Monday, December 01, 2008

DEMPUBLICANS: OBAMA'S PURPLE TEAM

Obama's coalition government is not only politically and racially diverse but contains three whole women!! Obama is already proving to have great humility — which is the main ingredient of a great statesman, wise leader and public servant.

As a Progressive blog, for years we've been saying that the biggest sign of strength is humility — the opposite of "manly" pride, personal ego, aggression, combativeness and 'refusing to talk to your enemies. The opposite of all the qualities possessed by those who lied us into war and their enablers —  Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Ann Coulter...etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Anyone with the IQ of a houseplant can be violent and aggressive. It takes great courage to be a good listener — to be caring, gentle and still. It takes great strength to admit you don't know everything and to let new ideas in. Those of the "false macho bravura tribe" think that being in touch with one's feminine side is a sure sign of weakness in a man. It's actually the exact opposite.

On that note, what would possess Sean Hannity to spend his entire show discussing UFOs? He has nothing to fight against now, I guess. Maybe this will be the demise of rihgt-wing hate radio: the fact that Obama is not the most liberal member of Congress, nor is he a socialist, nor is he a scary Arab! Obama has combined the best of the left and the right so he can then go with his conscience, which may truly be even farther to the left. (For me, this is fine because when it comes to war and nuclear weapons, I follow what the Great Peacemaker says: "Love your enemies" and then you will have none!

And now we hear that GENERAL BARRY McCAFFREY is a WAR PROFITEER! He was pushing the U.S. to buy Eastern European tanks from Defense Solutions, not disclosing that he was paid millions by the same company.

WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN PATRIOTIC TO HAVE INVITED THE BIG THREE U.S. AUTO MAKERS TO BUILD THESE SAME TANKS -- THEREBY SAVING OUR AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY and THOUSANDS OF JOBS? Sure, but McCaffrey was on TV promoting his own interests, under the guise of being a "patriot" with America's best interests at heart!

In McCaffrey's recent MSNBC commentary, he exclaimed enthusiastically, "Thank God for the Abrams tank and . . . the Bradley fighting vehicle," and added for good measure that the "war isn't over until we've got a tank sitting on top of Saddam's bunker." In March alone, IDT [on whose Board of Directors McCaffrey sat] received more than $14 million worth of contracts relating to Abrams and Bradley machinery parts and support hardware. Is it even possible for there to be more incriminating evidence than this? (Source: NYT "One Man’s Military-Industrial-Media Complex" and Glen Greenwald, Salon.com


Here's what our resident blogger Mike has to say, and I think it's brilliant:

Never envisioned myself defending Gates..........but seriously it's the Sec of Defenses job to carry out the will of the president and ensure the mission he is given is successful and Gates resisted the idiocy of the Neo Cons as much as he could, he was a breath of fresh air after Rummy..........With Admiral Fallon run out by Bush's Neo Con warmongers Gates was pretty much ALL that stood between the Neo Cons attacking Iran and starting WW3.............Gates released NIE's and other intelligence reports that seriously undermined the credibility and ability of the Neo Cons to attack Iran...........if Gates had been any more defiant or under cut the NEo Con agenda any more he would have been fired and replaced with a blindly loyal Neo Con lacky and we would have had WW3.

I dont think your seeing WHY Obama would keep Gates...........its like a chess master thinking endgame at the beginning of the game...........Obama is thinking 2012 NOW............IF we keep Bush's Defense Sec and give him a new mission and Iraq gets fixed then its CLEAR to ALL iraq was a failure of Bush/Neo Con leadership and incompetence and the Neo Cons will not be able to claim the Demacrats surrendered in Iraq.........are they going to say Bush's defense surrendered??

He's marginalizing the Neo Con loons and giving Hilllary and Gates a chance to redeem themselves..........and lets not forget its their JOBS to carry out the Will of the President if they dont follow Obama's agenda and lead they can be fired.


I feel very reassured and safe with Obama and his coalition. Bill Richardson will be Commerce Secretary and Tom Daschle will be Health and Human Services Secretary. We had Senator Daschle on our show and he has written an amazing book on Health Care solutions.

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Associated Press - CHICAGO (AP) - Barack Obama announced a national security team Monday headed by Hillary Rodham Clinton who fought him long and bitterly for the presidency -- as Secretary of State and Robert Gates, the man who has been running two wars for George W. Bush striking choices by a president-elect who declared he wanted "strong personalities and strong opinions."

While the team may be a bit more centrist and some war opponents might even say hawkish than many Obama supporters might prefer, he said he still thinks 16 months is "the right time frame" for pulling most U.S. combat troops from Iraq. He added, as he often did in the presidential campaign's closing months, that he would consult with military commanders before setting a firm timetable.

Clinton, as secretary of state, and Gates, remaining as defense secretary, will be the most prominent faces besides Obama's own of the new administration's effort to revamp U.S. policy abroad.

"I assembled this team because I'm a strong believer in strong personalities and strong opinions," he said. "I think that's how the best decisions are made. ... So I'm going to be welcoming a vigorous debate inside the White House."

"But understand I will be setting policy as president," he added. He said he will be responsible for "the vision that this team carries out, and I expect them to implement that vision once decisions are made."

Quoting Harry S. Truman, Obama said: "The buck will stop with me."

Without naming Bush or directly referring to what administration critics see as America's tarnished world image over the past eight years, Obama called for a new strategy for dealing with global issues.

"We're going to have to bring the full force of our power, not only military but also diplomatic, economic, and political, to deal with those threats not only to keep America safe but also to ensure that peace and prosperity will exist around the world," he said.

Referring to his security team, Obama said: "They share my pragmatism about the use of power and my sense of purpose about America's role as a leader in the world."

60 comments:

  1. I'm feeling very good about Obama and his cabinet. I just wish I felt as good about Americans in general. I'm getting quite discouraged at the rhetoric and antics by both sides of the aisle.

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  2. Yes, I agree. But I really think Obama has it right.

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  3. I like Obama's choices.............so far I support everything our new president has done.............Bush spent 8 years polarizing both our nation and the world and fanning and stirring the flames of anger and hatred, those 8 years cant be repaired overnight!

    The Wingnuts are too far gone to hope for anyway!

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  4. I will say this though I realize Obama needs to foster cooperation, respect and trust to be able to successfully move forward on his inniatives to help the economy and the working class...........but I hope at some point even in 2011-2012 there are investigations into to the treasonous lies that got us involved in this horrific war, or that outed a covert CIA operative or that politicized the DOJ, or authorized torture, or the destruction of Habeous Corpus.......those compromise the very fabric of our society and SHOULD NEVER be overlooked.

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  5. I also think Obama and Congress should limit the scope of Presidential pardons so the repugs cant use it as a get out of jail free card to run a criminal empire and commit treason to their hearts content then stifle investigations and oversite and walk off into the sunset laughing and plotting to do it over again, like they do EVERYTIME they come to power!

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  6. Wow Mike, I just read your analysis of Gates on yesterday's blog thread and I have to say, it's brilliant.

    May I post it? The part about Obama thinking ahead to 2012 and having
    Gates on board means Obama can't take the total blame for failure in Iraq, since Gates was cleaning up Bush's mess. Maybe that's not what you were saying, but it struck me as a smart chess move.

    I mean if Obama suddenly got all Dems and left-wing pacifists in -- and then we had a terrible failure in Iraq - and appeared "soft on terror" -- we'd be losing every election from here on out.

    Now, they have to share the burden, or at least leave the burden on Bush's team. Although I like the fact that Gates is so reasonable and level-headed. And I like the fact that he leaked the NIE report.

    Also, I am posting a new tidbit. When Obama got the "secret book" (okay so I saw National Treasure, but there are some major secrets that every president becomes privy to once they are elected) something must have sobered him.

    Did anyone see his very first press conference when Candy Crowley asked him "what did you learn -- and did it scare you?" or something like that?

    He did imply that something surprised him and it was very serious.

    Or am I crazy? Does anyone remember this moment?

    Anyway, I have a very interesting addition to the blog to post later, some psychology about us, the way left and right react to everything.

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  7. Sure, go ahead Lydia!

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  8. Lydia said "I mean if Obama suddenly got all Dems and left-wing pacifists in -- and then we had a terrible failure in Iraq - and appeared "soft on terror" -- we'd be losing every election from here on out.

    Now, they have to share the burden, or at least leave the burden on Bush's team. Although I like the fact that Gates is so reasonable and level-headed. And I like the fact that he leaked the NIE report."


    EXACTLY..............that and also the fact that it clearly shows there was a crisis of leadership and that Bush and Cheney were the problem if things do actually work out!

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  9. Lydia said "Did anyone see his very first press conference when Candy Crowley asked him "what did you learn -- and did it scare you?" or something like that?"


    Yeah I saw that.............I'm sure he found out quite a bit that worried him..............LOL he looks greyer and more sober lately!

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  10. Gee Bart, I never knew anyone noticed. Actually I lived in a great deal of fear the past 3 years - for speaking out. Fear of being blacklisted too.

    TMZ, owned by FOX recently tried to destroy Heather Thomas for speaking out about 9/11. It was such a cheap shot. She is such a generous humanitarian and is always helping people.

    Since I've been writing and interviewing people like Tom Daschle, Pat Buchanan, Paul Begala, Sen. Patrick Murphy -- so maybe they can't say anything.

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  11. Lydia said "TMZ, owned by FOX recently tried to destroy Heather Thomas for speaking out about 9/11. It was such a cheap shot. She is such a generous humanitarian and is always helping people."

    What happened was it just a slimy smear article or was there more?

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  12. Lydia said...

    Gates on board means Obama can't take the total blame for failure in Iraq, since Gates was cleaning up Bush's mess. Maybe that's not what you were saying, but it struck me as a smart chess move

    Of course that presupposes our goal is to worry about who to blame, instead of actually fixing it, and instituting the change he talked about. Gates is just business as usual as far as I can see.

    I am not on board with the Gates choice but at this point I am willing to sit back and let Obama do what he's going to do, and see how it turns out. I disagree with a few of a his selections and like others, so at this point, and for the first time in a long time I can actually say that he's the President, he's no doubt smarter than me, and I will trust that he knows what he's doing.

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  13. Lydia Cornell said...

    Gee Bart, I never knew anyone noticed. Actually I lived in a great deal of fear the past 3 years - for speaking out. Fear of being blacklisted too.


    Really? I always just assumed you knew. After all thats why I wanted to help and such, back when we used to talk.

    I saw you as kind of a Natalie Maines, willing to speak out and risk damaging your career for what you believed, especially when you took flack from Ann Coulter and her dirty pool tricks by posting your private information.

    Back when we first started in here it wasn't healthy to speak out against Bush, but you did it anyway. That was cool.

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  14. It was one thing for us nobody's to come in and post quasi anonymously about our opposition to Bush and his corruption and bungling incompetence.

    It was another for Lydia Cornell, who had a public career at stake.

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  15. And a name that's been public since the 1980's.

    Thats a lot to put on the line for what you believe.

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  16. You should feel good about that.

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  17. I've been musing on our time here over the last three years, and all thats happened, been said, learned, etc, and how it turned out, and of course where we go from here.

    It's been an interesting three years to sure. You wouldn't think a blog would be so much a part of your life but you get to know people and such and it's been a really amazing 3 years. I've got a lot of regrets, a lot of things I'm glad for, and a lot of things I've learned or learned I've yet to learn. All in all I think it's been good.

    Yet even as Bush leaves office its as if he hasn't done enough to hurt America, and the world. He's frantically trying to reverse protections on labor standards, enviromental standards, even going so far as trying to lift mining restrictions in the GRAND CANYON! The oldest and most famous US landmark of all.

    It's as if Bush just wants to punish the country, and do as much harm as he can before leaving.

    If ever there was a man who needed to be spoken out against and or exposed, it was George W Bush.

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  18. What Bart Said!..............back then it took courage for celebritys to speak out and the few that did seemed to get squashed by the "powers that be" back then.................thats all changed now of course thanks to the few people who actually DID have the courage to speak out and expose what was rEALLY going on!

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  19. I've noticed how GWB is still pushing his damaging and dangerous agenda...........thats why I say he NEEDS to be prosecuted for treason and the Constitution NEEDS to be amended so another little brute like him cant steal the presidency and hide behind the Presidential pardon while torturing, lying us into wars and commmitting treason!

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  20. It's like he hasn't done enough harm. Like he just has to hurt us some more.

    Imagine.

    Mining near the Grand Canyon, ruining the Colorodo river!

    Of all the crazy things in the world why on earth would he want THAT to be added to his already rotten legacy???

    What is wrong with that man?

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  21. There are tribes living there, and endangered species that rely on the flow of the Colorado River.

    As if Bush hasn't done enough damage in his 8 year reign of terror, he now has to destroy the greatest natural resources and landmarks this country has to offer.

    The Grand Canyon and it's indigenous life have survived earthquakes, floods, erosion, fire, ...everything up until George W Bush.

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  22. I know it's wrong to hate, and I know we need to work on healing which is what President Obama is doing I think, but I just can't help it.

    I hate that man. I mean really hate him. I hate him. I hate his dirty no good administration. And I hate all he's done and still doing to hurt this country, and the planet.

    Guess I've still got a lot of work to do on myself. But I wish he would just go away and take his stupid incompetent crony administration with him.

    He's done enough damage for one man.

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  23. Why can't he just leave our nations natural resources alone?


    Just leave quietly out the rose garden exit, and leave the key's to Air Force One on the desk.

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  24. You cant forgive a sinner till they actually repent and stop sinning................and that asshole is still sinning and damaging our country in any way he pleases!

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  25. Your a better man than me because although I try not to hate MOST people.................I think he deserves to be hanging from the Hague!

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  26. I know I know, hate the sin, love the sinner.

    :|

    Its gonna take a heck of a lot of love for that.

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  27. I said that two years ago and you guys didnt much care for that...............but thats STILLhow I feel!

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  28. Mike said...

    Your a better man than me because although I try not to hate MOST people.................I think he deserves to be hanging from the Hague!


    Mike, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

    Federally issued orange would be more than sufficient for me.

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  29. It will go good with his eyes too.

    :|

    As long as he keeps them spinning counter clockwise.

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  30. Did anyone see the movie "W" it shows what a pathetic incompetent screw up GWB has been his entire life and still is!

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  31. "I know it's wrong to hate, and I know we need to work on healing which is what President Obama is doing I think, but I just can't help it.

    I hate that man. I mean really hate him. I hate him. I hate his dirty no good administration. And I hate all he's done and still doing to hurt this country, and the planet."



    Just wait till you grow up and realize that you really didn't have a legitimate cause to hate him either...

    Don't feel so bad though, most liberal hate is just hate for hates sake.

    Although it does make you more evil than those you hate doesn't it?

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  32. I'm older than you asswipe, and smarter too, so I suggest you crawl back to that sh%thole you call a blog to sell your lies and half truths.

    No one buys your bullshit here, and at least I'm man enough to admit I do hate, and know hate is wrong.

    Scum like you never admits anything that isn't self aggrandizing.

    Bush did more harm in 8 years in this country than any president ever, and since I'm OLDER than you, runt, I would know better than you of that fact.

    When I was working for a living you were still sucking on that crackwhores teat who bore you, so don't ever presume to teach or tell me anything Voltron.

    You're a liar, and you were a liar from the beginning.

    And a coward to boot, because when you couldn't handle getting you ass handed to you as Eric, even after going for help, you came back in under this dumbass voltron handle.

    You're a stupid and foul as you are ugly.

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  33. Assuming that Charles Manson lookalike photo you sent me was really you, and not your hillbilly lover or something.

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  34. And maybe someday your inbred brain will wake up, grow up, and realize that when I say I am not a liberal, it means I am not a liberal, you stupid f$#k.

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  35. Now, once more, in the spirit of the season, if you'd like to stop making stupid, antagonistic comments to me then I'll be happy to stop pointing out what an ignorant wretch you really are.

    In the spirit of the season, mind you.

    Your call.

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  36. "when I say I am not a liberal, it means I am not a liberal, you stupid f$#k."

    Hey if it walks like a duck...

    Or if you prefer the Cheech and Chong version:

    TASTE!


    All kidding aside, I know, just like Mikey. You're not a liberal, you just hate anyone and anything that isn't.

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  37. Oh and Bart?

    I have no hate in my heart. Not even for you.

    I happen to be man enough to be able to disagree with someone on substance, with out resorting to hating them. (or calling they or their lineage derogatory names...)

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  38. Voltron said...
    "when I say I am not a liberal, it means I am not a liberal, you stupid f$#k."

    Hey if it walks like a duck...

    Or if you prefer the Cheech and Chong version:

    TASTE!


    All kidding aside, I know, just like Mikey. You're not a liberal, you just hate anyone and anything that isn't."



    Here's something for your little brain to ponder you partisan Reich wing hack.................I have close friends and family members that are conservatives/repugs, Bart has family members and friends that are conservatives/repugs, Lydia is married to a conservative/repug.......................lets call it a hunch but i'm willing to bet that YOU dont have ANY close friends or familiy that are liberals/demacrats.


    So once again more strawman BS from a partisan political hack!

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  39. Bart said "And a coward to boot, because when you couldn't handle getting you ass handed to you as Eric, even after going for help, you came back in under this dumbass voltron handle."


    He's a political operative............think about it he asks for "help" and in comes Crusty, Troll Tex, Moo Moo and Fascist Fan............interesting isnt it.

    And they were hacking remember when you got locked out of the blog as did Clif and I.........there were other things that Clif and I BOTH experienced but I wont say them publicly this guy is an operative and he had hackers and trolls working with him!

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  40. Isnt it Ironic he mocks YOU and Lydia saying its an OUTRAGEOUS Conspiracy theory that him and his troll buddies were hacking but in the same breat accuses you guys of putting keyloggers, worms and malicious codes on his computer..........Repug=Hippocrite!

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  41. So your comment that we "HATE" repugs/conservatives is BS!

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  42. The idiot said...


    Hey if it walks like a duck...



    That's right dickhead.

    If they don't agree with you and your reichstag crew, then they must be liberals.

    Keep drinking the koolaid dumbass.

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  43. Voltron said...


    I have no hate in my heart. Not even for you.



    You'd have to actually "have" a heart to have hate in it.

    It's probably located somewhere down towards your ass.

    :|

    Where you keep your brain.

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  45. Dicktron said...



    I happen to be man enough to be able to disagree with someone on substance, with out resorting to hating them. (or calling they or their lineage derogatory names...)


    A, you aren't a man.

    And B, just because you more carefully guild your insults makes them no less derogatory.

    Or did you think telling a 50 year old man "when he grows up" wasn't an insult?

    What you are is a liar.

    You were a liar from the beginning.

    And I'll take my open air insults to your lying tongue, any day of the week.

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  46. You need to check your Hubris at the door Voltron do you realize GWB has been first a lots of things..............like First President to have 2 Recessions during his Presidency since Nixon, First to try to legitimize torture as National policy, first to essentially torch the US Constitution calling it a "Goddamn Piece of Paper", first to out a CIA operative for political gain, first to try to completely politicize the DOJ, First to squander a surplus into the BIGGEST DEFICIT in recorded history, first to destroy the economy with cronnyism and incompetence since Hovver........etc!

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  47. Mike said...

    Here's something for your little brain to ponder you partisan Reich wing hack.................I have close friends and family members that are conservatives/repugs, Bart has family members and friends that are conservatives/repugs, Lydia is married to a conservative/repug.......................lets call it a hunch but i'm willing to bet that YOU dont have ANY close friends or familiy that are liberals/demacrats.


    Well said.

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  48. Voltron said: "Don't feel so bad though, most liberal hate is just hate for hates sake."

    I'm not sure on this, Voltron. From the liberal point of view, my hatred towards people on the other side is based on what I view as a total lack of respect, lack of awareness of the world around them, hypocracy, and a lack of intelligence. For instance, I can't help but compare a lot of conservatives to Nero from ancient Rome. Fiddling away convincing himself that all is well while the city burns down around him. Bush is like that -- loosening all these restrictions on the environment and public safety just so his buddies can save some money -- not having a clue about how much damage he's causing.

    That Chambliss guy is a perfect example of a hypocrite. When the Republicans were in charge, he's whining about how unconstitutional filibusters are when it comes to judge appointments, but as soon as the Democrats take the reigns, he's pledging to use it whenever possible. Look at Dick Cheney, when he was Sec of Defense during Bush Sr's term, he gave this song and dance about how you go to war with the army of the prior president and how the first thing he did after we won the first Gulf War was call Reagan and thank him. Meanwhile, when the armed forces did so well in Afghanistan, did he get on the phone and thank Clinton? Nope.

    As for the lack of respect, I've made my feelings known on gay marriage and universal healthcare. There is no legitimate reason for denying people of either one ... in my liberal opinion.


    Conservatives on the other hand tend to hate things just because they are different or because they disagree with them. Blacks, homosexuals, liberals ... read any of Ann Coulter's books and you get a perfect example of the irrationality of Conservative hatred. For that matter, look at what Coulter did to Lydia. There's no excuse or reason for it besides just pure irrational hatred and lack of civility.

    And for the record, Voltron, I dont hate you. I actually respect and like you -- in my opinion, you make good informed arguments and I have learned a lot from reading your responses and posts. I dont agree with a lot of your opinions but I love the fact that you have them. You have helped me become a stronger liberal and for that I thank you.

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  49. Well looky here, the code pink boys are here.

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  50. Good post MCH i've written very similar things...........Voltrob "CAN" be interest to debate but he also tends to lie and be just as big a hippocrite as his masters are!

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  51. Well I disagree Mike.

    There's nothing interesting or acceptable in "debating" Voltron on anything. His entire foundation is built on lies, half truths and deception. He has lied since day one, first coming in to cause chaos in the blog by bringing in right wing trolls to attack me, and when he screwed up, getting his ass handed to him by me, he stooped to further deception, coming back in under his current handle.

    And whenever he posts, the scumbag calling itself rusty usually is not far behind, who also merely comes in to insult, mock and usurp the blog.

    I find nothing of merit in either of them.

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  52. I have no problem finding common ground with republicans but these scumbags are not republicans.

    They are internet trolls who's only goal is to mock, ridicule and generally create distress and disruption in any liberal or left wing blogs.

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  53. BARTLEBEE said...
    I have no problem finding common ground with republicans but these scumbags are not republicans.

    They are internet trolls who's only goal is to mock, ridicule and generally create distress and disruption in any liberal or left wing blogs."


    Yep!!!!!

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  54. I used to think Voltron was interesting to debate as well..........NOW I lean towards him being just a troll that spins Reich Wing talking points and denys facts!

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  55. Rusty, on the other, hand, is entirely different.

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  56. dolty farted,

    Just wait till you grow up and realize that you really didn't have a legitimate cause to hate him either...

    Don't feel so bad though, most liberal hate is just hate for hates sake.

    Although it does make you more evil than those you hate doesn't it?


    No, we shouldn't hate the most hated man on Earth since Adolf Hitler, a man responsible for the killings of (at least) tens of thousands of people who had no quarrel with us, a man who signed off on torturing often-innocent detainees, and last but not least, a man who drove this country into a third-world ditch so he could fatten up the coffers of his peers.

    But you know, on the scale of evil, he's probably not as bad as his worshipers are. He couldn't have done it without scum like YOU, dolty.

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  57. JollyRoger said...

    a man responsible for the killings of (at least) tens of thousands of people who had no quarrel with us,


    Exactly. In fact current estimates depending on the agency questioned are between 500,000 and 4 million dead.

    If ever there was a reason to hate that would be one.

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  58. Once Bush is out of office and once international access to Iraq is opened up we're going to find out the true horror of our "spreading democracy" in Iraq.

    Hitler slaughtered 6 million Jews and millions more soldiers lost their lives due to his war.

    Bush it seems is working hard to catch up to him.

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  59. NEWSFLASH: BUSH APOLOGIZES FOR THE WAR!!

    But please read my take on new blog thread.

    thank you for leaving comments on the new thread.
    xoxo

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  60. The new Secretary of Agriculture needs to be pro-small farmer, pro-organic and definitely pro-community supported agriculture. Obama can make some real and lasting changes in agriculture and food policy. Here's to good eatin'!

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