Thursday, October 03, 2013

STOP PAYING THE SALARIES OF THE CONGRESSMEN

Those Congressmen in their ivory towers who have no feeling for the American people and what we've been through -- those who are threatening our country and blackmailing us should be allowed to crash and burn.. and never be allowed back in public office. Shame on them. 


A Senator Bluntly Says What We're All Thinking About The Awful And Obnoxious Government Shutdown


More to come including a revamp of my friend the brilliant thinker Alan Harrison of Action Maker. 

Please offer your opinions in the Comments Section. Will not censor unless they are ad hominem attacks. 


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126 comments:

  1. This is ridiculous, for the first time in the history of this country you are now MANDATED to purchase something simply because you were born. And if it's SO wonderful and something everyone wants why are the sign up levels so low?
    I'm currently insured under my employers plan, but have told him if it gets too expensive for him to cut me out. When 1040 time rolls around on the line under "insurer" I fully intend to write "None of your damned business" and "F*** OFF....

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    1. Founding fathers my ass, I bet they're spinning in their graves...

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    2. I knew this would come some day, but I never thought I'd live to see the end of a free America.

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    3. THIS is the reason for the second amendment!

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    4. The second amendment was written in to defend ourselves from government tyranny. Obama is the one that is shutting down the government because he is a spoiled little child that is not getting his way when this health care bill is defunded. If this health care bill were to get fully implemented then when there are more government shutdowns take place....guess what,,,,the democrats will punish us by shutting down this health care when they don't get their way. Big babies that they are and yes they are a major threat on our liberties and freedoms. This party needs to be destroyed asap and it will take all of us to do it. The congressional budget office said that we cannot sustain this type of spending as it will ruin the value of our currency and then we will fail as a society as a result.. Socialist will never return our freedoms when this happens but then we will fall in to hard tyranny and rule with a iron fist.

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  2. You got guts kid. That's why I'm proud ti call you my friend. Hug!

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  3. READ THIS TO CHANGE YOUR MOOD:
    http://politicallyhot.blogspot.com/2013/10/beautiful-thoughts-can-change-your-life.html

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  4. Here comes Worfy Boo Hoo is voltron, just check the profile.

    The delusional anger should have been a large tip off.

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  5. Guys like Screaming Wizard (Freedom Fan, Clippy, etc) love to talk trash about how the second amendment is there so they can overthrow government. Its not. Its there to remove a tyrannical SELF APPOINTED government, not a duly elected one by the people. The Tea Party trash like this troll, coward hiding in his basement clutching a gun....thinks that they have the right to overturn the will of the American people at gunpoint. Just like every corrupt Banana Republic tyrant who's overthrown a democratic govt, or the Nazi Party itself, who overthrew the duly elected govt in Germany through threats, murder and intimidation.

    Fortunately we all know the Tea Party, unlike their Nazi prototypes, haven't the courage of will the Nazi party had. The Nazis' were evil, but they were also gutsy, had fought in a war and were committed to their cause.

    But the Tea Party has no such commitment or courage. The Tea Party will just sit back and talk about revolution on Obama until the next election. They've had 6 years to do something, and all they did was like this trembling little troll here, the "Wiz", ....

    Hide in their basements making idle threats they'll never carry out.

    Ever.

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    1. As usual Worf, you're an idiot.

      Even Hitler was duly elected, so common Germans had no moral right to overthrow him?

      Most tyrannical governments don't start out that way, they change over time as they amass power. AND the "will of the people" can change from election time to the present as affronts to the constitution stack up.

      And your "THEORY" about the second amendment rings false as well.

      The Federalist Papers, No. 28: Alexander Hamilton expressed that when a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have no choice but to exercise their original right of self-defense — to fight the government.[Halbrook, p. 67]

      The Federalist Papers, No. 29: Alexander Hamilton explained that an armed citizenry was the best and only real defense against a standing army becoming large and oppressive. [Halbrook, p. 67]

      The Federalist Papers, No. 46: James Madison contended that ultimate authority resides in the people, and that if the federal government got too powerful and overstepped its authority, then the people would develop plans of resistance and resort to arms. [Halbrook, p. 67]

      Leave the thinking for someone better suited to it.

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    2. As usual Volty, you call people idiots while simultaneously exposing your own ignorance. I suppose you think Kim Jong Il or Saddam Hussein was "duly elected" too.

      No, Hitler was not "duly elected". Go back to your history books and study before coming at me with your tea party talking points and fractured knowledge of history.

      Hitler was APPOINTED Chancellor of Germany by Von Hindenburg on January 30, 1933. Look it up dummy.

      After that there were no more legitimate elections. Hitler used his power as Chancellor to threaten, intimidate and murder all of his opposition so no one dared oppose him , speak out against him.

      Hitler was never "duly elected". He was appointed by Hindenburg as Chancellor then seized power through threats, intimidation, violence, bloodshed and murder.


      This is why they call you "dolt", volt.

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    3. The second amendment is not about overthrowing a government but it is about DEFENDING ourselves against a tyrannical government. Read the intent of our founding fathers and maybe you might understand it. We have the God given right to defend ourselves and that doesn't mean we can attack anyone. I mean what I say about the Democrat party needing to be destroyed and that can be done in a non-violent constitutional manner to which our founding fathers gave the the means in article five of the constitution.

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    4. Yea, tyrannical being the key word there Daniel Loon. Not DULY ELECTED. A duly elected government is by definition not tyranny.

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  6. "Even Hitler was duly elected"

    100% wrong Boo Hoo!

    Working from memory,I believe Hitler was appointed Chancellor when Hindenberg became sick or something. From this strong position,Hitler,slowly rose to full power using questionable tactics. He was never elected to power by the German people.

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  7. Very good Johnny. I'm glad to see the influence of the dark side hasn't completely warped your knowledge of WWI and WWII era history. You win a cookie.

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  8. Here Volty, ...a history lesson fer ya...

    "The election took place after the Nazi Machtergreifung of 30 January when President Paul von Hindenburg had appointed Hitler Chancellor, who immediately urged the dissolution of the Reichstag and the arrangement of new elections. In early February, the Nazis "unleashed a campaign of violence and terror that dwarfed anything seen so far." Storm troopers began attacking trade union and Communist Party (KPD) offices and the homes of left-wingers.[1] In the second half of February, the violence was extended to the Social Democrats, with gangs of brownshirts breaking up Social Democrat meetings and beating up their speakers and audiences. Issues of Social Democratic newspapers were banned.[2] Twenty newspapers of the Centre Party, a party of Catholic Germans, were banned in mid-February for criticizing the new government. Government officials known to be Centre Party supporters were dismissed from their offices, and stormtroopers violently attacked party meetings in Westphalia.[3]

    Six days before the scheduled election date, the German parliament building was set alight in the Reichstag fire, allegedly by the Dutch Communist Marinus van der Lubbe. This event reduced the popularity of the KPD, and enabled Hitler to persuade President Hindenburg to pass the Reichstag Fire Decree as an emergency decree according to Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution. This emergency law removed many civil liberties and allowed the arrest of Ernst Thälmann and 4,000 leaders and members of the KPD[4] shortly before the election, suppressing the Communist vote and consolidating the position of the Nazis. The KPD was "effectively outlawed from 28 February 1933", although it was not completely banned until the day after the election.[5] While at that time not as heavily oppressed as the Communists, the Social Democrats were also restricted in their actions, as the party's leadership had already fled to Prague and many members were acting only from the underground. Hence, the fire is widely believed to have had a major effect on the outcome of the election. As replacement, and for 10 years to come, the new parliament used the Kroll Opera House for its meetings.
    The resources of big business and the state were thrown behind the Nazis' campaign to achieve saturation coverage all over Germany. Brownshirts and SS patrolled and marched menacingly through the streets of cities and towns. A "combination of terror, repression and propaganda was mobilized in every... community, large and small, across the land."[6] To further ensure the outcome of the vote would be a Nazi majority, Nazi organizations "monitored" the vote process. In Prussia 50,000 members of the SS, SA and Stahlhelm were ordered to monitor the votes as deputy sheriffs by acting Interior Minister Hermann Göring."


    There's your "duly elected" Hitler.

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  9. The republicans did the same thing in 2000 with the Bush\Gore elections, appointing the head of the Campaign to Elect Bush in Florida as the head of the election committee and made her responsible for the votes, which she quickly used her power to toss out more than 40,000 votes from democratic districts, and during the recount the police allowed republicans to threaten, harass and intimidate the vote counters until they finally gave up for fear for their lives.

    This is why volty defends Hitler. Because volty, likes Hitler. Hitler and the rise of the grassroots movement of the Nazi party, is very much akin to the Tea Party, and its attempt to use threats of violence and murder, with their guns.....and "revolution".....to try to overturn the will of the people and force themselves into power.

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  10. Fortunately, this is America. And that won't fly here. The drones will see to that.

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  11. And by the way, you treasonous tin foil hat wearing terrorist twit, ....the key word in your Hamilton quote, was "tyrannical" govt. A duly elected govt by definition cannot be "tyrannical". Tyranny is force, not the will of the people.

    Obama introduced Obamacare in his first term, and then the people elected him for the second term. Therefore, as Lincoln pointed out, when Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in his first term, the people elected him to a second, therefore sanctioning his actions in signing the Emancipation Proclamation. So for the Democrats in the house to accuse him of tyranny in trying to free the slaves in his second term, was ludicrous since the peoples vote sanctioned it by reelecting him to another term. So too Obama was relected to another term. So he's only got another 3 years to go, and he's served 5, so where's this tyranny you speak of? Has he conscripted an army? Has he murdered his opponents and detractors? Has he dissolved the House or the Senate?

    Tyranny, dolt, ....is not giving out free health care to poor people, or implementing a new tax. Tyranny is tyranny. And so far, this tyranny you tin foil hat wearing backwoods weekend warrior wannabe's keep blubbering about, ...hasn't produced itself.

    If it takes much longer to show up....he'll be out of office.

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  12. But keep threatening your treason, and armed rebellion, murder of public officials, etc, and who knows? Maybe the Secret Service will decide to take you seriously some day and explain it to you. Then you can make a video like that Yeager clown who did the same thing on Youtube, threatening armed rebellion, and when the cops show up you can do like him and sit down with your lawyer to sheepishly apologize. I don't know. Seems like what you want with your constant threatening of it in here but we'll leave that to others. At least for now as none of us take you seriously. We know you, and know what a load of horseshit you really are. Just a clown with a keyboard, who dreams of one day being Rambo and killing all the libruls but will likely never act on it. Of course there's always that possibility that you're farther gone than we realize. You could be a cork ready to pop, so who knows?

    I'm sure Lydia's had her FBI friend keep tabs on you, so if you do feel the urge to unload that gun into some libruls, ...let us know first.

    We'll get you some help.

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  13. This is why by the way, why you keep defending Hitler and the Nazis, ...saying stupid things to defend them like "Hitler was duly elected" to defend him and change history to make him appear not so bad.

    This is why you do it.

    Because you are one yourself.

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  14. Chill out Worf! You make Volt sound like a killer or something due to his opposing political views......LOL!

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  15. It's the liberal way Johnny, no one simply has an opposing viewpoint, they're just "EVIL"...

    I'll accept that I was wrong about Hitler being duly elected based on you and Worfys response, the simple fact even duly elected leaders can become tyrannical is not wrong.

    (And Worfy, my simple statement, while touching your buttons, was no defense of Hitler. More of a condemnation of the citizenry.)

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  16. And note Obamacare is NOT popular among the masses, Zero's approval rating is down to 37% and congresses approval rating is down to 8%. Tell me again how it's the will of the people...

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  17. Here, observe the talk of the drug addled, brain dead tea baggers brain......

    Dipshit said....
    "I'll accept that I was wrong about Hitler being duly elected based on you and Worfys response"

    Wow....how about opening a history book one time, prior to running your fat mouth about history you clearly know NOTHING about?

    Because while I realize yours and Johnny's drug addled early onset dementia doesn't allow you to remember what you say from day to day in here, ....you will recall we've had this exact same conversation, on NUMEROUS occasions.

    This isn't the first time you've made that claim that Hitler was "duly elected".

    You've made that claim repeatedly over a period of several years.

    And each time I set you straight, and taught you about Hitler and how he actually came to power.

    So who cares what you "accept"?

    I accept that you're a dirty, low down liar, who spends his time making idle threats of mass murder, murdering libruls, murdering public officials, seizing power through force, overturning the will of the people and replacing the duly elected government by blood and murder, ......and I of course accept the fact you are in need of serious, serious mental health care.

    I accept that. When are you going to?

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  18. And as for the "will of the people", the people elected Obama to a second term AFTER he introduced Obamacare in his first. That IS the "will of the people". The people spoke. You lost.

    And you can't handle that loss so you sit in here and elsewhere talking about mass murder of liberals to overthrow the government and put yourselves into power.

    Which part of that is not true? Which part of that is unfamiliar to you?

    And Johnny, which part of armed revolt don't you get?

    Which part of Voltron's incessant talk of using GUNS to remove the government is elusive to you?

    What role did you think the GUNS voltron is talking about using to remove the government will play in this "revolutuion"?

    Do you think they're talking about shooting water lily's at them?

    Do you think that fluffy stuffed animals come out of the barrels?

    Maybe a flag pops out and says "Bang!" like in the old movies?

    BULLETS come out of those barrels. And bullets rip through human flesh to maim and kill.

    So while you're busy playing his concern troll and trying to downplay his never ending comments, you might take a moment to think about whether or not you want to be one of the ones associated with defending that sort of mass murder.

    Because armed revolt, using GUNS to remove our duly elected government, ...means armed revolt to remove our duly elected government.

    It doesn't mean throwing daisy's at them or as voltron likes to say, singing "kumbiyah"

    It means murdering them.

    It means murdering police, FBI, Secret Service, GSA, local politicians, federal politicians, the national guard, the military, and anyone else daring to stand up to them.

    So forget your miserable attempts to try to white wash Voltron's calls for armed revolt against our duly elected government. Armed revolt is BLOODY. It means MURDERING those in power, and the law enforcement and military protecting them.

    Be a man Johnny. Call it what it is.

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  19. And here Johnny, since Voltron will probably go back and delete his comments (don't worry, we've saved them) and pretend he never said it, ....again, here's one more threat from Voltron to murder the libruls and use murder to remove the government.

    Voltron threatened .....


    "The second amendment was written in to defend ourselves from government tyranny. "

    Big babies that they are and yes they are a major threat on our liberties and freedoms.

    This party needs to be destroyed asap and it will take all of us to do it.


    "DESTROYED WITH GUNS".

    It doesn't get any clearer than that.

    And no way to weasel out of it.

    Not by him, or his favorite turd-weasel, ...you.

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    1. Voltron didn't say that Worfy. More of your "accuracy" I'm sure....

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    2. Sure he did liar, crawling in a month later to try to cover for your alter ego. Those are CUT AND PASTES from what Voltron said, asshole. Figures little sissy has to try to backpedal after shooting off his mouth.

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    3. You really are a foul little weasel voltron. You run and hide when I'm right here, challenging you to respond down below at the active point of the thread. You say "I'll get back to you with that list". Then you run away and hide. For a MONTH. Then you weasel back in, trying to slip in little "nuh uhs" wherever you can slip them without being seen, and without of course addressing your comments or providing said "list". Just trying to cover up.

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  20. ...but feel free to come in Volty, or send your pet weasel Johnny in if you're not man enough, ....to explain how exactly you can "DESTROY" an entire group of people with GUNS, ........that doesn't involve killing them.

    Feel free to try and tap dance your way out of that one.

    I'll grab the popcorn and wait eagerly for my evenings entertainment.

    We'll call it, "the Voltron & Johnny Slap Happy Comedy Hour", starring that slap happy wanna be mass murderer, .Voltron, aka Boo Boo, AKA Prisoner number 921574238.......in waiting....

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  21. Well,I certainly don't recognize anything tyrannical about Obama. If anything, I thought George Bush junior was kind of scary. And,I certainly don't approve of overthrowing a government with guns unless genocide or total destruction of the state were taking place.

    Albert Speer plotted to kill Hitler after reading this Quote:


    "The task of diplomacy is to ensure that a nation does not heroically go to its destruction but is practically preserved. Every way that leads to this end is expedient, and a failure to follow it must be called criminal neglect of duty."

    "State authority as an end in itself cannot exist, since in that case every tyranny on this
    earth would be sacred and unassailable. If a racial entity is being led toward its doom by means of governmental power, then the rebellion of every single member of such a Volk is not only a right, but a duty."

    Adolph Hitler

    Mein Kampf

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  22. Gee, looks like the Voltron & Johnny Slap Happy Comedy Hour got preempted this evening.

    Oh well. Figured it would be difficult to tap dance your way out of that one.

    Guess I'll see what else is on.

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  23. oops, didn't see you there Johnny. Yea, good quote, ...I guess. But what does it have to do with Obama?

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  24. I guess you just found it pertinent since we were talking about the Nazi's and Hitler earlier, as I see you clearly state your position against armed revolt except in the most extreme cases. Bravo. You are to be commended.

    But that leaves the begging question. What role do you think "GUNS", ...would have in "DESTROYING DEMOCRATS"?

    How would one go about 'Destroying a democrat with a gun'?

    ...other than shooting him with it I mean?

    Do tell...

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  25. Yea, ..thought so. Hard when you talk yourself into a corner, huh Johnny?

    While you're busy defending this closet Son of Sam, ...just remember.

    The Nazi's also thought they had the right to murder their opposition to install themselves in power.

    Being such an avid and informed student of the rise and fall of Nazi Germany and being fully aware of this fact, ...how is it you find yourself defending someone advocating the exact same thing?

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  26. See the reason they call Obama a Nazi, is because they want to downplay and distract people from the very real actions of their own which mimic the Nazi party. They want you to think of the Nazi's as someone already IN power.

    They do NOT want you to think about how they got into power.

    That's why Voltron has repeatedly come in here declaring Hitler a "duly elected official", even though he knows darn good and well he's not and even though each time we set him straight and educate him how Hitler came to power,

    He keeps doing it, because that's what his party does. The Tea Party. Like their Nazi counterparts, consistently use lies, misdirection and diversions along with threats to push their grab for power.

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  27. And by perpetually spreading the lie on the internet they seed the notion in peoples minds that Hitler was in fact duly elected, and thus breed more of their own ignorance in others, turning those into mindless zombies like themselves. Soldiers in the army of hate, rage and ignorance.

    Convincing others that Hitler was duly elected to office helps them make the ridiculous comparison of Obama to Hitler, by pointing out he too is duly elected and therefore its easy to justify unseating Hitler at the point of a gun and thereby rationalize doing likewise to Obama.

    The last thing they want you to know, or even think about, ....is that the Nazi Party, like the Tea Party, was made up of a bunch of angry, far right wing white men who started out as a grass roots movement supposedly "of the people" ...(yea, people like them) who used threats of violence which at first were only loosely veiled threats, which later turned into shouting down liberals, social democrats and any other opposition in the Beer Halls, later on the streets and finally turning to the bloodshed they had all along been only threatening to commit.

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  28. So when Voltron comes in here, and like millions of right wing tea party trolls on the internet in blogs everywhere today, calls for using guns to "destroy" liberals, .....well......if it doesn't give you pause, ....then one can only conclude you must be with them.

    Either that, .....or legally brain dead.

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  29. .....please check one of the above.

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  31. ...and by......Reynolds Wrap.

    Reynolds Wrap. Makers of fine cranial protective gear for more than 50 years.

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  32. Worf said: "How would one go about 'Destroying a democrat with a gun'?"

    Well, I guess you could hit him over the melon with it.....lol!

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  33. The Hitler Quote is quite pertinent as his very own leadership is the perfect example of a governmental power leading its country to certain destruction thus,in my opinion,and Hitlers,it would be morally justifiable for the citizens to rise up and use arms so as to prevent certain doom.

    Obviously,I dont recognize such destruction taking place in the States right now (not even close) therefore I am vehemently opposed to the use of guns. As a historian,I know this is a inevitable recipe for disaster. I do not like the "Tea Party" on any level,however,I suggest these wacky extremists are simply trying to intimidate the more timid liberals.

    Sorry,Volt,I have to disagree with you on this one!

    Any individual

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  34. The beauty of America & Canada is that we have the "right to disagree." If everyone pointed guns due to opposing viewpoints, then it nullifies the purpose of having a democratic process??

    Save the guns for the islam mother-f**kers........not your fellow countrymen! The Kenyan mall shooting pisses me off! They are barbaric animals......period!

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  35. I dont want to go to work today.............my back is killing me. Wheres Lydia to give me a nice soothing lower back-rub??

    : )

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  36. How about we pull back from Worfy's frothing at the mouth melodrama for a bit.

    My initial comment was that EVEN DULY ELECTED GOVERNMENTS CAN BECOME TYRANNICAL.
    ( which they CAN )

    AND my contention IS that the second amendment WAS written for this purpose.

    Consider that Zero's approval rating is now at 37% and congress is at 8%, they DO NOT have the will of the people behind them on this.

    Consider that we have a president who has ordered apprehending and imprisoning AMERICAN citizens indefinitely with little to no evidence of their wrong doing, and no trials.

    Has a "kill" list with AMERICAN citizens on it AND NO due process.

    Uses "executive orders" to exempt friends from duly passed laws, and violates the constitution as he pleases, as does congress.

    We're getting there quickly.

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    1. That sounds all well and good until one considers the fact that less than 10 years ago under Bush you were in here defending the exact same things.

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      "Consider that Zero's approval rating is now at 37% and congress is at 8%, they DO NOT have the will of the people behind them on this."

      Well considering that's 15 percent higher than the current Tea Party approval rating, .. your claims to be doing the "will of the people" fail to hold water.

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  37. Johnnymoomoo2:47 AM
    Worf said: "How would one go about 'Destroying a democrat with a gun'?"

    Well, I guess you could hit him over the melon with it.....lol!



    I was waiting for that one. Saw that one coming.

    So you feel that bludgeoning someone to death with a rifle butt would be ok then? Just don't shoot them with it?

    Its funny huh Johnny, ....murdering lots of people....threatening to...that's funny stuff huh? To you I mean?

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  38. Johnny Himmler said...

    Save the guns for the islam mother-f**kers........not your fellow countrymen! The Kenyan mall shooting pisses me off! They are barbaric animals......period!

    ..yea....when the white people do it though they're not barbaric animals, right? Just the dark skinned ones.

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  39. Here comes Volty you know who ....

    How about we pull back from Worfy's frothing at the mouth melodrama for a bit.

    My initial comment was that EVEN DULY ELECTED GOVERNMENTS CAN BECOME TYRANNICAL.
    ( which they CAN )

    AND my contention IS that the second amendment WAS written for this purpose.

    Consider that Zero's approval rating is now at 37% and congress is at 8%, they DO NOT have the will of the people behind them on this.

    Consider that we have a president who has ordered apprehending and imprisoning AMERICAN citizens indefinitely with little to no evidence of their wrong doing, and no trials.

    Has a "kill" list with AMERICAN citizens on it AND NO due process.

    Uses "executive orders" to exempt friends from duly passed laws, and violates the constitution as he pleases, as does congress.

    We're getting there quickly.


    In the first breath its "worfy" who's "frothing at the mouth" in merely addressing Voltron's calls for mass murder of public officials, police and the military.

    And in the second breath, .....he proceeds to froth more at the mouth making the case why he has the right to murder everyone who has a low approval rating in the polls.

    .....questions from the audience.

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  40. And by the way there Prisoner number 921574238 in waiting...Bush had that same kill list. And while I realize your drug, alcohol rotted brain is no better at retaining long term memory as it is short term, you might recall that it was Bush who began the "Executive Orders" in 2003 and continued them through his term, bypassing the constitution.

    You remember that right big mouth?

    You were in here defending it, .....then.

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  41. But now you declare you have the right to shoot the President over it? That is what you're saying here.

    You keep repeating in here that the 2nd Amendment is how you want to remove him.

    The second Amendment is the right to bear arms. GUNS.

    So....if you plan on removing Obama....with a GUN Voltron, .....then how exactly would you do that?

    Without shooting him with it that is?

    You keep whining on one hand that I'm being "Melodramatic"...then in the next breath make the case for why you have the right to remove Obama and Congress with a "gun".

    And since we KNOW that you can't just point one at them without being ready to shoot it, (because you'd be gunned down in seconds)....then the ONLY interpretation of the threats you are making, are the ones visible at face value.

    The ones you keep repeating, ...even daydreaming about, ...in here.

    Your plan is to use guns to kill President, his cabinet, the Congress, the State and Local Govts, and all the Police and Military who get in your way. That is what you are saying.

    Right?

    But again, feel free to offer an alternative scenario to the one you are promulgating in here.

    Feel free to explain how you could accomplish the removal of the President, and Congress, using GUNS, .....without shooting them, the Police and Military, ... with those guns.

    We're all ears.

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  42. Well? Nothing? Not even from your trusty side-kick Johnny?

    You keep accusing me of being melodramatic. Fine. I hope you're right.

    But until you can explain to us how you can use "GUNS", to remove the President, his cabinet, the Congress, without shooting those guns at them and the men and women protecting them, ...then from face value alone I'm not being melodramatic at all.

    In fact until you can offer even one possible explanation of how you'd use GUNS, to remove our duly elected President, his cabinet and the Congress, without shooting them with the guns, ....then your accusations of melodrama fall flat and in fact you are a raving, frothing at the mouth mass murder threatening loon. Just like Anders Brevik, the Norway shooter.


    But hey, balls in your court.

    Feel free however to prove me wrong and explain to everyone how you'd remove our duly elected President and Congress with your guns, without shooting them with those guns.

    Again, we're all ears.

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  43. for cripes sake Worf.

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  44. Allah Worf said: ".yea....when the white people do it though they're not barbaric animals, right? Just the dark skinned ones."

    Gee,Worf,show me a mall shooting where white folk have cut out the eyes (and other body parts) of the victims? Sounds like you almost support Islam and its terrorist activities due to your bleeding heart for their skin color and wacky customs which I have no desire to be tolerant of because of government brainwashing ??

    How nice, yet indifferent of you to ignore the suffering of these victims because you're so concerned for their racial well being.

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  45. Hmmmmmmm..............wheres Worf?? He is either cashing his welfare check or is praying to Allah on his special carpet??

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  46. Ted Bundy used to do that. He was white. There have been plenty of murders in the US where the assailant cut people up. What about the Elementary school shooter? He shot 6 year old children in the head. 20 of them. You're saying that's better than the Muslim shooters somehow? They even let some of the kids go. They're all bad Johnny.

    And you're bad, for being a racist piece of crap.

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  47. But nice diversion attempt to run interference.

    But the question still stands, and will stand until answered.

    How exactly does one remove our duly elected President and Congress with your guns, without shooting them with those guns?

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  48. Its a simple question. Why are you afraid to answer it?

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  49. Uhhhhhhhh.........Worf,Ted Bundy was mentally ill...........he didnt do it for religious purposes like these astonishingly moronic islam ragheads! The school shooter is a piece of shit but he didnt do it for some illusory god like allah.

    Muslims have a right to exist and practice their customs................I just wish they would get the f*ck out of my country and live their shit way of life on their own turf...........period! Many upscale Canadians feel the same way.

    You have no empathy whatsoever for the victims of these barbaric sub-humans who act soooooooooo arrogantly in my country due to my way of life......they virtually segregate themselves acting as if we are the weird ones for playing road hockey or something! When I was a kid there was always an X-mas tree in the school foyer which always brought me happiness and warmth via the Christmas spirit. Not anymore............Muslims protested that the X-mas trees violated their religious beliefs..........the glowing trees are now a thing of the past!

    Also,I have clearly agreed with you on the gun issue.........what more do you want man??

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  50. Shut up Johnny. That's what I want you to do. I want you to stop trying to run interference for Voltron, by trying to SHIFT the topic to your rabid racism against Muslim's thinking you can easily distract me from it, and take pressure off of Voltron who just painted himself into a corner.

    That's what I want you to do.

    I didn't ask you to "agree" with me. I asked a question. You can't agree with a question.

    And that question was to Voltron, and you if you want to answer too.

    But your DIVERSIONS are not wanted and won't be entertained.

    The question stands until answered.


    How exactly does one remove our duly elected President and Congress with your guns, without shooting them with those guns?

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  51. ...three days, and still waiting for an answer.

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  52. How exactly does one remove our duly elected President and Congress with your guns, without shooting them with those guns?

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  53. You keep threatening to do it Voltron. So my question is, if you don't mean you want to assassinate our government leaders and the men and women protecting them, ...then how exactly would you remove them using "GUNS"......without shooting them with those guns?

    Please explain.

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  54. Worf you're still an idiot. I'm not suggesting some "lone gunman" type scenario. When enough people get fed up with government ignoring the Constitution and a majority is reached we'll march on Washington. At that point I'm sure even the majority of police and the military who have SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, not a MAN, will then support it. And I'm sure even they will be unwilling to fire on their own families.

    Then we put them on trial for treason. While we're at it, since the press have a special place in the Constitution we put them on trial for treason as well.

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    1. "Still"? Last I checked, you were the one calling me an idiot for pointing out correctly that Hitler wasn't duly elected. In fact, you didn't even know he was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg, something anyone would know who knew anything at all about Hitler and the Nazis'. So your choice of the word "still", is a fallacious as the rest of your insane babbling. The idiot, is still you.

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  55. Isalm Worf said

    "Shut up Johnny. That's what I want you to do."

    No!!! Who made you god???

    This is a demand Worf not a request.............not cool man! This is a open & free forum...............not a dictatorship! If you feel this strongly about your debate with Volt all you need do is ask me politely to step aside so you may finish. I have no problem with this but when you demand.......well......... you can go fly a kite!

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  56. Here comes Prisoner Number 921574238 in Waiting said...

    Worf you're still an idiot. I'm not suggesting some "lone gunman" type scenario


    I never said you were. I ASKED you what you were suggesting, since you're afraid to address your own words.

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  57. Here comes Prisoner Number 921574238 in Waiting said...

    Then enough people get fed up with government ignoring the Constitution and a majority is reached we'll march on Washington.

    Ok, so we're getting a clearer picture of your plans.

    So you are rallying people to march on Washington with guns.

    You are currently in the process of inciting armed treason, and you plan to kidnap the President and his cabinet, the Congress, ....and seize power for yourselves.

    That is what you are currently in the process of doing?

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  58. Question, .....lets pretend for a moment that you won't be locked away where you can do no harm long before they let you get that far, ..,...but lets just pretend for a moment that they won't, and you're allowed to get that far.

    You say;

    At that point I'm sure even the majority of police and the military who have SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, not a MAN, will then support it. And I'm sure even they will be unwilling to fire on their own families.


    uhhm, ...have you looked at the demographics of the Metropolitan Police force recently?

    How about the Capitol Police?

    How about the demographics in the military?

    Are you aware that the overwhelming majority of the Police you'll be encountering when you arrive in Washington, are both black and overwhelmingly democrat and liberals and huge supporters of Obama?

    Are you aware of this fact, or don't they get mainstream news out there in Cornhole Arizona, or wherever the heck your Clown Bunkers located?

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  59. Have you looked at the American support for the Tea Party movement lately?

    Have you looked at polling data, I mean real polling and not Tea Party talking point polling?

    You guys aren't exactly the "Belle of the Ball" lately you know. Your unpopularity rating is higher than your popular rating, Did you think the other half of the country's just going to roll over and let YOU tea baggers seize power like a Banana Republic?

    Did you think we don't have guns, or know how to use them too?

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  60. Are you aware there are actually tanks, missiles, Apache Helicopters and drones all waiting for you all maintained by the Military, National Guard and Secret Service that are ready for such a "march on Washington" by armed terrorists like you people?

    Did you think we're just going to let you turn our nation, into Nazi Germany with the Tea party tyrants as our new taskmasters?

    Ever hear the expression, ...."better the Devil you know....."?

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  61. Here comes Prisoner Number 921574238 in Waiting said...

    "At that point I'm sure even the majority of police and the military who have SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, not a MAN, "

    That's right, which is why the overwhelming majority of the country will support our Constitution and not let a small, angry group of armed terrorists and traitors overthrow our duly elected government.

    Of that you can rest assured.

    And when we're another 10 or 20 years older, still blogging in here and you're either consigned to the local federal penitentiary or the state funny farm, ...we'll remember these words and that you never did a damned thing other than run your mouth.

    Obama's more than halfway through his Presidency, and you've been talking about this for 5 years.

    If you wait much longer, ..he'll be out of office and you can try to get one of your own elected.

    Oh wait, that's right. You don't believe in the Constitutional process of electing a President.

    You believe in the Taliban\Banana Republic method of placing yourselves into power by force.

    .....and you have the nerve to call Obama a tyrant.

    Go figure.

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  62. Well one things for sure, if you think the Maryland State Police, the DC Metropolitan Police, the Capitol Police, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, GSA Police, the Secret Service and the Guard are all made up of Tea Party supporters and are gonna let a bunch of angry, inbred psychos waltz into DC and seize power, .....well....lets just say I'm betting on the state funny farm.

    ...though I wouldn't rule out a minuteman in the kisser....

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  63. Its not about protecting a "Man" voltron, and while I know in your Bi-Polar tiny tea party brain, either you're with the tea party are you must be an Obama supporter, the fact is most of us are adults, and support our government whether we agree with the current President on everything, or not. Like ALL Presidents, I agree with some of what Obama does and disagree with other things that he does. That's life boy.

    And its always been and always will be that way.

    Adults, sane ones anyway, know this and have no problem supporting their country regardless of their satisfaction with their DULY ELECTED LEADERS.

    As long as we have DULY ELECTED LEADERS, then there is NO right or justification for any sort of armed treason.

    ONLY if a leader SEIZES POWER THROUGH FORCE, does that constitute TYRANNY. You cannot ELECT TYRANNY. The very fact that he's elected, rules out tyranny.

    So if YOU decide to SEIZE POWER, then YOU ARE THE TYRANTS, not the government. We elected. I don't see ANYONE electing you.

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  64. We elected them. I don't see anyone electing you.

    Only tyrants, seize power with guns.

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  65. You can't call it tyranny, if the people voted for it.

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  66. And you know what the worst thing about your groups threats of armed revolt? Your definition of tyranny.

    Don't even try with the spying scandal, or executive orders. Because we all KNOW how your group feels about those as long as its one of your own signing off on it.

    I mean do you honestly think we don't remember you and everyone in your Band of Boneheads, ....defending those very same things when Bush started them?

    For 8 years you defended Bush doing those very same things. Told us "you have nothing to worry about if you're not doing anything wrong".

    Remember that? .....yea.......you have the nerve to suggest those things to me today, and I'll bet the tea party tries to rally support on those things.

    But we all know that for 8 years, you tea baggers supported the very same things under Bush. Which is where it all started.

    So don't even try to go there.

    We all know your definition of "tyranny".

    Giving a few pennies from your monthly income, .....to what you think is poor black people.

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  67. I grew up loving America.........it saddens me that you guys cant get along!

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  68. Last I checked, they're the only ones who can't "get along".

    None of us are threatening armed sedition.

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  69. Here comes Prisoner Number 921574238 in Waiting said...

    Then we put them on trial for treason. While we're at it, since the press have a special place in the Constitution we put them on trial for treason as well

    ...and what is the usual punishment for treason?

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  70. During the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany they also used trumped up charges of treason to kill or imprison their political opposition.


    For a bunch of guys with guns claiming to not have anything to do with the Nazi Party, .., .....you seem awfully dialed in.

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  72. Just so we're clear on this,

    What you're saying is that "A DULY ELECTED GOVERNMENT" can in no way turn away from the Constitution, disregard the will of the people, lose popular support and BECOME tyrannical?

    And if they do, we have NO recourse but to wait for the next election?

    We have several states now that have passed or are passing laws exempting their citizens from the current NDAA law, several states passing their own immigration laws, and many citizens upset that big businesses and unions get exemptions from Zerocare and they don't. (not to mention the sticker shock) What if they're declared "rogue" and he declares martial law and suspends elections?

    We just have to wait until he magnanimously reinstates them?

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  73. What you're saying is that "A DULY ELECTED GOVERNMENT" can in no way turn away from the Constitution, disregard the will of the people, lose popular support and BECOME tyrannical?

    That's right. Unless they freeze elections no tyranny would be given time to take root, with a new presidential election every 4 years. If its starting to look like tyranny the people will vote him out. And if he uses brutality to make you vote for him then you'd have a good case.

    But as long as the majority is voting for it, the minority doesn't have the right to overthrow the duly elected government.

    That's democracy on the Nazi plan.

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    1. What if it's the MAJORITY that wants to throw them out?

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    2. If the majority wants to throw them out, then why is the majority voting to keep them there? There's another election coming up. If the majority wants to throw them out then all they have to do is vote.

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  74. We have several states now that have passed or are passing laws exempting their citizens from the current NDAA law, several states passing their own immigration laws, and many citizens upset that big businesses and unions get exemptions from Zerocare and they don't. (not to mention the sticker shock)

    That's right. You think in a tyranny they'd be doing that?

    Your own comments defeats your own argument.

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    1. Let's just see how far those states get with that first...

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    2. States have been defying the federal govt for years under Obama.In fact two major states, Colorado and Washington, legalized pot in spite of federal law. The govt didn't stop them.

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    3. Your tin foil hat delusions don't determine reality.

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    4. All your insane vain imaginings don't coincide with demonstrative realty. You claimed he'd take away your guns. Instead he signed legislation expanding gun ownership laws and even carry rights into national parks. So what you clowns are afraid he's going to do doesn't line up with what he has actually done.

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  75. Here comes State Mental Hospital Inmate number 921574238 said...

    "What if they're declared "rogue" and he declares martial law and suspends elections?"

    When he does that give us a call.

    In the meantime your tin foil hat delusions don't constitute reality, and never have.

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    1. AND when he does that, it'll already be too late...

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    2. So you will summarily kidnap, then imprison or execute the President, ...based on what you THINK he might do some day?

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  76. We already have tyranny. It's called "establishment politicians". Even when you vote for change those people get stymied by those already there in power. THAT'S why nothing ever changes.

    AND I'M TALKING ABOUT BOTH SIDES.

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    1. We already have tyranny. It's called "establishment politicians".

      They're only establishment politicians because the people vote for them.

      Its not tyranny if the people can simply vote them out every few years.

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    2. The constitution is never up for election as all politicians take an oath to honor it . Obama cannot make laws or change any laws without congressional approval and he is doing just that.

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    3. You might at least sound remotely reasonable had you not been in here year after year during Bush's term defending the very same sorts of things under him.

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    4. But since you were then your complaints about not following the Constitution fall way short of the mark, particularly given you were right on board with it when Bush started it with his "Signing Statements" at NSA authorizing the program you're up in arms over now.

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  77. Ok Paul ReQueer, ....lets hear your list of grievances. Other than Obamacare, what has Obama done that Bush didn't do, that you claim is cause for armed , bloody rebellion and overturning a duly elected govt.

    Lets hear your Manifesto.

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  78. I'll get back to you on that. The list is long and it's late...

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  79. weak....its not late, its only 9:30 out west there where you live. And its Saturday night.

    Weak......weak....

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  80. ...seems if its worth armed revolution, ....you'd be able to at least summarize it with some highlights.

    I mean, if you're angry enough to kill over it as you state.

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  81. Come on, I'm giving you your big moment. Lets hear your sales pitch. What are your list of grievances that you cannot seek redress for and that wasn't done under Bush where you were in here supporting it, ....and that is deserving bloody armed revolt.

    Lets hear your Beer Hall Putsch speech.

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  82. Screamin' Wizard7:11 PM

    The second amendment was written in to defend ourselves from government tyranny. Obama is the one that is shutting down the government because he is a spoiled little child that is not getting his way when this health care bill is defunded


    No, you're acting a like a bunch of babies because you can't have your way.

    "His" healthcare bill was voted on and passed by ALL THREE BRANCHES of OUR Government.

    So its is law, and you're upset because YOU can't have YOUR way, so you try to force your will on the entire country.

    The Tea Party currently has DISMAL support from the majority of the population, enjoying their lowest rankings ever. Gallup showed just last month that Tea Party support among the population was down to a dismal 22 percent.

    22 percent.

    What Voltron and Ann Coulter call, the Will of the People.

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  83. Here let me put it in terms even you two Minute Mooks can understand.

    You wouldn't be in here talking about overthrowing the government, ...if this were a tyranny.

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  84. Gee, no response. Hard when the facts dismantle your Tea Party talking points, isn't it?

    Like the fact that by your own admission, Obama enjoys a 15 percent higher approval rating than the Tea Party.

    Obama's at 37% according to your post above.

    Current Gallup polls for Tea Party support fall way below that at a dismal 22%.

    So much for your claims to be doing the will of the people.

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  85. Just like the Nazi party, you're a small minority attempting to use force to seize power, persecute an entire race of religious people (the Muslims are your Jews), persecute and or murder the liberals, just like the Nazi's did, and place yourself into totalitarian armed dictatorship where YOUR leaders, are forced on us all.

    At gunpoint.

    Just like your Nazi predecessors.

    Clearly polling data alone shows you're not doing the will of the people.

    Just the will of YOUR people.

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  86. ok, you can march on Washington if you want with your guns, but only if they're muskets.

    ...and you gotta wear those pointy triangle hats.

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  87. Gee, been days now since you said you'd "have to get back to me" on a list of your Tea Party grievances you claim are worth armed revolt. Could it be that perhaps I'm right, ...that these "grievances" you speak of aren't so "grievous" after all?

    I mean how grievous can these grievances be if you can't even summarize them in over 2 days?

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  88. Could it be like that like we said, you're just a bunch of angry, racist trash that can't stand the fact a black man gets to tell you what to do?

    Could that be it?

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  89. I mean, that's really the only option you leave us given in over 2 days you couldn't put together a list of these so called "armed revolution worthy grievances" or even summarize it.

    People ready to commit mass murder and treason usually at least have some pretty clearly defined grievances to back up their revolution with.

    It would seem the Tea Party forgot that part prior to calling for armed revolt.

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  90. Worf

    I am not deflecting your debate.......... I just downloaded World of Tanks and its awesome!! On my first try I killed one dude and didn't die in the game. On my second try I actually led the board with 4 kills. On my third try I died immediately with no kills. However,once I get used to the controls I will destroy everything in my path.......LOL!

    After I die is there no way for me to rejoin the battle in another fresh tank?? Like......wtf??

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  91. Like I said, ....2 days, ...and you can't even summarize these so called "grievances" that you claim are worthy to go to war over.

    Seriously, ...how "grievous" can they be?

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  92. Maybe Johnny has your list of grievances. Did you ask him if he'd seen it?


    Maybe you left it in your other trousers.

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  93. ....well...when you figure out what your list of grievances are for committing armed revolt, .. let us know.

    k?

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  94. In the meantime...might be a good idea to put the armed revolt thing on the back burner for a while.

    ...at least until you figure out what it is you're revolting over.

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  95. Over a month later, and still Voltron aka Worfyboohoo still fails to produce the list he promised of "grievances" worthy of armed revolt. We don't see the list. Just voltron sneaking in to bury deep into the thread little replies saying "nuh uh" to everything. Voltron the coward. Voltron the weasel. Voltron the worm.

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  96. ..likes to go on the internet and rant about shooting liberals, the government, law enforcement, ....then run away and hide when called on it. What a puss.

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    1. Falsely reporting a crime to federal authorities is a felony;

      Please proceed dummytron .............

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