tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post114003030984895428..comments2024-02-24T11:50:55.413-08:00Comments on Lydia Cornell: TOMB OF SECRETSFans and Friends of Lydia Cornellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01512357844572930333noreply@blogger.comBlogger397125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140584628850059192006-02-21T21:03:00.000-08:002006-02-21T21:03:00.000-08:00Clif,Visceral distain for cowardice and hopelessly...Clif,<BR/><BR/>Visceral distain for cowardice and hopelessly obtuse imbeciles is universal; it cuts across the political spectrum.Freedom Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799821534276323350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140556999195695762006-02-21T13:23:00.000-08:002006-02-21T13:23:00.000-08:00Bowel movement complete, see aboveBowel movement complete, see aboveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140552922239378382006-02-21T12:15:00.000-08:002006-02-21T12:15:00.000-08:00Hey,which one of you is the female in your relatio...Hey,which one of you is the female in your relationship?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140502528115248952006-02-20T22:15:00.000-08:002006-02-20T22:15:00.000-08:00FF; he's really trying for another bowel movemen...FF; he's really trying for another bowel movement through the mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140485740958047862006-02-20T17:35:00.000-08:002006-02-20T17:35:00.000-08:00Dearest anonypuss,I am a huge admirer your remarka...Dearest anonypuss,<BR/><BR/>I am a <I>huge</I> admirer your remarkable courage, sparkling intellect, sage-like wisdom and gentle tolerance. <BR/><BR/>You're easily the wittiest contributor I have yet encountered on this or any other blog. <BR/><BR/>However, I am curious about the fetid stench which emanates from my keyboard gagging me to tears everytime you post...proly just coinkydink since I have no significant digestive problems at the moment.<BR/><BR/>I do <I>so</I> look forward with breathless anticipation to your next precious gem of knowledge.Freedom Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799821534276323350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140479919729048242006-02-20T15:58:00.000-08:002006-02-20T15:58:00.000-08:00Clif and Mike are obviously a couple rump rangersClif and Mike are obviously a couple rump rangersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140471891743330532006-02-20T13:44:00.000-08:002006-02-20T13:44:00.000-08:00I read that I would like to hear your opinion on i...I read that I would like to hear your opinion on is that many of the key Neo Cons like Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rummsfeld etc were advocating invading an oil rich country in the Middle east back in the 1970's mainly to establish an ally in the region and to build up the oil infrastruction and production capacity to get it really cranking and to essentially break the back of OPEC and destroy their pricing power and permanently keep the price of oil low. although even then they cloaked it under the fair giuse of spreading democracy and nation building.<BR/><BR/>They did something similar, the agreement to defend the kingdom of Saudi Arabia if they would stabilise the OPEC. An invasion would have deestabilised the region lowered production and destroyed infrastructure that would have lowered output much more than was done even during the Gulf war of 91.<BR/>\<BR/>Back then the Saudi's could ramp production up or down at will, and they could do it by larger total amounts than some smaller OPEc countries produce. Thus while the Kuwait and Iraq production were affected during the Desert Storm period the Saudi's could compensate.<BR/>Now however the situation is different, the Saudi's are producing close to peak and do not have reserve production capacity to make up for a loss of Iran, Kuwait or other larger producers, and this is why the markets are so unstable and the flucuations are more sever.<BR/><BR/>The neo-cons are not about keeping the price of oil low but controlling the production and distribution thus reaping the profits. An accord with a producing nation is as good as an invasion as long as the neo-cons keep the oil market centered in the west(NY and London) and priced in dollars. If you or I are gouged that is not really their concern.<BR/><BR/>The war against Iraq was more about contracts for oil in Euros to France and Russia than WMD's, and the shrill about Iran is about the market based on the Euro that Iran is starting near the end of March . The arabs of OPEC have found a way to seperate the Europeans(Euros) from the Americans(dollars) and that is why the neo-cons and their spin meisters shrill so loudly against France Germany and Russia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140470260659774012006-02-20T13:17:00.000-08:002006-02-20T13:17:00.000-08:00Morons like that dont have the courage to register...Morons like that dont have the courage to register a handle or actually debate real issues Clif they just pop in fling a few insults and then run away.<BR/><BR/>btw Clif, I'd like to here your opinion on what I posted yesterday at 11:53AM on what I read that the Neo Cons had an Agenda to Invade an oil rich Middle Eastern country back in the 1970's to break OPEC.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08956882396669105125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140469343711748112006-02-20T13:02:00.000-08:002006-02-20T13:02:00.000-08:00Anonypuss come out of the closet you hide in I'd l...Anonypuss come out of the closet you hide in I'd like to playAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140468103234739972006-02-20T12:41:00.000-08:002006-02-20T12:41:00.000-08:00Lydia is crowing about the number of comments,too ...Lydia is crowing about the number of comments,too bad about 800 of them are from the same four dimwits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140467083321739022006-02-20T12:24:00.000-08:002006-02-20T12:24:00.000-08:00Clif and everyone Feel free to keep posting here o...Clif and everyone <BR/><BR/>Feel free to keep posting here on this subject here. <BR/><BR/> The next blog is about electronic voting scandals and the Churches in an uproar about Iraq.Fans and Friends of Lydia Cornellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512357844572930333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140466017590440592006-02-20T12:06:00.000-08:002006-02-20T12:06:00.000-08:00Johnny Moo Moo -- you misunderstood Worfeus. He t...Johnny Moo Moo -- you misunderstood Worfeus. He thinks you are fooling us and don't really have a daughter. <BR/><BR/>He is a good person, I know. He did not deserve your attacks, and I'm sure you're a good person too. <BR/><BR/>New post everyone -- Monday, President's Day.Fans and Friends of Lydia Cornellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512357844572930333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140465287164513302006-02-20T11:54:00.000-08:002006-02-20T11:54:00.000-08:00Binary thinking on your part Clif? I'm shocked. Th...Binary thinking on your part Clif? I'm shocked. Thought you guys were supposed to believe in nuance. Please allow me to break it down:<BR/><BR/>Q: Is the influence of fundamental Islam a critical global problem which affects the stability of the Middle East and poses a threat to our national security?<BR/>A: Um...Yeah kinda. You could say that. <BR/><BR/>Then why did we go and destabilise a nation that was not a haven for terrorist training namely Iraq, offer NO plan for a complete victory which would have included control of the nation its military and weapons, security at the borders to keep the terrorists out, but instead we created a place that even the Taliban sends its fighters to get training to bring back to their battle in afganistan. Kinda makes our approach look like a script for a "Keystone cops goes to war movie" <BR/><BR/>Q: Are all Muslims fundamental wackos?<BR/>A: No.<BR/><BR/>Thank you, you just contridicted a large part of the arguement you made in the essay you wrote, thus proved you have inherant contridictions in your thought process on this issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140464626313894932006-02-20T11:43:00.000-08:002006-02-20T11:43:00.000-08:00Freedom fan said;Q: Am I a paranoid right-wing fre...Freedom fan said;<BR/><BR/>Q: Am I a paranoid right-wing freak or a paid Republican hack?<BR/>A: Sorry, I can't divulge that information at this time. Excuse me while I adjust my tin-foil hat and go check to see if that noise was circling black helicopters or simply the wind.<BR/><BR/>At least one thing you posted has some semblence of honesty, and you said this I did not add or subtract one word.(unlike the way you twist other peoples posts here)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140464035025342352006-02-20T11:33:00.000-08:002006-02-20T11:33:00.000-08:00So which is it? Either they are in lock step(domin...<I>So which is it? Either they are in lock step(dominated by rabid hateful killers full of bloodlust) to take over the world and dominate us all, or they a minority of "good muslims" that must kill their own, and thus they have a much lower chance of taking over the world. You are staring to sound a little paranoid and off balance in your arguments, however keep on at least it is entertaining. </I><BR/>-Clif<BR/><BR/>Binary thinking on your part Clif? I'm <I>shocked</I>. Thought you guys were supposed to believe in nuance. Please allow me to break it down:<BR/><BR/>Q: Is the influence of fundamental Islam a critical global problem which affects the stability of the Middle East and poses a threat to our national security?<BR/>A: Um...Yeah kinda. You could say that.<BR/><BR/>Q: Are all Muslims fundamental wackos? <BR/>A: No.<BR/><BR/>Q: Are moderate Muslims in danger of losing their lives if they arouse the ire of the fundamentalists?<BR/>A: You betcha.<BR/><BR/>Q: Am I a paranoid right-wing freak or a paid Republican hack?<BR/>A: Sorry, I can't divulge that information at this time. Excuse me while I adjust my tin-foil hat and go check to see if that noise was circling black helicopters or simply the wind.Freedom Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799821534276323350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140462590265636152006-02-20T11:09:00.000-08:002006-02-20T11:09:00.000-08:00In your essay; Our enemy’s culture is dominant thr...In your essay; <BR/><BR/>Our enemy’s culture is dominant throughout the Middle East, the northern half of Africa, Indonesia and Malaysia. However demographically, our enemy’s culture is rapidly spreading throughout Europe and much of the western world. Europe and many western nations like Canada are dying because fertility levels are well below replacement levels. To survive, Europe must import labor from other countries; over the last several decades, these immigrants often came from Islamic countries. For example, France is now approximately 10% Muslim and growing.<BR/><BR/>But the statistics only tell part of the story; the immigrants are the young folks who will rapidly replace the aging original inhabitants. As we are aware from the French car-burning riots, Muslims rarely assimilate into the culture of their host country; in fact their religion forbids it. Muslims are convinced that their culture is superior, whereas the people of the west are full of self-doubt and are ashamed to promote or defend their own once magnificent but dying culture.<BR/><BR/>Our enemy has failed in every measurable way and they can no longer ignore their own collective failure because they have been thrust into the information age; each day they must contrast the abject failure of their culture with the success of western culture. They were once successful in blocking out the influence of modern culture, but they can no longer do so. Our enemy cannot afford to admit failure because to do so would mean that their religious beliefs are a lie.<BR/><BR/>Similarly, our enemy cannot change because they are taught from birth that their religion requires belief or death. This religion is intolerant of all other religions and any attempt to reform or soften its requirements is considered blasphemy. These poor people are trapped and there is no escape even for those who want to escape.<BR/><BR/>Our enemy cannot accept the status quo and they cannot change. Their only alternative is to attempt to destroy us as commanded by their religious scripture. Unlike all our previous enemies, our new enemy is not afraid to die. They welcome death because they believe that death brings honor and paradise, and as a bonus it will free them from the squalor and embarrassment of their failures on earth. Their profit from petroleum provides the means necessary to purchase modern 21st century weaponry. They will not hesitate to use them.<BR/><BR/>Now;<BR/><BR/>Only "good" Muslims are crazed killers because they follow what their scriptures require literally and swear blind allegiance to Muhammad. Fortunately, the vast majority of Muslims are not good Muslims. For example, Kurds embrace peaceful Sufism which is Islam in name only. I believe that most Muslims instinctively embrace the golden rule which is in stark contrast with the teachings of Muhammad. I believe this because I have faith in humanity; if I didn't there would be no hope.<BR/><BR/>And;<BR/><BR/>That's the problem. Just as in Palestine, the fanatical Wahhabi Muslims kill their fellow Muslims who are "apostate" because they fail to become bloodthirsty killers. If a Muslim is "apostate" he's far worse even than an infidel and Muhammad demands his death. So an Islamic murderer can brand someone as an "apostate" and murder him with a clear conscience, kinda like calling someone a "witch" in Salem a few years back.<BR/><BR/>So which is it? Either they are in lock step(dominated by rabid hateful killers full of bloodlust) to take over the world and dominate us all, or they a minority of "good muslims" that must kill their own, and thus they have a much lower chance of taking over the world. You are staring to sound a little paranoid and off balance in your arguments, however keep on at least it is entertaining.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140461654452921182006-02-20T10:54:00.000-08:002006-02-20T10:54:00.000-08:00One Question FF if all muslims are crased killers ...<I>One Question FF if all muslims are crased killers and want us all converted or dead, how is it possible that we are training and equiping many muslims in Iraq. Wouldn't that be an extremely BAD idea according to your essay?</I><BR/>-Clif<BR/><BR/>Only "good" Muslims are crazed killers because they follow what their scriptures require literally and swear blind allegiance to Muhammad. Fortunately, the vast majority of Muslims are not good Muslims. For example, Kurds embrace peaceful Sufism which is Islam in name only. I believe that most Muslims instinctively embrace the golden rule which is in stark contrast with the teachings of Muhammad. I believe this because I have faith in humanity; if I didn't there would be no hope.<BR/><BR/><I>Also how do you account for the fact that the Insurgents have killed many more muslims than Americans, doesn't the Koran forbid the killing of a believer.</I><BR/>-Clif<BR/><BR/>That's the problem. Just as in Palestine, the fanatical Wahhabi Muslims kill their fellow Muslims who are "apostate" because they fail to become bloodthirsty killers. If a Muslim is "apostate" he's far worse even than an infidel and Muhammad demands his death. So an Islamic murderer can brand someone as an "apostate" and murder him with a clear conscience, kinda like calling someone a "witch" in Salem a few years back.Freedom Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799821534276323350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140460819087712672006-02-20T10:40:00.000-08:002006-02-20T10:40:00.000-08:00Perhaps you could provide the "Clif-notes" version...Perhaps you could provide the "Clif-notes" version of the facts in the future to save bandwidth and retain the interest of your readers<BR/><BR/>In other words you want the 30 second sound bite sort of answer. You know the ones put out each day by the GOP(greedy old people), and anyone who disagrees or counters the soundbites are decried as liberal, unpatiriotic or worse. Well since I don't approach the world situation with an eleventh grade mentality of soundbites my answers take longer, sometimes because there are usually more that two sides to a situation, just as in Iraq there are more than two sides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140460355229227122006-02-20T10:32:00.000-08:002006-02-20T10:32:00.000-08:00I post about getting to the facts so we can agree ...<I>I post about getting to the facts so we can agree what the problem is before we begin to address the problem </I><BR/>-Clif<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you could provide the "Clif-notes" version of the facts in the future to save bandwidth and retain the interest of your readers.<BR/><BR/><I>I am begining to doubt what you describe yourself as and am begining to beliecve you are a paid troll to subvert the conservation and deride those who resist you.</I><BR/>-Clif<BR/><BR/>And I am beginning to think you suffer from paranoia. Have you checked under your bed for right-wingers lately? But may I compliment you on some excellent red herrings.<BR/><BR/>Whereas Worf is reverting to the old ad hominem--tried and true. But I have little interest in flame wars. Perhaps your former friend Johnny Moo² will come back to accommodate.<BR/><BR/>Still haven't heard any solutions--only whining and blame. I'm sticking with the Republicans, thanks anyway.Freedom Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799821534276323350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140459922852203522006-02-20T10:25:00.000-08:002006-02-20T10:25:00.000-08:00Worfeus I am begining to believe this guy is wwall...Worfeus I am begining to believe this guy is wwallace's second cousin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140459742616119612006-02-20T10:22:00.000-08:002006-02-20T10:22:00.000-08:00One Question FF if all muslims are crased killers ...One Question FF if all muslims are crased killers and want us all converted or dead, how is it possible that we are training and equiping many muslims in Iraq. Wouldn't that be an extremely BAD idea according to your essay?<BR/><BR/>Also how do you account for the fact that the Insurgents have killed many more muslims than Americans, doesn't the Koran forbid the killing of a believer. Also how do you accound for the fact that one major stated goal of Osama Bin Laden is the overthrough of the Suadi Royal family, you know guya like the ones that George Bush holds hands with on his ranch in Texas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140459077954285332006-02-20T10:11:00.000-08:002006-02-20T10:11:00.000-08:00Fight militant Islam militarily; fight ideological...Fight militant Islam militarily; fight ideological Islam ideologically<BR/>-Ali Sina<BR/><BR/>Thus you would agree that the invasiion into Iraq was a mistake because that government was not one of militant Islamists, but instead a despotic dictator who actually despised Osama Bin Laden and the militants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140458778069806492006-02-20T10:06:00.000-08:002006-02-20T10:06:00.000-08:00Freedom Fan; At least Clif disguised the fact that...Freedom Fan; At least Clif disguised the fact that he has no solution behind a massive cut-and-paste that few will read (the argumentum ad nauseum gambit).<BR/><BR/>Funny you come here and start assigning things for others to do, but I didn't see that you were the moderator or were authorised to tell anyonr rlse what they were to do. You post about a war, the worst war that you can imagine and I post examples of a current on going war where real,people are affected and add facts and whitness statements to help prove my point and you decry that. Your sweeping generalisations are not fact, I post about getting to the facts so we can agree what the problem is before we begin to address the problem and you ignorer the request. I am begining to doubt what you describe yourself as and am begining to beliecve you are a paid troll to subvert the conservation and deride those who resist you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140454119696561042006-02-20T08:48:00.000-08:002006-02-20T08:48:00.000-08:00Freedom Fan, I posted what I feel some solutions w...Freedom Fan, I posted what I feel some solutions would be on the newest blog, let me know what you think??Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08956882396669105125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102706.post-1140453537638332472006-02-20T08:38:00.000-08:002006-02-20T08:38:00.000-08:00Have you ever stopped to consider that the problem...<I>Have you ever stopped to consider that the problem with the Muslim attacking us is that they are all united together in the cause of killing the American infidels?</I><BR/>-Worfeus<BR/><BR/>Incorrect. They do not target Americans specifically. Islamists kill infidels and fellow Muslims all over the globe almost every day.<BR/><BR/><I>Then theres your mentality, your plan. And it likewise involves accepting our diversities dogmatically, but uniting under this one banner, to concede to this one common doctrine. That killing the Muslims is a something we should all be able to agree on.</I><BR/>-Worfeus<BR/><BR/>See this is why I don't like to even respond to you. You twist my words beyond recognition. I ask you for your own solution, but provide nothing but a cheap smear job. At least Clif disguised the fact that he has no solution behind a massive cut-and-paste that few will read (the argumentum ad nauseum gambit).<BR/><BR/>What I believe was stated clearly for anyone who cares. It can best be summed up thus:<BR/><BR/><I>Fight militant Islam militarily; fight ideological Islam ideologically</I><BR/>-Ali SinaFreedom Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799821534276323350noreply@blogger.com