Saturday, July 07, 2007

Thinking Blogger Award




We are happy to announce that the Lydia Cornell blog has been tagged with the "Thinking Blogger Award" by our friends Chuck and Karen at their widely popular blog The Divided States Of Bushmerika 2.

Thank you Chuck and Karen for your kind words and your regular comments on this blog. As many of you know we now have to choose 5 blogs that make us think. So many have been chosen in the past that we want to pick some that make us think, and maybe our viewers haven't discovered, or rediscovered yet.

THE RULES ARE AS FOLLOWS:
1. If, and only if, you get tagged, write a post with links to 5 blogs that make you think.
2. Link to this post so that people can easily find the exact origin of the meme.
3. Optional: Proudly display the ‘Thinking Blogger Award’ with a link to the post that you wrote.

Last Left Turn Before Hooterville is a popular blog by good friend Alicia Morgan. Alicia writes about political matters with wisdom and humor. Alicia is an excellent writer.

Watergate Summer marks the recent return to the blogosphere of Enigma4Ever from her exile of being a whistle blower in the recent Attorneygate scandals that rocked the Bush administration. Check this site out. It is worth the read.

Morning Martini is the popular blog by our new friend Pissed off Patricia. Patricia has become a regular commenter here and her articles on her blog are worth the read.

We welcome the return of famed blogger Neal Shakespeare and his way of wit and humor that has always made us think.

Our last entry is Left of Centrist is a growing blog put out by Robert Rouse and his team of contributors. Is has updated political stories and is worth checking out.

Thank you for viewing and making your comments on the Lydia Cornell blog. Your thoughtful comments are appreciated, and look for many big additions and new features with this blog, as we bring you fresh insight into different areas of politics and life. Please come back.

247 comments:

  1. Thank you Lydia and I am honored to be mentioned. I have been tagged several times before for this and I passed each time. I jokingly say that I have had my meme shot and am now immune to memes.

    Again, thank you so much for thinking of me. Now I'm back off to continue watching Live Earth. I can't remember seeing and hearing this much music without someone asking me to donate money to a cause. All they are asking is that we stop being such pigs with our earth. I don't think that request is too much for any of us.

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  2. Well while you're all "thinking", here's a few things to ponder about liberalism...

    When the MSM designate someone an ultra-conservative, this actually means conservative. And when they refer to a moderate conservative, they mean a liberal who is a Republican in name only, such as Chuck Hagel. Of course, the MSM's favorite Republican is John McCain, because he is a maverick, meaning that he holds a lot of positions that are to the left of his party. This is in contrast to Joe Lieberman, who is a pariah for holding positions to the right of his party.

    A "moderate judge" is one who will strike a balance between what the Constitution says and what the left would like it to say.

    The Democrats are the pro-choice party, meaning the party that wants to choose how to direct your retirement, where to send your children to school, and how best to spend your money. They also want a fairness doctrine to make sure that the free marketplace of ideas doesn't accidentally result in fairness.

    When liberals accuse you of suppressing their freedom of speech, it means that you are criticizing them, or perhaps even censoring them. But when you censor conservatives or suppress their freedom of speech, it is called a speech code. Calling President Bush a liar is a courageous act of speaking truth to power, while criticizing the liberal stance on the war is questioning their patriotism. Likewise, dissent is the highest form of patriotism, unless it is directed against global warming hysteria. Global warming is what will destroy the earth if it isn't first destroyed by global cooling.

    Evil, of course, does not exist. George Bush, however, is evil. Speaking of things that don't exist, there is no such thing as the liberal media. However, the conservative media are any media that are not liberal. There is no global jihad against Christians and Jews, but Christians and Jews who think so are more dangerous than the jihadis.

    A homeless person is what you call a chronically mentally ill person during a Republican administration. Similarly, during a Democratic administration, deficit spending is investing in our children's future. During a Republican administration it is called mortgaging our children's future. Tax cuts involve stealing the government's money in order to give it away to taxpayers. Democrats will not raise taxes. Rather, they will just repeal President Bush's tax cuts.

    Racial profiling refers to common sense police work in identifying likely suspects. It is not allowed. Affirmative action refers to government enforced academic or occupational racial profiling. You are a racist if you don't endorse this kind of racial profiling. Likewise, civil rights are special rights for designated victims. A civil rights activist is a lobbyist for special rights for his ethnic victim group.

    Blacks are people who are helpless and bumbling victims without the support and assistance of white liberals. Black conservatives are people who are abused and victimized by the left for refusing to be helpless and bumbling victims.

    Multiculturalism, of course, involves seeing beauty in all cultures but your own. Diversity is the philosophy that treasures neo-Marxists of all skin colors and sexual deviations. When a liberal uses the word tolerance, this actually means approval and celebration of differences. If you merely accept differences, this means you are intolerant of them. For example, if you only tolerate homosexuality, you are a homophobe.

    Everyone in Hollywood believes the same thing. That's why they are such rebellious individualists.

    A Vietnam war veteran is a baby killer, but a conservative who avoided being a baby killer is a chicken hawk. A war hero is a baby killer such as John Kerry who opposes the Iraq war. A quagmire, of course, is any war opposed by liberals. Otherwise, you will never hear the word "quagmire" used in human discourse.

    Bilingual education involves the difficult achievement of learning nothing in two languages. It is often employed to teach illegal immigrants, who are undocumented Democratic voters. Feminism is the celebration of masculine women who have angrily overcome their femininity, femininity being another category of oppressed victimhood. If you are a man who loves femininity, you are a chauvinist.

    Homosexuality is a genetically caused condition that renders one incapable of engaging in sexual relations with the opposite sex. Its opposite, heterosexuality, is an arbitrary gender identification caused by cultural conditioning. Similarly, there is no such thing as the homosexual lifestyle, while queer studies departments engage in the study of the homosexual lifestyle.

    Moral relativism is the absolute belief that no beliefs are absolute. Pornography is a type of expression that is protected by the first amendment, while religion, especially Christian religion, is a dangerous type of expression from which we are protected by the first amendment.


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  3. Volt said "A "moderate judge" is one who will strike a balance between what the Constitution says and what the left would like it to say."

    Yeah.....i guess thats why Bush, Rove and Gonzo tried to stack the justice Department with Reich Wing Ideologues who put party before the Constitution, Rule of Law and Justice for all.............Nice try there slick!!!!

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  4. Volt said "The Democrats are the pro-choice party, meaning the party that wants to choose how to direct your retirement, where to send your children to school, and how best to spend your money. They also want a fairness doctrine to make sure that the free marketplace of ideas doesn't accidentally result in fairness."


    Lets see so you are saying GWB DIDNT want to choose how people direct their retirements.............try again bud.

    And it looks to me like YOUR DECIDER is choosing how best to spend our money he is choosing to spend it on endless war and death and redistributing wealth from the working class to the corporate elite......i'd love to see you try to counter those facts there Volty.

    Oh and Volt there is no freemarketplace of ideas THATS why the Fairness Doctrine is needed, the Reich Wing Now control the MSM and through it access to imformation throw all the MEDIA EMPIRES that the FCC and SEC allowed them to create when they fell asleep at the wheel during Reich Wing Administrations(mostly) instead of doing their job to insure diversity of opinion, competitive markets and consumer choice.

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  5. Mike:

    Isn't that just like a troll. Someone does something nice for Lydia, and he gets on here spreading his dribble to mess up her day.

    Voltron the troll must really hate Lydia.

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  6. Volt said "When liberals accuse you of suppressing their freedom of speech, it means that you are criticizing them, or perhaps even censoring them. But when you censor conservatives or suppress their freedom of speech, it is called a speech code. Calling President Bush a liar is a courageous act of speaking truth to power, while criticizing the liberal stance on the war is questioning their patriotism. Likewise, dissent is the highest form of patriotism, unless it is directed against global warming hysteria. Global warming is what will destroy the earth if it isn't first destroyed by global cooling."


    It wasnt liberals who made "so called" "free speech zones" sometimes miles away from public events to stifle free speech.

    Hey genius you dont question the liberal stance on a war and it is infered as questioning there patriotism..........you outright question their Patriotism Pinnochio!

    Dissent is fine Volty you want to debate Global warming debate facts with unbiased sources, rather than attacking messenger personally.....which is ALL YOU CLOWNS DO because the facts are clearly NOT on your side.

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  7. He just came to mess up Lydia's special day.

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  8. Volt said "Evil, of course, does not exist. George Bush, however, is evil. Speaking of things that don't exist, there is no such thing as the liberal media. However, the conservative media are any media that are not liberal. There is no global jihad against Christians and Jews, but Christians and Jews who think so are more dangerous than the jihadis."


    There you go putting words in peoples mouths just like a dishonest troll..............Evil CERTAINLY does exist and the NEO CONS are the epitome of evil.

    You are right there is NO such thing as the liberal media, the MSM is definately Conservative controlled and biased and supports the Conservative agenda....and anyone who thinks the MSM leans to the left is CLEARLY a fool and/or a liar.

    I NEVER said there is NO global Jihad, there is and GWB and his pack of Neo Con fools are pouring gasoline on it and fanning the flames of hatred and nurturing them so they grow........Bush has done more to help the jihad grow and recruit than any man in history!

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  9. Volt said "A homeless person is what you call a chronically mentally ill person during a Republican administration. Similarly, during a Democratic administration, deficit spending is investing in our children's future. During a Republican administration it is called mortgaging our children's future. Tax cuts involve stealing the government's money in order to give it away to taxpayers. Democrats will not raise taxes. Rather, they will just repeal President Bush's tax cuts."

    Funny coincidence isnt it how poverty and homelessness seem to increase during repug administrations.

    Another funny coincidence we had a surplus rather than deficit spending during the last democratic Administration.

    And giving tax cuts to the corporate elite and the ultra wealthy while cutting education and investment in the future, while good paying jobs are oursourced to low wage countries Certainly is mortgaging our childrens future unless your a brain dead idealogue.


    Typical repug saying the Dems will raise taxes when the TRUTH is they are proposing to raise taxes on the super wealthy top 1%-5% of earners (who have benefited from GWB's tax cuts disproportionately to the working class), to pay for tax cuts for 80% of our nation...........so its dishonest to characterize a tax cut for 80% of our country or almost 240 million Americans as a tax increase its more Reich Wing spin and BS talking points with no substance.

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  10. Volt said "Racial profiling refers to common sense police work in identifying likely suspects. It is not allowed. Affirmative action refers to government enforced academic or occupational racial profiling. You are a racist if you don't endorse this kind of racial profiling."

    There you go assigning a position to people like a dishonest troll again.........that is not my position on either issue.

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  11. Bush gives millions of dollars to the "religious right" groups under the guise as "faith based initiative."

    Why these "religious right" groups use the money for anything but the homeless and poor is beyond me.

    But so is any neocon plan.

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  12. Volt said "A Vietnam war veteran is a baby killer, but a conservative who avoided being a baby killer is a chicken hawk. A war hero is a baby killer such as John Kerry who opposes the Iraq war. A quagmire, of course, is any war opposed by liberals. Otherwise, you will never hear the word "quagmire" used in human discourse."


    Never said a Vietnam Vet is a babykiller thats the position you and your sockpuppets assign to us...........

    As for a Quagmire........I believe your hero Dick Cheney used that turm when discussing why invading Iraq would be a mistake.......so your once again proven wrong since one of your own morons used it in discourse.

    Oh and BTW Volt the ONLY wars most liberals dID NOT SUPPORT where the unwinnable ones that WERE quagmires!

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  13. Qaugmires are neocon thoughts that spread into the hateful dribble that oozes from their pores.

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  14. Volt said "Moral relativism is the absolute belief that no beliefs are absolute. Pornography is a type of expression that is protected by the first amendment, while religion, especially Christian religion, is a dangerous type of expression from which we are protected by the first amendment."


    Lets See the only places we are "protected" from Religion are in education and government........The Founding Fathers, a group of Men who value freedom and Justice for all and are MUCH smarter than the current dunces said that religion should be kept out of government and schools.

    Now as far as I can tell pornography isnt a part of our education or government...............oh sorry, Dick Cheney was alledly on the DC Maddams list............oops silly me thats adultery not pornography, theres so many sins and corruption scandals involving repugs its hard to keep track!!!!!

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  15. I'll be back Later Volt............I'm not finished with you yet!!!!!!!!

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  16. Hey guys I think it is nice Lydia received this award she really deserves it

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  17. Congradulations on the well deserved award Lydia..........sorry i got carried away and helped the troll hijack the thread!

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  18. Mike:

    You aren't the one trying to derail Lydia's day.

    It was the troll who claims to hold no malice toward Lydia, but shows the opposite, every chance he gets.

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  19. Mike:

    Did you read Patriots latest article?

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  20. Congratulations Lydia -- and Voltron attempting to ruin it just proves how effective you are. A Redumblican's only weapon against truth is character assassination.

    Oh, and by the way, Voltron, if you're going to use our views to try to ridicule us, at least get them right. You were way off. You didnt even pretend to sound believable.

    Idiot.

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  21. Mike said: Now as far as I can tell pornography isnt a part of our education or government........

    Sure it is, dont you remember the Kenneth Starr report? Millions of tax-payer dollars went into publishing that little piece of eroticism. Oh wait, that's right -- it was really investigating lying under oath which apparently isnt a crime which means the impeachment didnt really happen. Sorry, my bad.

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  22. Newsflash Voltron.


    Your 15 minutes are just about up.

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  23. To be quite honest, I didn't even bother to read Voltron's post. His post is nothing more than a tedious, homogenised, chameleon-esque scribble which amounts to nothing more than the demented cacophonous racket of a drugged lunatic banging loudly on kitchen pots and pans.

    Lydia, congratulations! I'm happy for you!

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  24. To put the world right in order, we must first put the nation in order, we must first put the family in order, to put the family in order, we must first cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.

    Confucius

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  25. Congratulations Lydia! :)

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  26. Lydia and Larry - thanks for the nod! It was very nice of you to think of me. The thought is much appreciated.

    Also, who in the world is going to take someone seriously who names himself after a bad 80's animation character from Japan? I'm just sayin' . . . :)

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  27. Robert:

    Lydia was happy to mention you and she is glad to have you as a regular commenter on her blog.

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  28. Wow...I am honored to be mentioned ...wow or even noticed....and with such other great bloggers...I too have been Live Earth all day, working on my yard earlier you could hear the MUSIC floating out of windows....Now if Music could just Wake Up the People to the Reality of Our Earth....that would be something....

    Lydia....Thank you for thinking of me as a Thinking Blogger...I just write what is in my heart and on my mind and I treat my blog as Soulfood served in a small corner coffee shop...a place for people to Connect....I have come here and read you blog...( hmm, I guess that makes me a lurker).But keep up all of your great work, being a mom, writing, comedy, and radio...and Thinking...

    I love the idea of Awarding Thinking....wonderful...

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  29. Hi Emigma,

    Hope you are enjoying the concerts, and now you have some choosing to do.

    Congrats.

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  30. Ooops....Sorry I edited a sentence out of my Blog....

    "Lydia Congratulations on your Thinking Blog...We women are so grateful to have you in Blogland.."

    phew...that is better...

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  31. Yo dolty pull you head your out of your sphincter muscle son,

    When the MSM designate someone an ultra-conservative, this actually means conservative.

    Wrong id-jet conservatives USED to be against the goberment getting involved in somebody’s bedroom or their private lives, the ultra- conservatives failed that test

    And when they refer to a moderate conservative, they mean a liberal who is a Republican in name only, such as Chuck Hagel.

    wrong again son, the conservatives like Barry Gold water wouild tell you your full of pure unadulterated bullsh*t

    Of course, the MSM's favorite Republican is John McCain, because he is a maverick, meaning that he holds a lot of positions that are to the left of his party. This is in contrast to Joe Lieberman, who is a pariah for holding positions to the right of his party.

    McCain’s positions are much closer to what Goldwater his mentor espoused, and even closer to Reagan then the idiots trying to destroy this country today. Lieberman is just a political lying hack who is doing Israel’s biding to the determent of this country he swore to serve.

    A "moderate judge" is one who will strike a balance between what the Constitution says and what the left would like it to say.

    Too bad the reichwing attacks moderate judges like BUSH did is giving Irving Libby a get out of Jail Free pass. For crimes against this country, which is usually called TREASON.

    The Democrats are the pro-choice party,

    Right so far; the re-pubie anal retentive are the anti choice people.

    meaning the party that wants to choose how to direct your retirement,

    No son it is the reich wing hucksters who wanna FORCE people to put their hard earned money in the scam called investing in wall street and then allow the wall street investment bankers to pump up their profits with special charges, fees costs and penalties, so in the end the “investor” who WAS NOT given a choice, gets fleeced just like the sheeple who invested in Enron, Worldcom, Tyco, etc.....

    where to send your children to school,

    No widdle boy, they want a truly EQUAL education for ALL, one that allows the CHILD to learn the truths of SCIENCE and other people so they can function on the world and not become another BRAINWASHED home schooled id-jet which it seems you are.

    and how best to spend your money.


    Lets see, Reagan began the idea of borrowing from FUTURE GENERATIONS to spend their money because he knew more then they would about what they would face, Bush 41 followed suit, but it was the MORON in the white House who took the cake in spending others money against their will by borrowing up to one trillion dollars to fight an illegal war and HAND the future generations a debt along with hundreds of thousands of wounded veterans of Bush’s illegal war who need treatment and compensation for their combat disabilities.

    They also want a fairness doctrine to make sure that the free marketplace of ideas doesn't accidentally result in fairness.

    another OUTRIECH LIE. The fairness doctrine mandates equal time for opposing views, which the reichwing under Reagan (remember him he was the FOOLE who decided he could spend future generations money with out their permission?) Terminated the fairness doctrine so they could allow their spin and lie machine unfettered access to the air waves to spread their propaganda with no fact checking or counter view point6 allowed.

    When liberals accuse you of suppressing their freedom of speech, it means that you are criticizing them, or perhaps even censoring them.

    No stupid it means the reichwing goberment forces people into small out of the way areas to voice their rights to speech where the MSM and others are not.

    It also means you clowns post stupid dishonest rants and refuse to allow the truth to be exposed like Dead eye has done with his energy task force, what he is doing which is in opposition to the US Constitution, and Law, and Bush’s signing statements.

    But when you censor conservatives or suppress their freedom of speech, it is called a speech code.

    No son the reichwing OWNS most of the MSM which means they are NOT censored, they have MANY corporate funded outlets which they use the PUBLIC air waves to spread their untrue hatefilled bile.......

    Calling President Bush a liar is a courageous act of speaking truth to power,

    DAMN RIGHT SKIPPY.........

    while criticizing the liberal stance on the war is questioning their patriotism

    when you choose to attack a liberal who KNOWS volumes more that your gutless chicken shit chicken hawk as will ever know about military operations and military history, your doing EXACTLY that BOZO.

    Nice to see you ADMIT it finally son.


    . Likewise, dissent is the highest form of patriotism,

    Well considering the FOUNDING FATHERS thought so, I would tread lightly here son, other wise you might be advocating the TORY position in 1776.

    unless it is directed against global warming hysteria. Global warming is what will destroy the earth if it isn't first destroyed by global cooling.

    Sorry son but Global warming is a scientific position, except for the home schooled id-jets who worship the worst president ever, and HE is as wrong on Global warming as the was on the WMD’s, the global cooling spin is your current meme to derail the TRUTH and attempt to attack something when you have NO real facts to use. Typical son.

    Evil, of course, does not exist. George Bush, however, is evil.

    son could YOU clowns get it straight do you want us to be afraid of “evil” or not?

    Damn son you’d think your trying to spread some stupid reichwing propaganda here.

    Speaking of things that don't exist, there is no such thing as the liberal media.

    No son there is NOT

    Fox is owned buy News Corp owned by the reichwing media king Rupert Murdoch.

    NBC, CNBC, MSNBC is owned by General Electric a MAJOR defense contractor.

    ABC is owned by Walt Disney inc., a very right leaning corporation, which funded a major dishonest hit job last fall to try in vain to prop up the reichwing message before the election because the reichwing message and kool aid has lost a lot of people lately.

    CBS, and CNN are owned by VIACOM, another large corporation who’s corporate heads use their funds to enable the reichwing spin to dom9inate the airwaves especially when it comes to the attack machine on liberals, and anything which questions the propaganda coming out oof the Neo-cons and Israel.


    However, the conservative media are any media that are not liberal.

    Sorry son but in the last three decades the right has spent quite a bit of time and money getting control of the media so their illegal criminal anti-American plans could be hatched and spread to the determent of the American people who have suffered with the outsourcing of their jobs, watching their sons and daughters sent off to war based on a lie, and having their entire standard of living undermined for corporate profits over everything else.

    There is no global jihad against Christians and Jews, but Christians and Jews who think so are more dangerous than the jihadis.

    Damn son you’re a IDIOT, there is a MINORITY of the Islam peoples who want to do the west harm, they were based for the most part in Afghanistan and Pakistan, pre 9-11, and when Bush attacked their base of power EVERY person conservatives liberals and independents were totally on board with him,

    HOWEVER when he ALLOWED Osama to escape,

    THEN;

    told the American people along with the entire world he(Bush) didn’t think about Osama much, he lost most of us, because it was apparent that he wanted to attack Iraq which had NOTHING to do with 9-11, but when he ILLEGALLY INVADED a sovereign nation because Bush claimed the RIGHT to depose Saddam, he was doing exactly what Saddam had done when Saddam Invaded Kuwait. Thus Bush is just as much a CRIMINAL as Saddam ever was.

    A homeless person is what you call a chronically mentally ill person during a Republican administration.

    Well son, since Ronald “depends wearing” Reagan dumped hundreds of t5housands of people out fo community mental health care facilities, that would be exactly that.

    Similarly, during a Democratic administration, deficit spending is investing in our children's future.

    Son IF you spend the money on schools to teach those children, health care FOR those children, infrastructure so their parents can have better jobs, and saving the environment so the children can enjoy the planet I would say that statement is CORRECT.

    During a Republican administration it is called mortgaging our children's future.

    Well widdle boy the reichwing ALWAYS want to cut taxes, and things the children NED to build large and more weapons to fight wars which those children end up fighting for the rich, and given Bush has wasted $500,000,000,000 directly in Iraq all borrowed form the children and their education, health care, environment protection, and better infrastructure and jobs for their parents, I would say that is also correct..

    What Bush is also handing these children is HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF WOUNDED disabled veterans who will need medical care for their ENTIRE lives, and a disability pension for the ones unable to work, because of their service in Bush’s illegal war.

    And THAT Bill could end up being 2-3 TRILLION dollars

    Tax cuts involve stealing the government's money in order to give it away to taxpayers.

    No son tax cuts for the rich when you use the Social security tax to pay for half of them is STEALING from the poor and middle class to FUND the rich greed.

    In the end all the money Bush ET AL has stolen from SS to fund their ill-conceived tax cuts are going to cost those children YOUR so worried about 3 to 4 times as much as the tax cuts benefited the rich.

    Democrats will not raise taxes. Rather, they will just repeal President Bush's tax cuts.

    Damn skippy son, stop STEALING form future generations so the rich can avoid their real costs they need to PAY for the society they are living in and in many cases OFF of. The Bush Tax cuts added over 3 trillion dollars to the debt which future generations will have to find some way to pay for with out the industrial base which Bush ET Al allowed to be outsourced to China so Wal-Mart and some large corporations could make a few extra bucks for a couple of years.

    Racial profiling refers to common sense police work in identifying likely suspects.

    NO son racial profiling is LOOKING for only one race or ethnic trait to look for criminals, instead of doing a little more work and real policing instead of using short cuts which end up HURTING thousands of innocent people to find a few criminals.

    It is not allowed.

    Damn skippy son, discrimination WITH OUT cause is illegal, if the police have PROOF they can arrest people if NOT they need to do the HARD work to get that proof instead of setting up an entire RACE for illegal immoral special inspections and harassment.

    I though we stopped using RACE as a police technique back in 1945........

    Affirmative action refers to government enforced academic or occupational racial profiling.

    No son affirmative action is an attempt to LEVEL the playing field after CENTURIES of discrimination which has placed certain ethnic groups and in some cases WOMEN at a distinct disadvantage because of the results of discrimination of the RICH and dominate culture. Are YOU that stupid you actually believe the crap YOU spewed here son?

    You are a racist if you don't endorse this kind of racial profiling.

    NOT racial profiling son, because it is NOT a legal attack on individuals to deny them their freedom based on their race..........

    Likewise, civil rights are special rights for designated victims. A civil rights activist is a lobbyist for special rights for his ethnic victim group.

    Since the country USED to use Jim Crow laws to FORCE people out of their rightful position, something is needed to compensate so the playing field could be corrected from the CENTURIES of discrimination.

    Blacks are people who are helpless and bumbling victims without the support and assistance of white liberals. Black conservatives are people who are abused and victimized by the left for refusing to be helpless and bumbling victims.

    Nice to see just how despicable your willing to stereotype this situation and totally ignore the very real history of the centuries of racial discrimination by the dominate white Culture against those people they dominate culture decided were less than a person, even as other members of cultures like the Germans, Irish, Italians and Eastern Europeans were allowed to move out of their places as undesirable immigrants, the black were forced by LAWS into situation which as recent as half a century ago Governors of states were opposing Federal troops to integrate schools, and people went to jail for sitting in the front of the bus if they were black.

    Multiculturalism, of course, involves seeing beauty in all cultures but your own.

    NO stupid multi-cultural is seeing others as equals to you and seeing their culture as just a different way of living by people who were raised that way.

    Diversity is the philosophy that treasures neo-Marxists of all skin colors and sexual deviations.

    That is one of the DUMBEST statement I have ever seen. It adds a dash of racism, attacks on people who do not worship the corporate state, and slings mud at people because of their sexual lifestyle.

    Diversity is just allowing different people to be DIFFERENT...nothing more.

    When a liberal uses the word tolerance, this actually means approval and celebration of differences. If you merely accept differences, this means you are intolerant of them. For example, if you only tolerate homosexuality, you are a homophobe.

    Sorry son but since the reichwing has raised hundreds of millions of dollars attacking gays, and based their 2004 election strategy on making gays the scapegoats of the hatred of people LIKE YOU, this statement is a non sequetar....

    Everyone in Hollywood believes the same thing. That's why they are such rebellious individualists.

    Michael Moore and Charleston Heston believe the same thing?

    Rosy O’Donnell and Tom Sellack believe the same thing?

    The people who run Walt Disney studios and Martin Scorsese believe the same thing?

    Feel ,stupid YET?

    YOU should with dumb comment like that one son.

    A Vietnam war veteran is a baby killer, but a conservative who avoided being a baby killer is a chicken hawk.

    No son the people Who lied and forced the Vietnam war on America, the Dulles brothers, the reichwingers of the 50"s who LIED about what was really happening there and sent in the CIA to try to destabilize the country because they wanted to control Vietnam just like Bush and Cheney wanted to control Iraq, were the ones who unleashed the bombers which bombed whole villages babies and their parents.

    The chicken shit chicken hawks are the gutless punks who did everything they had to do to stay OUT of Vietnam even though they supported the war but not with their sorry asses. Today they support an illegal immoral attack on Iraq and it’s people just like the Dulles Brothers set Vietnam up, and it’s people for the attack of the United States military to enrich a few corporations, and set up another client state with a puppet government just like Bush has tried to do in Iraq.


    A war hero is a baby killer such as John Kerry who opposes the Iraq war.

    John Kerry never killed any babies son, and he did a hell of a lot more that George W Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Condi Rice, Stephen Hadley, Cambone, Elliot Abrams, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Riely, Rick Santarum, Joe Lieberman, Richard Shelby, Chambliss, Dan Quayle, Mitch McConnell, Trent Lott, Jon Kyl, John Ensign, John Boehner, Roy Blunt, Adam Putnam, Thaddeus McCotter, Tom Cole, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Tom Delay, George Allen, William Frist, John Ashcroft. Newt Gingrich, Michael Savage, John Wayne, Kenneth Starr, Ann Coulter, Michael Medved, Ralph Reed, and YOU, you chicken shit chicken hawk, ever did,

    BTW foole so did Al Gore, Max Cleland, Ted Kennedy, George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Jim Webb, John Murtha among other people, YOU like to attack.

    A quagmire, of course, is any war opposed by liberals. Otherwise, you will never hear the word "quagmire" used in human discourse.

    YO foole Google begs to differ with your LIE son;

    Results 1 - 10 of about 3,340,000 for quagmire when I “did the google” for the word quagmire.........

    Oh son and Merrium Webster also says your full of Sheeite son;

    quagmire
    Pronunciation: 'kwag-"mI(-&)r, 'kwäg-
    Function: noun
    1 : soft miry land that shakes or yields under the foot
    2 : a difficult, precarious, or entrapping position : PREDICAMENT

    But when USED as a comment about war Vietnam and Iraq are quagmires widdle chicken shit chicken hawk scaredy pants boy.......


    Bilingual education involves the difficult achievement of learning nothing in two languages.

    Damn son another distorted definition?

    Bilingual really means you proficient in two languages which is something desired by the CIA, State Department, and US military since all three actually go over seas and do something your far too gutless to do son.

    It is often employed to teach illegal immigrants, who are undocumented Democratic voters. Feminism is the celebration of masculine women who have angrily overcome their femininity, femininity being another category of oppressed victimhood. If you are a man who loves femininity, you are a chauvinist.

    More reichwing bloviating based on stupid propaganda talking points which have NO basis in reality.

    Homosexuality is a genetically caused condition that renders one incapable of engaging in sexual relations with the opposite sex.

    Ya thunk?

    Actually son quite a few scientists think there is some merit to what you write here widdle boy......

    Its opposite, heterosexuality, is an arbitrary gender identification caused by cultural conditioning

    No son it would also be genetically determined stupid, damn are you trying to steal tiny the liars crown as the blog idiot?.

    Similarly, there is no such thing as the homosexual lifestyle, while queer studies departments engage in the study of the homosexual lifestyle.

    Another stupid hate filled statement by somebody who is factually challenged as well as a gutless chicken shit chicken hawk.......

    Moral relativism is the absolute belief that no beliefs are absolute.

    Yes son and it has been practice quite well by the Bushites in their attempts to undermine the middle class, destroy the environment for corporate profit, and destroy many lower class people access to the courts to try to counter the very large advantage the rich and corporations hold over them.

    Pornography is a type of expression that is protected by the first amendment,

    well son since quite a few large corporation make a hell of a lot of MONEY off it, places like the Hilton Hotels where they allow access to porn on their in room channels FOR MONEY, they even did this even though Mitt Romney was on their board of Directors, and almost every cable channel MAKES MILLIONS of dollars each year charging for the access to porn on cable channels they offer, screech at them son...........

    while religion, especially Christian religion, is a dangerous type of expression from which we are protected by the first amendment.

    No son the FIRST amendment actually says;

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Looks like they said CONGRESS can’t make any religion a state religion, something the reichweingers WANT for their special brand of Christianity, which actually is far from what Jesus actually preached son,

    BTW widdle boy you did READ this part didn’t ya son?

    prohibiting the free exercise thereof

    doesn’t that mean they can’t STOP you personally from exercising your religion as long as your NOT forcing other people to convert or practice as YOU and ONLY YOU see fit?

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  32. "If we made the same investment in helping people that we do in killing people, we could transform our nation."

    Thanks Tomcat.

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  33. Reuters:

    A huge truck bomb killed more than 100 people and wounded 250 in a crowded market in northern Iraq on Saturday, one of the deadliest attacks in the country this year, police said.

    Another banner day for Bush.

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  34. Thanks Larry for your visit and comment.

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  35. Damn the surge could save him could it?

    No-Confidence Vote Looms Over Iraq's PM

    The Iraq Project To Call For A July 15 No-Confidence Vote For Al-Maliki

    For four years, Iraqis have been waiting in lines at gas stations in Baghdad, waiting for their lives to get better. But, as CBS News chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan reports, the situation has gotten worse and their government is now in crisis.

    That has led senior Iraqi leaders to demand drastic change. CBS News has learned that on July 15, they plan to ask for a no-confidence vote in the Iraqi parliament as the first step to bringing down the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

    Even those closest to the Iraqi prime minister, from his own party, admit the political situation is desperate.

    "I feel there is no strategy, so the people become hopeless," said Faliy al Fayadh, an MP from the Dawa Party. "You can live without petrol, without electricity, but you can't live without hope."

    Iraq's prime minister is facing his most serious challenge yet. The no-confidence vote will be requested by the largest block of Sunni politicians, who are part of a broad political alliance called the Iraq Project. What they want is a new government run by ministers who are appointed for their expertise, not their party loyalty.

    The Iraq Project is known to the highest levels of the U.S. government. CBS News has learned it was discussed in detail on Vice President Dick Cheney's most recent visit to Baghdad, when he met with the Iraqi Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi.

    Al-Maliki has announced his own alliance to try save his government, but even his vice president says that's little more than a short-term fix.

    "Cosmetic change is not going to serve the interests of Iraqis is not going to stabilize, is not going to improve security , what we need is much bigger that that," said al Hashimi, the leader of the Iraqi Islamic Party.

    Leaders of the Iraq Project claim they have the necessary votes to force al-Maliki to resign, but that has yet to be tested in parliament. For now, the U.S. is still standing by the Iraqi leader – publicly at least.


    Damn dead eye wants to run BOTH goberments......

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  36. Sumo:

    Glad you stopped by and hope you make this a regular stop.

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  37. Clif:

    They better not get rid of Maliki too soon or Bush won't have anyone to blame for his "surge" not working.

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  38. Chuck and Karen, I left a message for you on your blog thanking you for tagging me with the prestigious honor of "Thinking Blogger Award."

    Congrats to all the new ones that Larry tagged.

    What about simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com? This blog really makes me think.

    LIVE EARTH is the most amazing concert I have seen in years. The Police, Pink Floyd and Madonna! Linkin Park and Dave Matthews!

    Right now The Fray is my favorite.

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  39. VOLTRON - Instead of a Fairness Doctrine, what about an "Honesty Doctrine?" We need to force you (Fox News and all right-wingnuts to start telling the truth in the news, instead of lies and evasions.

    Republican pundits and talk-radio hosts have committed crimes of treason by lying to their audiences.

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  40. Thank you Larry and Lydia for your kind words here and at our blog. Your net friendships are truly appreciated. We're fortunate to have found you guys. :)

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  41. doltron lied,

    BS wingnut talking points and other idiotic blather
    .

    Could you make yourself look any more stupid?

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  42. One could apply that to ALL media Lydia. How about we "force" ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, the New York Times, the Boston Globe and the LA Times to tell the truth too?

    And you should be careful throwing around the word "treason". If this was WW2 you guys would be in jail.

    Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally said much less than you and your followers do here.


    As far as "lies" goes, how do you know? Have you actually seen with your own eyes how the war is going? How about the "evidence" of global warming? Would you know how to interpret the data if you even saw it yourself? Have you actually witnessed the "crimes" of this administration?

    NO, you read left wing blogs and news sites and watch left wing television. You CHOOSE to believe the worst and call everyone else a liar because of your hatred for one man. And that's even based on the lies you CHOOSE to believe.

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  43. The Thinking Blogger Award is the only one I respond to every time.

    It means a lot to me that people are reading. It is always an honor to be tagged, and I enjoy sharing from my own repositories with everyone else.

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  44. "Could you make yourself look any more stupid?"

    Sure JR. I could be spouting the same crap you do.

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  45. Doltron dribbled,

    Sure JR. I could be spouting the same crap you do.


    No, you couldn't. You aren't evolved enough for that.

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  46. Please.

    Go back to "sharing you suppositories with every one else"...

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  47. Perhaps Doltron would like to explain to us how his moronic monkey Messiah comes to the conclusion that invading a non-hostile entity is perfectly fine, but going after Osama is ALWAYS just too damned risky.

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  48. Dolty, you're too stupid to figure out your ass is getting handed to you, or you get paid to lose your ass. And there are no in-betweens here; it IS one way or the other.

    Which is it? TIA for clearing this up.

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  49. JR, I won't even pretend to know what the hell goes through Bush's mind. He's only done a FEW good things, and he hasn't done those exceptionally well.

    I'll agree someone is getting their ass handed to them. The problem is that by the time you realize just who that is, (if you ever mature that much) I won't be around to witness your epiphany.

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  50. *yawn*

    If they pay you for this boy, they're getting screwed. Swatting flies takes more concentration than swatting your stupid talking points.

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  51. Haven't we heard this promise before:

    Democratic voters are not the only ones bitter over their party's failure to use new Congressional power to force a withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Senator Harry Reid, the occasionally obstreperous Democratic leader, is seething as well.

    "We haven't done enough," said Mr. Reid of Nevada, a onetime moderate who has evolved into one of the party's most fervent critics of the war.

    Don't run your mouth Reid, do what you were put in power to do.

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  52. Baghdad:

    A suicide truck bomber blasted a Shiite town north of Baghdad on Saturday, killing more than 100 people, police said, in a sign Sunni insurgents are pulling away from a U.S. offensive around the capital to attack where security is thinner.

    Bush is a murderer by proxy!

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  53. Two More Neocon Flipfloppers:

    On Friday, Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee told the paper, "It should be clear to the president that there needs to be a new strategy. Our policy in Iraq is drifting;" and "Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, who helped lead the charge earlier this year against Democratic efforts to oppose Bush's troop buildup, said: 'We don't seem to be making a lot of progress.'"

    Those amazing neocon flipfloppers.

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  54. Another example of Bush's war on the American worker:

    AP:

    Struggling auto parts maker Delphi Corp. expects to have as few as about 2,300 United Auto Workers union members at its four remaining UAW plants by 2012, the company said in a court filing.

    That would be less than a tenth of the 24,000 UAW members it employed when it filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in 2005.

    Since that filing, Delphi said its UAW membership has dropped to about 17,000 due to buyouts and early retirements, and by the end of this year, it expects to have 4,703 UAW employees as it closes and sells plants. Total UAW employment could drop to as low as 2,306 in 2012, it said this past week in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court filing in New York.

    George W Bush and Corporate America: Destroying the American worker.

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  55. Another banner day for Bush:

    BAGHDAD:

    A flurry of bombings in Baghdad killed 26 people Sunday, and officials said the death toll from a giant suicide truck blast that devastated the market of a Shiite town north of the capital a day earlier could be more than 130.

    Officials earlier had said Saturday's bombing in the town of Armili killed 115 people, one of the deadliest attacks in Iraq in months. The blast suggested Sunni insurgents are moving further north to strike in less protected regions beyond the U.S. security crackdown in Baghdad and on the capital's northern doorstep.

    Party day for the Bush family!

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  56. AP:

    The Great Wall of China, Rome's Colosseum, India's Taj Mahal and three architectural marvels from Latin America were among the new seven wonders of the world chosen in a global poll released on Saturday.

    Jordan's Petra was the seventh winner. Peru's Machu Picchu, Brazil's Statue of Christ Redeemer and Mexico's Chichen Itza pyramid also made the cut.

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  57. The Official George W. Bush
    "Days Left In Office"
    Countdown:

    561 DAYS
    15 Hrs 37 Min 58.8 Sec

    Can we make it that long?

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  58. Sunday Talk:

    * MTP: David Gregory is guest moderator; Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) talks Iraq & state of the GOP; roundtable of NYT's David Brooks, WaPo's Anne Kornblut, Vanity Fair's Todd Purdum, and WaPo's Eugene Robinson to discuss Libby, Billary.

    * FTN: Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) & Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) discuss Libby and WH subpoenas; roundtable of Des Moines Register's David Yepsen, CBSNews.com's Vaugh Ververs, and Politico's Jeanne Cummings.

    * This Week: Rep. John Conyers (D-MI); Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX); Mike Gravel (D-AK); NYT's Nicholas Kristof talks about Africa; roundtable of Fareed Zakaria, The Nation's Katrina vanden Heuvel, and National Review's Rich Lowry.

    * Fox News Sunday: Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) & Rep. Chris Cannon (R-UT) on Libby commutation; Rep. Pete Hoekstra on terrorism.

    * Late Edition: Iraqi Natl Security Adv. Mowaffak al-Rubaie; Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN); Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT); Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA); Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch (Cmdr in Iraq); roundtable of Ed Henry, Joe Johns, & Suzanne Malveaux.

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  59. When the Roman Empire was collapsing, the Emperor decided to avert the Mobs' attention by holding a year's worth of fantastic games and slaughters in the Coliseum.

    Meanwhile the Barbarians were on the border.

    Does this sound familiar?

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  60. An impressive statistic:

    Bush has spent 124 days visiting the presidential
    retreat in Maryland’s Catoctin Mountains.

    And counting today, he’s spent
    all or part of 386 days there.

    Even more than Ronald Reagan!

    Thanks Coffee Messiah.

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  61. Have you heard about the White House's attempt to block Sara Taylor's testimony? What a disgrace.

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  62. Some ignorant gutless chicken shit said;

    As far as "lies" goes, how do you know?

    Well numbnuts we don't drink the kool aid and suck up everything Rush and Hannity says as gospel widdle boy.

    Have you actually seen with your own eyes how the war is going?

    Yes widdle boy, on the MSM and many places on the tubes, but also from the screeching clowns like you have done for the last 2 years as Bush's illegal war has collapsed...

    How about the "evidence" of global warming?

    Try this one id-jet;

    Arctic ice melting faster as temperatures climb

    'Best answer is warming,' say researchers, who predict trend to continue

    The observations showed 2.06 million square miles of sea ice as late as Sept. 19. That’s the lowest measurement of Arctic sea ice cover ever recorded, the researchers said. It’s also 20 percent less than the average of end-of-summer ice pack cover measurements recorded since 1978.

    At the same time, average air temperatures across most of the Arctic region from January to August 2005 were as much as 5.4 degrees warmer than average temperature over the last 50 years, said the team of researchers from two universities and NASA.


    Look at the melting north pole ice cap son........

    Would you know how to interpret the data if you even saw it yourself?

    Quite a bit, because I do understand the underlieng science, and have the ability to think with out the reichwing talking points...

    BTW I am NOT trying to defend a discredited partisan position where the reichwing has lied for the last quarter century and tried to derail the US and it's constitution for their benefit and enrichment of the greedy rich bastards who have funded this attempt to steal america from the people and their descendants, just like some reichwingers tried when Franklin Roosevelt was president;

    In 1934 [Maj Gen Smedley Darlington] Butler came forward and reported to the U.S. Congress that a group of wealthy industrialists had been plotting to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a military coup. Even though the congressional investigating committee corroborated most of the specifics of his testimony, no further action was taken.

    BTW foole Smedley Butler was no dirty f&%king Hippie son;

    Butler was awarded the brevet medal (the highest Marine medal at its time), and subsequently the Medal of Honor twice during his career, one of only 19 people to be awarded the MOH medal twice.

    Obviously he failed the reichwing gutless chicken hawk test ...twice......and then defended the country from their treasonous aims, just like we are trying to stop the treason of Bush, Cheney and the neo-cons at this time.

    Have you actually witnessed the "crimes" of this administration?

    Allowing Osama to escape, and today we find out they allowed his second in command to escape at a later date.

    Lying about WMD's

    Illegally invading a country based on those lies.

    Illegally occupying that country, which has caused the deaths of up to 750,000 Iraqi civilians, and wounded untold numbers of them, and causing over 4 million refugees and destroying theior country and economy so it will take at least a full generation for the people of Iraq to recover.

    The illegal war and occupation has caused 3605 US soldier deaths based on his illegal war and the lies which are it's foundation.

    Also this illegal war and the lies which underlie it caused 26,558 wounded US soldiers almost half who have to carry their wounds so severe that they couldn't return to the battle for the rest of their lives.

    Also this illegal war and the lies which are it's foundation, caused the people of the US to be ROBBED of up to $500,000,000,000 from their pockets and the pockets of future generations to fund the illegal war of George W Bush.

    Illegally wiretapping the US citizens and lying about it.

    Violations the Geneva Convention or ordering that people under his command to violate the same.

    Ignoring the oath to DEFEND the US constitution, even to the point of signing a bill from congress to attempt to ignore a section about habeas corpus with out following the proper amendment procedure which is laid out in detail in the constitution.

    Failing in his duty to protect the environment for future generations.

    Failing to properly defend the country to wit seal the porous ports and borders at a time of war, especially since he admits the people who he says wants to harm us all would use those avenues of approach to infiltrate the country.

    All this son with the fooles and gutless chicken shit chicken hawks trying to hide their crimes with executive privilege and new not authorized styles of secret document stamps.....and having the gutless greedy re-pubie chicken shit congress rubber-stamping their crimes and failing to exercise proper over sight, which is mandated by the constitution...

    Why do you reichwinmgers HATE the US Constitution so much?

    You all spend so much time trying to destroy it or at least ignore what it demands of the people in the goberment.

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  63. Outing Valerie Plame aided our enemies

    By Bob Ewegen
    Denver Post Columnist

    After 44 years in journalism, I don't get angry very often about the dirty tricks that so often besmirch the American political process.

    But I am angry about the Valerie Plame affair, a sordid tale that flared anew this week when President George Bush commuted the prison sentence of Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

    I am not angry at the commutation or the pettifogging partisan exchanges it spawned. I am angry at the underlying event - the fact that an American patriot whose only crime was to serve her country in a dangerous and honorable profession had her mission undercut for partisan political purposes.

    I am even angrier that the vicious "outing" of Valerie Plame put her sources at risk - the men and women in foreign countries who had risked their own lives to help America in our war on terror.

    In the intelligence trade, such foreign sources are called "assets." I call them heroes. And they are the ones who were put most at risk after columnist Robert Novak revealed Plame's CIA connection as part of a clumsy Bush administration effort to discredit her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who had become a critic of the Iraq war.

    To explain why this case angers me so deeply, let me give you a number: RA68031300. It identifies me as a Vietnam-era veteran of the United States Army. After enlisting, I took basic training at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo., where I received orders sending me to Fort Sill, Okla., for training in artillery, after which I expected to be sent to Vietnam.

    Because someone in the Pentagon noticed I had worked for United Press International, I was called out on my last day of basic and redirected to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. I ultimately became editor of the post newspaper, the Pointer View.

    So in the end, my personal risk in my military career was limited to some really awful haircuts. But the names of 58,000 of my comrades engraved on a wall in Washington, D.C., prove that my story could have ended differently. Those names also explain why I will never forgive anyone who willfully puts the lives of America's military or intelligence personnel or our friends abroad in danger.

    And that's exactly what former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage did when he leaked Plame's identity to Novak - and what Novak did when he published the name of a covert CIA agent.

    Between Armitage's dishonorable act and Novak's dishonorable act were a string of other dishonorable acts, including an executive order by President Bush empowering Vice President Cheney to declassify classified information, which Cheney did, thus allowing Libby to shop Plame's identity around in hopes of finding a journalist willing to smear Wilson through his wife. With Libby's information confirming Armitage's original tip, Novak willingly blew Plame's cover.

    In so doing, he didn't put Plame at personal risk, because she was not overseas at the time. But he did irrevocably damage her mission - and put those human "assets" at risk.

    You see, al-Qaeda and its ilk rarely try to kill CIA agents - or anyone else who can fight back. What these cowards do is kill people who have worked with U.S. agents.

    You can imagine the conversation: "Hmm, that Valerie Plame who visited here turns out to be a CIA agent. Didn't she hang out at Hamid's coffee shop a lot?"

    Next day, Hamid's body turns up, along with the bodies of his wife and family, all of whom were tortured to death before his eyes.

    That's the way our enemies play the game. That's why we train brave men and women like Valerie Plame so America can fight back.

    The outing of Plame may have been technically legal, as the commutation of Libby's sentence undoubtedly was. But our supreme law, the U.S. Constitution, still defines treason as giving aid and comfort to our enemies in time of war.

    And in this aging veteran's eyes, that's exactly what Armitage, Cheney, Libby and Novak did.

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  64. Voltron,
    If you don't call the outing of Valerie Plame treason, if you don't call LYING to start a war -- TREASON... if you don't call usurping the U.S. Constitution and overturning Democratic rights of all citizens, plus overturning Habeas Corpus, plus secretly getting Bin Laden's family out of the U.S., plus secretly meeting with the Saudis to collude oil pricing, plus hiring contractors that stole 12 billion from our U.S. taxpayer-funded war chest... (money diverted to Haliburton ghost employees... plus SELLING OUR PORTS TO THE UAE... you don't call this treason?

    Then you are not a patriot.

    Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and John Gibson have deliberately lied to the American people in nearly every broadcast, defending Bush and Cheney's evil. Lying to the American people about Iraq having WMD, knowing full well Bush lied to us. And Ann Coulter is allowed to bully good Chrisitan Americans and get away with saying "Iraq was responsible for 911"

    Fox even labeled Obama as "Osama" several times, until they were caught and had to change the type.
    Fox News and Michael Savage, et al used fear-mongering to try to make Americans afraid of their fellow man, afraid of "liberals" (one of th most beautiful words in the English language) afraid of immigrants, afraid of everything in order to make a profit.

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  65. And invading a country like Iraq, when the whole world was hovering over Sadaam -- his hands were tied -- INVADING A NATION like Iraq is treasonous on Bush's part because we aided and abetted our enemies -- Al Qaeda -- by allowing them to triple and quadruple and grow.

    We did the very thing we were supposed to be trying to avoid: put our footprint on their holy land, which is why they hated us in the first place, and we created more enemies, more hatred in the world toward us, so we aided our enemies.

    This is treason. And your "fair and balanced" media aided and abetted these groups by inflaming hatred and divisiveness..

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  66. The Problem with “This Week”, is that they ALWAYS put the liberals or Democrats in a weak position.

    Every week the round table is made up of a very strong, very masculine right wing pundit, a very weak and soft spoken far left fringe liberal, (almost always a female) and an articulate well educated moderate or two, who likes to hear themselves talk, and who invariably mocks the far left liberal, and cowtows to the conservative.

    Farid Zakaria is an educated and articulate man, who likes to hear himself talk. George Will is an educated and articulate man, who LOVES to hear himself talk. Both tend to attack far left “wingnuts” and bow to strong, vocal right wing guests.

    I am seriosuly sick of seeing Katrina Vanderhooval and Donna Brazille representing the left, who are the two most frequent guests This Week has for their left wing round table pundits. Both are weak, softspoken far left spokespersons, and of course, both are women, which is fine, but the image presented to the country is republicans are the party of strong male figures, and the left is a bunch of soft spoken weak women. And when they do put a man on we get someone like Dick Durban or Al Sharpton. Whats wrong with putting strong, vocal person like David Shuster on or Scott Ritter? Lets put Paul Riekhoff up against the right wing tough guys they pick?

    And why does Stephanopolis always laugh at the left wing candidate and bow to the right wing? Why does he give the right wing the first word, and usually the last? I know why the right gets all the air time though. Its because the right wing guest invariably interrupts the left wing guest, who sits back and try’s to look like they’re the “nice one”, while they let the right wing guest stomp all over them.

    I for one am boycotting “This Week”. I used to watch it religiously, but its turned into a stump for the right wing as it casts the right always in a favorable light, and the left in a light of feminine, soft spoken weak willed, passive debating wimps.

    You’d never know Stephanopolis worked for Clinton.

    BOYCOTT THIS WEEK!!!!!!!

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  67. Its not just FAUX "fair and balanced" thats the culprit. Its the MSM, who makes sure every Sunday morning, that the right is cast as strong, tough, almost master race like, and the left as soft spoken women and minorites.

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  68. Lydia Cornell said...
    And invading a country like Iraq, when the whole world was hovering over Sadaam -- his hands were tied -- INVADING A NATION like Iraq is treasonous on Bush's part because we aided and abetted our enemies -- Al Qaeda -- by allowing them to triple and quadruple and grow.


    Exactly. The CIA and the Baker Commission BOTH agree with what you just said with regards to increasing Al Queada's presence in the world.

    Before 911, Al Queada was a singular hierarchal organization.

    Thanks to Bush's decision to further desecrate the middle east, and invade Iraq and Afghanistan, Al Queada has grown into, according to the CIA, a "franchise", which spreads to the four corners of the earth.

    How inbred stupid does a person have to be to not get this?

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  69. And by the way, I am NOT criticizing women or minorities Lydia. I am criticizing the fact that shows like This Week and Meet the Press, always choose them to represent the left, while the right wing is always some strong spoken bullying white guy.

    If we ever expect to be heard, we need to see guys like David Shuster and Scott Ritter on these shows, or we'll always seem like the weaker party.

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  70. Good point Bartlebee, but think about this: women are the more evolved gender. We don't start wars and the new enlightenment has women at the forefront.

    We are the peacemakers. And if you read biblical history correctly, a woman is key to everything...

    (just an esoteric sidenote.)

    Also, they use MAN COULTER as their tough guy somtimes. How neanderthal and eye-for-an-eye can you get?

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  71. Lydia, I have learned that there is no reasoning with children like Voltron. They have been force fed the Right Wing Kool-Aid Pablum for so long they develop an immunity to the truth. We can only hope that time and events will eventually make the toxins dissipate. Until then all we can do is hold our ground, embrace the truth and ignore the propaganda dribble and drool that comes from their mouths.

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  72. Lydia Cornell said...
    Good point Bartlebee, but think about this: women are the more evolved gender. We don't start wars and the new enlightenment has women at the forefront.

    We are the peacemakers. And if you read biblical history correctly, a woman is key to everything...

    (just an esoteric sidenote.)


    Well, all thats open for debate I imagine, (men might have something to say about all that) but its moot to my point.

    My point is if we want to actually try and WIN a few elections, and beat the right wing, then we need to put some spokesmen out there that can stand up to the right wing pundits they put out there.

    Why not have Keith Olberman on the round table on This Week? Why not David Shuster or Scott Ritter?

    Why is it ALWAYS Donna Brazille, or Katrina Vanderhooval? Arriana Huffington is a good outspoken left wing pundit, and she can usually hold her own, but we need more than that.

    If you want to know what I am talking about, then you need to watch this interview with David Shuster who was guest hosting Hardball this week. You can watch it here.

    CLICK THE VIDEO TO WATCH

    THIS is the kind of pundit we need out there representing the left.

    Why? Because we've ALREADY GOT the womens vote. We've ALREADY GOT the minority vote.

    We need the WHITE MALE vote, and we're not going to get it by putting Donna Brazille out in front to represent us on the 3 most popular Sunday morning talk shows.

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  73. Its fine that we are the party of inclusion, but inclusion doesn't just mean women and miniorites.

    We have plenty of strong, outspoken and well informed left wing white male pundits, but you'd never know it to watch the MSM news shows.

    If David Schuster Paul Hackett were permitted to sit on the left wing panel on these shows, we'd be winning elections left and right (pardon the pun).

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  74. And if this sounds racist to anyone, then they're not listening.

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  75. Bartlebee - all you say is true.

    Yes we need and have many strong men on the left. Paul Waldman is amazing!!

    So is Eric Altermann

    For that matter, KEITH OLBERMANN HIMSELF!!

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  76. If we can just get guys like you just mentioned on the MSM, to stand against the Ed Gillespie types, we'll win the whole thing.

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  77. Did you look at that interview I just linked?

    David Shuster, who is an Emmy award winning journalist who also was in the Pentagon on 911, just CLEANED THAT CLOWNS CLOCK!!!

    He didn't take sides, he just demanded that the guy be factual, and when he wasn't, he called him on it.

    There is not two sides to every issue. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

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  78. By the way, Idiotron -- oops, I mean Voltron. Since you bring up WW2 let's go ahead and explore this little tangent.

    See, if this were the WW2 era, we would not be in jail because we would be supporting the war effort. As I recall, we were attacked by Japan and four days later, Germany declared war on the united States. We responded by declaring war on both Japan and Germany. That was with Roosevelt in charge.

    If Bush had been in charge back in WW2 era, he would have responded to the Japan attack by declaring war on Iceland so he could control their hot springs.

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  79. "And invading a country like Iraq, when the whole world was hovering over Sadaam -- his hands were tied --"

    Not very tightly it would seem.

    He shot at our planes defending the no fly zone, corrupted the oil for food program with the help of France, Russia and the UN, Used the money to help pay families of terrorists, engaged in mass genocide of his own people, harbored terrorists and allowed them to recupperate in his hospitals, hindered in every way possible the UN weapons inspectors, and was actively TRYING to aquire WMD's, we know this because your beloved Clinton administration said so as well as Democrats in congress at the time, Unless you believe W was advising them too?


    "We did the very thing we were supposed to be trying to avoid: put our footprint on their holy land, which is why they hated us in the first place,..."

    Well if that's true, what "footprint" do the nordic countries have over there? What about Indonesia? What about France, their biggest supporter both domestically and in the UN? Why do they hate them so much?

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  80. Congrats, Lydia. Good choices.

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  81. "If you don't call the outing of Valerie Plame treason,..."

    Why hasn't Armitage been indicted?

    "...if you don't call LYING to start a war -- TREASON..."

    What "lie" was that? WMD's?

    The Clinton administration told the same one, the Dems in congress at the time told the same one, MANY other countries (including RUSSIA) told the same one...

    "...if you don't call usurping the U.S. Constitution and overturning Democratic rights of all citizens, plus overturning Habeas Corpus,..."

    Not true, only done to suspected terrorists...

    "...plus secretly getting Bin Laden's family out of the U.S.,...

    It wasn't a secret, and they were debriefed by the CIA before they left, AND most of his family AREN'T terrorists and might have been injured or killed by the backlash after 9/11...

    "...plus secretly meeting with the Saudis to collude oil pricing,..."

    Haven't heard about that one yet...

    "...plus hiring contractors that stole 12 billion from our U.S. taxpayer-funded war chest... (money diverted to Haliburton ghost employees..."

    Unproven allegations (so far)

    "...plus SELLING OUR PORTS TO THE UAE..."

    Didn't happen. After the uproar the Red Chinese got 'em. Happy?

    "you don't call this treason?"

    Not yet.

    "Then you are not a patriot."

    More opinion...

    "Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and John Gibson have deliberately lied to the American people in nearly every broadcast, defending Bush and Cheney's evil. Lying to the American people about Iraq having WMD, knowing full well Bush lied to us..."

    See above about the lies of the previous administration and Democrats...

    "...And Ann Coulter is allowed to bully good Chrisitan Americans and get away with saying "Iraq was responsible for 911"

    Even the 9/11 report says there are "INDIRECT" connections...

    "Fox even labeled Obama as "Osama" several times, until they were caught and had to change the type."

    Yes and so did Teddy *hic* Kennedy..."Osama Obama"...LOL

    Kinda like how CNN showed the picture of Cheney with a big black "X" through his face huh?

    "Fox News and Michael Savage, et al used fear-mongering to try to make Americans afraid of their fellow man, afraid of "liberals" (one of th most beautiful words in the English language) afraid of immigrants, afraid of everything in order to make a profit."

    There are some we SHOULD be afraid of, not the paralysing terror fear, but a cautious awareness of what they're up to. Particularly liberals...

    And we're not particularly "afraid" of immigrants, we just want them to come here LEGALLY, and in reasonable numbers. If you want to give them amnesty, what other crimes do you think should be forgiven?


    And as a side note to Clif,

    The constitution only applies to CITIZENS of the United States, not foreign nationals, AND we are NOT signatories to every article of the Geneva conventions.

    And the ones we DID sign, make execptions for those on the battlefield NOT wearing a uniform.

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  82. Voltron said...

    Why hasn't Armitage been indicted?


    Who cares twit?

    Maybe he's turning evidence behind the scenes. Maybe he's next.

    Doesn't mean they're going to ignore Cheney and Bush.

    Remember where the buck stops dickwad.

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  83. Voltron wouldn't know a good American if one sat on his face.

    Crawl back in your hole bottomfeeder. We've got all the wimps and worms this country needs.

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  84. "And if you read biblical history correctly, a woman is key to everything..."

    Including original sin, the fall of man and banishment from the garden...

    Nothing against women there, but as far as that goes about them not starting wars, I may be wrong but wasn't Margaret Thather PM of Britan during the Falklands war?

    Joan of Ark comes to mind as well, and I'm SURE there are many others...

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  85. Gee Bart, that's not very nice. I haven't called YOU any names...

    BTW, I thought my 15 minutes was up?
    Shall I expect you personally? Or was that merely rhetorical?

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  86. "Voltron wouldn't know a good American if one sat on his face."

    Much like Starkist, I'm looking for good tasting tuna, not tuna with good taste...

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  87. You are correct about one thing -- Margaret Thatcher was PM of Britain during the war. She didnt start it though, Argentina did by invading.

    Oh, and Habeus Corpus -- you said "not true except for suspected terrorists" ... emphasis on the word suspected. US citizens that are 'suspected' of being terrorists do not have Habeus Corpus rights ... and King George gets to decide who is a suspected terrorist.

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  88. MCH,

    And I'm sure that he's given information that is much superior to what WE see, or the press reports...

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  89. Voltron said...
    Gee Bart, that's not very nice. I haven't called YOU any names...


    Who gives a shit? Who honestly gives a shit what an inbred worm like you has to say?

    Really, who?

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  90. AND regarding "their HOLY LAND", why do we like to forget that they brutally conquered most of that from others?

    Their barbaric murderous pedophile phrophet has only plagued this planet since the seventh century...

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  91. And I'm sure that he's given information that is much superior to what WE see, or the press reports...



    Of course he does .. too bad he ignores most of it like he did prior to 9/11 when it related to an upcoming attack, and after 9/11 when it came to who was responsible for it, and prior to the war when it came to how long it would take and how many soldiers it would take, and before he said such moronic things like "Bring 'em on."

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  92. Easy there Bart ol buddy. Don't have a stroke or anything...LOL

    I really do love seeing liberal arrogance in action. Certainly since you're so much smarter than everyone else what you believe must be the unadulterated truth. Anyone who doesn't create an sympathetic echo between your ears is obviously lying.

    Rest easy, remember you're much more brilliant than anyone else!

    I know that liberals have such good intentions, I think I've heard about a road paved with those.

    Wish I could remember where it went...hmmmm

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  93. MCH,

    Surely you heard about Gorelick's wall? Wasn't she on the 9/11 panel?
    Too bad she wasn't in front of it eh?

    And Bush had a whole 8 months to prepare while making the transition and getting people into place...

    Didn't the previous administration have 8 WHOLE YEARS and TURNED DOWN attempts and offers to get ol Osama?

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  94. "Who gives a shit? Who honestly gives a shit what an inbred worm like you has to say?

    Really, who?"



    Wow, and if liberals get elected it won't be a fascist dictatorship! No sir! As long as us "inbred worms" toe the party line eh Bart?

    I'm laughing at your "superiority"...LOL

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  95. Voltron said...

    BLAH BLAH BLAH. BLAH BLAH.
    BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.
    BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.



    Get a job troll.

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  96. Man, you've got one crazy long winded one over here. Very kind of you to tag me with your meme. Does that mean I have to start thinking? Best,...Neil

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  97. Yep, when liberals get into office there will only be the elite ruling class like ol Bart, and the rest of us inbred hicks, worms, and assorted trailer park trash.

    Maybe you could put us all into "camps" or something? You know, for our own protection maybe?

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  98. When AMERICANS take power back, you pathetic twit, you'll be lucky to keep your ass out of jail.


    Or your head out of a noose.

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  99. Camps ay?

    Works for me.

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  100. No Bart, you were right the first time. Imprisonment or death is probably the best for those who have different opinions...

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  101. No. Just for peices of shit traitors who slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our names.

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  102. "When AMERICANS take power back, you pathetic twit, you'll be lucky to keep your ass out of jail.


    Or your head out of a noose."



    Yes, and WE'RE the Nazi's, right Bart?

    (you do know that was short for "National Socialist Party" right Barty? - kinda closer to "liberal" don'tcha think?)

    And you're certainly proving that right here...LOL

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  103. Voltron said...



    Yes, and WE'RE the Nazi's, right Bart?


    Hey, and here Larry was saying you were an ignorant SOB, and here you are, proving him wrong.

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  104. "No. Just for peices of shit traitors who slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our names."

    Well, you can't exactly call them "traitors" Bart, at least not to America, seeing as they're not from our country.

    And I don't know about you, but MY name isn't Mohammed, is yours?

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  105. If the jackboot fits....

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  106. Or "Allah" for that matter...

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  107. Voltron said...

    And I don't know about you, but MY name isn't Mohammed,


    Your name is mud.

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  108. Mohammed's your partners name.

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  109. Jackboot...LOL

    You're a riot Barty.

    Wasn't it YOU who was talking about imprisoning and killing people who disagree with you?

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  110. Ahhh, reading impaired too.

    One more time for the grade school dropout.

    "No. Just for peices of shit traitors who slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our names."

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  111. Well I gotta run and get some dinner going, I wish I could say this was enlightening but since I can pretty much read you guys like a book, it wasn't.

    I did have a laugh or two though, hope you enjoyed it too Bart.
    (although I hope you realize I wasn't laughing WITH you, more like AT you...)

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  112. Who gives a shit where you're going? Moms got dinner on the table? Great. Go choke on it.

    And don't bother coming back.

    No one wants you here.

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  113. Sheehan considers challenge to Pelosi By ANGELA K. BROWN, Associated Press Writer
    22 minutes ago



    CRAWFORD, Texas - Cindy Sheehan, the soldier's mother who galvanized the anti-war movement, said Sunday that she plans to run against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unless she introduces articles of impeachment against President Bush in the next two weeks.

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  114. See folks???

    See what I'm saying.

    ENOUGH MR NICE GUYS!!!

    ENOUGH PANDERING TO WIMPS LIKE PELOSI!!!

    To hell with PELOSI.

    GO CINDY SHEEHAN GO!!!!

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  115. Bartlebee;
    I hope you are correct and Cindy Sheehan runs against Nancy Pelosi; it will make for great drama.

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  116. Congrats Lydia. I always look forward to reading your insightful posts.

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  117. Mandy said...
    Bartlebee;
    I hope you are correct and Cindy Sheehan runs against Nancy Pelosi; it will make for great drama.



    Its not me who said it Mandy. Its Associated Press.

    Here, heres a link.
    Click here for todays announcement from Cindy Sheehan

    Now, lets talk about you and me....

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  118. Anyone ever notice that liberal and progressive women are sooooooooooo much hotter than conservative women?

    Jus sayin...

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  119. Seriously though Cindy said it no uncertain terms.

    If Nancy Pelosi doesn't introduce articles of impeachment in the NEXT TWO WEEKS, then she will be running against her for her 08 seat.

    Sheehan is also planning a march on Washington.

    Cindy's back! Only this time, she's going after do nothing democ-rats.

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  120. And get this Mandy, Lydia and gang.

    Cindy Sheehan is LEAVING the democratic party.

    Now I don't sound so radical all of a sudden, ay?

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  121. Bartlebee, I just got off the telephone with Cindy. I can verify what you read.

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  122. Sheehan, who has never held political office, recently said that she was leaving the Democratic Party because it "caved" in to the president. Last week, she announced her caravan to Washington, an undertaking she calls the "people's accountability movement."



    AP

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  123. Robert Rouse said...
    Bartlebee, I just got off the telephone with Cindy. I can verify what you read.


    Really? You know Cindy Sheehan?

    Pretty freakin cool.

    Well next time you talk to her, you tell her that she's the BEST in us all.

    We could use a million more Cindy Sheehans.

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  124. God bless that woman.

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  125. All we get is the Donna Brazilles, and the Terry Mculfies.

    We need someone with balls, and right now that just happens to be a woman named Cindy.

    Not enough people stood behind her last time. We need to ALL get behind her now. You guys thought she was fringe back then? Well now you know better. She KNEW!

    Bush that pig had her dragged from the capital for simply wearing a t-shirt that had the number of US troop deaths in Iraq on it.

    A mom, who lost her son to this pigs war, and now, they're dragging her from the US Captial in irons for excercising her 1st Ammendment privileges.

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  126. Classic digby;

    Dumb As Hell

    by digby

    Thompson, now preparing a bid for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, won fame in 1973 for asking a committee witness the bombshell question that revealed Nixon had installed hidden listening devices and taping equipment in the Oval Office.

    Those tapes show Thompson played a behind-the-scenes role that was very different from his public image three decades ago. He comes across as a partisan willing to cooperate with the Nixon White House's effort to discredit the committee's star witness.

    It was Thompson who tipped off the White House that the Senate committee knew about the tapes. They eventually cinched Nixon's downfall in the scandal resulting from the break-in at Democratic headquarters in the Watergate complex in Washington and the subsequent White House cover-up.

    Thompson, then 30, was appointed counsel by his political mentor, Tennessee Sen. Howard Baker, the top Republican on the Senate investigative committee. Thompson had been an assistant U.S. attorney in Nashville, Tenn., and had managed Baker's re-election campaign. Thompson later was a senator himself.

    Nixon was disappointed with the selection of Thompson, whom he called "dumb as hell." The president did not think Thompson was skilled enough to interrogate unfriendly witnesses and would be outsmarted by the committee's Democratic counsel.

    This assessment comes from audio tapes of White House conversations recently reviewed by The Associated Press at the National Archives in College Park, Md., and transcripts of those discussions that are published in "Abuse of Power: The New Watergate Tapes," by historian Stanley Kutler.

    "Oh s---, that kid," Nixon said when told by his chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman, of Thompson's appointment on Feb. 22, 1973.

    "Well, we're stuck with him," Haldeman said.

    In a meeting later that day in the Old Executive Office Building, Baker assured Nixon that Thompson was up to the task. "He's tough. He's six feet five inches, a big mean fella," the senator told Nixon.

    Publicly, Baker and Thompson presented themselves as dedicated to uncovering the truth. But Baker had secret meetings and conversations with Nixon and his top aides, while Thompson worked cooperatively with the White House and accepted coaching from Nixon's lawyer, J. Fred Buzhardt, the tapes and transcripts show.

    [...]

    Nixon expressed concern that Thompson was not "very smart."

    "Not extremely so," Buzhardt agreed.

    "But he's friendly," Nixon said.

    "But he's friendly," Buzhardt agreed. "We are hoping, though, to work with Thompson and prepare him, if Dean does appear next week, to do a very thorough cross-examination."

    Five days later, Buzhardt reported to Nixon that he had primed Thompson for the Dean cross-examination.

    "I found Thompson most cooperative, feeling more Republican every day," Buzhardt said. "Uh, perfectly prepared to assist in really doing a cross-examination."

    Later in the same conversation, Buzhardt said Thompson was "willing to go, you know, pretty much the distance now. And he said he realized his responsibility was going to have be as a Republican increasingly."




    Here's how Thompson described it in his book:

    Thompson, in his 1975 memoir, wrote that he believed "there would be nothing incriminating" about Nixon on the tapes, a theory he said "proved totally wrong."

    "In retrospect it is apparent that I was subconsciously looking for a way to justify my faith in the leader of my country and my party, a man who was undergoing a violent attack from the news media, which I thought had never given him fair treatment in the past," Thompson wrote. "I was looking for a reason to believe that Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States, was not a crook."



    He was just "feeling Republican."

    Tricky really should have burned those tapes. Clearly, Thompson would have gladly jumped in the fire to make sure there was nothing left of them.

    He must have known for years now that he's featured on them. Why he went out on a limb to defend Scooter, knowing that, is beyond comprehension. It would be an amazing irony if they ended up taking him down too.

    He is dumb as hell.




    Damn NOT another stupid chicken shit chicken hawk reichwinger, hasn't Reagan and Chimpy McFlightsuit done ENOUGH damage to this country for the reich wing?

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  127. Yea but remember Clif he "plays a tough guy on TV".

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  128. You know its funny.

    The right wing is always criticizing what they call the "hollywood elite", but they're the only ones so far who has elected one of them president.

    And now they're trying for a second.

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  129. Somebody do us all a FAVOR and make dolt's SPAM message dissappear....

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  130. Bartlebee said: Anyone ever notice that liberal and progressive women are sooooooooooo much hotter than conservative women?


    Well, yeah, but Lydia's on our side and that raises the curve wayyyyy high. They have Coulter, which seriously lowers their average. I suppose Coulter is good for the economy though. One look at her and I feel the serious need to buy and chug a bottle of Pepto Bismol.

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  131. LOL that's funny.

    Yeah, better not let the masses know the truth eh?

    Go ahead delete this one too.

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  132. dolt put crap like that on your anorexic pink pajama circle jerk back water Non blog

    You know the one you ask everyone where they are and worf decides it is a nice place to take a NAP......

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  133. The blog where you haven't had a comment since June 13th.......

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  134. I think I will. Lord knows you guys don't want the people here to know what a scam Al Sheehani and her group is...

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  135. What's the matta son, when the reichwing don't pay to post CRAP id-jets like gay-dalf, and tiny the liar don't show up?

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  136. Well gee Cliffy, didn't you call me a liar for saying that people weren't coming around?

    Now you owe me an apology...

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  137. Sunday, June 10, 2007

    Where is everybody?

    I know we're all out having fun for the summer, but a sonar ping or something would be nice just to let me know you're all still breathing...

    Posted by Voltron at 7:41 PM

    3 comments Links to this post

    All by Worfeus....BTW

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  138. Gee where'd your sidekick dyno-mutt go?

    Hope I didn't scare him off...LOL


    It's OK Barty! I'm just passing through....

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  139. You ARE a liar son;


    "Where is everybody?"


    3 Comments - Show Original Post Collapse comments

    WORFEUS THE SEER said...

    Ahh, the question of the ages.

    "Where is everybody?"

    Let this thread stand as a tribute to your group of not-so-merry men.

    This thread clearly demonstrates that without liberals to attack, you guys have got nothing to say.

    June 13, 2007 8:26 AM
    WORFEUS THE SEER said...

    What's that I hear?


    Oh yea.


    The sound of my own echo.

    June 13, 2007 8:26 AM
    WORFEUS THE SEER said...

    Well this is nice.

    A nice cozy place to get some sleep.


    Nighty nite.

    June 13, 2007 8:27 AM

    ********************************************

    See nobody wants to be in the pink pajama circle jerk romper room at all,

    It was such a QUITE place Worfeus decided to take a nap, how about waking him up if he's still SLEEPING there son.

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  140. Yeah "Quiet" even...

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  141. Whatever happened to ol Worfy anyways?

    I'm not sure, but I think I detect him still around....LOL

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  142. Oh well, I'll catch you guys later. Got things to do...

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  143. MCH said...

    They have Coulter


    I'm not sure she qualifies as female.

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  144. dolt said;

    Whatever happened to ol Worfy anyways?

    Check your opathetic excuse for a blog son,

    it has been so QUITE worfeus might still be sleeping there .....

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  145. How was the "nap" over at dolty boy's nice QUITE widdle place worf?

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  146. Voltron said...

    It's OK Barty! I'm just passing through....



    So are my bowels.

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  147. clif said...
    How was the "nap" over at dolty boy's nice QUITE widdle place worf?


    Nice and quiet, just like I like it.

    Like a crypt.

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  148. now shhh.

    I'm trying to sleep here.

    zZZzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ

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  149. Voltron said: Oh well, I'll catch you guys later. Got things to do...



    That's right, he needs to head over to Limbaugh's site and listen to the archives. How else will he learn how to think and what to say?

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  150. According to Larry Johnson;

    Neocons burrowing into the Thompson campaign. If you loved Bush Cheney your going to be thrilled with Fred Thompson. It is not simple happenstance that Liz Cheney, Mary Matalin, and Mark Carallo are playing key roles in the nascent campaign. U.S. Ambassador Michael Retzer also is leaving his post to work on the Thompson campaign. In fact (you'll love this), based on work I did in 1996 on the Dole campaign I got a call asking if I was interested in working on the Thompson campaign. I told my friend that Thompson's enabling of Scooter Libby disqualified him from any serious consideration for President as far as I am concerned.

    They know a lazy no good for nothing rube when they see one,

    after bush they thought they wouldn't get another LAZY useless reichwing front man who isn't willing to do the hard work but would outsource the pResidency to anybody who'll do the hard work,(from a secret undisclosed location.)

    but then Thompson decided he was just what they wanted.

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  151. Voltron said...
    One could apply that to ALL media Lydia. How about we "force" ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, the New York Times, the Boston Globe and the LA Times to tell the truth too?

    And you should be careful throwing around the word "treason". If this was WW2 you guys would be in jail.

    Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally said much less than you and your followers do here.


    As far as "lies" goes, how do you know? Have you actually seen with your own eyes how the war is going? How about the "evidence" of global warming? Would you know how to interpret the data if you even saw it yourself? Have you actually witnessed the "crimes" of this administration?

    NO, you read left wing blogs and news sites and watch left wing television. You CHOOSE to believe the worst and call everyone else a liar because of your hatred for one man. And that's even based on the lies you CHOOSE to believe.


    BS you Reich Wing sack of pus..........WW2 was a legitimate war first of all not an act of treason by a group of fringe wackos who hijacked our government and are attempting to dismantle the Constitution and the rule of law.

    Secondly dunce boy.............there were no war secrets revealed or any information to compromise or reveal information to the insurgents so thats another of your lies and BS talking points ypu pathetic troll the ONLY acts of treason were and are being committed by you Reich Wing fascists and war criminals so put that in your pipe and choke on little troll!

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  152. I'll leave you good people with this.

    Remember.

    Liberals and Progressives got to war only to live.

    NeoConservatives live to send other people to war.

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  153. Listen to him Mike.

    They're the one who outed a CIA agent to discredit her husbands report so they could sell an illegal war, and he accuses US of saying things helpful to the enemy, lol.

    What a pathetic peice of shit.

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  154. She was only a field head of the Anti-Nuclear proliferation section, so I'm sure it didn't help the enemy any.

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  155. Oh and one thing Reich Wing Dunces like YOU are trying to obscure and obfuscate by comparing Bush's pardon of Libby to Clinton;s pardon of his brother is the simple but obvious fact that:

    Bush's pardon of Libby was an attempt by a megalomaniac wannbe dictator to obstruct justice and cover up crimminal activities of a lackey in his OWN administration who tried to obstruct justice by covering up his masters role in outing a CIA agent and selling an illegal war based on lies.............if THAT isnt treason you dirt dum troll you tell me what is????????????

    All Clinton did was possibly exhibit some cronnyism making some questionable pardons that not only Libby was onvolved in but you clowns CLAIM is the presidents uninfrinable right.

    Pardoning someone in his own administration is a conflict of interest to be certain, but pardoning him specifically to obstruct justice and protect himself and Cheney is criminal.

    See what you Reich Wing Dunces dont want to talk about is the reason BUSH only commuted his sentence NOW instead of just pardoning him outright like he all but said he will do later is because Bush wants to help libby obstyruct justice further and throw a wrench in the Plame lawsuit by giving Libby and excuse to not have to testify in that case..........see if his criminal appeal is still ongoing he can Claim he cant testify because it would incriminate him in the criminal appeal.

    You and your Neo Con masters are so transparent I read you like a book Volt!

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  156. Bush commuted Libby's sentence for 2 simple reasons.

    A. He was afraid Libby would crack in prison, and talk.

    B. He knew if he pardoned him, he'd lose his 5th ammendment protection and Congress could force him to talk.

    The only way to be sure Libby won't talk is to commute the sentence. That way he still retains his 5th ammendment privileges in case Congress subpoena's him as a private citizen, and he doesn't risk cracking in jail.

    It was a slick move to be sure, but one thats likely going to cost him.

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  157. Only in Bush's dream of a reichwing Amerika could THIS happen;

    Woman jailed for 'neglected' lawn

    A 70-year-old US woman has been left bruised and bloody after an unexpected clash with police who came to arrest her because her lawn was dry and brown.

    Trouble flared when Utah pensioner Betty Perry, 70, refused to give her name to an officer trying to caution her for not watering her lawn.

    She says the officer hit her with handcuffs, cutting her nose, although police insist she slipped and fell.

    Ms Perry said she was "distraught" after the incident.


    He's just trying to cover his tracks, as far as I'm concerned
    Betty Perry

    She denied that she was resisting arrest, maintaining that she turned to go inside to call her son to fix the confusing dispute.

    "I tried to sit down and get away from him," she told Utah newspaper the Daily Herald.

    "I don't know what he's doing. I said: 'What are you doing?' And he hit me with those handcuffs in my face," she said.

    "He's just trying to cover his tracks, as far as I'm concerned."

    Set free

    The officer had judged that Ms Perry's "sadly neglected and dying landscape" breached an Orem city guideline and was attempting to issue a formal caution when the 70-year-old was injured.

    She was treated in a local hospital for the cut to her nose and for other bruises before being taken to jail.

    But she was let go when police realised there were "other ways" of finding out her identity without taking her to jail, a police spokesman said.

    The arresting officer has not been named but has been placed on administrative leave, he added.

    Ms Perry, who says she has never had a run-in with police in the past, has been offered help by local church leaders to clean up her garden.

    "I'm very distraught over all this," she said.

    "I can't believe this happened. Do you ever just wish you could start your day over and it would all be different?"


    Another happy happy day in Bushland.....

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  158. BARTLEBEE said...
    Listen to him Mike.

    They're the one who outed a CIA agent to discredit her husbands report so they could sell an illegal war, and he accuses US of saying things helpful to the enemy, lol.

    What a pathetic peice of shit."


    Exactly these SOB's are the ones guilty of treason and that NEEDS to be said in the MSM and on blogs.............the Reich Wing repeats their message (usually lies) over and over again in the MSM until it often becomes accepted as truth.

    The truth is the thugs are treasonous war criminals and we need to bash them in the snout with that fact jusat as they do till the American people wake up and see the truth!

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  159. Thats gotta be the sickest thing I heard since the right wing gestapo punks tasered a 76 year old man at the Airport.

    Freakin Utah. Orem even.

    Orem.

    The carbuncle on the anus of Provo.

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  160. You know, I was watching "Bowling for Columbine" today, and it just sickened me.

    Canada is so many freaking light years ahead of us, its sick.

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  161. Good to see the chairman of the "Department of Senior Citizen Harassment" was on the job and alerted Bush as quickly as he did.

    And you think the administration is broken huh?

    I do note the officer in question was suspended, His chief is probably a lib...

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  162. Hey Bart, I think you meant the wait in Canada is light years if you get sick...

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  163. Damn dolt I though you had something terribly pressing to do;

    Like clean you naval to get the lint to knit a tee shirt for your brokeback buddy the ever MIA gay-dalf.....

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  164. WORFEUS THE SEER said...
    I'll leave you good people with this.

    Remember.

    Liberals and Progressives got to war only to live.

    NeoConservatives live to send other people to war."


    Thats all well and true...........but I would also add that liberals would be willing to fight to protect their freedom and way of life for themselves and future generations from both foreign and domestic threats.

    Volt like most of his knuckledragging throwbacks is still living in the past......they have the cold war mentality were liberals are radical peaceniks afraid to stand up and fight for what they believe in and opposed to ALL wars and the soldiers that fight them and the Reich Wing are the only brave patriots willing to fight for their country.

    That could not be further from the truth first the Reich Wing is not Brave in the least it is laughable how small the percentage of Reich Wingers is in active combat......while the percentage of liberals is vastly larger........they send others to fight and die for causes they claim to strongly believe in.

    GWB swore an oath to defend the Constitution, democracy and freedom from ALL threats foreign and domestic ................True patriots fight only to save lives or protect their precious freedoms and way of life from ALL threats both foreign and domestic...........that is exactly how liberals feel........you think liberals are a bunch of peaceniks afraid to fight...........I think you would be surprised at how willing to fight many would be if a foreign power or radical faction tried to invade our country or illegally and treasonously hijack or destroy our freedoms and democracy.

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  165. Voltron said...
    Hey Bart, I think you meant the wait in Canada is light years if you get sick...''


    More Reich Wing BS and dishonest talking points...........many times people have to wait 6 months to see a doctor here in America (my mother was one).........the waits in Canada and France are not really much longer at all............and getting sick or injured NEVER runes someone financialy or the sick and injured dont die from refusing medical treatment for fear of being ruined financially.

    I got in a motorcycle accident last year went to the hospital one day for tests and had a few weeks of Physical therapy and it cost $30,000 if I didnt settle with the insurance company it would have ruined me financially........I had debt collectors calling me ...............and I have medical insurance but they refused to cover it.........think of the 43 million who DONT have ANY insurance.

    And you "Compasionate Conservatives"..............took away the option of filing bankruptcy to get out of crushing debt brought on by uncontrolled and unforseen bad luck..........but curiously you STILL allow corporations to file bankruptcy............more hippocrissy and double standards showing your disdain for the working class.

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  166. BARTLEBEE said...
    You know, I was watching "Bowling for Columbine" today, and it just sickened me.

    Canada is so many freaking light years ahead of us, its sick."

    Canada and Europe!

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  167. Bartlebee, she knows how we all feel, but I'll pass that on the next time we speak.

    As for Troll-Von, I've discovered over the past few years of blogging and political commentary on forums, that if you ignore these kind, they generally slink back to their own dark recesses or find a new cave to haunt. They crave the attention and feed off the passion they ignite in others. Sort of pitiful actually.

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  168. Voltron said...
    "Could you make yourself look any more stupid?""

    Sure, I could pretend to be you!!!!

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  169. Robert Rouse said...
    Lydia, I have learned that there is no reasoning with children like Voltron. They have been force fed the Right Wing Kool-Aid Pablum for so long they develop an immunity to the truth. We can only hope that time and events will eventually make the toxins dissipate. Until then all we can do is hold our ground, embrace the truth and ignore the propaganda dribble and drool that comes from their mouths."


    Robert, I think if its a troll just spamming the blog or attacking people personally then you are right they should be ignored and deleted............But if they are putting dishonest talking points and lies out there masquerading as facts then they NEED to be exposed, debunked and countered..........allowing them to repeat lies over and over unchallenged for the last 7 years that EVENTUALLY come to be accepted as fact is a colossaal blunder that likely resulted in Bush winning relection in 2004 and also resulted in almost half of our country still beliving Saddam had WMD and was in league with Al Qaeda and involved in 9/11.

    Lies and dishonest talking points should NOT be allowed to stand unchallenged as if they are fact and ANY time this pathetic troll tries that here i'll pound him into next week with truth and facts till he runs away like the rat he is.

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  170. doltron farted,

    Oh well, I'll catch you guys later. Got things to do...


    A little wound licking, perhaps?

    Why would someone just keep being WRONG? You have yet (to the best of my knowledge) to post one "fact" that someone didn't shoot to pieces in 3 replies or less.

    Did you get your ass kicked on a daily basis at home when you were little or something?

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  171. doltron fantasized,

    And you should be careful throwing around the word "treason". If this was WW2 you guys would be in jail.

    Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally said much less than you and your followers do here.


    Idiot. If this was WWII under your moronic monkey MEssiah, we'd have been rounded up anyway-BY THE FRIGGING GERMANS AND JAPANESE. I wonder how many troops we'd have left stranded in Brazil?

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  172. Voltron said...

    His chief is probably a lib...


    In Orem?

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  173. Duncetron said "What "lie" was that? WMD's?

    The Clinton administration told the same one, the Dems in congress at the time told the same one, MANY other countries (including RUSSIA) told the same one... "


    HEY STUPID, what you apparently are to dirt dumb to grasp is that CLINTON didnt invade Iraq illegally based on lies or dubious intelligence.........see apparently Clinton was wise enough and intelligent enough to discern the difference between bad intel that wasnt credible and even more important he didnt chery pick the intel to find things to justify an illegal an unneccessary war........Clinton didnt but what he wanted over what was best for his country.......he didnt put party and partisanship over his fiduciary duty to do what was best for his country.

    Clinton was a smart man.......did he make a few mistakes sure......most humans do, but he was a good man and a smart man who valuecd freedom and democract not like the piece of dirt fascist wannabe dictator we have occupying that office now!

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  174. Oh BTW Duncetron you seem to be justifying the invasion based on all the terrible stuff that went on when Saddam was in power...............One question bud...........if you guys are so wise and know better than everyone else let me ask you are things so much better NOW.........how good a job have you clowns who CLAIM to have all the answrs done in Iraq???????

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  175. I wouldnt consider it a rousing success for you guys and a testiment to your competence in ANY way shape or form.

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  176. Voltron said...

    I do note the officer in question was suspended,


    Observe carefully people. This is how the right uses subtle word shifts to create their facts.

    The officer in question was not suspended, he was put on Administrative leave, as the article clif posted just stated.

    Administrative leave is not suspension.

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  177. He's a joke JR..........shooting down his talking points is so easy its almost laughable.

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  178. Mike said...

    Thats all well and true...........but I would also add that liberals would be willing to fight to protect their freedom and way of life for themselves and future generations from both foreign and domestic threats.


    Thats great Mike, except the metaphor was meant to cover all that.

    And all that doesn't exactly fit into the two liner.

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  179. Notice how there is outrage and backlash about the Libby pardon and in comes Duncetron to distract, obfuscate and try to muddy the waters............if you guys dont think this clown is getting paid......think again.

    He claims he isnt getting paid........course he ALSO claims he DOESNT defend Bush or like him much after he spends entire entire days for months upon months defending him.

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  180. Robert Rouse said...


    As for Troll-Von, I've discovered over the past few years of blogging and political commentary on forums, that if you ignore these kind, they generally slink back to their own dark recesses or find a new cave to haunt.


    That presupposes we wish to ignore them, as we are not capable of countering their idiotic logic or something, which is the problem with the left wing in the MSM today. We don't need to ignore them and hope they'll go away. We tried that. It didn't work out too well. We don't invite them, but if they want to open their mouths then we'll be happy to close them, or at least confound all that they say. It doesn't matter if they go off la tee da thinking they've won. What matters is that to any thinking observer the truth comes out.

    We need to beat them at their own game, and we need to set the ground rules, instead of letting them do it for us.

    And besides, I don't see Cindy ignoring them.

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  181. Mike said...
    if you guys dont think this clown is getting paid......think again.


    Yea, I'd say the jury's pretty much in on that one.

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  182. Oh BTW Duncetron you seem to be justifying the invasion based on all the terrible stuff that went on when Saddam was in power....

    There are answers to this one that are dirt simple, and guaranteed to foul up a Chimpleton.

    Point out to a Chimpleton that the regime in Pyongyang is much worse. Or the regime in Zimbabwe. Our old buddies in Saudi Arabia (the financiers of the Wahhabi/Brotherhood virus that infected Atta and the September 11 hijackers) aren't known for humane treatment of people either. Enjoy the waffling, the spitting of meaningless talking points, and the accusations that you are the son of Lenin.

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  183. BARTLEBEE said...
    Robert Rouse said...


    As for Troll-Von, I've discovered over the past few years of blogging and political commentary on forums, that if you ignore these kind, they generally slink back to their own dark recesses or find a new cave to haunt.

    That presupposes we wish to ignore them, as we are not capable of countering their idiotic logic or something, which is the problem with the left wing in the MSM today. We don't need to ignore them and hope they'll go away. We tried that. It didn't work out too well. We don't invite them, but if they want to open their mouths then we'll be happy to close them, or at least confound all that they say. It doesn't matter if they go off la tee da thinking they've won. What matters is that to any thinking observer the truth comes out.

    We need to beat them at their own game, and we need to set the ground rules, instead of letting them do it for us.

    And besides, I don't see Cindy ignoring them."


    Amen!!!

    I couldnt have said that better or agree more with everything you just said!

    Pelosi was a huge disapointmebt, she's worthless, she's one of the very few things the Reich Wing has been right about..........I hope Sheehan takes her seat!

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  184. Jolly Roger said...
    Oh BTW Duncetron you seem to be justifying the invasion based on all the terrible stuff that went on when Saddam was in power....

    There are answers to this one that are dirt simple, and guaranteed to foul up a Chimpleton.

    Point out to a Chimpleton that the regime in Pyongyang is much worse. Or the regime in Zimbabwe. Our old buddies in Saudi Arabia (the financiers of the Wahhabi/Brotherhood virus that infected Atta and the September 11 hijackers) aren't known for humane treatment of people either. Enjoy the waffling, the spitting of meaningless talking points, and the accusations that you are the son of Lenin."


    Ive done that hundreds, perhaps thousands of times JR.......all the braindead goosestepper does is reguritate more dishonest stupid Reich Wing talking points...............like Bartlebe said i'm not trying to convince the unconvincible or chronically stupid...............i'm trying to shred his lies and dishonest talking points with truth anf facts so they wont EVER become accepted as truth like they have for much of the last 6 years.

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  185. Voltron said...
    No Bart, you were right the first time. Imprisonment or death is probably the best for those who have different opinions..."

    No just for those guilty of treason and war crimes!

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  186. MCH said...
    You are correct about one thing -- Margaret Thatcher was PM of Britain during the war. She didnt start it though, Argentina did by invading.

    Oh, and Habeus Corpus -- you said "not true except for suspected terrorists" ... emphasis on the word suspected. US citizens that are 'suspected' of being terrorists do not have Habeus Corpus rights ... and King George gets to decide who is a suspected terrorist."

    Excellent point............Habeous Corpus and the right to a fair trial with proper representatatation are cornerstones of justice that have all been compromised by Bush!

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  187. mike said,

    Ive done that hundreds, perhaps thousands of times JR.......all the braindead goosestepper does is reguritate more dishonest stupid Reich Wing talking points...............like Bartlebe said i'm not trying to convince the unconvincible or chronically stupid...............i'm trying to shred his lies and dishonest talking points with truth anf facts so they wont EVER become accepted as truth like they have for much of the last 6 years.


    Yes sir. That's why I don't ignore, and I don't play nice. There's nothing to be nice about. These yellow-backed, selfish louts have killed thousands of my fellow citizens and bankrupted my country. I have nothing but naked contempt for their stupidity and a lot of anger at what they've cheered on. They're worse than most foreign threats I can think of.

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  188. Voltron said...
    Gee Bart, that's not very nice. I haven't called YOU any names..."

    Not very nice?...........are you an idiot are you a moron?

    If you EXPECT your opposition to "be nice" while you and your masters treasonously destroy our constitution, our democracy, our freedoms, our rule of law and equal justice for all, lie our country into idiotic illegal wars of choice that greatly compromise and imperil our safety, national security, economic well being and international standing and reputation.

    If your cryin we arent "nice" on this thread you aint seen nothin yet you goosestepping Volksturm troll...........no true patriot would be "nice" while their country is being hijacked by a bunch of lying treasonous, elitest self serving traitors and war criminals.............you clowns have put out unchallenged lies and hijacked the word patriotism and twisted its meaning to your own ends for LONG ENOUGH............your time is OVER and your demise is soon to come, sooner than you think........your arrogance blinds most of you!

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  189. Well gentlemen..........apparently we are in agreement that the time for being "nice" is over...........its time to stand tall and take our country back from the fringe radicals...........its time to stand up and fight for what is right and insure that the Constitution and equal justice for all survives.

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  190. I wasn't asking anyone to start ignoring him. Heaven knows I didn't. I was just mentioning something I had done in the past on my blog. I suppose I didn't make myself clear.

    Voltron has spouted the same basic argument again and again. Each time someone has taken the time to refute him. The points were made. He is starting a round. However, unlike "Row Row Row Your Boat", this round escalates.

    We see it in the Middle East - an eye for an eye. Dr. Martin Luther King once said, "The reason I can't follow the old eye-for-an-eye philosophy is that it ends up leaving everyone blind. Somebody must have sense and somebody must have religion. I remember some years ago, my brother and I were driving from Atlanta to Chattanooga, Tennessee. And for some reason the drivers that night were very discourteous or they were forgetting to dim their lights - And finally A.D. looked over at me and he said, 'I'm tired of this now, and the next car that comes by here and refuses to dim the lights, I'm going to refuse to dim mine.' I said, 'Wait a minute, don't do that. Somebody has to have some sense on this highway.'"

    We sometimes reach that point of diminishing return.

    On the other hand. As much as I can offer my two cents, I would never suppose to tell anyone they have to follow my lead. I think that's the good part of being a liberal. We can disagree all the time but it still comes down to respecting the right of the other to say whatever they want, whenever they want.

    I'm a Democrat, I don't belong to an organized party.

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  191. Voltron has spouted the same basic argument again and again. Each time someone has taken the time to refute him. The points were made. He is starting a round. However, unlike "Row Row Row Your Boat", this round escalates.

    This is why I recommend that people do not entertain talking points. You cannot argue with a talking point, and any debate with the Chimpletons that spew them is impossible. I recommend belittling them, and giving their stupid Chimpleton talking points no light at all.

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  192. We are in Vegas and I'm hosting/judging the MRS. UNITED STATES PAEGANT.

    Will keep you posted. I have to interview 54 contestants tomorrow, on their family values, 'Green" energy, and I need a funny third question to ask them.

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  193. The death toll from a suicide truck bombing in a remote village in northern Iraq rose to about 150 on Sunday, making it one of the deadliest single bombings, if not the deadliest, since the 2003 invasion.

    What a great bloody day for Bush.

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  194. Another war lover, liar and wanna be has flip flopped:

    "I tried to avoid this war," Powell said at the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado. "I took him through the consequences of going into an Arab country and becoming the occupiers."

    Powell has become increasingly outspoken about the level of violence in Iraq, which he believes is in a state of civil war.

    Of course you did Powell. The most popular person in America, gets before the world stage and lies to the world about the need for war.

    Of course you did Powell the prevaracator.

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  195. Wow this war is going to well the Iraqi's are being told:

    BAGHDAD:

    The unrelenting carnage across Iraq continued Sunday, with at least 50 people killed in explosions, shootings and strangulations, a day after up to 150 people were killed in the suicide bombing of a northern Iraq marketplace.

    Prominent Shiite and Sunni politicians called on Iraqi civilians to take up arms to defend themselves after a weekend of violence that claimed more than 220 lives.

    Just like any out of control civil war. Defend yourselves, we can't do it.

    Heck of a job Bushy!

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  196. Does this make you feel safe:

    The Bush administration has failed to fill roughly a quarter of the top leadership posts at the Department of Homeland Security, creating a "gaping hole" in the nation's preparedness for a terrorist attack or other threat, according to a congressional report to be released today.

    As of May 1, Homeland Security had 138 vacancies among its top 575 positions, with the greatest voids reported in its policy, legal and intelligence sections, as well as in immigration agencies, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Coast Guard. The vacant slots include presidential, senior executive and other high-level appointments, according to the report by the majority staff of the House Homeland Security Committee.

    George W Bush: Protecting America's homeland with no help!

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  197. As of Sunday, July 8, 2007, at least 342 members of the U.S. military had died in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan as a result of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001, according to the Defense Department. The department last updated its figures June 30, 2007.

    I thought Bush said he won this war.

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  198. News From Iraq

    23 U.S. troops have died in Iraq since July 4th.

    U.S. military sources say al Sadr is back in Iran.

    Multiple suicide attacks killed over 220 this weekend.

    Thanks Questiongirl.

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  199. Miami Herald:

    Reservist fighting his fifth war call-up.

    Erik Botta believes he's done right by his country.
    Days after 9/11, as a young Army reservist, he volunteered to go to war. He was soon in Afghanistan.

    The next year, he was sent out again, this time to Iraq, part of a Special Operations team.

    In the next two years, he was sent to Iraq again. And again.

    He thought he was done. But now, the Army wants Sgt. Botta one more time.

    The 26-year-old Port St. Lucie man has been ordered to report to Fort Jackson, S.C., on July 15 for his fifth deployment. And that has compelled Botta, a first-generation American who counts himself a quiet patriot, to do something he never thought he'd do: sue the Army.

    ''I'm proud of my service,'' he said. ``I never wanted it to end like this.''

    Nearly seven years into his eight-year commitment to the reserves, the personal costs are higher for Botta. He could lose his home. His job at Sikorsky, working on the Black Hawk military helicopter, could be on the line. He's halfway to his electrical engineering degree, planning a career in defense work, but his professors say he'll suffer a significant setback if he is deployed. He doesn't mention the danger another deployment would bring, but his wife and parents do.

    In a lawsuit he expects to file this week in federal court in Florida, Botta says he will ask for an exemption or delay so that he can complete his engineering studies. He will also ask the court to prevent the Army from requiring him to report for duty until the legal questions are settled.

    His attorney, Mark Waple -- a West Point graduate and former military judge advocate who practices in Fayetteville, N.C. -- says Botta's case shows that the Army is inconsistent in its decisions when selecting reservists for involuntary mobilization, over and over.

    ''This is an arbitrary decision by the Army Human Resources Command with no rational basis,'' Waple said.

    THE CONSEQUENCES

    Deployment now would mean that he could no longer afford his house -- his wife would probably have to move in with her parents. Plans to start a family would be on hold. He would probably have to repeat some engineering courses after his return, and he might even lose the job he just landed about a month ago. Previously, he worked at Pratt & Whitney in the Joint Strike Fighter and Raptor engine programs.

    ''This is no peace protester,'' Waple said. ``I wouldn't have touched this case with a 10-foot pole if it was. He's put the boots on and been in combat.''

    Although Botta knew there was a risk that he would be called to duty again, he assumed that it was very slight, given his four combat deployments, pursuit of an engineering degree and employment with military contractors, he said.

    ''The world pretty much stopped when I got the notice,'' said Botta, weighing each word. ``I've sacrificed a lot for the military. I didn't want to end with litigation, but I feel I've done my service to my country. I've done what I signed up for in more ways than one.''

    The Army doesn't agree. It turned down one appeal, with another pending but unofficially denied.

    Another soldier with his life ruined: courtesy of Bush.

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  200. Great Dr King quote Robert.

    Also your point is well taken.

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