Friday, April 20, 2007

WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS NOW

SATURDAY MORNING TUNE IN LIVE FROM LAS VEGAS and LOS ANGELES to our show BASHAM AND CORNELL PROGRESSIVE TALK
from 9 - 10 a.m. We broadcast live -- or go to our website and click on the link to hear the entire show in the archives.

Our special guest Saturday morning, April 21, is the leader of a movement to restore the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state in the United States Military. He is the founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. He is also an attorney and businessman, who served on active duty in the US Air Force as a Judge Advocate General – or JAG – for 10 years. He spent 3 years as an attorney in the Reagan White House, and he is the former general counsel for H. Ross Perot. His name is Michael Weinsteen, his new book is titled “With God On Our Side: One Man's War Against an Evangelical Coup in America's Military.”Be sure to tune in to: BASHAM AND CORNELL PROGRESSIVE TALK

We need to keep separate Church and State. "Shouldn't each individual have the freedom to decide what God they are fighting for and praying to? It's that right to worship as we please that has been one of the abiding rasons we send our sons and daughters off to die. We need to preserve that right at all costs."

"It's simply wrong to paint every Christian with the same brush. For example, I'm firmly convinced that it's possible to have a strong, even fervent belief and still respect the constitutional rights of your fellow American citizens. From the first time I ever heard it, I was impressed by the Alcoholics Anonymous idea of drawing its members through attraction, not promotion... I think, for fundamentalists, at least in the workplace: lead by example, not by marketing and publicity and high-pressure sales tactics."

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No matter what we think of the gunman — or of enemies, serial killers and psychopaths in general — what this world needs more of is love. There is no difficulty that enough love and compassion will not heal. In the wake of the tragedy at Virginia Tech, I reminded my kids about the Golden Rule, how to treat other kids at school.

On Tuesday, I told my sons to go to school and pick out a lonely child, a kid who eats alone or seems depressed, or who is constantly bullied. I asked each of my sons to make an effort to befriend this child, at least smile at him, and even be so brave as to risk embarrassment and sit with that person at lunch.

It didn't work because my youngest son came home with an overweight kid. They both came into my office and my son proceeded to call him "Fattie" out loud, right in front of him! The kid chuckled nervously. I told my son, "That is not nice; your friend is very good looking; he's perfect and you are being rude." My child said, "It's just a joke. Everyone calls him that, he likes it, right Frankie?" The child laughed nervously again.

Later my older son came home and whispered to me, "What's that chubby kid doing here?" I was appalled.

I thought I had taught them the Golden Rule years ago, but I guess bad habits die hard. So we are now committed to applying it more conscientiously. We're on a mission to stop this peer pressure to insult other kids!

Because the Golden Rule, meaning "treat others with kindness, the way you would want to be treated," is the most important thing Christ taught. In fact, it is the only part of Christ's actual words and teachings that are necessary in a mixed society. "Love one another; love your neighbor as yourself; love your enemies, bless those who persecute you." That's all anyone ever needs to know about the Great Peacemaker's teachings in order to live together peacefully in a society of warring religions. Enough of the intolerant, divisive fundamentalist preachings.

So I asked my kids to pick out a lonely, alienated child and to pray for this child every night for two weeks. We'll see how it goes. If nothing else, I am asking them to be mindful of other's feelings.

I would rather my sons be kind to others than to get good grades or win a sports competition. Nothing is more important than how we treat our fellow man.

On that note, here is an excerpt from one of my favorite books "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl, the famed Austrian psychotherapist who transcended concentration camp torture through the power of his mind. I was introduced to this book in 7th grad and it changed my life:

Even in the degradation and abject misery of a concentration camp, Frankl was able to exercise the most important freedom of all - the freedom to determine one's own attitude and spiritual well-being. No sadistic Nazi SS guard was able to take that away from him or control the inner-life of Frankl's soul. One of the ways he found the strength to fight to stay alive and not lose hope was to think of his wife. Frankl clearly saw that it was those who had nothing to live for who died quickest in the concentration camp.

"He who has a why for life can put up with any how."
Frederick Nietzsche

Frankl wrote the following while being marched to forced labor in a Nazi concentration camp:
"We stumbled on in the darkness, over big stones and through large puddles, along the one road running through the camp. The accompanying guards kept shouting at us and driving us with the butts of their rifles. Anyone with very sore feet supported himself on his neighbor's arm. Hardly a word was spoken; the icy wind did not encourage talk. Hiding his hand behind his upturned collar, the man marching next to me whispered suddenly: "If our wives could see us now! I do hope they are better off in their camps and don't know what is happening to us."

That brought thoughts of my own wife to mind. And as we stumbled on for miles, slipping on icy spots, supporting each other time and again, dragging one another on and upward, nothing was said, but we both knew: each of us was thinking of his wife. Occasionally I looked at the sky, where the stars were fading and the pink light of the morning was beginning to spread behind a dark bank of clouds. But my mind clung to my wife's image, imagining it with an uncanny acuteness. I heard her answering me, saw her smile, her frank and encouraging look. Real or not, her look then was more luminous than the sun which was beginning to rise.

A thought transfixed me: for the first time in my life I saw the truth as it is set into song by so many poets, proclaimed as the final wisdom by so many thinkers. The truth--that love is the ultimate and the highest goal to which man can aspire. Then I grasped the meaning of the greatest secret that human poetry and human thought and belief have to impart: The salvation of man is through love and in love. I understood how a man who has nothing left in this world may still know bliss, be it only for a brief moment, in the contemplation of his beloved. In a position of utter desolation, when a man cannot express himself in positive action, when his only achievement may consist in enduring his sufferings in the right way--an honorable way--in such a position man can, through loving contemplation of the image he carries of his beloved, achieve fulfillment. For the first time in my life, I was able to understand the words, "The angels are lost in perpetual contemplation of an infinite glory."

All of this is spiritual. The Christ came to tell us the very same thing. How we have twisted this message to the self-serving message of "dying for our sins" is hard to understand. Consider this: What if, when Jesus said, “I am the way, the path, the light… the only way to the Father is by me…” HE MEANT LOVE IS THE WAY!! What if he didn’t mean for people to worship him – or make an idol of him. He said, “the things I do, you can do also.” The salvation of man is in LOVE for his fellow man... and in understanding that man is not material, he is spiritual. We place too much emphasis on matter.

I also don’t think Jesus meant to put so much emphasis on his Second Coming, and in this man-made "rapture" business which I explained last week. No matter what the book of Revelation says, I think the Second Coming has to happen in our hearts – each of us individually must have this rebirth of love for our fellow man. We each must become Christ-like: innocent as a child, giving, loving, turning the other cheek, not fighting our enemies, not controlling other people, not being selfish, not fearing rejection, not turning hatred to love, not retaliating, not making more weapons, not fearing anything (for love casts out fear and to have fear means we lack faith.) When each of us becomes as loving as the Christ — this is the "Second Coming." Christ will be reborn within the soul of mankind. It has to come from within. Maybe what the bible means is that we will see Christ (love) reflected in each other.

THIS JUST IN...

Ann Coulter, Advocate for Death, to Speak Tonight with Sam Brownback at Pro-Life Banquet
Queen of Elmination Rhetoric, Hate Speech, Joins 'Conservative' Presidential Candidate on the Dais...
by Daniel Borchers of Citizens for Principled Conservatism

Controversialist Ann Coulter, legendary for her hate speech and elimination rhetoric (see just a few of her most notorious greatest "hits" in the chart linked below), is a featured speaker at tonights New Jersey Right to Life (NJRTL) Banquet. That’s right, an advocate for death is a spokesman for life.

Presidential candidate Sam Brownback (R-KS) and Congressman Chris Smith (R-NJ), and others, will be sharing the dais with Coulter....

FULL STORY/CONTACT INFO:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4437

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404 comments:

  1. There is no difficulty that enough love and compassion will not heal.
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    Hi Lydia!

    Great article and those words are so true! ;)

    I was watching your two videos on your homepage and you're very funny! White out and a blow dryer for your teeth?

    LOLMAO

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  2. Thanks Suzie! It's pouring rain here. How's the weather where you live?
    xo

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  3. Hi Lydia:

    I live in Scottsdale and it's cloudy and breezy today. But, it's a nice change because it looks like it just might rain and we need rain..

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  4. Where are the guys?

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  6. Lydia:

    Looks like Michael Weinstein is your guest tomorrow. I don't know who he is..


    Another shooting today and this one at the Johnson Space Center! :(

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  7. TGIF!

    The guys are out and about.

    So sad about this new shooting near NASA.

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  8. Michael Weinstein has been all over CNN and all the talk shows. He has written a shocking expose on the way he and his sons in the Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs, were being indoctrinated (and the target of bigotry) by fundamentalist Christians inside the Air Force Academy.

    He is trying to prevent a taxpayer-funded theocracy. He's for separation of church and state — which is in the Constitution.

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  9. Wow, what an awesome post Lydia!

    I can't believe the poor boy that one of your sons brought home was called names by both of them. How sad. Granted your sons are still very young and unfortunately, kids are like this from time to time.

    However, I'd like to share a short story about a kid from the East Coast...he was rather "husky" when he was around the same age as your sons and their classmate. His fellow school mates made fun of him and called him names too. This boy's dad bought him some free weights and a bench and left them down in the basement for him one summer. He wasn't quite interested in it at first, but one day he was in the basement and happened to turn on the radio and heard a live recording of Frank Sinatra's "My Way." He picked up the dumbbells and began working out with them and when the crowd started cheering Frank at the end of his song -- this boy named Jake was inspired as if the crowd were cheering at him for working out! Jake used this as his personal motivation and inspirational song. He continued to work out and ended up losing a lot of weight over summer. The kids didn't make fun of him in the Fall when they returned to school. Jake was well on his way to an awesome transformation. He was leaner and stronger.

    This boy Jake became the man most of us know as Jake Steinfeld!!! That boy is Body by Jake - Whom I've had the pleasure of meeting when I worked on one of his infomercials with him. He is awesome.

    So, the boy at your son's school does have something to look forward to. He doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to - but if he so chooses he could make quite the transformation.

    Not that anyone should think any less of him one way or the other. I just thought no one knows what this young man is capable of and it reminded me of Jake's story.

    I also like what you wrote about Viktor Frankl. That is so true too. If we can hold love in our hearts and our minds we can get through alot, and you're right we need to remember the golden rule of treating others as we would want them to treat us. The challenge I find is when you do your best to treat others well and the do not do the same. They in turn treat others like dirt. So in these cases I'll just have to remember to do as Jesus taught and NOT as these people do unto others including me. :o)


    RP

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  10. Oh, I had no idea about the incident by NASA. When will people learn?

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  11. Thanks RP, what a great story about Jake. I knew him (know him) but haven't seen him in awhile. Went to a fundraiser and received his book. It's an amazing motivational book.
    xo

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  12. It was excellent as an audio book too! :D Extremely inspirational.

    I hope you all have a great night - I'm off to catch what I can of Newport's Film Festival.

    Blessings,

    RP

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  13. Lydia Cornell said...

    He has written a shocking expose on the way he and his sons in the Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs, were being indoctrinated (and the target of bigotry) by fundamentalist Christians inside the Air Force Academy.
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    Lydia:

    Okay, I remember hearing about that a while back. I didn't remember his name though.

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  14. Lydia:

    Regarding your article posted today... yes, kids can be so mean to one another. Even though, most of us parents teach our kids to treat others as we want to be treated. However, there are some families that don't teach that and that's where the problem lies.

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  15. After watching the media circus following the VA shootings, I said a few things.

    I WORFEUS said...


    I think they motivate more killing. After all, people see these killers faces and names up in lights as it were, and they think, "hey, people are afraid of that guy, and he's got his picture everywhere, I'll do it too, and become famous".



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    After 3 days of 24x7 coverage of the last killer, I am sure some other nut is watching and saying, "hey, I'd like some coverage too".


    I WORFEUS said...

    I know the news media needs to stop reporting every little detail and focusing on this 24x7 or we will have copycats popping up all over the place.


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  16. Then today we see this;


    Man kills self, hostage at NASA building


    MONICA RHOR
    Associated Press Writer
    53 minutes ago
    HOUSTON

    A NASA contract worker took a handgun inside an office building Friday at the Johnson Space Center and fatally shot a hostage before killing himself, police said.


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  17. Like I said about this same time last year, I am getting tired of being right

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  18. When the media figures out that 24x7 coverage of a shooting, where we are led through an endless cornicopia of mindless triva on the killer and his life, is motivating OTHERS to go out and kill, then we'll figure it out.

    And I am not letting you off on this either Lydia. I think putting that UGLY little pricks picture on the front of the website is just glorifiying and celebratizing this peice of scum.

    Think about it.

    He kills 32 people and we put his picture on every newspaper, website and tv show in America!

    Doesn't it seem like we should not be helping to promote these peices of shit?

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  19. My request to you Lydia is to remove that picture from the website, and not glorify this killer.

    He is in hell where he belongs.

    Lets leave him there.

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  20. I am always the downer lately huh?

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  21. Happy Friday Worf! :)

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  22. Nothing happy about it.


    The wheels are starting to come off.

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  23. Well, I take that back.

    There is always the Alberto Gonzales Comedy Hour on syndication now.

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  24. This week twice I have lost respect for Keith Olberman, something that troubles me greatly.

    1st in spending so many news shows to the VA killer, then today in playing Alec Baldwins PRIVATE voice mail to his kid, live on the air.

    This shows to me a chink in Keiths moral fiber, something I never thought I'd see.

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  25. I am going to set my position on juding the Baldwin recording now, and say this.

    I have no judgement on it.

    It was a private message that I had no right to hear.

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  26. I agree with you Worf. I'm taking the picture down now.

    I also agree that Baldwin shouldn't have this private phone message played over the public airwaves

    What has happened to our country?

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  27. I think Olbermann is pressured by his producers but honestly he should show more character than that.

    That message was a private message between a father and his daugther.

    When I was growing up that would have been considered light. Parents say all kinds of things to THEIR kids, and thats THEIR right.

    This country has turned into the thought and family police, invading the sanctity of the home to control the way we raise our kids.

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  28. Lydia Cornell said...
    I agree with you Worf. I'm taking the picture down now.


    Good for you Lydia.

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  29. I agree with both of you regarding Alec. It's a personal family matter.. celebrity or not.

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  30. If we stop giving them the fame the crave, then maybe it will happen less.

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  31. Worf your posts have been so "ON" the last few days its almost like your reading my mind and speaking for me..........lydia has done that several times as well when her posts were just EXACTLY how i felt and was thinking................and I certainly dont think your being negative or a downer...............your speaking the truth..........A MUCH NEEDED TRUTH IN FACT.

    But if I were you...........I'd get out of my head, it can be a scary place LOL!!!!!!!

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  32. Lydia, that was an amazing powerful and touching post..............for the record I think your kids are good kids and sincerely did not mean any malice or think they were being mean..........kids will be kids and although most know right from wrong and care about others as i'm sure yours do, many arent that accutely aware of what is hurtful or offensive to others and many simply follow others example and assume that because others do something it is not wrong.........its one thing on a small scale and/or when cildren do it.......its quite another when trolls use that line of thinking to justify molesting children or torturing people or destroying the constituion or our legal system and the checks and balances that prevent dictatorship.

    Your example reminded me of an incident I might have related from highschool.

    I was in the cafeteria eating lunch when this big fat redneck slob of a bully was messing with probably the scrawniest geekiest kid in the school he outweighed this poor kid by 100-150 pounds.

    He threw the poor kids lunch on the ground and the poor kid just sat there looking like he was going to cry, I looked over at the lunch monitor expecting her to intervene but she just sat there watching but that wasnt enough this dispicable brute wasnt just looking to intimidate or humiliate the poor geek, he wanted to goad him into doing something so he could beat the geek up.

    When throwing the kids lunch on the ground and calling him names didnt work he grabbed a bowl of hot soup and dumped it over the poor kids head, but although the kid started crying that still didnt get the reaction he hoped for so the little brute then put the empty soup bowl on the kids head and started laughing at him..........finally the poor kid shoved the bully.

    The bully smiled like he finally got what he wanted he threw the scrawny awkward kid to the ground and proclaimed to the world he was going to break him in half and beat him up real bad.....the kid had such a look of fear in his eye like he didnr know what to do, so he just sat back down in his chair looking like he wanted the earth to swallow him up,,,,,,,,,,,the bully then punched him in the back real hard twice and demand he get up to fight.

    At this point I had, had enough i came up threw the bullies lunch on the floor and said "Why dont you try messing with me instead of people half your size who cant defend themselves".....................he then said I should stay out of his business or i'd get hurt"

    I said "i'm making it my business and its not me thats gonna get hurt" and I reminded him of the last time we played football when he was the one who was bleeding and hurting.

    He then shoved me and I shoved him back HARD and he fell over a chair that was behind him.....he then got up and charged me trying tackle me or take me down, and I hit him in the head a few times, and took him down and got on top and hit him a few more times then got to my feet and he got up and said he'd "LET" me off the hook becasuse he has no beef with me,,,,,,,,,,I said whatever then the lunch monitor said I WAS IN TROUBLE FOR STARTING FIGHTS.......I said thats fine with me because I was doing what was right and doing what she SHOULD have done.

    The moral of this story is that blindly following authority isnt always the right thing to do.......unlike what the trolls say "might does not make right", and people in authority are not always in the right.

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  33. Sorry for highjacking your thread Lydia but what you posted just brought that vivid memory rushing back and I wanted to share it.

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  34. Hey SQ, I was busy at meetings all day today!

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  35. Worf, seriously i'm glad that you brought up how EVERYTIME Bush and his cronnies are on the ropes some distraction pops up............I sickens me also.

    And i'm also glad you asked Lydia to take that pic down and glad she did it.

    I'm SOOOOO sick of hearing about this sick twisted idiot.........I have no desire to hear anything more about the punk and think its DISGRACEFUL AND PATHETIC how the media is glorifying and covering this stupid tragedy 24/7............its encouraging some other unbalanced idiot that craves attention to do something similar...........The media is a pathetic joke they sicken me!

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  36. See, I've ALWAYS despised bullies who pick on and target those who are weaker or unable to defend themselves............and likewise i've always despised authoritarians and authoritarian followers who either enjoy vindictiveness and seeing those weaker suffer or who look on indifferently...........THERE IS NO LOWER OR MORE DISPICABLE FORM OF LIFE THAN THIS!!!!

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  37. Mike said...

    But if I were you...........I'd get out of my head, it can be a scary place LOL!!!!!!!

    Yes, I suddenly have the urge to go pull some wheelies.

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  38. LOL, i WAS popping a few wheelies on my street last night, and all the kids came over and were talking to me and thought it was the coolest thing in the world.........and all the moms were glaring at me like I was corupting the youth or something LOL!!!!!!!!

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  39. Catholic Church buries limbo after centuries

    By Philip Pullella
    Fri Apr 20, 2:21 PM ET
    VATICAN CITY (Reuters)

    The Roman Catholic Church has effectively buried the concept of limbo, the place where centuries of tradition and teaching held that babies who die without baptism went.

    In a long-awaited document, the Church's International Theological Commission said limbo reflected an "unduly restrictive view of salvation


    :|

    Talk about making it up as you go.

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  40. Tonight I humbly offer up a double-dose of stupid for your consideration.

    I've never seen so much purified stupid in this country. And I hope I never do again.

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  41. Dumb and Dumber is what these people are Jolly............and the people that support this pack of Fools are probably even dumber still.

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  42. Oh, and BTW, i spoke hasily and rashly last night.........after reading some of the articles on the Internet I stated the Democrats were weak and too soft on Gonzalez and should have asked for his resignation...........after watching some video's of the testimony I was wrong on both counts, Chuck Schumer absolutely tore Gonzalez up AND DID ask him to resign.

    after that pathetic completely uncredible testimony I CANT see how this fool cant resign.........its only a matter of time because if he doesnt resign he will be ANOTHER boat anchor around the neck of GWB and the repug party that will drag them down for 2008!

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  43. Federally Funded Boffins Want To Scrap The Internet

    Seeking further funding from Congress for "clean slate" projects

    Researchers funded by the federal government want to shut down the internet and start over, citing the fact that at the moment there are loopholes in the system whereby users cannot be tracked and traced all the time.

    Time magazine has reported that several foundations and universities including Rutgers, Stanford, Princeton, Carnegie Mellon and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology are pursuing individual projects, along with the Defense Department, in order to wipe out the current internet and replace it with a new network which will satisfy big business and government:

    One challenge in any reconstruction, though, will be balancing the interests of various constituencies. The first time around, researchers were able to toil away in their labs quietly. Industry is playing a bigger role this time, and law enforcement is bound to make its needs for wiretapping known.
    There's no evidence they are meddling yet, but once any research looks promising, "a number of people (will) want to be in the drawing room," said Jonathan Zittrain, a law professor affiliated with Oxford and Harvard universities. "They'll be wearing coats and ties and spilling out of the venue."


    The projects echo moves we have previously reported on to clamp down on internet neutrality and even to designate a new form of the internet known as Internet 2.

    More Here

    I don't care whether it would be George Bush and Dick Cheney or Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi in charge, I don't want anyone to have complete control over the "net" and have the power to control what happens here.

    As they say in the article;

    We are being led to believe that a vast army of maniac pedophiles or terrorists are on the loose and we must do away with all forms of privacy in order to stop them. This is akin to saying that blanket cctv prevents crime. As if to say "if we film everyone all the time, even innocent people, then no one will ever commit any crimes."

    Increasingly we are seeing this in every aspect of our lives. Recording, tracking and retaining our data in the name of keeping us all safe. Everyone is now treated as guilty until proven innocent.
    Make no mistake, the internet, one of the greatest outposts of free speech ever created is under constant attack by powerful people who cannot operate within a society where information flows freely and unhindered. Both American and European moves mimic stories we hear every week out of State Controlled Communist China, where the internet is strictly regulated and virtually exists as its own entity away from the rest of the web.

    The Internet is freedom's best friend and the bane of control freaks. Its eradication is one of the short term goals of those that seek to centralize power and subjugate their populations under a surveillance panopticon prison, whether that be in Communist China, Neoconservative America or the Neofascist EU.

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  44. Lydia,

    Don't fret about your kids.

    Parental teaching is a minor consideration at this point in their lives and is not going to overpower the need to fit in.

    Give them time. You're a good heart and a fine mother. You'll see it one day.

    I know it took me until my daughter was in high school to realize how much of my teachings she picked up on. She still infuriates me (not in an Alec Baldwin way, mind you), but she's a good person with a good heart, and despite the fact that she's an avowed Wiccan, she's a lot more Christian than many of the numbnuts right wing Christians I've seen in the blogosphere.

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  45. Hey Spanky?

    Kin Larry come out and play here? :-)

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  46. I WORFEUS said...
    Right now, in New York City, anyone can be stopped at anytime, for any reason, or for no reason at all, and searched. They have to empty their bags, backpacks, brief cases, purses and pocket books, etc, to machine gun weilding police who look more like storm troopers.


    I need to make a minor correction here, iWorf. You have two separate policies intermingled, and I am not aware of any instance where they've been combined.

    1) Police have the right, it's true, to stop you on the street and frisk you. That's been true since the first Giuliani administration. It was also, quietly, limited to minority neighborhoods. They do not have the right to seize your bags and seach them, however, without probable cause.

    2) However, on a random basis (and I've been subjected to this), at select subway stations, the police can *randomly* ask you to allow them to search your bags (some stations like Grand Central have armed National Guard troops with machine guns assisting the cops, but not directly involved in the searches). You may refuse inspection, but in turn, they can refuse to allow you to enter the subway.

    No biggie. You just walk a couple of blocks to the next station, and voila, no cops and no bag search.

    Pretty silly, if you ask me.

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  47. clif said...
    The Internet is freedom's best friend and the bane of control freaks.


    And if assholes like the trolls would stop abusing our freedoms, there'd be less outcry for control.

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  48. Don't forget to tune in to our show in ten minutes.
    www.bashamandcornell.com

    If you're in Vegas you can hear it live.

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  49. I have to fly to Vegas to tune it on the radio???

    HHm...that's a bit of a challenge...

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  50. Clif your absolutely right, I despise the "Big Brother" type police state these freedom hating fascist continue to try to foist on us.

    I dont need a pack of incompetent fools to keep me safe.........in fact I fear them and their Orwellian style fascist police state they are pushing us towards FAR MORE than what they claim to be protecting us from.

    There will always be deranged freaks and religious zealots and fundamentalists..............that doesnt mean we need to sacrifice and destroy everything that is good about our country and our demoracy because some incompetent idiot that has been dead WRONG about EVERYTHING "claims" it MIGHT keep us safe.

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  51. I see this police state mentality pervading our culture more and more, at least once a month there is an illegal police stop on the main road that leads to the little residential side street where I Live.

    This sickens me 50 storm troopers should not be able to just randomly impede the flow of traffic and check ID's and registration and delay me from getting home for no legitimate reason and without probable cause but it regularly occurs and the sheep just accept it>

    Now I have absolutely NOTHING to hide, my car is insured, registered and inspected..........but i'll pull a U-Turn and race away and sneak into my development the back way to avoid this Owellian BS because its not justified and shouldnt be happenening and I resist unjustice whenever and as much as possible.

    People who dont stand up for their rights and oppose tyranny and overstepping and infringement of privacy, freedom and liberty by our police and/or government soon lose or concede those freedoms and liberties by default if the do not exhibit their outrage and disdain for these infringements.

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  52. BTW, RP, that was a cool story.

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  53. Carl said...
    Lydia,

    Don't fret about your kids.

    Parental teaching is a minor consideration at this point in their lives and is not going to overpower the need to fit in.

    Give them time. You're a good heart and a fine mother. You'll see it one day.

    I know it took me until my daughter was in high school to realize how much of my teachings she picked up on. She still infuriates me (not in an Alec Baldwin way, mind you), but she's a good person with a good heart, and despite the fact that she's an avowed Wiccan, she's a lot more Christian than many of the numbnuts right wing Christians I've seen in the blogosphere."

    good points Carl, your absolutely right about the peer pressure thing.......I think its that and the fact many kids just dont realize they might be being mean, hurtful or offensive.

    The fact that the kid laughed awkwardly tells me he probably didnt like to be referred to in that manner but was used to it and tried to accept it good naturedly.

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  54. Also Carl, i'm "ASSUMING" that your point about the subway was it is pretty pointless and riddiculous to have random searches at certain subway stops when all a real terrorist has to do is turn around and walk a few blocks to the next one without guards or searches and get right on.

    It kind of looks like a big massive waste of resources.............I mean do they expect a terrorist to just walk up to the police put his luggage with massice explosices on their search table and state they intend to blow up the subway.

    These idiots constantly come up with knee jerk simple solutions to complex problems that dont even solve the problems but just make them look proactive.

    I dont want my leaders to be descivive and proactive if they are constantly wrong or just waste resources rather than actually solving the problem.

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  55. SQ, did you listen to Lydia's radio show yet........if so how was it today?

    How bout you Larry?

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  56. HI Lydia and Guys!

    I only caught a few minutes of Lydia's show this morning but I am looking for it in the archives now! ;)

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  57. Carl said...

    Hey Spanky?

    Kin Larry come out and play here? :-)
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    Hi Naughty Carl!

    I don't know.. can he?

    LOLMAO

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  58. Mike said...

    SQ, did you listen to Lydia's radio show yet........if so how was it today?

    How bout you Larry?
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    Hi Mike!

    I'm looking in the archives.. did you listen to it? ;)

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  59. Hi Worf, Clif and Jolly Roger! ;)

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  60. Carl, Suzie, Worf, Mike, Jolly Roger, EVERYONE -- today's radio show will blow you away.

    Our guest has some absolutely shocking information.

    Carl, you will totally relate to the "dominionists, dispensationalists"

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  61. Oh yeah I quoted Carl and Worf.

    This is about the military and what is really happening

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  62. Hustle's Casualties
    By Tula Connell
    TomPaine.com

    Think you know how bad the nation's health care system is? Think again.
    This week, the 1.5 million-member, AFL-CIO community affiliate Working America launched "In the Heart of the Health Care Hustle," an interactive online project to gather stories from America's workers, and channel their outrage into action. Before the site even went public March 21, more than 200 people had posted their stories. Hundreds more have come in since then. Some describe their struggles to unravel the insurance industry's bureaucratic red tape and still get the health care they seek. Some tell how they are forced to stay in jobs they can't stand so they won't lose their health care. And many, like this woman from Washington State, wonder what's to become of us in this nation.
    I just recently turned 62. I have never been sickly until lately.... I have no health insurance at all and I don't have a clue as to how I am going to get all these [hospital] bills paid. I have checked in on health insurance but it is so terribly high we can't afford it.... My husband will be 70 years old this year and still has to work for us to make ends meet at all. What are Americans to do?
    These stories make clear the nation's health care catastrophe isn't just about low-income people struggling to make ends meet. The crisis has hit the heart of the middle class. More than one-third of those without health insurance - 17 million of the nearly 47 million - have family incomes of $40,000 or more, according to the Employee Benefit Research Institute, a nonpartisan organization. More than two-thirds of the uninsured are in households with at least one full-time worker.
    The health care crisis has a multiplying effect: While those who are uninsured face loss of homes and life savings, the rest of us also pick up the bill. Families with health insurance pay premiums that are $922 higher each year to cover the health care costs of the uninsured. Taxpayers foot the bill at $21 billion a year when workers are forced to turn to government health care programs.
    Worse, these experiences depict a nation bifurcated by one health care system for the haves and one for the have-nots. Writes a woman in New Mexico:
    My husband recently had a heart attack and four bypass surgeries. We had no insurance. The doctor says he needs a defibulator or he is going to die. He said he would put in the cheapest defibulator he can find because we have no insurance. I told the doctor it is upsetting to know that he (my husband) wouldn't get the same care and equipment because we don't have health insurance as someone who has it. The doctor's answer to that was, "It makes a difference and a lot of places wouldn't have taken care of him at all." This was a month ago and he hasn't even set up the tests needed for my husband. This is a sad thing. My husband is 62 years old.
    Page after online page, the health care heartaches are pouring in. A woman in Ohio writes she and her retired diabetic husband pay more for health insurance than they receive in income - and when they buy prescription medication, they can't afford food. A Colorado wife wonders if she and her family should discontinue their health care coverage because paying for insurance premiums has put them $20,000 in debt. And although Terry and her husband, a couple in Texas, have health insurance coverage through their jobs, they can't afford to insure their kids - so they drive across the border to Mexico for their care.
    Working America's Health Care Hustle has proved a powerful draw for people hungry to tell their stories - because in too many cases, they have nowhere else to turn. And until we as a nation address this crisis, Anonymous easily could speak for us all:
    We will be working the rest of our lives to pay off these bills and will never achieve the "American dream."
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    Tula Connell is managing editor at the AFL-CIO.
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  63. Hi Lydia and Larry!

    I did listen to the show and it was very good.

    Also, I understand you will be taking callers in the future, which I think is a great idea! ;)

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  64. Reprinted from NewsMax.com

    U.S. Eyes $65 Million Bomb Sale to Israel
    NewsMax.com Wires
    Saturday, April 21, 2007
    WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration announced on Friday the first officially disclosed sale of U.S. military equipment to Israel since the end of Israel's armed conflict with Lebanon in 2006.

    In a notice to Congress, the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency said Israel had requested as many as 3,500 MK-84 "general purpose" bombs, spares and repair parts plus U.S. government technical assistance in a deal worth up to $65 million if all options are exercised.

    General Dynamics Corp. would be the prime contractor. Such congressional notices are required by law for sales that meet certain thresholds, and do not mean a sale has been concluded.

    "Israel's strategic position makes it vital to United States' interests throughout the Middle East," the notice said.

    It said U.S. policy has been to promote Middle East peace, support Israeli commitment to peace with its Arab neighbors, enhance regional stability and promote Israeli readiness and self-sufficiency.

    "It is vital to the U.S. national interest to assist Israel in developing and maintaining a strong and ready self-defense capability," the Pentagon added.

    The last notification of a proposed sale to Israel meeting public disclosure requirements occurred July 14, two days after the start of the 2006 Lebanon war, and involved a sale of JP-8 aviation jet fuel worth up to $210 million.

    On January 29, the State Department said Israel "likely" violated an agreement with Washington in its use of U.S.-made cluster bombs during its war with Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon.

    A U.S. investigation began after reports that three types of U.S.-origin cluster munitions were found in southern Lebanon and were responsible for civilian deaths. Israel has said it deployed such arms in line with international law.

    In a separate notice to Congress on Friday, the Pentagon disclosed a proposed sale to Turkey of MK-54 torpedoes and related equipment valued at up to $105 million.

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  65. We will be working the rest of our lives to pay off these bills and will never achieve the "American dream."
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    Larry:

    Isn't that the sad truth? How many people that should be retiring now have to continue to work so that they can make ends meet?

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  66. Bush's desire to have a White House Correspondent's dinner with little trouble, didn't work out that way.

    A giant Rat walked around in front of the building carrying a sign that read"Russert will Rat You Out."

    Conservative protesters also carried signs berating the media, who are "unfair to Bush."

    Sounds like Rove arranged this.

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  67. In a separate notice to Congress on Friday, the Pentagon disclosed a proposed sale to Turkey of MK-54 torpedoes and related equipment valued at up to $105 million.
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    Larry:

    I think the warmongers would sell weapons to any country...as long as the price is right!

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  68. Susie,

    There are so many retired or should be retired that have to take another job to make ends meet.

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  69. Sounds like Rove arranged this.
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    Or, Cheney...because his buddy Scooter was proven to be a liar by Russert in the CIA Leak trial.

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  70. Larry:

    Yes, and they take those "Greeter" jobs at the Big-Box Mart that don't pay anything!

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  71. Karl Rove and Bush would be better Walmart custodians, with their reputations as arranging thousands of deaths, they don't need to be in public.

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  72. The Pentagon has plans to once again extend the "surge" far beyond what has been announced.

    That means more deaths and blood for Bush to dine on.

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  73. One day after 200 were killed in the bloodiest week yet of the Iraq war, Bush proclaimed that his "surge" is working and the war has already turned the corner in favor of the U.S.

    Who told him that???

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  74. Carl said...

    Pretty silly, if you ask me.

    And pretty unconstitutional if you asked me.

    But since you now live in New York, and I do not I will gladly take your word on it. But it still smacks of police state.

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  75. Lydia I will listen to the radio show tonight. Just got home.

    Sounds like it was a good one.

    You quoted me? People are gonna think you're nuts.

    There's probably a few hundred people write now asking themselves, "whats a worfeus?".

    :|

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  76. As for Iraq, I hope everyone is noticing that they are finally trying to implement Joe Bidens plan to segregate the country, which also happens to be the same plan I've been promoting since I first came in here.(everytime the trolls ask me their right wing talking point question "what's YOUR plan", thats what I gave em).


    Of course the problem here is of course with the execution of that plan.

    We didn't say build a wall between two neighborhoods. What did you guys miss the Berlin wall or something? Now we have to have the Bagdad wall? (this ones in Anbar I think). The Germans and the Russians both tried that. Doesn't work.

    They need to divide up the country as fairly and evenhanded as possible, get the respective sectarian leaders blessings on the division and then skidaddle.

    Let em have at it for a while. It can be the "Divided States of Samaria".

    :|


    Or something like that.

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  77. Worfeus is a prominent name on the Basham and Cornell show.

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  78. They should have divided up Iraq 3 years ago when Biden first suggested it.

    It is probably to late now.

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  79. Edwards opposes South Korean trade deal By DAVID EGGERT, Associated Press Writer

    Presidential candidate John Edwards said Saturday he opposes a free trade agreement between the United States and South Korea, telling Michigan Democrats it would be bad for the auto industry.

    He also talked about some of his policy proposals, which include a withdrawal of forces from Iraq, universal health care and a repeal of some of President Bush's tax cuts.

    Edwards called the Iraq war a "bleeding sore," and said Bush should sign legislation that would fund the war but also set a withdrawal date for troops.

    Bush opposes a withdrawal date.

    "If George Bush vetoes this bill, it is George Bush who's not funding the troops — not the Democratic leadership of Congress," Edwards told about 2,000 Democrats gathered at their annual Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner.

    The former senator and vice presidential candidate from North Carolina made his first visit to the state since 2005, when he pushed for a higher minimum wage on the Capitol steps in Lansing.

    Edwards, who has been out of office since 2004, is competing in a tough Democratic field that includes Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) of Illinois.

    Edwards has been trying to use his Southern roots to distinguish himself as someone who can appeal nationwide. He has made alleviating poverty a central theme of his candidacy.

    Edwards, like other Democratic candidates, has been actively wooing support from labor unions.

    The South Korea trade deal would eliminate U.S. tariffs on Korean vehicles but leave in place a discriminatory tax based on engine size that disproportionately affects American cars, Edwards said in a statement released before his speech.

    He told the audience that South Korean workers lack basic labor rights, and added that the deal wrongly opens up American markets to Korean agricultural imports but doesn't allow American beef into Korea.

    American beef has been banned in South Korea for more than three years after mad cow disease was discovered in the U.S.

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  80. Larry said...
    They should have divided up Iraq 3 years ago when Biden first suggested it.

    It is probably to late now


    It was too late the day we went in. And its not a perfect solution to be sure, but I think its the only one, and at the end of the day the only one we'll have left.

    Bush and whats left of the right wing's plan is to kill. Plain and simple. Kill as they put it, "the bad guys". Never mind the "bad guys" are mostly young college kids and others who see their moms or sisters killed by the Americans, and they do in turn what any red blooded American would do. They kill the fu$#kers who killed their mom.

    Bush's plan is to make em hate us, then when they try to fight back, kill em all.

    His plan is evil.

    Ours is humane and reasonable.

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  81. :|


    The DIVIDED STATES OF SAMARIA.


    Bet you wish you'd said that Volt.

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  82. Bush's plan is one of a deranged madman who would as soon kill a puppy as to eat a meal.

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  83. 54 civilians killed today in Somalia while Bush munches on pork fritters.

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  84. Whats a fritter?



    Is that like a critter?

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  85. Gee Larry, is EVERY death in the entire world Bush's fault?

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  86. Nah Worf, I'm not much on hyperbole these days...

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  87. It is a critter, like a tenderloin patty.

    Hillrods like Bush probably passed them out to their servants, since it isn't a rich blooded food.

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  88. Voltron said...
    Gee Larry, is EVERY death in the entire world Bush's fault?


    Lately.

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  89. Voltron said...

    Nah Worf, I'm not much on hyperbole these days...


    I wouldn't sell yourself short.

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  90. Six years worth.

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  91. Take all you're overgrown infants away,,,,, some,,,,where,,,

    and build them a home.

    A little place of their own.

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  92. The Fletcher Memorial

    home for incurable TYRANTS....

    and kings.....

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  93. They could appear to themselves everyday.......on close circuit TV....

    To make sure they're still real......

    Its the only connection......they feel

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  94. Ladies and Gentlemen,

    please welcome......

    Reagan and Haig......

    Mr Bagin and friends.....


    Mrs Thatcher the Paisely......and the ghost of McCarthy.....

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  95. If they feel that.

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  96. and now adding color....

    a group of anonymous Latin American beet packing gliterality.....

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  97. Don't forget Kissinger.

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  98. Did they expect us to treat them with any respect?........



    They can polish their medals, and sharpen their smiles....

    and amuse themselves, playing games for a while.......

    Boom Boom

    Bang Bang .....lie down you're dead..........

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  99. If only the world had listened to Roger Waters.

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  100. I WORFEUS said..

    There's probably a few hundred people write now asking themselves, "whats a worfeus?".
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    Hi Worf:

    Yep but maybe they will come to this blog and find out!

    LOL

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  101. Sorry Larry. I hear Pink Floyd in my head.

    :|


    Everytime I think of Bush I think of that song.

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  102. Suzie-Q said...

    Yep but maybe they will come to this blog and find out!



    God help me.

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  103. Nothing wrong with that Worf. Sometimes a song can say it all.

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  104. Floyds been saying it right for 40 years.

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  105. Attention All Vietnam Vets:

    Bush may recall Viet Nam Vets to active duty as shortages in the military mount.

    After that will be WWII vets what few are still living.

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  106. Not many like Pink Floyd and certainly none on their way up.

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  107. Suzie-Q said...

    Yep but maybe they will come to this blog and find out!


    God help me.
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    Worf:

    LOLMAO

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  108. Attention All Vietnam Vets:

    Bush may recall Viet Nam Vets to active duty as shortages in the military mount.

    After that will be WWII vets what few are still living.
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    Larry:

    ROFLMAO

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  109. I bet there is some Floyd on You Tube for your viewing pleasure.

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  110. They knew Bush's type back then.

    Bush is spreading evil. Thats all he does.

    Look at Russia, backsliding into a police state. Putin is emboldened by the Bush doctrine (tyranny rules) and it is getting worse.

    The only answer is to impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney, there is nothing else that will fix this.

    Which is why its gotta happen. Which is why its going to happen.

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  111. The problem is democrats like Clinton, and even Obama I don't think want to impeach Bush. They are running for President, and if Bush and Cheney are impeached, then it gives Pelosi the presidency. (A nice granny figure is exactly what we need right now to ease international relations. She could make Kim Jong Ill some oatmeal cookies.)

    Clinton and Obama don't want Pelosi as president, because if she does a half way decent job then she's going to get the DNC nod.

    How its going to happen, I don't know. But I predict that like with Nixon, at one point SOON, the congress on both sides will just be left with no other choice.

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  112. The bad thing about Pelosi is she said before and since the elections that there will be no impeachment.

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  113. How many Senators didn't vote for war?

    Kennedy and Feingold. Very few others.

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  114. (A nice granny figure is exactly what we need right now to ease international relations. She could make Kim Jong Ill some oatmeal cookies.)
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    Worf:

    Heck, I bet she could read him some bedtime stories too!

    LMAO

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  115. Suzie-Q said...


    Heck, I bet she could read him some bedtime stories too!



    Little Red Riding Nuke

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  116. "The Three Little MIG's"

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  117. I like that Worf.

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  118. Three blind Republicans.

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  119. "The Little Uranium that Could"

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  120. Little Red Riding Nuke
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    Worf:

    Maybe they can strap Darth and Dumbyeah on that!

    LOLMAO

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  121. "The Prince and the 23 Million Paupers"

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  122. I appreciate Doug Basham's observations as regards Iraq vs. Virginia Tech. The only thing I would have done differently was I'd have proportioned it to the US population and done some extrapolating :)

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  123. Jong and Jill went up the hill,

    to fetch a pail of heavy water.....

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  124. Oh, and here's a NCLB story you won't be hearing about in the Chimpromised MSM.

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  125. At least Bush still has Amrstrong Williams to defend him, as long as the money is right.

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  126. Chimpy has to pay someone off to defend him, because his rabid supporters are unable to write their own articles-they must wait for their instructions to be handed down, as we here have seen far too many times already.

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  127. Even Williams will be raising his Bush promotional rates.

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  128. An Iraqi official was killed today in Baghdad, shortly after he assumed his job. His three predessors were also killed.

    Sounds like the "surge" is working!

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  129. Yeah, those walled-off neighborhoods are gonna work real well too. Just look at how well they worked in Vietnam...

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  130. It makes it easier to bomb more people, with those walls.

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  131. It makes it easier to bomb more people, with those walls.

    The Cong found it much easier to round up village officials (and their GI advisers) that way as well.

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  132. The more confined in a smaller place the greater the target.

    Not that they need help with targets.

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  133. Hello Lydia and All
    Sorry, I've been gone for a long time but we finally got internet working at our house in Germany, and we've been busy with leave, work, and some extra travel, not to mention the two year old that just assumed control over our house and every waking moment. We've been back from Iraq since the end of February. We're in Germany for about another month then we move to our next assignment in Virginia for six months, and from there we dont know yet.

    I've been listening to your show via "podcast" for the past few weeks and I keep kicking myself because it always seems like we're busy when it comes on. I would have loved to talk to Rep. Rangel or Mr. Weinsteen, especially being an atheist in the military. I'm a member of Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers, and apparently some sort of anomaly. It's hard to find someone who's being shot at that will still refute the existance of god.

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  134. Voltron said...
    Nah Worf, I'm not much on hyperbole these days...


    TRANSLATION:

    Ever since Carl discovered how big a bigot I really am, I'm keeping a low profile.

    It's all in caches, Widdle Twucker. Don't pout! Be who you are! Find out how despicable you really are!

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  135. Mike said...
    Also Carl, i'm "ASSUMING" that your point about the subway was it is pretty pointless and riddiculous to have random searches at certain subway stops when all a real terrorist has to do is turn around and walk a few blocks to the next one without guards or searches and get right on.


    Yup.

    Worse than that, Mike, at big stations like Grand Central or Times Square, when they have these random checks, they'll do it at one or two entrances. Those stations have a half dozen entrances. It's fairly easy to see how a determined operative could get past the random checks, no problem.

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  136. Lydia Cornell said...
    Oh yeah I quoted Carl and Worf.


    Rats. I only tuned in for the Weinstein bit.

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  137. Larry said...
    Reprinted from NewsMax.com


    You could have stopped right there, and I would have been rolling on the floot laughing, Larry.

    Newsmax has less credibility than Drudge. It's a shill for AIPAC and other neo-conservative organs (pun intended) and hasn't published a fact in years.

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  138. I WORFEUS said...
    But since you now live in New York, and I do not I will gladly take your word on it. But it still smacks of police state.


    Ain't disagreeing with you on that, particularly since it's not going to accomplish much.

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  139. Larry said...
    They should have divided up Iraq 3 years ago when Biden first suggested it.


    Yes, but even now, the Kurds are doing well, and we ought to give them a fair chance to run their own territory. Put some troops on their border with the Sunni middle and we can start getting our asses out of there.

    Finally.

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  140. Jolly Roger said...
    Yeah, those walled-off neighborhoods are gonna work real well too. Just look at how well they worked in Vietnam...


    A couple years ago, I went to a Peter Gabriel concert, during which he said "You can buils walls and keep building them higher and higher, and eventually, you trap yourself inside."

    Boy, was that ever prescient.

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  141. Tompaine! It's good to hear from you.

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  142. Baghdad:

    Suicide bombers hit a police station killing 13 and wounding 82.

    That "surge" is really working!

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  143. Corruption infested Congressman John Boy Doolittle says he will not resign, and he is running for re-election.

    Those corrupt Republicans just won't give up that power.

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  144. "Ever since Carl discovered how big a bigot I really am, I'm keeping a low profile.

    It's all in caches, Widdle Twucker. Don't pout! Be who you are! Find out how despicable you really are!"

    -Carl

    Like I said Carl, POST IT. YOU'RE A DAMN LIAR. I have NEVER used that phrase.

    However, I have seen YOUR gay/scat and sex/murder porn...

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  146. Sheryl Crow and Laurie David were introduced to Karl Rove at the White House Correspondents dinner.

    In the midst of small talk, Sheryl Crow asked Rove would he consider taking another look at the issue of Global Warming.

    Rove immediately went into a tirade against the two women, and ended up getting loud and obnoxious.

    Those Republicans sure do care about what people think!

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  147. JMM, Volt, I'll be is Boston on business this week (until) Wednesday, but I'll check in from time to time.

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  148. There are some worse examples Johnny, but you couldn't post them on a PG board...

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  149. BTW, Didn't Juliet live in Boston?

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  150. Yes she did Volt. One of her protectors wrote this about carl:

    "I would encourage all of you to just ignore him. He will go away. He'll stay as long as he gets to relieve his pathological anger on anybody. These types feel a temporary relief from their misery when they attack. It becomes like an addiction in so far as they feel that temporary relief."


    There are serious bulletins dating back as long as five years ago warning others of carls violent nature.

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  151. Carl, you should stay away from VT or other colleges, given your history of violent writing, writing that portrays women as victims of violent murder, etc. And Lydia, you should reconsider who you pick to guest blog.

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  152. Lydia, again you amaze us with just the right post at just the right time. I applaud your teaching tolerance at home. Here's what the other extreme can be like.

    I was about nine years old, I think, and was snorkeling in the bay near my home. I came up under the boat, banged my head, and lost consciousness. A boy in a boat nearby jumped in and pulled my head out of the water, saving my life. I took him home, and told my father what he had done. To that my father replied: "I don't care what he did. Get that little nigger out of my house!" Up until that day, I had believed that blacks were inferior. Not my fault. It was what I had been taught and I had no basis to believe otherwise. That day I learned that I could not trust my father's judgments about the world. I subsequently became a civil rights activist. Compared with my experience, your children are indeed fortunate.

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  153. Larry said...

    Those corrupt Republicans just won't give up that power.
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    Larry:

    He will if he is indicted and convicted...

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  154. Hi Lydia and Everyone! ;)

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  155. Larry said...
    Sheryl Crow and Laurie David were introduced to Karl Rove at the White House Correspondents dinner.

    In the midst of small talk, Sheryl Crow asked Rove would he consider taking another look at the issue of Global Warming.

    Rove immediately went into a tirade against the two women, and ended up getting loud and obnoxious.



    When Rove rudely turned away Sheryl Crow lightly touched his shoulder.

    Rove turned and bellowed "DON'T TOUCH ME".

    :|

    These are the people you elected Voltron.

    Are you sure this is the lot you want to be numbered among?

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  156. Well, I agree he could've kept his voice lower and said "please" first.

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  157. In all fairness though, he probably didn't know who she was.

    Add to that the fact that your side has made him quite a target for radicals, I can understand him being a little gun shy.

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  158. Voltron said...
    In all fairness though, he probably didn't know who she was.


    I doubt that.

    Crow and her pal have been outspoken public and highly visible opponents of the Bush administration.

    Its his job to know who they are.

    You might pass that right wing two step off on a novice in here, but it won't fly by me.

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  159. He acted like a worm, not a man.

    He showed he is no great man, but a meanspirited petty one.

    If thats what passes for how powerful man treats women with you, then perhaps I need to reassess my impression of you.

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  160. Hey, just making a suggestion.

    Although I've heard OF her, I wouldn't know who she was if I bumped into her at the grocery store.

    (I did just google a picture of her just to see who we were talking about, so maybe now I would recognize her...)

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  161. Activists Worf.

    Are you pleasant to women who have said nasty things about you, and are going to take anything you say and twist it anyway?

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  162. When Crow pointed out to him that it was inappropriate to talk that way to her, as he technically works for her and people like her, Rove blurted out, "I DON'T WORK FOR YOU. I WORK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE", which demonstrates a key flaw in the Rove doctrine.

    In his mind, only supporters of the President are "the American People".

    And I would stake my life on that.

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  163. Technically Worf, he doesn't work for her specifically, he works for the American people in general. (as in ALL of them)

    Here once again you have me defending someone that I'm actually quite ambivalent about. I'm neither fond of Karl Rove nor do hate him.

    And you're right, had it been me I'd have been more polite about it. I'd have gently removed her hand and said in a calm quiet voice "Please don't touch me."

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  164. Voltron said...


    Are you pleasant to women who have said nasty things about you, and are going to take anything you say and twist it anyway?



    Your second statement is unfounded and ridiculous.

    As for your question its just a red herring. Rove is in a position of power. He is a public official and was in a public formal setting.

    Any decent, good man, would have stood there and listened to what she had to say, and offered to consider her words and excused himself.

    Rove acted like a uneducated, ignorant pig.

    Which is a common thread among the Bushites.

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  165. Voltron said...

    Technically Worf, he doesn't work for her specifically, he works for the American people in general. (as in ALL of them)


    You are becoming rather boorish yourself there. No wonder Carl rails on you. Your mindnumbingly inane response above being a prime example.

    Here. Let me help you before you hurt yourself.

    Crow did not say that he worked for her soley, nor did she even imply it.

    Only the most inane inbred ignorant jackass, would claim thats what she was trying to say.

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  166. Two AMERICANS approached Rove, and he DOES work for them. When ANY of us contacts a public official, we expected to be treated as such.

    Rove clearly considers that Bush supporters alone qualifies as American people.

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  167. Here's a fair question: Does anyone have the actual audio or a video of the event?

    Ms. David has her version, I don't know if Rove has his version, but the "tape doesn't lie," as they used to say.

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  168. "Ms. Crow reportedly told him: “You can’t speak to us like that, you work for us.”
    “I don’t work for you, I work for the American people,” came the reply.
    And that was that."

    -The New York Times

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  169. Nothing on YouTube TT.

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  170. Rove is a criminal. He sold a war to sell a president, and deceived a nation in the process. He lied. He cheated. He sent hundreds of thousands to their deaths.

    He will end up in prison, of this I am certain.

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  171. Better yet, lets just be done with it.

    I don't care what Cheryl Crow has to say, and I don't care what Karl Rove says either...

    "The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on."
    -Old Arab proverb

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  172. Tell you what.

    Why don't you two chuckleheads go see if you can find something to defend the guy Voltron just spent a dozen posts defending, while proclaiming loudly how he is not defending him.

    I've got things to do.

    If either of you think of anything intelligent or original to say, shout.

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  173. I WORFEUS said...
    Larry said...
    Sheryl Crow and Laurie David were introduced to Karl Rove at the White House Correspondents dinner.

    In the midst of small talk, Sheryl Crow asked Rove would he consider taking another look at the issue of Global Warming.

    Rove immediately went into a tirade against the two women, and ended up getting loud and obnoxious.



    When Rove rudely turned away Sheryl Crow lightly touched his shoulder.

    Rove turned and bellowed "DON'T TOUCH ME".

    :|

    These are the people you elected Voltron.

    Are you sure this is the lot you want to be numbered among?"

    I'm sure Rove isnt acustomed to being touched by a woman its probably a rare occurence for the little troll.

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  174. Voltron said...
    Better yet, lets just be done with it.


    Better yet, take your offensive ugly belief system and your lying weasel ass off this blog, Widdle Twucker.

    "Oh, wet's not tawk about dis annamore...My didee is wet!"

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  175. Why it's Carl the liar, what's up Carl.

    How about YOUR ugly belief system?

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  176. Voltron said...

    Are you pleasant to women who have said nasty things about you


    Look pussy, just because we abuse your subhuman ass when you say nasty shit about us, don't take it out on a live human woman...

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  177. Voltron said...
    In all fairness though, he probably didn't know who she was.

    Add to that the fact that your side has made him quite a target for radicals, I can understand him being a little gun shy."

    In all fairness though............BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    The little Brute is a public servant there to seerve the people..............its totally irrelevant WHO she was, she was an American citizen respectfully and civilly asking him a REASONABLE question..................So "IN ALL FAIRNESS" why the hell couldnt Rove have behaved in a RESPECTFUL and REASONABLE manner as well.

    Also Volty how come YOUR not appalled at the way he responded to two perfectly civil and reasonable women asking a perfectly reasonable question...............For a guy who pisses and moans like a little girl when he is acting reaonable and resperctful and gets disrespected and attacked by others its amusing how you can be such a partisan hippocrite when YOUR partisan cronnies do far worse..........YOU WERE NOT ELECTED or APPOINTED TO SERVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ROVE WAS!

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  178. Voltron said...
    However, I have seen YOUR gay/scat and sex/murder porn...



    Ohhhh, that's been trotted out against me time and time again, pussy.

    I don't need to defend what I wrote, and I certainly don't need to defend the ones that were written about me.

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  179. Be original, nappyheaded HoHo...

    Oh. Wait. I forgot...YOU can't!

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  180. Oh gee, well you certainly seem to think I need to defend something I DIDN'T write....

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  181. Larry said...
    Corruption infested Congressman John Boy Doolittle says he will not resign, and he is running for re-election.


    Isn't that what Mark Foley said, just before he was forced to fall on his sword?

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  182. Voltron said...
    Oh gee, well you certainly seem to think I need to defend something I DIDN'T write....


    It's interesting that you felt you needed to explain that, Widdle Twucker...

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  183. Careful Johnny, most of that is X rated at least...

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  184. I WORFEUS said...
    Tell you what.

    Why don't you two chuckleheads go see if you can find something to defend the guy Voltron just spent a dozen posts defending, while proclaiming loudly how he is not defending him.

    I've got things to do.

    If either of you think of anything intelligent or original to say, shout."

    Sure Volt its kinda amusing how you can claim you werent defending your thugs when thats EXACTLY what YOU just spent the day doing!

    You basically just tried to say Crow is not an American citizen............thats a good one Dolty..........Rove is a public servant, it does not matter who someone is he is there to serve the American public not the other way around.

    Rove and Bush seem to think the peasants and serfs are their loyal subjects and are put on this earth to serve them and show fealty instead of the other way around.

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  185. Yes, GooGoo. I wrote that.

    By your logic, Stephen King should be under psychiatric evaluation too.

    Instead, he's a million dollar writer.

    And you? You're just a pedophilic little asshole who's about to receive Surprise #3!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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  186. You seem to have a sexual bent there Carl that Stephen King doesn't...

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  187. Take responsibility for your words, Widdle Twucker, like I just did!

    BIG SHMILE! BIG SHMILE! BIG SHMILE!

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  188. Voltron said...
    You seem to have a sexual bent there Carl that Stephen King doesn't...


    It seems you're interpreting your own bending, Widdle Twucker.

    You and Texasshole spend a night "camping" in a motel on I-5?

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  189. Million dollar writer...LOL

    And you write it for free.

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  190. Well, minister, for someone who apparently preaches peace& goodwill towards your fellow man, you sure pick violent topics.

    Try writing about something that may benefit the ant farm.......like childrens books or something?!

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  191. I'll gladly take responsibility for anything I've actually said.

    You however can't even post a link or an entire quote, because you don't have one.

    I've NEVER used that expression.

    Your a liar.

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  192. You know the rules Goo Goo, shut your troll mouth before you get a little help in shutting It!

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  193. No Carl, please DON'T write childrens books, OK?

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  194. Oh look Gonzalez is about to be FORCED to resign and Rove spits in the face of an American citizen and the pathetic trolls want to deflect and talk about one of the bloggers!

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  195. Yes "GooGoo", let Carl slime anybody he wants, but don't call him on anything HE'S actually done...

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  196. Now, here we have a story that examines why someone gets under enormous stress through pain and hurt, and extrapolates how he could be narcisstic enough to hurt someone.

    Sort of like Cho Seung-Hui.

    Very timely. Thank you, GooGoo. I had forgotten I wrote this. I may have to make a blog post about it this week.

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  197. Never said it at all Carl, as usual your LYING...

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  198. What's the matter, GooGoo?

    Wishing you had done this to your last girlfriend?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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