might just save this country yet.


OBAMA'S MAGNIFICENT NIGHT

Obama has transcended petty partisan politics by uniting us all in a speech that was severe, hard-hitting and transformational. He is a true leader and not a "celebrity." This election is about US: you and me, patriotic Americans joining together against the dark forces of corporate greed, cronyism, oil and war profiteering. Obama is a symbol of the American Dream and of our enlightened nature as a people. No matter what devious political maneuvering McCain and the Rovebots engage in — the TRUTH will win, for the truth has a liberal bias. Obama simply told the truth with strength, passion, empathy and honesty. - Lydia


For the spiritual solution to every problem in life please check out our other blog: at The Peacemakers * The Light of Truth


Lydia Cornell on CSPAN's Book-TV

151 comments:

  1. Ah, the vicious left-wing smear starts. First she's a 'MILF' now a sinister Christian.

    [Palin] could become a transformative political presence. So they are going to have to kill her, and kill her quick. And it's going to be brutal...

    I think the left will go hard on this: Fringe. Radical. What goes on in her church? Isn't she extreme?

    -Peggy Noonan, prescient columnist

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  2. OUTSTANDING LYDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!


    That article is AMAZING, just the type of hard hitting factual stuff to get people to start examining SaraH Palin's experience and credentials we NEED.

    And DONT let foole's like Fascist Fan try to buffalo you, or silence or intimidate you...........YOU NEED TO KEEP POSTING STUFF LIKE THIS.

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  3. We NEED more women like you, Stephanie Miller and Rachel Madow to get the facts out there to challenge the repugs Orwellian propaganda.

    Its pathetic and shameful the way they are hiding behind women to deceive people and hype the pathetic inexperienced joke that is Sarah Palin.............The Same way McSame hides behind his POW and military service.

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  4. BTW, since Vegas is giving odds on Whether Sarah Palin will resign..................I wonder what the odds are that Levi Johnston will CANCEL his wedding to Bristol Palin if McSame/Palin loses or she withdraws?

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  5. Out standing fake rage by some guy who posts this on another blog;

    Freedom Fan said...

    Some gal needs a good spankin'.

    September 3, 2008 1:05 AM


    So big guy you cry about WORDS but suggest violence eh?

    Typical right wing hypocrite .... cry about some words BUT go for the violence against women every time when you disagree with them.

    Same old freedum foole, loud mouth hypocrite to the bitter end.

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  6. Is Klink trying to "sneak" into Mikes bunk?

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  7. Mike Murphy, Peggy Noonan were talking to Chuck Todd off camera but the mike was live;

    Chuck Todd: Mike Murphy, lots of free advice, we'll see if Steve Schmidt and the boys were watching. We'll find out on your blackberry. Tonight voters will get their chance to hear from Sarah Palin and she will get the chance to show voters she's the right woman for the job Up next, one man who's already convinced and he'll us why Gov. Jon Huntsman.

    (cut away)

    Peggy Noonan: Yeah.

    Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys -- this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it's not gonna work. And --

    PN: It's over.

    MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.

    CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too.

    PN: Saw Kay this morning.

    CT: Yeah, she's never looked comfortable about this --

    MM: They're all bummed out.

    CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?

    PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this -- excuse me-- political bullshit about narratives --

    CT: Yeah they went to a narrative.

    MM: I totally agree.

    PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it.

    MM: You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.

    CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky.

    MM: Yeah.


    Looks like the unrest of the republican insiders is getting louder.

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  8. Wanna bet more and more of them "accidently" speak out

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  9. Wanna bet ...


    Oh right Vegas is already giving odds,

    Hey 'crusty', you are in Vegas and set the odds at time so your boss can cheat his customers,

    Help us all out;

    What are the odds that Palin quits vs the odds she is thrown under the bus?

    If you were gonna place a bet which would you bet on,

    quit vs under the bus?

    Or are you ones of those who throw good money after bad and wanna claim she is gonna win?

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  10. Wanna get greeted at the airport in St Paul by StJohnny of hanoi?

    Well get one of Sarah Palin's teenage daughters pregnant and you will have that chance;

    here's the pics

    That must be the all time most interesting "donation" to his campaign.

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  11. Oh and for all the news about the PUMA's which ended up to be a lot of hot air and relatively few people;

    What about the real convention controversy, the Ron Paul counter convention which is taking place in Minneapolis even if the corporate owned national MSM isn't reporting about it;

    Paul Plays Up Role as Party Outcast, With GOP Counter-Convention

    Texas Rep. Ron Paul played up his role as Republican Party outcast Tuesday, rallying thousands of supporters of his libertarian-leaning presidential bid at his own counter-convention in Minneapolis — just across the river from the official GOP convention.

    The congressman said he wasn’t trying to launch a splinter party, or commandeer the Republican National Convention, or overhaul the party platform.

    But he said he felt slighted by St. Paul convention planners, who he said gave him “second-class” access and restricted him from bringing his staff to their event. Paul was also denied a speaking slot.

    So while the St. Paul convention kicked back into high gear, after a day of strictly business out of respect for the victims of Hurricane Gustav, Paul and more than 10,000 supporters gathered for his day long “Rally for the Republic” — the capstone of three days of Paul-oriented festivities in the Twin Cities.


    10,000 people are at Ron Paul's convention, and the MSM can't find time to report about it, even though they could hunt down each and every PUMA fraud in Denver and give them air time?

    Wanna bet the republicans insiders in DC are a little worried about this?

    Oh right they have the Sarah Palin fiasco to deal with at the moment.

    It is considered real enough for these people to speak;

    Journalist Tucker Carlson spoke at the kick-off Tuesday. Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura and Grover Norquist, of Americans for Tax Reform, were also on the speaker’s list.

    Ron Paul got 1,200,000 votes and he isn't allowed the normal privileges at the RNC convention any other republican congressman gets, let alone the speaking privileges of a candidate.

    To compare who they let speak, Fred Thompson only got 286,000 votes in the primary.

    Joe Lieberman got ZERO votes .....


    BTW wanna bet this is why,

    RNC Day 2 Drew 4.3M Fewer Viewers Than DNC

    A much bigger protest against St Johnny of Hanoi in a real counter convention and a much smaller public viewing of the RNC convention, and the MSM wants us all to believe they can still win.

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  12. This is FUNNY;

    RNC Co-Chair: We are proud to be nominating Sarah Pawlenty

    “We are holding a convention that will nominate a Republican woman governor, Sarah Pawlenty, as our next Vice-President.”

    Was there a secret wedding we didn't hear about?

    There must have been because a google search of Sarah Pawlenty turns up this

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  13. BTW Sarah Palin is FOR censorship and against the fundamental constitutional rights all Americans used to enjoy before the Bush and the extreme right wing republicans cabal came to power.

    John Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving “full support” to the mayor.

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  14. BTW she must not have read the RNC McCain campaign daily talking points memo;

    McCain Co-Chair: Palin Coverage Fair, Not Sexist

    Meg Whitman, McCain's national campaign co-chair, veered off message in an interview with Fox, describing the media vetting of Palin as "completely fair" and saying there hasn't been sexism to speak of.

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  15. BTW don't tell me the McCain campaign ain't a graspin' at straws with the unqualified Palin pick, cause they read polls also;


    New Polls Have Obama Running Strong In Key States



    A new set of polls has good news for Barack Obama in four key battleground states:

    • In Iowa, which voted narrowly for George W. Bush in 2004, a new CNN poll has Obama ahead of John McCain by a 55%-40% margin.

    • In Minnesota, which went narrowly to Kerry, CNN has Obama up 53%-41%.

    • In Ohio, where President Bush's narrow 2004 win sealed his overall victory, the CNN poll gives Obama a 47%-45% edge, within the ±3.5% margin of error.

    • In North Carolina, which hasn't voted Dem since 1976, a Democracy Corps (D) poll gives John McCain a narrow advantage of 47%-44% -- and gives Democratic Senate challenger Kay Hagan a 50%-45% lead over GOP Senator Elizabeth Dole.

    If Obama's leads in Iowa and Ohio were to hold through November, it would be impossible for John McCain to win unless he could pick up some Kerry states.


    This is why st Johnny of Hanoi is going fur the trailor park vote by picken' Sarah Palin, her family reminds them of their own family, quite dysfunctional ...... it's about the only hope he has left the dysfunctional right wing crowd.

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  16. BTW Barack Obama has hit the magical 50% of the electorate mark in both the Gallop and Rasmussen polls.

    Gallop;

    8/30-9/1/08 McCain 42 Obama 50

    Rasmussen;

    8/31-9/2/08 McCain 45 Obama 50

    Barack Obama has sealed the deal with the vast majority of Hillary voters, so McCain has a undeniable task of finding enough independent voters to offset the very real advantage democrats have this year,

    Republicans 33.2%

    Democrats 38.9%

    I don't think he and his extreme right wing christian fundi POA VP pick can do it.

    Not with the more open minded independents.

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  17. It looks like Palin has her own Reverend Wright scandal coming up, she has attended Jews for Jesus meetings as recently as a couple of weeks ago where the pastor insisted that terrorist bombings in Israel were part of God's judgement for the Jew's rejection of Jesus.

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  18. St Johnny of hanoi's radical pick might be starting to back fire with the voters,

    More on McCain's Strategic Setback

    From some reader ...

    Conveniently, Gallup released new numbers this afternoon that allow us to quantify the divergent trends you've fingered. In the three days following Palin's selection, McCain brought his level of support among Republican women up five points to 90%, and eliminated his nagging gender gap. But that's just within the GOP. Independents and Democrats reacted to Palin's selection by turning to Obama - and his gains have more than offset McCain's, leaving him with a substantial lead.

    Looks like the hurricane the GOP should have been worried about this campaign season is named Sarah.

    In the words of Josh Marshal;

    First, the Democratic base is bigger than the Republican base. The number of self-identifying Democrats is substantially larger that the number of Republican-identifiers.

    Second, contrary to what we might have imagined earlier in the year, Republicans have already been substantially more united behind McCain than Democrats have been behind Obama. I would not have predicted that. But the polls have been extremely consistent on this point.

    In other words, the GOP 'base' was already substantially united behind McCain, subjective measures of intensity notwithstanding. The people who will win the election for McCain are disaffected Democrats and independents. In the context of 2008, a juicing-the-base strategy is a recipe for a respectable defeat, not victory.


    Looks like 2006 all over again.

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  19. More damage from hurricane Sarah to the GOP;

    Gallup: For Every Voter Palin Wins Over, Another Jumps To Obama



    A new polling analysis from Gallup suggests that John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin may have helped him solidify his support among Republican women -- but it may have also alienated other voters and made the whole thing a wash for now.

    Gallup's polling finds that McCain support among Republican women has increased from 85% to 90% in the last few days since Palin's selection. But on the other hand, his numbers have gone down among other groups: He's fallen by four points among independent men and three points with indy women, and is down by five points with Democratic men and two points with Dem women. So Palin hasn't really helped him so far.

    "Instead, the data suggest that McCain has in essence fought a rear-guard action of sorts among white women of his own GOP base," the analysis finds, "building their support to a degree even as he was losing support among independents and Democrats of both genders."


    Looks like her pick is starting to look like a right wing talking point that turns off most voters, except it is a real pick and very real voters are turning away from McCain-Palin.

    Hurricane Palin is now at least a category two in destruction for the GOP

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  20. Now it's the national enquirer;

    McCain Threatens To Sue National Enquirer, Over Report That Sarah Palin Had Affair With Her Husband's Business Partner...YUP! YUP!

    One thingie you gotta remember,

    They were right about Edwards affair .........

    Her nomination just get curiouser and curiouser .......

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  21. Here is the National Enquirer's response;

    The National Enquirer's coverage of a vicious war within Sarah Palin's extended family includes several newsworthy revelations, including the resulting incredible charge of an affair plus details of family strife when the Governor's daughter revealed her pregnancy. Following our John Edwards' exclusives, our political reporting has obviously proven to be more detail-oriented than the McCain campaign's vetting process. Despite the McCain camp's attempts to control press coverage they find unfavorable, The Enquirer will continue to pursue news on both sides of the political spectrum.

    The national Enquirer is better at checking facts about Hurricane Palin then St Johnny of Hanoi?

    Bhahwhahwahwhahwhwaaaaaa .....

    That is a good one .... and true it seems.

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  22. The terms "religious fascism" and "Christian fascism" are historically inaccurate oxymorons. Deploying such overused nonsensical terms undermines your prose. Fascism is an ATHEIST creed. Its founding father, Benito Mussolini, was an ATHEIST.

    His buddy, Adolf Hitler, did believe in a God. However, he repudiated Christianity as a hoax perpetrated by the Jews in order to make European men weak and effeminate. However, he did admire Islam, and a lot of Muslims reciprocated his affection by fighting for the Nazis, including Saddam Hussein's relatives in Iraq, and Yasser Arafat's uncle, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who raised a Muslim SS division comprised of Bosnians and Kosovars.

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  23. Sarah Palin seems to be a typical republican;

    Wasilla, whose annual budget of $5 Million is just at John McCain’s income threshold for a single middle-class family, was debt-free when Palin became mayor.

    When she left six years later, the town was over $20 Million in debt despite receiving $27 Million in earmarks.


    Lets see an annual budget of 5 million

    Add an average of 4,5 million each year in earmarks,

    She still loses 20 million in five years.

    Damn she is WORSE then any Washington republican has ever been in budget matters,

    But Bush and the con-republicans did their best.

    BTW .... Somebody needs to tell her, all that money from China isn't an earmark.

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  24. Fascism is an ATHEIST creed.

    Sorry Jeff, but you left out the longest serving fascist dictator in Europe, Francisco Franco of Spain, February 5, 1939 – June 9, 1973, was Catholic, and last time I checked they are considered Christians.

    Franco was definitely on the side of Italy and Germany in WW2;

    During the Second World War, Franco maintained a policy of non-beligerency, although he did assist Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy on a small scale against the Soviet Union, most famously by sending troops (known as the Blue Division) to aid Nazi Germany in fighting the Soviet Union.

    So your delusional argument falls well short of being true.

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  25. A new set of polls has good news for Barack Obama in four key battleground states
    -clippy

    Translation:
    1) Iowa narrowly voted Republican but now strongly for Obama
    2) Minnesota voted Democrat and still leans that way
    3) Ohio voted Republican but now too close to call
    4) North Carolina has always been Democrat, but now could vote for McCain

    Well, I wouldn't suggest the dhimmis count their pork-barrel transfer payments yet.

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  26. Why are the libs so scared of a
    hockey mom from Alaska? Why on earth does this woman scare them so much?What could it be?

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  27. Joe Klein seems to understand why Sarah Palin is not what the GOP spin machine says she is;

    it is important for the public to know that Palin raised taxes as governor, supported the Bridge to Nowhere before she opposed it, pursued pork-barrel projects as mayor, tried to ban books at the local library and thinks the war in Iraq is “a task from God.”

    Only the truly delusional kool aid drinkers will try to dispose the real truth about her as media spin.

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  28. What has BHO done?Nothing...nada,nada.

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  29. After Palin's speech in a few mintues, read my update on the blog: Dr. Laura of all people thinks Palin is a terrible choice BECAUSE of her personal life -- because the family must come first, and the young children must come first. Also because the personal life of a candidate IS important as role model for young people.

    Obama is a constitutional scholar with expertise in international relations.

    Palin, according to FOX and Cindy McCain is qualified to make international decisions because Alaska is close to Russia!

    These people are really reaching...

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  30. Oh my frickin god, this frickin little twit sounds like an airhead prom queen or somethin.

    Instead of talking about real issues the inexperienced skank talks about high school over and over, talk about an empty frickin suit,

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  31. Well she told the OUT RIGHT LIE again in a nationally televised speech,

    She never told congress NO thanks.

    She FOUGHT to get the earmarks but most importantly the MONEY after the congress knew they could never approve the bridge to no where.

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  32. Forget the prior question....I now know why you're scared.

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  33. RustyRidesAgain (whoever the hell THAT is) said: Why are the libs so scared of a hockey mom from Alaska? Why on earth does this woman scare them so much?What could it be?


    Perhaps that the hockey mom from Alasks could very possibly become the leader of the free world. Perhaps it's because one of the loudest claims of her experience being trumpeted is that she was in the PTA. So we're asking somebody who's used to organizing bake sales and selling raffle tickets to transition to hammering out nuclear arm treaties and intimidating hostile nations.

    The real question, RRA, is why aren't YOU more scared of the hockey mom from Alaska?

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  34. Scared crusty, You have me confused with "freedum fraud" the day his draft notice arrived.

    Remember he quickly decided to get a college deferment, and joined ROTC guarding the parade ground against the Vietcong.

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  35. Oh, and about this whole tax thing. We have two candidates -- one of who is on the record as saying he will cut taxes for 90% of Americans,

    The other one is on the record of saying he will INCREASE taxes of middle class Americans by making employer-provided insurance taxable income.

    How the hell do these people get away with claming Obama will raise our taxes?

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  36. And of course YOU when ever YOU think about any service beyond fixing the bets to cheat the American public at your bosses casino.

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  37. mch the same way Sarah Palin gets her approval rating diggin' the oil corps deeper to give every Alaskan a government sponsored hand out, but the right wingers won't ever admit that one either.

    That hand out comes outa our pocket every time we fill up at the pumps.

    But the lying GOPers will try to hide that socialism part of her real bad.

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  38. Can you guys like imagine a 3AM ad run about Sara Palin. How would ya like to see that stupid little twit anser the phone at 3AM during a world crisis.

    Your right mch, that would frickin scare the crap out of me.

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  39. This frickin twit was talkin about high school basketball, and high school sweethearts, and being a pta mom and soccer mom, and her hubby ridin a snow machine, is that who you frickin want to deal with a terrorist attack or that Putin dude from Russia in a nuclear crisis.

    Just wonderin, wtf is a snow machine, is that like a snocone machine or some kinda Eskimo sex toy or somthin.

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  40. But sara according to the dumb as dirt wingnuits she is ready on day one to stand toe to toe with Putin.


    trust me on this one;


    She'd wet her panties and run for Alaska real quick.

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  41. MCH said...
    Oh, and about this whole tax thing. We have two candidates -- one of who is on the record as saying he will cut taxes for 90% of Americans,

    The other one is on the record of saying he will INCREASE taxes of middle class Americans by making employer-provided insurance taxable income.

    How the hell do these people get away with claming Obama will raise our taxes?............."


    Cool beans dude, at last another real progressive besides Lydia and Clif who actually seems to care about real frickin issues like free health care and free education for normal people.

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  42. Again I ask,why do you seem so damn concerned about Sarah Palin?I mean if BHO is so qualified why be troubled over this hockey mom.
    Why would'nt you be trumpeting the virtues of BHO rather then throwing rocks at this woman?Why would'nt you be expounding on BHO's plans for energy independence,tax relief,increased employment,healthcare and so on and so on.Instead you spend your time trying to find or manufacture something about Sarah Palin.
    Seems to me a waste of energy.

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  43. Oh Sara, I could write you a whole dissertation on my feeling about free health care.

    Nice to meet you. I pop in and out of here every so often to keep track of what's going on and occasionally picking fights with Voltron

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  44. crusty, since this light weight has been an UNKNOWN until St Johnny of Hanoi pulled her selection outa his ass, we are interested just how much the gop spin machine is LYING about her.

    and from what we have found so far;

    One hell of a lot.

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  45. Rustyridesagain said...Seems to me a waste of energy................."


    Well dude, i'll defer to your frickin expertise on being a waste of energy.

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  46. She ain't what the GOP spin machine is tryin' to sell her as.

    Not even close.

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  47. Idiot said: Why would'nt you be trumpeting the virtues of BHO rather then throwing rocks at this woman?Why would'nt you be expounding on BHO's plans for energy independence,tax relief,increased employment,healthcare and so on and so on.Instead you spend your time trying to find or manufacture something about Sarah Palin.



    Actually I do expound on Obama's experience and progressive ideas. I'm a volunteer for his campaign, as a matter of fact, and our policy is we promote Obama/Biden -- and that's all that we do. Here I would essentially be preaching to the choir (that's a church reference, by the way -- I know you conservatives frequently only pretend to understand religion)

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  48. Crusty a waste of energy is YOU posting here about anything.

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  49. Go back to the pink pajama circle jerk romper room and tell each other lies about how good things are going fur ya all.

    It is all ya got left about now.

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  50. Klink,I ask you,instead of cutting and pasting negitive articles about Sarah Palin why would'nt you be posting BHO's plan for energy independence,healthcare for all or perhaps a strong military?It seems to me that would be more fruitful then an outright arrack on a mom of five.

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  51. Or write more lIES about people you know nothing at all about.

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  52. sorry son but THIS week is the GOPer lie fest son, so I'm working to inject a little TRUTH into it.

    Seems ya got a little problem with the truth

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  53. MCH said...
    Oh Sara, I could write you a whole dissertation on my feeling about free health care.

    Nice to meet you. I pop in and out of here every so often to keep track of what's going on and occasionally picking fights with Voltron............"


    I knew i liked you dude, anyone who picks fights with that troglodyte goon Voltron and is passionate about health care and education is A OK in my book.

    Have you frickin noticed how he pretends to be a frickin champion of women's honor like mcLOSER the guy that finds women getting raped amusing but is a total condescending chauvinist to Lydia and me.

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  54. I guess you deal with lies so much you don't realize most people want the truth ...........

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  55. You folks are really so damn sad....you have nothing but hate.

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  56. Idiot also said: You folks are really so damn sad....you have nothing but hate.


    Um ... hatred and sadness are two different emotions so if we have nothing but hate then we couldnt be sad. You want to pick one?

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  57. Wanna know something FUNNY;

    The speech was written BEFORE McInsane revealed who his loser VP pick would be;

    Putting Words in Palin’s Mouth

    There was a flutter of attention when McCain campaign manager Rick Davis told a group of Post reporters and editors yesterday that his team was having to rework the vice presidential acceptance speech because the original draft, prepared before Gov. Sarah Palin was chosen, was too “masculine.” While we all wondered to ourselves what might make a speech masculine or feminine, no one batted an eye at the underlying revelation: that the campaign was writing the nominee’s speech before knowing who the nominee would be.

    So we got THEIR version of her again.

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  58. Rustyridesagain said...
    You folks are really so damn sad....you have nothing but hate.............."


    Sorry dude but thats supposed to be our line to you.

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  59. She didn't write her own speech just adapted theirs to her life.

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  60. More right wing half truths and spin to fool the sheeple again too bad the sheeple they can fool is getting smaller and smaller each election cycle.

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  61. Sarah Palin: good speech reader.

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  62. BTW here are three out right falsehoods in Sarah Palin's speech;

    I suspended the state fuel tax, and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress.


    McCain had criticized earmarks from Palin


    Three times in recent years, the Arizona senator's lists of 'objectionable' pork spending have included earmarks requested by his new running mate..

    It would help if her running mate hadn't been against the earmarks she was for.

    I told the Congress “thanks, but no thanks,” for that Bridge to Nowhere.

    Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans

    It garnered big applause in her first speech as Republican John McCain's vice presidential pick, but Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's assertion that she rejected Congressional funds for the so-called "bridge to nowhere" has upset many Alaskans.

    During her first speech after being named as McCain's surprise pick as a running mate, Palin said she had told Congress "'thanks but no thanks' on that bridge to nowhere."

    In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional delegation during her run for governor.


    Seems she is as clueless about how the tubes retain history, even if the GOP spin machine tries to erase it.

    If our state wanted a bridge, we’d build it ourselves. When oil and gas prices went up dramatically, and filled up the state treasury, I sent a large share of that revenue back where it belonged - directly to the people of Alaska.

    In Alaska, Everyone's An Oil Baron

    She was more about making sure the dividend check from the Alaskan fund is bigger to help her approval rating, then hurting the oil corps her hubby works for.

    So much for truth from her eh?

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  63. Lydia Cornell said...

    "Sarah Palin: good speech reader."


    So's Barry.
    (David Axelrod anyone?)

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  64. If you folks are so enthralled and positive about BHO why on earth,instead of degrading McCain or Palin would'nt you be posting why you're so excited about BHO's energy policy,his healthcare policy or his war on terror policy?
    Perhaps Klink could post BHO's healthcare policy and how he intends to pay for it.
    Maybe Mike could post BHO's energy policy?
    And Sara could post on BHO's stance on the war on terror.

    Dont you for a minute think speaking about BHO's policy more benificial then throwing rocks?

    Then again maybe you dont.

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  65. Yo Voltron, Barack Obama WRITES his speech especially the one he delivered on Aug 28th 2008, you know the one which convinced Hillary's 18 million supporters Barack was for real,

    Sarah Palin does read the speech written FOR her, even before her pick was pulled outa St Johnny ass, real good.

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  66. Sorry crusty but tonight is the speech she lied so much IN, and you can't derail us from exposing her for the FRAUD she is.

    The GOP is gonna go down this year even worse then 2006 ....

    deal with it son.

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  67. Sarah Palin LIED to the American public and is gonna get called on it by the press,

    Hope you enjoy the next couple of days.

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  68. Didnt like Sara Palin support the bridge to no where before she was like against it?

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  69. Update on blog thread: PALIN SLASHED FUNDING FOR TEEN MOMS AND SENIORS....

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  70. Sorry Clif, but your shallow "analysis" of modern European history is the only diatribe riddled with delusion and ignorance of the truth. Franco was a right-wing dictator, but he was NOT a "fascist." The word "Fascist" is nothing more than the name of the political party established in Italy by Mussolini. Using "fascist" as a generic term for anyone with politics to the right of Ted Kennedy is like using the term "Stalinist" as a word for all leftists.

    Franco allowed Spanish volunteers to participate in the USSR because he was anti-Communist and because the USSR had aided his enemies during the Spanish Civil War. Considering the fact that Stalin's body count was much higher than Hitler's, it's kind of difficult to get too outraged at this gesture. A lot of Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Finns, Georgians, and other nationalities also fought alongside the Germans in the USSR simply because they hated Stalin, for good reason.

    Franco refused to join the Axis Powers and balked at Hitler's request to utilize Spanish ports for German warships. Franco also refused to participate in the Holocaust and even granted asylum for Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution in France. Spanish aloofness toward the Third Reich eventually led the Nazis to repudiate Franco for his "treacherous" behavior. The Allies never invaded Spain because they realized a fact that you seem unable to grasp: Spain was a NEUTRAL country during WWII.

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  71. The word "Fascist" is nothing more than the name of the political party established in Italy by Mussolini. Using "fascist" as a generic term for anyone with politics to the right of Ted Kennedy is like using the term "Stalinist" as a word for all leftists.


    Jeff, Merriam Webster on line dictionary would disagree with ya son.:

    a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

    By that definition Franco WAS a fascist.


    Scholarly studies like;

    Latin Fascist Elites: The Mussolini, Franco, and Salazar Regimes. by Paul H. Lewis,

    consider Franco a fascist,but I guess you would beg to differ eh?

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  72. I would agree that after the defeat of Italy and Germany in WW2 Franco moved away from the roots of his movement which was fascist in the Spanish Civil War, to something which still has fascist leanings but was more palatable in the post war world .... but he started out fighting for the fascist cause helped by the other two fascist countries of the 1930's

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  73. I guess wall Street wasn't as enamored by the speech McSame's VP POA pick gave as the kool-aid addled clowns are, it dropped 210 points today so far.


    Interesting eh?

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  74. Well the republicans are having a little problem in Minneapolis finding the truth as usual;

    here are some examples.

    PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

    THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

    PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."

    THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

    PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

    THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

    Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

    He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

    MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

    THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

    MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

    THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

    FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

    THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

    FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

    THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

    Seems lies distortion and right wing spin is still their stock in trade.

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  75. Actually to be fair to sarah palin, maybe Wall Street is reacting to the fact St Johnny of Hanoi is speaking tonight.

    Which might be the reason the Dow is down 244 points right now.

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  76. Ooooo. Sarah is just a "MILF". An eeevil sinister Christian. Sarah hates children and tortures puppies ... but also uses her veto power to control government spending. That's the ultimate Liberal apostacy.

    Libs: Be afraid. Be very afraid.

    Palin is a star. Conservatives luv her and the independents can identify with her. I just sent a campaign contribution for the max.

    You haven't heard the last from Sarah Palin regardless of the outcome of this election. She easily will become the first woman President in U.S. history. Hillary's career is toast; her dreams, of confiscating all the tax revenue from the village for big government bureaucrats, is over; Hillary is the moose in Sarah's 30-06 crosshairs. Sarah is the new face of American politics.

    Palin! Palin! Palin!

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  77. Freedom Fan said...

    Palin is a star. Conservatives luv her and the independents can identify with her

    Really? Lets see what a few conservatives REALLY think about her, when they THINK the microphone is turned off.

    Here's a conversation caught on camera, when Mike Murphy, Peggy Noonan and Chuck Todd all thought the camera was off, while discussing the Palin nomination.


    Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys -- this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it's not gonna work. And --

    PN: It's over.

    MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.

    CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too.

    PN: Saw Kay this morning.

    CT: Yeah, she's never looked comfortable about this --

    MM: They're all bummed out.

    CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?

    PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this -- excuse me-- political bullshit about narratives --

    CT: Yeah they went to a narrative.

    MM: I totally agree.

    PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it.

    MM: You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.

    CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky.

    MM: Yeah.



    Yea Frightened Fan, they really love her, huh?

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  78. She's another idiot, like the rest of the idiots you idiots worship.

    She's so stupid, she didn't even know what the Vice Presidents does.

    “As for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?”

    -Sarah Palin

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  79. Not knowing what the job consists of in any business in America rules out your qualifications for that job.

    Except in the republican camp, where incompetency and stupidity are the prerequisites for filling any role.

    And Sarah Palin, or "SARIN" as I like to call her, has proven her utter incompetency and stupidity already, making her the perfect candidate for the republican VP nominee.

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  80. Bartlebee, just proves even Peggie Noonan can be wrong.

    Hey, tune in tonite to watch O'Reilly eviscerate the Obamanation. I'll hafta admit tho' the guy still has balls (despite jesse-shakedown-jackson's best efforts).

    Can't wait until my Sarah impales ol' Plugs and McCain flays Obambi. What great theatre.

    Besides, why are you dhimmis even bothering? Didn't you insist that Diebold controls the elections?

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  81. This just in:

    Sarah Palin had over 37 million viewers for her killer speech.

    Obambi's silly Greek festival had about the same.

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  82. Freedom Fart said...

    Bartlebee, just proves even Peggie Noonan can be wrong.


    So to an inbred, she's right when she's reading rehearsed rhetoric, and wrong when she's speaking her mind candidly?

    As was Chuck Todd?

    He's also wrong when the camera is OFF him, but right when its on him?

    Ok, fine. But I do have one question.

    :|

    Does it hurt being as stupid as you?

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  83. Clearly its you who are "afraid" Freedom Fan. And I am sure this has something to do with it.

    From the Guardian UK.

    Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush administration· Biden says criminal violations will be pursued


    Vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said earlier this week that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.

    Biden’s comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

    But his statements represent the Democrats’ strongest vow so far this year to investigate alleged misdeeds committed during the Bush years.

    When asked during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, whether he would “pursue the violations that have been made against our Constitution by the present administration”, Biden answered in the affirmative.

    “We will not be stopped from pursuing any criminal offence that’s occurred,” he continued, going on to praise congressional committees for the deliberate pace of their inquiries into alleged Bush administration misdeeds.

    Members of Congress are “doing the right thing, they’re not making false accusations about anything … they’re collecting data, subpoenaing records, they’re building a file”, Biden said.

    “If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued – not out of vengeance, not out of retribution, out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president — no one is above the law

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  84. Freedom Fart said...

    Hey, tune in tonite to watch O'Reilly eviscerate the Obamanation. I'll hafta admit tho' the guy still has balls


    He sure does.

    :|

    Unfortunately they're in his mouth.

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  85. We'll have to change his name to "Ball" O'reilly.

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  86. By the way, a lot of viewers of Palins speech were not necessarily supporters, but the curious.

    And of course, Obama's speech drew in 40 million viewers, which in mathematics, equals more.

    Just like his historic crowds that he draws wherever he goes.

    Obama is a star.

    Sara Palin is merely a novelty that will quickly wane as she opens her mouth.

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  87. BARTLEBEE said...
    By the way, a lot of viewers of Palins speech were not necessarily supporters, but the curious."

    You nailed that one Bart, I watched her for a little bit late last night and all i can say is she fits in well with McSame...............Dumb and Dumber!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  88. Those posts say all you NEED to know about this pathetic joke of a ticket..............MM and Peggy Noonan's post shows what Right Wingers in the know REALLY think about Sarah Palin, and Palin's OWN quote showing she has NO CLUE what a Vice President even does says ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID about her so called qualifications.

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  89. You know what's hilarious?

    The wingnuts USED to screech about being JUST a speech.

    They used to screech about inexperience.

    One week and a piss poor pick later, they seem to have over dosed on the kool-aid and a speech rather well delivered, BUT not written by a flash in the pan extreme right winger.


    She has very little experience, mayor of a town of less then 8000, and governor for 17 months ..... she only got her passport last year and has only made ONE trip outside of the US but probably to her and her AIP hubby coming to America from Alaska is probably a foreign trip.


    She lies with no regret (at the moment) about earmarks, the bridge to nowhere, cutting taxes and it looks like troopergate among the brewing scandals she is under in Alaska.


    One freakin speech and freedum fraud spends the max?

    Damn he's a real good accountant comin' from him you'd a thunk Sarah Palin had replaced St Johnny of Hanoi at the top of the soon to lose GOPer ticket.

    Fivethirtyeight.com has the election outcome at 310 electoral votes for Obama and 248 electoral votes for McCain.

    538's close states are;

    Leans slightly Obama;

    Colorado, 2 points to Obama, Ohio 1.3 points to Obama, Virginia 1.9 points to Obama.

    Leans slightly McCain;



    Montana 1.6 points to McCain, North Carolina 2.3 points to McCain, Florida 1.6 points to McCain.

    Nevada is seen as evenly split at the moment.

    Interestingly all states Bush won, so McCain is defending republican wins, Obama has all Kerry and Gore states solidly in his column,

    Pollster.com has it at Obama 260 electoral votes, McCain 179 electoral votes with 99 remaining to be split.

    Pollsters states are;

    Nevada, Montana, North Dakota, Colorado, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, and New Hampshire, all bush states in 2000 and 2004 with the exception of New Hampshire which went for Gore

    In both polls McCain is behind, and defending states Bush won, and Obama has made serious inroads in many of them, see 538 to see where.

    Sarah Palin ain't really gonna change much, however in 2016 when the next open election is fought, it will be interesting to see if she even registers at all, after this year and her scandals plays out. Remember in 2004 the nominal front runners were McCain, Santarum, Allen and possibly Frist. Four short years later three of them didn't even try.

    Rasmussen has the race Obama 50% McCain 45%, and Gallop has the race Obama 49% McCain 42%, 6 days AFTER the Palin pick was rolled out so there is NO Palin bump at all, however their might be a slight convention bump.

    What is most noticeable is McCain already had about 90% of the republican party behind him while until after the convention Obama didn't break 80% of the democratic party support. The Hillary voters didn't seal the deal for the most part till after Obama's historic speech. they have moved for the most part behind Obama and that is why Obama's numbers are rising.

    This fall the right wing is playing defense, and losing it seems at it.

    Election night watch Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida.

    If McCain wins all four like bush did both times, he will be OK, however one win by Obama and McCain has problems, and two wins and the election is OVER because losing two of the four means McCain can't find a way to win in the 2008 cycle.

    I predict Obama will win at least two.

    This year will be interesting, but McCain is fighting the bush legacy, lingering corruption by the Washington republican insiders, a bad economy for the middle class, and higher fuel prices, that the normal right wing meme is being undercut by T Boone Pickens which means they won't be able to get traction from it.

    If the vote comes down to who has more experience in energy, Sarah Palin loses to T Boone every time, and worse then McCain and her are going to lose to Obama-Biden.

    2008 is an anti-republican election cycle, and a political neophyte from Alaska ain't gonna buck that trend, especially with the looming scandals and questionable stands she claims in deference to what is being revealed about her real history .....

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  90. BTW Jack Abramoff got 4 years for his corruption charges.

    Maybe Clueless Georgie will pardon him.

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  91. This ain't gonna help sell St Sarah as a reformer on St Johnny's ticket;

    Bull

    As you know, despite earlier promises to the contrary, Sarah Palin is now refusing to cooperate with the trooper-gate investigation. Her lawyer now says she will refuse to be deposed unless the head of the current investigation relinquishes control and hands the investigation over to the state Personnel Board made up of three of Gov. Palin's appointees. We've been trying to see whether Palin's argument has any merit under Alaska law. And the former Alaska Attorney General we just spoke to told us, in essence, that it's a bunch of bunk.

    Not surprising, since the whole gambit is an effort to push any depositions out past the election.


    With all the stonewalling of Bushco Criminal inc. in Washington, this won't play well especially if middle class America starts to see her as just another extension of the republicans who break the law and demand they are above it.

    With eight weeks to get the news she is going back on her word and trying every trick in the bag to hide her criminal activities, she could quickly turn to Mud for St Johnny while he is trying to get traction in this shortened cycle.

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  92. And the biggest unintended effect that the Sarah Palin pick might have is that Hillary has something to defend her supporters, and she don't want them switching to a political lightweight from Alaska with a questionable background, so Hillary might become a bigger player in this cycle to keep her hard won supporters behind her for her future plans, and if Hillary feels threatened watch out the BIG DOG will come out with a strong defense of her, and Obama by extension painting Palin and NOT a true Bubba like he is.

    Palin could be what it takes to make the Clintons realize they have a very real stake in THIS election.

    In that way it could backfire on St Johnny real bad.

    Because only Obama has ever beat the Clinton machine ... republicans seems not to be able to do that.

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  93. BTW drunk on the kool aid wing nuts aside quite a few independent voters in focus grouops really weren't impressed last night;

    Thumbs Down

    I'm certainly not saying this will be the across the board response. And self-identified Republicans loved Palin's speech. But a focus group of Michigan independents did not like it.

    Late Update: Focus groups of female undecideds in Nevada didn't seem to like it either.


    Doesn't bode well if the non kool aid drinkers weren't all that impressed .....

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  94. BTW the democrats are smart with their rolling out Women Democratic governors to criticize the light weight Gov of Alaska and her acting performance in last night's speech.

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  95. Jon Stewert nails the right wing hypocrissy .....

    KKarl Rove, Bill O'Rielly, Dick Morris, Nancy Pfotenhauer, have egg on their faces and Stewart even Sarah Palin words to fry those eggs........

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  96. Things are heating up in parts of Alaska.

    No not global warming again;

    It's TROOPERGATE part deux;

    New Complaint Against Palin on Trooper-Gate

    Sarah Palin could be facing another investigation in relation to Trooper-Gate.

    NBC News reports that the police officer's union of Alaska has filed an ethics complaint on behalf of Mike Wooten, the trooper who was embroiled in a dispute with the Palin family, and who the governor is alleged to have attempted to have fired.

    According to NBC News:

    The complaint alleges that the governor or her staff may have have improperly disclosed information from Wooten's personnel records. The complaint alleges "criminal penalties may apply."

    The union argues that recordings of a phone conversation involving Palin-aide Frank Bailey -- released last month as part of the Attorney General's own Trooper-Gate probe -- suggested that Wooten's records were accessed improperly.


    Now Sarah Palin can try the republican version of executive privilege to try to keep the citizens of her state from getting their day in court that Bush-Cheney have used so much of in the last 7 1/2 years.

    She is turning out to be a regular right wing hypocrite republican more and more each day.

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  97. Looks like another lie form last night exposed;

    GOP Convention: Palin Sold Alaska Jet at a Loss, and Not on eBay

    EBay got a huge plug last night when, trying to depict herself as a tight-fisted reformer, GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said she put a state jet on eBay.

    But the Westwind II jet never sold on eBay.

    According to PolitiFact, the plane, bought by her Republican predecessor whom she beat in 2006, was listed for sale three times on the San Jose internet auction giant. But no one ever met the minimum bid. The plane was listed with an asking price of $2.5 million in 2007. The state had paid just under $2.7 million for it in 2005.

    Finally, the state turned to an aircraft broker, who sold the jet to an Alaskan businessman for $2.1 million.


    Seems half her biggest cheers were for lies she told.

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  98. Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius seems to disagree with St Sarah's speech;

    "I live in the American heartland, and have been a governor [here] for six years," she said. "I don't know any mayor in any small town in Kansas -- and we have a lot of mayors of small towns -- who hires a lobbyist and goes after earmarks the way Sarah Palin did."

    On Tuesday, the Washington Post reported that, as mayor of Wasilla, Palin secured more than $27 million in federal earmarks for a town with only 6,700 residents.

    Truth-o-cution part 37.

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  99. I did'nt get a chance to watch much of the democratic convention last week so perhaps someone who did could answer my question.
    Did John Edwards make a speech last week?I know Kerry was on the adgenda but I was wondering what the 2004 VP candidate had to say if he did speak.Did he talk about the two americas?Did he mention the number of vets who are homeless?Did he say how proud he was of his wife and her fight with cancer?I must have missed his speech.

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  100. Absolutely BEST quote about St Sarah's speech;

    Jesus Christ was a community organizer... Pontius Pilate was a governor.

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  101. No crusty John Edwards didn't speak to the convention just like Tom Delay, George Allen, Ricky Santarum, Bill Frist, Dick Cheney didn't speak to the republican convention.

    BTW liar isn't Dick Cheney the SITTING VP not the losing candidate.

    Him not appearing seems a little bigger then John Edwards NOT appearing.

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  102. Fascism?: "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition": That definition is sooo vague, it could apply to almost any despot who has ever appeared in history, including all those great leftist heroes, Lenin, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Castro, Hugo Chavez, etc. It just goes to show that dictionary editors are not necessarily thoughtful historical scholars.

    I prefer to heed the observations offered by that notorious right-wing ideologue, George Orwell: "The word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’."

    When Stalin and Trotsky fell out after Lenin's death, they both called each other "fascist," so which one was correct? Both? Neither? Same deal when the Kremlin was at loggerheads with Red China in the early 1960s, when the two Communist regimes compared each other to Hitler.

    And behold the insight of one of the most distinguished experts in modern Spanish history, Dr. Stanley G. Payne, whose books in the 1960s were BANNED by Franco, indicating that this guy was not exactly a right-wing stooge: "scarcely any of the serious historians and analysts of Franco consider the generalissimo to be a core fascist." Franco's rightist coalition that he had established in the 1930s did include the Falangists, which shared many characteristics with Mussolini's Fascist Party, but that was but one faction among others that also included monarchists and other Spaniards who simply did not like Communists and anarchists.

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  103. Jeff, we can play dueling experts all you want, BUT Franco was seen as a fascist at the time, and sided with the other fasict regimes of Europe at the time UNTIL he realized they would lose.

    He wanted to take Gibraltar himself until he realized that would open the canary islands to British attack and he had NO way to defend them.

    Franco was a surviver first and ally second.

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  104. BTW the Dow dropped 340 points today, was it the speech St Sarah gave, or the speech St Johnny of Hanoi is gonna give which spooked Wall Street?

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  105. Its the notion that McCain\Palin could win that scared the investors clif.

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  106. John McCain's speech in one line;

    “My friends, my first wife knows me as an adulterer. My current wife knows me as a possible adulterer. The administration knows me as a puppet. The media knows me as Mr. Grumpypants. But tonight, you, my friends, will know me as Captain Bullshit.”

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  107. CLIF - that is hilarious!

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  108. St Sarah of Wasilla is having unintended effects already;

    Palin raises $8 million — for Obama

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  109. Wait till they catch McCain tapping her in the green room.

    Then folks will know why he picked Palin.

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  110. When they catch him in the act he'll probably say "Hey, I was just vetting her"

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  111. Bart what is the history of a VP candidate filling a sexual harassment suit against her running mate?

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  112. BARTLEBEE said...
    Wait till they catch McCain tapping her in the green room.

    Then folks will know why he picked Palin.........."


    Can he like get that much frickin Viagra?

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  113. BARTLEBEE said...
    Wait till they catch McCain tapping her in the green room.

    Then folks will know why he picked Palin............"


    He picked the little frickin twit cause he's a senile old pervert.

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  114. With his wifes connections on the black drug market probably Sara but she might figger it out then.

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  115. It's sad when you give a speech and they can create a whole webpage about the lies you told in that speech.

    Palin vs Reality

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  116. I just made another frickin contribution to Obama, he's our only frickin hope.

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  117. How come like Sara Palin didnt say like a frickin word about her policies or what she's gonna do for the country.

    All she did was like babble about high school, and her family and like bash Obama, it made me nauseos that a frickin bubble head like that is actually there for the purpose of stealin the women vote from the dems.

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  118. Lydia, where the hell did all these frickin goons like Rusty, Voltront etc... come from?

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  119. Damn where are the cheering thongs for Grampa McGrumpy's stirring speech,

    Oh right they dozed off.

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  120. It’s been almost 20 minutes and NO illogical kool-aid drenched bombastic statements?

    Damn McGrumpy is better then “sominex” isn’t he?

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  121. A question for the lemmings:

    If in fact you are so enthralled
    over BHO,why do you spend the vast majority of your supposedly valuable time denigrating the opposition rather then extolling the virtues of Obama?Just curious,I thought you'd rather be talking about his policy for universal healthcare,energy independance and national security.Oh,and how he intends to pay for it.
    Dont you think that more fruitful then attacks?
    Oh,silly me,its just the 4 or 5 of you having a chat.

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  122. Poor, poor, crusty the clown still don't get it,

    we discuss what we want,

    Obama is doing FINE

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  123. But it's nice to see you woke up from you McCain induced nap.

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  124. This is NOT the Barack Obama website,

    the answers you keep asking for are there,

    GO read young man you might actually learn something son.

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  125. here ya go crusty;

    Barack's website

    where all the answers you seek reside son,

    go forth and seek knowledge son,

    maybe it'll help ya with your kool aid addiction.

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  126. Old cut and paste Klink.....which of Obams policies are you personally most excited about? Can you name one?Hurry up,no time to cut and paste....its all up to you Klink.

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  127. Come on twinkie....what about Obamas policys has you so damn excited.Hurry up you're running out of time.

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  128. Come on Klink your fans are watching

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  129. Sorry crusty but if ya want to learn about the issues GO to the web site of Obama the answers are there, I just want the lying cheating criminals in the republican party frog marched out of DC into prison, like they should be.

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  130. Cant you come up with anything.

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  131. So deal with the fact I refuse to play you juvenile games loser.

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  132. Cause all your vitriol is wasted here and has always been wasted here crusty.

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  133. Ah,yes Klink revert to calling it a juvinile game.The fact is,once again,with out someones elses words you have nothing to say.You're sorry Klink.

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  134. thereturnofRusty said...
    A question for the lemmings:

    If in fact you are so enthralled
    over BHO,why do you spend the vast majority of your supposedly valuable time denigrating the opposition rather then extolling the virtues of Obama?Just curious,I thought you'd rather be talking about his policy for universal healthcare,energy independance and national security.Oh,and how he intends to pay for it.
    Dont you think that more fruitful then attacks?
    Oh,silly me,its just the 4 or 5 of you having a chat................"


    Screw your frickin wars and screw your national security crap you war mongerin goon, no true progressive gives a crap about that conservotard garbage. We want free national health care and free education.

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  135. Sorry BOZO but i ain't playin' the dumb assed right wing gotcha game, so go back to voltron's romper room and spread lies or claim the hollow victory you think you win son, your just another of the troglodyte volkstrum that is becoming more irrelevant to the future of this country.

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  136. Come on tell everyone your favorite Obama policy,why its your favorite and how it will be paid for.

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  137. Klink,I guess it does'nt bother you to look like a fool....kinda like the muster out thing.

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  138. Good luck in four and eight years as MORE of the right wing OLD and very OLD supporters pass away and NO young new voters replace them but the democratic party is GROWING not shrinking son.

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  139. Klink....you're really a sorry sack of shit.

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  140. Hurry...cut and paste someones words.Hurry...whats you favorite Obama policy? Got an answer?

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  141. Sorry son BUT you look like the foole spreading LIES like you do, and I told ya where the answers you seek are, MY personal opinion ain't for your twisted amusement but the reason I'm willing to help the person I think has the future NOT the past in his campaign.

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  142. I gotta Klink....You're to stupid,to easy a target.

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  143. NEW BLOG THREAD UP about McCain divorcing himself from his party and a great quote from a true Conservative.

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  144. What's the matta crusty can't find anything REAL to say, just refried old lies and personal attacks ?

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  145. You're so YESTERDAY crusty, go back to the romper room and declare victory again, I'ts about all ya got left.

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  146. Easy target for what Rusty.

    The misfiring of that black marble rolling around inside your cranium?

    You sound like a 12 year old who snuck onto your parents computer when they weren't looking.

    You have no substance, no brain, just a big mouth little balls, and a whole lot of someone elses time to waste.

    Someone delete this sissyboys babble please. I'm tired of looking at it.

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