Tuesday, April 24, 2007

THE CRIME BENEATH THE CRIME

"Love is what's in the room with you at Christmas if you stop opening presents and listen."
Bobby - age 7 (Wow!)

"If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate,"
Nikka - age 6
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Stephen Pitt Political Cartoons

Before we get into the truth behind Gonzo-Gate, POTENTIALLY HABITABLE PLANET FOUND!! THIS IS EXCITING!!
By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON - For the first time astronomers have discovered a planet outside our solar system that is potentially habitable, with Earth-like temperatures, a find researchers described Tuesday as a big step in the search for "life in the universe."

The planet is just the right size, might have water in liquid form, and in galactic terms is relatively nearby at 120 trillion miles away. But the star it closely orbits, known as a "red dwarf," is much smaller, dimmer and cooler than our sun.
Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070425/ap_on_sc/habitable_planet_5

Did the most powerful Republicans in America have the computer capacity, software skills and electronic infrastructure in place on election night 2004 to tamper with the Ohio results to ensure George W. Bush's re-election?

The answer appears to be yes.

On Election Night 2004, the Republican Party not only controlled the vote-counting process in Ohio, the final presidential swing state, through a secretary of state who was a co-chair of the Bush campaign, but it also controlled the technology that allowed the tally of the vote in Ohio's 88 counties to be reported to the media and voters.

Privatizing elections and allowing known partisans to run a key presidential vote count is troubling enough. But the reason Congress must investigate these high-tech ties is there is abundant evidence that Republicans could have used this computing network to delay announcing the winner of Ohio's 2004 election while tinkering with the results.

Read more below, but first an editorial comment:

Because we love America, love our freedoms, love our constitution and despise lies, war, death and destruction... and because we cherish our troops and want to bring them safely home, we must continue to hold these criminals in the Bush administration accountable. We must hold their feet to the fire, or else we are being un-American. These people do not seem to have America's best interests at heart. We are Americans and deserve honest, ethical leaders who work for the people. After all, the United States is unique in all the world as government BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE AND OF THE PEOPLE.

Regular viewers of mainstream news, and especially Fox News are never told the whole truth. With smoke and mirrors, they distract us from the truth; they obfuscate. In the Alberto Gonzales hearings, what is the crime beneath the outer crime of lying and "I can't remember?" Is it obstruction of justice? What is Gonzo-Gate really all about? Why is Congress so interested in getting to the bottom of why these attorneys were fired? Brad Friedman of BradBlog.com, who has worked tirelessly for three years to uncover shocking evidence of GOP ELECTION FRAUD, CORRUPTOIN AND ELECTION THEFT, exposes it and so does Bob Fritakis.

GOP's Cyber Election Hit Squad Exposed
Steven Rosenfeld and Bob Fitrakis
April 24, 2007

Bob Fitrakis is a political science professor and attorney in the King Lincoln Bronzeville civil rights lawsuit against Ken Blackwell. Fitrakis, Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman are authors of What Happened in Ohio? A documentary record of theft and fraud in the 2004 election.

Did the most powerful Republicans in America have the computer capacity, software skills and electronic infrastructure in place on election night 2004 to tamper with the Ohio results to ensure George W. Bush's re-election?

The answer appears to be yes. There is more than ample documentation to show that on Election Night 2004 , Ohio's "official" Secretary of State website—which gave the world the presidential election results—was redirected from an Ohio government server to a group of servers that contain scores of Republican web sites, including the secret White House e-mail accounts that have emerged in the scandal surrounding Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s firing of eight federal prosecutors.

Recent revelations have documented that the Republican National Committee (RNC) ran a secret White House e-mail system for Karl Rove and dozens of White House staffers. This high-tech system used to count and report the 2004 presidential vote—from server-hosting contracts, to software-writing services, to remote-access capability, to the actual server usage logs themselves—must be added to the growing congressional investigations.

Numerous tech-savvy bloggers, starting with the online investigative consortium epluribusmedia.org and their November 2006 article cross-posted by contributor luaptifer to Dailykos , and Joseph Cannon's blog at Cannonfire.blogspot.com, outed the RNC tech network. That web-hosting firm is SMARTech Corp. of Chattanooga, TN, operating out of the basement in the old Pioneer Bank building. The firm hosts scores of Republican websites, including georgewbush.com, gop.com and rnc.org.

The software created for the Ohio secretary of state’s Election Night 2004 website was created by GovTech Solutions, a firm co-founded by longtime GOP computing guru Mike Connell. He also redesigned the Bush campaign's website in 2000 and told Inside Business magazine in 1999, "I wouldn't be where I am today without the Bush campaign and the Bush family because the Bushes truly are about family and I’m loyal to my network."

Ohio's Cedarville University, a Christian school with 3,100 students, issued a press release on January 13, 2005 describing how faculty member Dr. Alan Dillman’s computing company Government Consulting Resources, Ltd, worked with these Republican-connected companies to tally the vote on Election Night 2004.

"Dillman personally led the effort from the GCR side, teaming with key members of Blackwell's staff," the release said. "GCR teamed with several other firms—including key players such as GovTech Solutions, which performed the software development—to deliver the end result. SMARTech provided the backup and additional system capacity, and Mercury Interactive performed the stress testing."

On Election Night 2004, the Republican Party not only controlled the vote-counting process in Ohio, the final presidential swing state, through a secretary of state who was a co-chair of the Bush campaign, but it also controlled the technology that allowed the tally of the vote in Ohio's 88 counties to be reported to the media and voters.

Privatizing elections and allowing known partisans to run a key presidential vote count is troubling enough. But the reason Congress must investigate these high-tech ties is there is abundant evidence that Republicans could have used this computing network to delay announcing the winner of Ohio's 2004 election while tinkering with the results.

Did Ohio Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell or other GOP operatives inflate the president's vote totals to secure George W. Bush's margin of victory? On Election Night 2004, many of the totals reported by the secretary of state were based on local precinct results that were impossible. In Clyde, Ohio, a Republican haven, Bush won big after 131 percent voter turnout. In Republican Perry County, two precincts came in at 124 percent and 120 percent respectively. In Gahanna Ward 1, precinct B, Bush received 4,258 votes despite the fact that only 638 people voted for president. In Concord Southwest in Miami County, the certified election results proudly proclaimed at 679 out of 689 registered voters cast ballots, a 98.55 percent turnout. FreePress.org later found that only 547 voters had signed in.

These strange election results were routed by county election officials through Ohio's Secretary of State's office, through partisan IT providers and software, and the final results were hosted out of a computer based in Tennessee announcing the winner. The Cedarville University releases boasted the system "was running like a champ." It said, "The system kept running through the early morning hours as users from around the world looked to Ohio for their election results."
(read more at www.tompaine.com)

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THE UNDERLYING CRIME: White House Interference into a U.S. Attorney's Criminal Investigation in Missouri

High-Level White House, DoJ, Rove Operatives Went to Work While now-Fired Prosecutor Bud Cummins Was Building a Case Against Missouri Governor Matt Blunt and the WH Connected MO Law Firm Lathrope & Gage...

"You have to firewall politics out of the Department of Justice. Because once it gets in, people question every decision you make," the former U.S. Attorney from Arkansas, Bud Cummins, told the Los Angeles Times in March. "Now I keep asking myself: 'What about the Blunt deal?'"

What about the Blunt deal, indeed.

Last Thursday we began piecing together a few previously unconnected dots in the firing of Cummins. The dots connected appear to lay out a fairly straight arrow into the the highest levels of the White House. At least if you're familiar with some of the players, whom they know, and what they do for a living....
Click Here for the rest of the story: http://bradblog.com/

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633 comments:

  1. The Ohio election in 2004 was stolen just like the 2000 Florida was, by a corrupt secretary of state who used their position working for the citizens of their state to illegally dis-enroll primarily minority voters in heavily democratic precincts to help set up the out right theft of the american Citizens right to control those who are elected, but instead have a small minority of criminals steal the election.

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  2. Great posts there, Lydia, they really demonstrate how low Republicans will sink, even to subverting the Constitutional rights of millions, in order to ram home a failed agenda.

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  3. Well, except for the habitable planet one. But could we exile Bush there once he's out of office?

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  4. Carl we have NO right to send the problem which is Bush to others who might suffer from it, he is our burden because too many of our fellow citizens are greedy SOB's

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  5. Clif,

    Good point.

    OK, how abut to an inhospitable planet?

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  6. If anyone missed Joe Scarboroughs public statement he just made, then you need to catch the rerun.

    Scarborough (A former republican congressmen) looked the camera in the eye, and said (paraphrasing) "You're hearing this from a war hawk and someone who supported this war from the beginning, until the destruction of the mosque, then I realized this thing was lost. Unless the American taxpayers pony up and are willing to pay enough taxes to fund 300 to 400 thousand troops to send there, and thats not gonna happen, then theres no way we're gonna win this thing".

    It was amazing.

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  7. I WORFEUS said...
    I don't see Bush as President however next year. I don't know whats going to happen, but I see Bush and Cheney either impeached or forced to resign. Will Nancy Pelosi be the President? I imagine so. If we follow the constitution.


    iWorf,

    The way this would probably break is like the Nixon administration: Cheney would resign, the Congress would graciously allow Bush to appoint a new Veep (who would have to pass a Senate confirmation, so look for someone with moderate credentials, possibly Giuliani), and then Bush would be impeached, tried, hanged, and convicted.

    Not necessarily in that order, of course.

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  8. Look this article is pretty earth shaking.

    Read it again, the big article by Fritakis.

    The white house emails were redirected... and the votes went there too... straight to Rove on election night.

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  9. They will do it again, and it's pretty hard to get people to believe in vote rigging.

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  10. Lydia.

    You MUST see Scarborough Country from today. His interview with Bill Maher on Christianity was incredible.

    Scarborough actually hit the important points in defending Christianity.

    Maher makes excellent points too, but he has what the scientific community calls "an axe to grind".

    So does Scarborough of course, as do all Christians, but they admit it. Maher comes in under the guise of impartiality and yet he's not. He's a "debunker", and his goal is to refute Christianity and most if not all of its followers.

    Scarborough did a good job of pointing out the true message of Christianity that these evangelicals have completely missed.

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  11. No Carl. I think Cheney will be more of a target than Bush.

    No ones going to let him go.

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  12. Lyd,

    When I heard that 5 million emails were "deleted," I assumed many if not most dealt with the illegalities of Karl Rove and specifically, the theft of two Presidential elections.

    Why can't Republicans play by the rules? Ever notice it's them breaking the rules in some Machiavellian "ends justifies the means" sortie into American Constitutional law?

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  13. iWorf,

    Spiro Agenw ended up with a criminal conviction because of what he did while VP. No doubt Cheney will too.

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  14. Least thats my two cents.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Cheney will be impeached or forced to resign along with Bush.

    The Tillman\Lynch thing today shocked even me in thier frankness and openess in condemning the Bush administration. Tillmans Brother was eloquent and rock hard in his conviction, and he spoke with power and authority. Lynch was precise and to the point, and Tillmans Mom was riveting.

    This one did some damage.

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  15. I agree, iWorf. Particularly Lynch, who had kept a low profile, especially after the right wing tried painting here as a whore and slut when she rather timidly tried to say "no no, I'm no hero"...

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  16. Those emails are damaging for Rove.

    Deleting them could potentially get him in more trouble than what may have been in them.

    That plus the Hatch Act violations and no wonder he blew up at Crow.

    He's looking at some hard time.

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  17. "On November 11, 2003, Larry Flynt announced to the Associated Press he purchased photographs of a "fully nude" Lynch who was "frolicking with the soldiers" in an Army barracks. Flynt told the press that the soldiers who sold him the photos "wanted to let it be known that she's not all apple pie." While Flynt admitted he bought nude photos of PFC Jessica Lynch to publish in Hustler magazine, he later changed his mind and the photos were not released. Flynt claimed his decision to "lock [the photographs] in a vault" was because he thought she was a "good kid" who became "a pawn for the government." "Some things are more important than money," he said. "You gotta do the right thing." Thus, the photographs have never been leaked or published."

    God bless Larry Flynt for protecting this poor kid from being raped by the Republicans.

    Larry Flynt, more moral than Republicans...

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  18. Lynch should be admired for her courage and dedication to the truth. A lesser person (me for example) might have went along with the lie so I could have some medals and be a national hero.

    She displayed more than courage. She showed amazing moral clarity.

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  19. Plus she's looking pretty tasty these days.

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  20. Thats an amazing story about Larry Flynt.

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  21. iWorf! She's a mom!

    And a MILF....yum.

    But yes, it's funny how an ordinary citizen shows more courage standing up to her government than her government showed in standing her up and parading her around as a hero.

    We toss that term around like it was candy: Giuliani was a hero for doing his job on 9/11, for example, but the real heroes of that day have been treated so shabbily and so tragically that it deflates the meaning of the word until it means next to nothing.

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  22. Funny, for a guy under that much stress, Karl sure didn't lose his appetite...

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  23. Sorry Lydia.

    I wasn't hearing you.

    You're right. I am just reading the article now.

    This is unbelievable.

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  24. From the article;

    There is more than ample documentation to show that on Election Night 2004 , Ohio's "official" Secretary of State website—which gave the world the presidential election results—was redirected from an Ohio government server to a group of servers that contain scores of Republican web sites, including the secret White House e-mail accounts that have emerged in the scandal surrounding Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s firing of eight federal prosecutors.



    This is blockbuster.

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  25. was redirected from an Ohio government server to a group of servers that contain scores of Republican web sites, including the secret White House e-mail accounts that have emerged in the scandal surrounding Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s firing of eight federal prosecutors.

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  26. Who's more American:

    "If John Kerry was elected president, Mr. Cheney warned the crowd, "the danger is that we’ll get hit again." In a long, rather rambling statement, he said the United States might then fall back into a "pre-9/11 mind-set" that "these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts.""

    Or...

    "Appearing as a witness at the Congressional committee investigating military misinformation from the battlefield, Jessica Lynch said: "Tales of great heroism were being told. My parent's home in Wirt county [West Virginia] was under siege of the media all repeating the story of the little girl Rambo from the hills who went down fighting. It was not true.""

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  27. :O


    was that wrong.....?

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  28. Um, question: weren't these machines supposed to be un-networked? How did they report results directly to a web server?

    Let me see if the article explains that...

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  29. So now we see that the attorney firings may just be a tasty crunchy surface crust, concealing a much juicier sweetened filling.

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  30. Ah, I see they weren't unnetworked, as I had been told they were supposed to be.

    Hmmmmm...this is indeed troubling for fans of freedom

    *narf*

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  31. A public tally reporting server has nothing to do with the Voting Machine systems.

    This is just where "officials" upload the tally results.

    Inaccurate early Tally results can cause changes in the outcome of the election. And the state government was redirecting people to RNC controlled servers?

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  32. So iWorf, you think we'll finally get rid of the bastard coated bastards with bastard filling?

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  33. Right, and if I'm not mistaken the original voting machines did not have a paper trail.

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  34. Yes. I think that either impeachment or forced resignation in the face of looming impeachment will force an end to the Bush regime.

    Does Pelosi have what it takes to be president? Guess we better hope she does.

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  35. Carl said...
    Right, and if I'm not mistaken the original voting machines did not have a paper trail.


    Thats correct.

    President Bush made sure of that, buy publically explaining in 03 why we didn't need one with the new fangled voting pewters.

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  36. BTW, someone who hates me (a wide group) deleted my picture.

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  37. Hey Pelosi's got the subservient headscarf and ability to lie about what the Israeli president said.

    That alone is ample qualification to be a dhimmicrat President.

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  38. FF, if you had half a brain I'd respond to that gibberish, however you don't, so I won't.

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  39. At least there are still good Americans, and thank God so many of them are in the military. Look at the Tilman brothers. Look at Jessica Lynch.

    They're not beguiled by you Freedom Fart.

    Neither are we.

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  40. Freedom Fan said...
    Hey Pelosi's got the subservient headscarf and ability to lie about what the Israeli president said.


    Hey look! It's a member of the He-Man Wimmin Hater's Club!

    So when did you stop beating up women, Widdle Wizard?

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  41. iWorf,

    How does someone delete a picture? And I can see it, by the way.

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  42. Your hour of glory has come and gone.

    A century or more will pass before you chuckleheads live this one down.

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  43. I WORFEUS said...
    Your hour of glory has come and gone


    Right up his glory hole.

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  44. It was nice, thinking of Pelosi, to see an American politician not bend and scrape to the Israelis.

    "Yessuh! Right away, suh! Annathing you want, suh!"

    They have some hard thinking to do these next eight to 100 years...

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  45. "GOP's Cyber Election Hit Squad Exposed"

    Damn. It looks like the Karl Rove and Diebold conspiracy has been exposed (again).

    The first time these liberal geeks discovered this was in October 2006 (over half a year ago) when they published "What Happened in Ohio", which may be now purchased on Amazon at the steeply discounted price of $7.18.

    A small problem, of course, was that a recount of the votes was done in Ohio as in several other areas and the result was always the same: Bush Won.

    Here is a link on Wikipedia of all the other bogus election fraud stories.

    It is kinda thorough; it includes about 150 referenced sources on the topic "2004 U.S. presidential election controversy and irregularities".

    Still it is indeed incomprehensible to believe that liberals would lie, since we see that libs like PP always tell the truth on this blog.

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  46. gay-dalf still trying to sell wikipedia as the final truth right after he changes it, like he has done before remember you gutless punk?

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  47. The Fart of Freedom is just queefing because he knows the end is near. He knows his reign of blood and horror is soon to come to an end. And with that end, comes judgement.

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  48. You know judgement. Its the stuff the Bush administration never utilized in their 7 year reign of terror.

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  49. I imagine Freedom Fart is really either Tom Delay, or one of Delay's podunks.

    Delay is busy throwing out test buoy's to see if he can set the playing field for the President to arrest Pelosi and Reid on treason charges, and that sounds like our little gasbag.

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  50. "Carl said...

    I found these on an old California sex offenders' web site:

    Member of NAMBLA

    (link to my picture)

    His Most Recent Victim
    (link to my boy's picture)

    3:39 PM"

    Very nice Carl.

    I guess we can now see what this blog is all about now.

    I posted those pictures at Lydia's request. Is this what you condone here Lydia?


    "Lydia Cornell said...

    Who is PP?

    By the way, that was a beautifully written article by a Carl Salonen, but that's not our Carl's name in case you're wondering.

    5:26 PM"


    Well lets see, he admitted it was his story, and seems awfully upset on this OTHER unknown Carl's behalf...

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  51. actually toilet paper boy channels Delay which is why he sounds so stupid all the time.

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  52. well dolty boy what goes around comes around doesn't it widdle dolly boy

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  53. suck on it nambla boy

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  54. You can dish it OUT but can't take it,

    Why is that the normal for the gutless reichwingnut gutless chicken hawks who troll this blog?

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  55. Bush will threaten to arrest Pelosi and Reid. He will try to stop the inevitable tide of judgement coming his way, but his actions will be the cause of his failure in that effort.

    He will be impeached. I will modify my original prediction now, to include resignation in the face of impeachment, which is the same thing in effect.

    But they're gone. You guys think you hate Pelosi now, wait till she's occupying the Oval office.

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  56. You want to find out whats really going on, listen to Bill Moyers.

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  57. But they're gone. You guys think you hate Pelosi now, wait till she's occupying the Oval office.

    And she returns to Israel and asks the idiot running that country why he has a forked tongue?

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  58. Bush will threaten to arrest Pelosi and Reid. He will try to stop the inevitable tide of judgement coming his way, but his actions will be the cause of his failure in that effort.

    He will be impeached. I will modify my original prediction now, to include resignation in the face of impeachment, which is the same thing in effect.

    But they're gone. You guys think you hate Pelosi now, wait till she's occupying the Oval office."


    HEAR THAT TROLL TEX.........resigning to avoid impeachment is the SAME thing..........put that in yer pipe and smoke it Troll Tex!

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  59. I WORFEUS said...
    I imagine Freedom Fart is really either Tom Delay, or one of Delay's podunks.

    Delay is busy throwing out test buoy's to see if he can set the playing field for the President to arrest Pelosi and Reid on treason charges, and that sounds like our little gasbag."

    What are you talking about??????

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  60. Damn. You really have a long memory Mike.

    Yea I remember that discussion.

    And you're right. Its like resigning a job to avoid being fired. Its the same thing, which is why they ask you that on job applications.

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  61. Mike said...


    What are you talking about??????


    Yesterday in Pittsburg Delay accussed Pelosi and Reid of teetering on Treason. He said he was serious when asked to clairfy.

    He's setting the tone for the President to try and arrest them. I don't think Bush will go down without a fight.

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  62. Fascist Fan.............your just a clown, a court jester for the Reich Wing........your gibberish and attempts at to derail with humor or poking fun at other bloggers dont even merit a response..........your an ignorant bor pops and your stupid links and attempts at distraction merit no more than a scroll by.

    Your Volksturm that last desperate cries of the Reich wing in its death throes..........America sees what you are now and it sickens and repulsises them at what YOU are and what YOU and your ilk have TRIED to turn your country into.

    Repug is a fitting name for you assclowns because you certainly are repunant!

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  63. I have a memory like an elephant Worf.........but not a yellow elephant (they seem to have selective memory....just ask Gonzalez)

    I on the other hand forget very little.

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  64. Jon Stewart was pretty funny tonight. He called Bush a "crazy muther f##$ker".

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  65. Now i'm not a computer expert like Troll Tex Or his Hackers but Why the hell would election results be redirected to another server particularly one controlled by the repugs............I cant think of ONE legitimate reason why that would be considered a reasonable and acceptable practice................maybe you can enlighten us Fascist Fan..............but hey if it is a reasonable and acceptable practice how about for the next two elections we rout the election results througn DNC servers........just to be fair and balanced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  66. Worfues his use of Bush to discredit Bush is a classic, too bad he is having St Johnny the Delusional on his show.

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  67. Stewart walked St Johnny into a corner, and St Johnny babbled

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  68. Stewart got St Johnny good with "their on America's side" and St Johnny had NADA as a comeback.

    St Johnny's pathetic attempt at filibustering is not working. Stewart only needs a line or two to slap the old foole down.

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  69. Does McCaine have Alzheimers like The Wingnuts Hero Reagan..........you think he wears a bib and diaper also?

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  70. I have a memory like an elephant...
    -milquetoast mike (mm)

    I believe it is more like you have an ass like an elephant.

    Given your atrocious spelling, it would appear your memory, like your mind in general, more resembles a prostitute's stocking.

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  71. McCaine is a delusional traitor and selklout to both paries it boggles the mind how this flipflopping halfwit idiot thinks he has a chance to win or ANY credibility for that matter.

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  72. Hey Foole how BAD do you think the repugs are going to lose in 2008............I think it may be one of the worst most onsided drubbings in over a Century!

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  73. Hey Foole Now i'm not a computer expert like Troll Tex Or his Hackers but Why the hell would election results be redirected to another server particularly one controlled by the repugs............I cant think of ONE legitimate reason why that would be considered a reasonable and acceptable practice................maybe you can enlighten us Fascist Fan..............but hey if it is a reasonable and acceptable practice how about for the next two elections we rout the election results througn DNC servers........just to be fair and balanced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  74. Why the hell would election results be redirected to another server particularly one controlled by the repugs............I cant think of ONE legitimate reason why that would be considered a reasonable and acceptable practice...
    -mm

    Think about it genius. If this were true it would be a far bigger story than Whitewater; it would be the permanent end of the Republican party. All the MSM newspapers, especially the New Yuk Times would be all over it. It wouldn't languish in some rabidly partisan backwater blog.

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  75. Interesting how you focus is ALWAYS minutai like spelling or the bloggers themselves INSTEAD of the REAL issues.

    Lydia obviously has some kind of soft spot for you...........I on the other hand see you as the slimy brainwashed Volksturm troll you are!

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  76. St Johnny is not doing much better here then he did during his stroll in the market

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  77. Stewart did pretty good.

    He could have been a little tougher, but he was pretty good.

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  78. Hey Gay-dalf answer the question son;

    Did you ask the US army for active duty son?

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  79. Freedom Fart said...

    Think about it genius. If this were true it would be a far bigger story than Whitewater; it would be the permanent end of the Republican party. All the MSM newspapers, especially the New Yuk Times would be all over it.


    Patience my ass.

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  80. Clif why would such a brave and fearless warrior.........a veritable John Rambo "NOT" ask for active duty?

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  81. Worfeus, Stewart destroyed the false mantra of lying reichwingers like toilet paper boy that criticism of Bush is attacking the troops,

    It was a LIE in 2003 and is a LIE today, Bush does NOT support the troops walter Reed, soldoers getting the shaft instead of good medical care after they get less than they deserve from the army medical boards proves that in spades

    QED

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  82. Why didnt you serve any active duty Foole?

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  83. Yes, he did pretty good Clif. Better than I expected. But I would have liked to see him pull a Tucker\Begala on him.

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  84. Sounds like you hid in plain sight just like GWB Foole!

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  85. Did you notice the crass and totally inappropriate comment McCain made Clif?

    He "JOKED" about having an "IED" for John Stewarts desk.

    I bet theres a lot of dismembered Vets at Walter Reed who didn't find that too amusing.

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  86. Worfeus what Stewart and Colbert do at night gets replay on news cycles in the day time, Stewart's comebacks will get quite a bit of attention tomorrow.

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  87. I caught it Worfeus but st Johnny's pathetic attempt at filibustering was not working either.

    Stewart know comedic timing St Johnny NOT SO MUCH.

    Stewart knows you let an old foole blabber, and time your responses for maximum effect.

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  88. Sounds like you hid in plain sight just like GWB Foole!
    -mm, real warrior

    The way libs smear their opponents with lies in here tells me all I need to know about how lib dirty tricks work in D.C. and across the country.

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  89. But whats worse, is what he said about disagreeing with the president being akin to not supporting the troops.

    That was stupid of him, to say that on the same day that we all saw Pat Tilmans brother condemning that very claim.

    Tilmans Brother RAILED on that notion, and here we have John McCain tauting it.

    McCain just ended his bid for the presidency.

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  90. Come on coward tell all us whether YOU asked for active duty son

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  91. Colbert is absolutely SHREDDING the Bush administration!!!!!!

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  92. Well after six years of total incompetence even Rich Little could shred them......

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  93. I WORFEUS said...
    But whats worse, is what he said about disagreeing with the president being akin to not supporting the troops.

    That was stupid of him, to say that on the same day that we all saw Pat Tilmans brother condemning that very claim.

    Tilmans Brother RAILED on that notion, and here we have John McCain tauting it.

    McCain just ended his bid for the presidency."

    Sorry Worf.......but I think that allready happened a long time ago............MCCaine was finished well over a month ago!

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  94. st Johnny seems to be on the destroy a campaign tour;

    his own

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  95. Come on Captain how bout telling us how in a time of war YOU didnt see any active duty................YOU seem aweful reluctant to answer a simple question Clif is asking...........is there SOMETHING your embarressed off Captain Courageous?

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  96. You wanna be a little troll and ALWAYS wrench the focus and discussion TO the bloggers and AWAY from the REAL issues then how bout we focus on YOU........you gutless brainwashed troll!

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  97. actually Mike, I bet he was really known as Captain Bedpan..........

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  98. After all, he does remind me of a cartoon character.

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  99. I WORFEUS said...
    Captian Crunch"

    Well, he'd have to switch the pointy dunce cap for a pirates hat............oh look they have a picture with the right hat in Dolts "blog"

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  100. Well the coyote off the road runner show comes to mind Worfeus, he is full of hair-brained stupid ideas which never work in reality.

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  101. The Foole must have run away.........he'll probably come back in about 3 or 4 hours after eveyone's gone to bed and act like he's master f the universe and delare victory and run away like a true repug.

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  102. ...is there SOMETHING your embarressed off..
    -mm

    Yes your spelling -- it's embarrassing ... for you.

    Gee let's see six words, three misspellings ... why that's a 50% error rate!

    Your spelling is even worse than GI Jane's and he is barely literate.

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  103. Well he COULD be wile Coyote since I allready named Rusty the Casino mogul Elmer Fudd since the delusional fool seems to think he owns a mansion and a yahct

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  104. Hey captain bedpan how's about an answer son, or is something your try NOT to think about the embarrassment and all asking to HIDE from service and combat too embarrassing today?

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  105. Were not here to talk about spelling or the bloggers personal lives Foole as much as YOU would prefer that..........take off the pointy dunce cap and open your eyes pops!

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  106. Hey Foole didnt Brad boot you out of Brad Blog for lying?

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  107. Yes brad did and the FOOLE lied about that here also.

    Like dolty boy lied about a supposed son......

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  108. Mikey, people aren't banned for lying. They're banned for telling the truth when someone else is attempting to spread lies.

    Brad and his conspiracy theorist buddy, winter patriot, were trying to spread the same lie as the topic of this thread.

    Funny how no one talks much about his goofball Diebold myth any more.

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  109. Gaydalf about the Question son.....

    You know the one YOU ignore like you ignore the truth.

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  110. and gaydalf we all read the blog Foole you were LYING son just like you LIED here about it, and you lied about Prescott Bush's aiding and abetting Adolph Hitler and the Nazi's before and during WW2

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  111. Foible Fan said...

    Gee let's see six words, three misspellings ... why that's a 50% error rate!



    Gee, thats pretty impressive there.

    You're a good little speller to be sure.

    We'll have to invite you to our annual spelling bee.

    Unfortunately however, in here you don't get extra points for punctuation, or owning a word processor.

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  112. Speaking of Diebold foole.......heres an article for you!

    here you go Tall Texan, here's a test as well as article to support the position enjoy:

    South Florida Sun Sentinel Sunday March 26, 2006 by Howaqrd Goodman
    hgoodman@sunsentinel.com (561)243-6638

    Vote Macines can't Go Wrong, Go Wrong, Go Wrong

    Its Simple in close elections, we need to be able to recount the votes. thats most obvious in Palm Beach County, where voters booted out the long serving supervisor of elections, Theresa lePorem in 2004 partly because she didnt think the new touch screen technology, brought in to replace those disasterous punch cards, needs paper backups.

    unfortunately the paper trail has gone cold under lePore's successor. Instead of leading the charge for change, Arthur Anderson is taking it slow.

    But Anderson's complacency isnt the only roadblock to a paper trail.

    Here's a potentially bigger hurdle: Florida has rewritten its election law to eliminate almost all manual recounts in touch screen voting.

    The reasoning is that the computerized touch screens are incapable of error. After all the machine wont let you overvote or undervote,-that is vote for too many candidates or unintentionally leave blanks, the major problems in past election challenges.

    Just one problem, the machines can be wrong. Ion Sancho, Leon County elections heaqd since 1988, is a self described maverick and stickler for making every vote count. In the shambles of 2000, voting here went virtually error free.

    Last year, sancho discovered the supposedly impossible- that Diebold election Systems touch screens and optical scanning machines had serious security flaws.

    And now he;s paying for his audacity. Possibly with his job. sancho challenged hackers to break into his voting machines four times. They always succeeded.

    in December for example, a Finnish security whiz named Harri Hursti manipulated a memory card that records votes in an optical scanning machine that uses a technology similar to a touch screen machine's.

    Sancho tested the results with a little in-house referendum. The question was: "Can the votes on this Diebold system be hacked using a memory card?"

    Most of the veight participants filled out their paper ballots "No"

    but guess what? The Machine that read the votes gave the victory to "yes"

    sancho raised alarms, florida Secretary of state Sue Cobb, a Jeb Bush appointee, ignored him. and then took away a $564,000 federal grant for disabled-accessible voting machinery.

    but in Calafornia, where Diebold machines are in wide use, top elections officials heard about Hursti's experiment and commissioned a study. Researchers in Berkely confirmed: Someone could easily gain access to the system, change votes and leave no trace.

    "the only way to detect and correct the problem "they reported last month, "would be by recount of the original paper ballots"

    Assuming there are paper ballots.

    Diebold now refuses to deal with Leon County. So do the other two manufacturers authorized by Florida, Election systems and Software and Sequoia Voting System (which makes Palm Beach County's equipment). Both cite business reasons.

    Sancho says he's been "blackballed". A Miami election-reform group agrees and wants Attorney General Charlie Christ to investigate.

    If this werent trouble enough, Cobb has threatened Sancho with legal action for missing a deadline to obtain accessible voting machines. Worst case, the state senate could remove him from office.

    "Excuse me?" Sancho argues. "You set up a monopoly by telling me I can only buy three machines? And now i'm a derelictbecause the manufacture's wont sell to me because i've exposed security flaws?

    "There's something wrong with this picture"

    Sure is.

    And how's this for Irony? After California verified Sancho's finding, Florida's Elections Supervisor issued a "technical advisory" on March 3 urging a tightning of security procedures for "all voting systems deployed in Florida"

    Not one word acknowledging Sancho or Leon County's role in flushing this problem out.

    Sancho is rare among Florida's 67 elections supervisors in challenging the industry's claims of inerrancy. "All of these systems are very complex" he notes, "One switch gets improperly pushed and you have what they call a glitch or a snafu or a hiccup.

    "Actually you have a problem thats depriving a citizen of his vote"

    By raising the right questions about the new voting technology, this official in a distant county has performed a crucial public servive for all of us.

    Sancho should be hailed as a hero. Instead, he is an object lesson in the perils of blowing the whistle.

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  113. And diebold was proly tied into the story of HOW Ohio was stolen stupid, and it did FAIL in Florida 13th congressional election in 206 idiot, only a gutless liar would still ignore the truth like YOU DO captain Bedpan.

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  114. Freedom Fart said...

    Funny how no one talks much about his goofball Diebold myth any more.


    Well we do, but come on,...its hard to keep up.

    With the virtual cornucopia of corruption, crimes and scandals its hard to get it all in.

    Don't worry, they'll answer for that too.

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  115. The Foole said "
    Funny how no one talks much about his goofball Diebold myth any more."


    Seems likes its being investigated AGAIN right NOW foole..........are you lying clowns EVER right about ANYTHING???????????

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  116. We've been over and over this GI Jane. I didn't go to 'Nam for the same reason you didn't:

    The war was over before I was commissioned.

    That's all I have to say. But please continue to spin your silly lies like a broken record. It just makes you sound a bit addled.

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  117. Whats funny is the knucklehead still thinks he has something to be smug about Mike.

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  118. Yo gutless you didn't answer the question son I didn't go to Vietnam because I was TOO young to go, I didn't turn 18 until 1975 NOT 1969 like you did son

    You because you were Old enough son but CHOSE to hide out in ROTC to dodge the draft and service like you hero Georgie did gutless coward.

    Damn your a gutless lying coward ain't you BOY?

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  119. How about the question YOU were asked gutless coward, did you ASK to serve on active duty or NOT son?

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  120. Freedom Fart said...
    We've been over and over this GI Jane. I didn't go to 'Nam for the same reason you didn't:

    The war was over before I was commissioned.


    Yea..... good timing, huh?

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  121. Come on boy why is this so hard for you to fess up to?

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  122. But what about now? You're ex military. You were an officer. They've been taking officers into their 60's.

    Why not jump in with the boys for the big push? Is that a peace sign on your helmet? We are here to free the Iraqi people, because inside every Iraqi, is an American,... trying to get out.

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  123. ...we all read the blog Foole you were LYING son...
    -GI Jane

    That's why they banned me GI, they were terrified of my lies. Bwahahahaha

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  124. Marcus Byrne fought your war for you. Now he's back in Germany, fighting AGAINST your war.

    If you want to keep up, you have to at least be as dedicate to the war as critics like Marcus are.

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  125. see son I didn't ask why you chose NOT to go to Vietnam but chose to attend college instead, I asked if you asked to serve on active duty and asked the army for the chance when you graduated from your hiding in ROTC instead of serving in Vietnam son when I was only 15 years old boy,see Vietnam ended in 1975 April and I didn't turn 18 until later that summer while I was in training, I joined the army when I was still 17......

    Nice to see you LIE about this also son, I didn't go to Vietnam because legally I was too young to go, YOU were old enough and CHOSE not to go.

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  126. Captain Bedpan said;

    That's why they banned me GI, they were terrified of my lies.

    No stupid just tired of your tired old lies and your sorry idiotic comments to hide your ignorance of the reality based world.

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  127. Yea but he could sign up now Clif.

    If he really IS a Captain, they'd take him now.

    No way he's too old.

    He seems to find the mouth to support the war.

    I wonder when he's gonna find the will.

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  128. Or are you just good at waving little plastic flags at the airport to greet the returning troops?

    Something tells me Freedom Fart was probably one of those idiots who started a flag selling business after 911.

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  129. He's like Dickhead Cheney.

    The little brute.

    As Tillmans brother pointed out Dick Cheney never served a day in uniform .

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  130. well Captain Bedpan did two days a month playing in uniform, then ran home crying how hard it was sitting in the hospital administration office wearing fatigues instead of his gay-dalf get up.....

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  131. I'll bet if captain bedpan got back in they would call him frank burns to his face.

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  132. Whatever respect I had for McCain I lost tonight.

    He actually had the nerve to suggest that people who are against the war, like Pat Tillman, are surrendering to Al Quaida.

    Last time I checked, leaving the battlefield that is NOT on your soil, with your troops, weapons and colors intact, and on your OWN timetable, is NOT surrendering.

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  133. Freedom Fan said...
    Mikey, people aren't banned for lying. They're banned for telling the truth when someone else is attempting to spread lies.

    Brad and his conspiracy theorist buddy, winter patriot, were trying to spread the same lie as the topic of this thread.

    Funny how no one talks much about his goofball Diebold myth any more."

    Come on Foole lets here YOUR version of the truth............interesting there is an investigation into this, there have been confirmed reports of both election fraud and Diebold machines that can EASILY be hacked and compromised in MANY national newspapers and yet...............some Foole in a blog wearing a pointy dunce cap claims to have ALL the evidence to debunk all thse loony conspiracy theories...........yet he has NOTHING to say.

    How come Carl Rove hasnt hired you genius to just make all this election fraud and Diebold vulnerability to hacking just go away...........how come Rove hasnt unleashed you to dazzle us with your brilliance Foole???????????


    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

    You dont wear a pointy dunce cap for nothing pops!!!!!!!

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  134. McCain was so ugly tonight.

    He sickened me.

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  135. Stewart of course pointed out that we're not going to listen now to the same idiots who got us into this mess.

    You hear that Freedom Fake?

    Idiots like you who got everything wrong going in, are the last ones who are going to have a voice in what happens next.

    You suck.

    You're a loser.

    We don't listen to losers.

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  136. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER

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  137. Hey, if we're lucky guys, maybe the loooooooooooser will tell us how they're going to turn this lemon into lemonade.

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  138. Cause they've got "high hopes".

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  139. oooops there goes another rubbertree plant

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  140. Well, I'm going to leave the blog now, and get some sleep.


    According to FF, I'm "surrendering".

    :|

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  141. Today is Administrative Professionals Day.

    Widdle Wizard, is your boss taking you to lunch? Buying you flowers? taking you to dinner?

    Sleeping with you?

    Or is he still pissed over that whole late urinal cake sales report?

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  142. Freedom Fan said...
    We've been over and over this GI Jane. I didn't go to 'Nam for the same reason you didn't:


    Don't insult a real soldier by comparing yourself to him, Widdle Wizard.

    Nice dunce cap, by the way. Santy Claus get that fer ya?

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  143. Mike said...
    Hey Foole didnt Brad boot you out of Brad Blog for lying?


    I thought it was a form of euthanasia?

    He was getting killed, so they took mercy on him.

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  144. Voltron said...
    I posted those pictures at Lydia's request. Is this what you condone here Lydia?


    It does add a delicious bit of irony, don't it, Widdle Twucker?

    But what is it Widdle Cowboy always says?

    Oh. Yes. If you don't want your personal info revealed, don't put it on the net!

    You really should have blurred your address and driver's license number, too.

    BIG SHMILE! BIG SHMILE!

    Now...did you want to discuss terms of your surrender?

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  145. Ken Blackwell is the scum of the earth. He always has been. He's never hesitated to do whatever benefits his position, and there's been over 30 years of it.

    Obviously, the genius miscalculated badly in 2004. It cost him plenty in 2006-but Kenny showed us all what he's made of when he implied Governor Strickland is a child molester during the campaign.

    If there is a Hell of fire and brimstone, Kenny surely has a place waiting for him at the bottom of the pit.

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  146. Stewart of course pointed out that we're not going to listen now to the same idiots who got us into this mess.

    You hear that Freedom Fake?

    Idiots like you who got everything wrong going in, are the last ones who are going to have a voice in what happens next.

    You suck.

    You're a loser.

    We don't listen to losers.


    fascism fanny only hears what Hannity has to say. And since I got kicked off Hannity's site 8 times, I'm afraid I can't deliver the message this time.

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  147. Rog,

    I try to stay out of slums. They give me allergies.

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  148. Rog,

    I try to stay out of slums. They give me allergies.


    I take the argument to them, when permitted. Unlike liberals, however, the 'cons seldom permit the argument to be taken to them.

    I was deleted from Free Republic once in the middle of posting a response.

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  149. Precisely why I don't go to the slums. Widdle Wizard and his troupe of Buttkazzoers think we're harsh. They don't know from nuthin'.

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  150. I WORFEUS said...
    lol

    I surrender.


    Take comfort, iWorf. You were the last to leave the field!

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  151. Freedom Fan said...
    That's why they banned me GI, they were terrified of my lies.


    Understandable. You do it so badly and so often, they probably lost money on a waste of bandwidth like you...

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  152. When I see Old Glory wave, or see the Statue of Liberty, or hear the Star-Spangled Banner I feel a swelling in my chest and a lump in my throat. I feel an overwhelming sense of awe and love. I feel humility toward those whose sacrifice for liberty I can never possibly repay. I feel a profound sense of continuity with my departed father and others of the finest generation who served with honor in World War II. Because I fully grasp the horrors of war, I realize how courageous my ancestors truly must have been. I revere those who protected liberty from tyrants over the course of more than two centuries, as well as our brave soldiers who currently serve in the Middle East . (emphasis added)

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    Hey, Clif, you know who posted this piece of snark?

    Cap'n Bedpan!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    What a clincally depraved person this shithead is....

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  154. I revere those who protected liberty from tyrants over the course of more than two centuries, as well as our brave soldiers who currently serve in the Middle East

    I had to pull that quote out for special treatment...

    Widdle Wizzer, why do you hate Clif so, then? Revere means you should be kneeling before him, worshipping him and honoring his service to this great nation, Cap'n Bedpan!

    Maybe even cleaning his...gun....for him!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  155. I know this is off subject but I had no idea until this morning on the way in to work that Russian President Boris Yeltsin had passed away on Monday!

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  156. RP,

    It was announced in the middle of the day and was quickly swept off the pages by the Reid/Bush conflagrations over Iraq funding.

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  157. Gaydalf since the RICH never pay one cent of payroll SS taxes above 96,000 on their millions or billions they are getting less than 1% tax where the lower middle classes get 13% plus their non tax haven income taxes, unlike the rich who use the reichwing a$$wipes like Grover Norquist and Bernt Bozell (and of course YOU) to LIE for them
    -GI Jane

    Actually, the cap for 2007 is $97,500, and this floor on SS taxes rises every year, so higher income folks pay an ever larger share of their income into the Social Security ponzi scheme, for which they get no increased benefit. In addition, there is no cap for the Medicare portion, so everyone pays 2.9% on all their "billions" of earnings.

    However, their SS retirement benefits are capped so paying more doesn't help them one bit at retirement time. In addition 80% of their SS benefits are subject to re-taxation since contributions are paid in after tax.

    Social Security was designed as an income supplement for retirement. It was never intended as a transfer payment from the "rich" to the "poor", but that is what it has largely become.

    Therefore Social Security taxes properly are not included in a discussion of who pays federal income tax, and neither are state income taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, excise taxes, ad nauseum.

    So the fact remains that according to the IRS, our federal income tax is highly progressive with the top 5% of income earners paying over 57% of federal income taxes in 2004. Plus the effective tax rate on the top 1% of earners rose over 2% from 2003 to 2004. Meanwhile the Earned Income Credit, with a negative tax rate expanded under George Bush increased by 6%, providing millions of low income taxpayers with a refund based upon income they never earned. Also see: WSJ

    Brain-dead malcontents like you and carl-the-marxist, who want to exchange the remarkable ubiquitous prosperity generated by our free enterprise incentives with the decades of egalitarian squalor and suffering under socialist and communist regimes, will be marginalized and simply forgotten in the dustbin of history.

    The Wall Street Journal (and me) are telling truth. It is the libs like you who are lying to promote your sick agenda of class envy and victimhood for political purposes.

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  158. "Carl said...

    Voltron said...
    I posted those pictures at Lydia's request. Is this what you condone here Lydia?



    It does add a delicious bit of irony, don't it, Widdle Twucker?

    But what is it Widdle Cowboy always says?

    Oh. Yes. If you don't want your personal info revealed, don't put it on the net!

    You really should have blurred your address and driver's license number, too.

    BIG SHMILE! BIG SHMILE!

    Now...did you want to discuss terms of your surrender?

    5:50 AM"




    Carl,

    That information is OVER 20 years old.

    The primary address is a transient hotel in downtown LA.
    The secondary one is my brothers old house in Ontario.

    My brothers house is no longer there, and I don't know whether the hotel is or not.

    Do what you will with the info.
    You're a low life scum bag, I expect little from you anyway.

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  159. "Carl said...

    Oh? Was that his son?

    He looks so....black. Was it the maid or the cook at the plantation?

    4:03 PM"



    Um yeah, right...

    Tell me Carl, WHO'S the racist again?

    Why don't you tell us about that "white power" group you belonged to?

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  160. Voltron said...
    That information is OVER 20 years old.


    Well, then, what are you so upset about!?

    I mean, it's not like I'd want to track you down or anything...but I could ;-)

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  161. Voltron said...
    Why don't you tell us about that "white power" group you belonged to?


    Oh, you have me sadly mistaken. I signed a petition for free speech for a group that wanted its own radio station or Usenet group, I don't recall which off the top of my head.

    See, unlike assholes like you, I believe in free speech AND I believe in corralling haters in one place.

    It's easier to keep track of them.

    But tell me...did you ever find your "comment"? *winkwink*

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  162. Now....let's talk about the terms of your surrender.

    I only posted what I wanted you jerkoffs to see.

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  163. Freedom Fan said...
    In addition, there is no cap for the Medicare portion, so everyone pays 2.9% on all their "billions" of earnings.


    Lie.

    Medicare taxes are only paid on wage income, shithead. The rich have a smaller proportion of wage income than any other class, numbskull. And their other incomes are likely subject to a much lower tax rate.

    I really do wish you'd learn a fact before you come out here, Widdle Wizard.

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  164. The truth about income taxes:

    The Big Picture- Tax Fairness


    Tax Breaks for Millionaires?
    - OR -
    Education, Health Care and Security?

    Over the past three years two huge tax breaks have dramatically cut our budget, putting more money into the pockets of the nation’s wealthiest while simultaneously taking tax dollars away from our schools, health care programs and national security. If these tax breaks become permanent middle- and low-income taxpayers will bear the brunt of the $2.2 trillion cost, in the form of reduced services or higher taxes.i


    Under the new tax laws:

     Families earning an average of $938,000 receive an average tax break of $51,627, while workers making $35,000 receive an average tax break of $827.ii
     The nation's wealthiest one percent have had their federal tax rate cut twice as much as the middle 20 percent of taxpayers.iii
     Corporate taxes are at their lowest levels since the 1930’s—corporations have been given $177 billion in tax breaks, plus offshore tax shelters to avoid taxation.iv
     Fifty billion dollars of revenue are lost each year due to widening loopholes and massive corporate tax breaks.v
     The tax burden shifts away from millionaires and onto families making less than $75,000 a year.vi


    New proposals, including making the tax breaks permanent could:

     Provide the top one percent of Americans with 50 percent of the benefits.vii
     Give an average $144,000 tax break to Millionaires.viii
     Cost the United States $64 billion in revenue in the first year alone just to give money back to two percent of wealthy Americans who currently pay an estate tax. It will cost nearly $1 trillion over the following decade.ix
     Cost average taxpayers more—in higher costs for services, among other costs—than the tax cuts they’d receive.x

    Which is more important—tax breaks for the wealthy or investments in our future?

    Tax breaks for the wealthy or…

    Our schools?
     The No Child Left Behind Act is an unfunded mandate—under-funded by $9 billion.xi

    Tax breaks for the wealthy or…

    Health Care?
     Two in five children without health insurance.xii
     Proposed cuts to the state children’s health insurance program that are so deep that nine states will simply run out of SCHIP funds.xiii
     $41 billion in lost revenue from an unpopular Medicare law that provides tax shelters for wealthy and healthy Americans, while doing virtually nothing to help the uninsured.xiv
     A budget that falls $2.6 billion short of what experts agree is needed to fully meet the medical needs of America’s veterans.xv

    Tax breaks for the wealthy or…

    Economic Security?
     More than 2.5 million promised jobs nowhere to be found.xvi
     Longest sustained job slump since the great depression.xvii
     New jobs that pay less and offer fewer benefits: industries experiencing job loss insure 68 percent of their workers, while only 55 percent of workers in industries with job growth are covered.xviii
     Devastated state economies: $110 billion in reduced revenue, and only $20 billion in fiscal relief.xix

    Tax breaks for the wealthy or…

    National Security?
     Two-thirds of all fire-departments understaffed.xx
     Proposed 30 percent cut in funding for first responders.xxi
     Budget cuts to programs that research and support alternative forms of energy so America can be less dependant on foreign oil.xxii

    Citations

    iCenter on Budget and Policy Priorities. “The President’s Proposal to Make Tax Cuts Permanent.” January 30, 2004.
    iiCitizens for Tax Justice. "Details on the Bush Tax Cuts So Far (as of Fall 2003)." Fall 2003.
    iiiCongressional Budget Office. "Effective Federal Tax Rates under Current Law, 2001 to 2014." August 2004.
    ivCitizens for Tax Justice. “More Corporate Tax Shelters on the Way?” October 14, 2003.
    vSee endnote iii.
    viCongressional Budget Office. “Effective Federal Tax Rates under Current Law, 2001 to 2014.” August 2004.
    viiSee endnote ii.
    viiiGale, William G., and Peter R. Orszag. “Should the President’s Tax Cuts be Made Permanent?” March 8, 2004.
    ixCenter for Budget and Policy Priorities. “Permanent Repeal of the Estate Tax Would be Costly, Yet Would Benefit Only a Few, Very Large Estates.” June 17,2003.
    xCenter on Budget and Policy Priorities. “The President’s Proposal to Make Tax Cuts Permanent.” January 30, 2004.
    xiNational Education Association. “Statement by National Education Association (NEA) President Reg Weaver on President's Fiscal Year '05 Budget.” February 2,2004.
    xiiFamilies USA. “One in Three: Non-Elderly Americans Without Health Insurance, 2002-2003.” June 2004.
    xiiiFamilies USA. “The Bush Administration’s Fiscal Year 2005 Budget: Analysis of Key Health Care Provisions.” February 4, 2004.
    xivSee endnote xiii.
    xvVeterans of Foreign Wars of the United States. “VFW Terms President’s VA Budget Proposal Harmful to Veterans. VFW Appeals to Congress for Relief.” February 2, 2004.
    xviEconomic Policy Institute, JobWatch. “Are the 2003 Bush Tax Cuts Creating Jobs?” August 2004.
    xviiEconomic Policy Institute. “Job Watch.” August 6, 2004.
    xviiiEconomic Policy Institute, Economic Snapshot. “Jobs Shift Away from Industries that Provide Health Insurance.” May 12, 2004.
    xixCenter on Budget and Policy Priorities. “Federal Policies Worsening State Fiscal Problems.” May 12, 2004.
    xxSchaitberger, Harold. Blueprint Magazine. “Fire Fighters Gird for a Long War.” July 29, 2002.
    xxiMeeks, Brock N. MSNBC. “DHS Budget Criticized for Short-Changing First Responders.” Feb. 9, 2004.
    xxiiFriends of the Earth. “The Bush Administration’s FY2005 Budget for the Environment: Putting Our Future at Risk.” Feb. 4, 2004.

    Continued...

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  165. More truth about income taxes:

    Corporate Tax Breaks

    Recklessly ignoring growing needs, ballooning deficits, and falling revenues, Congress is considering more unpaid-for tax cuts, this time for corporations. Facing the threat of $4 billion in trade sanctions from the European Union, Congress must repeal a tax subsidy for U.S. exporters that the World Trade Organization has ruled in violation of international trade agreements. Instead of crafting a measured, deficit-neutral response, however, some legislators have used this as an opportunity to create new tax breaks for corporations. These new tax breaks are not fully offset by the repeal of the export subsidy and thus would further enlarge the already massive federal deficit.

    Representative Bill Thomas (R-22nd, CA), Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, has proposed a bill, H.R. 2896, that would grant corporations new tax breaks totaling $128 billion over the next decade. The Thomas proposal only offsets a portion of these new tax cuts, bringing the official ten-year price tag to $60 billion. In reality, however, the cost of these tax cuts will be far greater over the long term. The Thomas tax cut package uses budget gimmicks – like phasing in the tax cuts over the next decade and artificially scheduling some provisions to expire – to mask the true cost of the bill. After 2013, the last year included in official estimates of the bill’s cost, the tax breaks in H.R. 2896 will likely cost the federal government more than $120 billion per decade.1

    Moreover, H.R. 2896 could result in even more loss of revenue, as the bill could create additional opportunities for corporations to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. By weakening current anti-abuse laws, the Thomas tax bill could make it easier for U.S. corporations to shelter their profits abroad. Also, a provision offering a temporary tax reduction for corporations that repatriate overseas profits could potentially encourage more overseas tax sheltering.2

    With the rising costs of war in Iraq and its aftermath, with an aging population about to strain Social Security and Medicare resources, and with mounting, unmet needs for education, healthcare, homeland security, and many other services, America simply cannot afford more unpaid-for tax cuts. Yet, once again, lawmakers have proposed a bill that undermines our ability to fund critical programs and burdens future generations with additional debt in order to enact unwarranted tax breaks.

    U.S. corporations already enjoy a relatively low tax burden: the average effective corporate tax rate has declined steadily since the 1950’s3, and U.S. corporations have a smaller tax burden than three-quarters of the countries in the Organization of Econonic Cooperation and Development.4 Moreover, U.S. corporate income tax revenues have reached historical lows. In 2003, corporate income tax revenues represented only 1.2 percent of the Gross Domestic Product and only 7.4 percent of all federal tax receipts, the lowest levels since the 1930’s, except for 1983.5

    Despite these historical lows, however, lawmakers have sought to further reduce corporate taxes at the expense of future financial security and our ability to fund critical national priorities. With already overwhelming deficits projected to exceed $500 billion in 2004 and to total $5 trillion over the next ten years6, we cannot afford additional unpaid-for tax cuts that will add to the burdensome national debt that future generations will have to repay and crowd out crucial services, like education, health care, Social Security, and homeland security.


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    1Joel Friedman, "Gimmicks Mask True Cost of Revised Thomas Corporate Tax-Cut Package," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. 27 October 2003.
    2Joel Friedman, "The Decline of Corporate Income Tax Revenues," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. 24 October 2003.
    3Id.
    4Based on data from 2000. Joel Friedman, "The Decline of Corporate Income Tax Revenues," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. 24 October 2003.
    5"Corporate Tax Revenues at Historic Lows Even Before Costly New Tax Breaks," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. 24 October 2003.
    6"Mid-term and long-term Deficit Projections," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, Committee for Economic Development, and Concord Coalition. 29 September 2003.

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  166. Now, Widdle Wizard...refute each and every point in those posts.

    Go ahead...I'm waiting...

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  167. Like Clarence Thomas, he's what would have been termed a "house n*gra" back in the Old South.
    -carl

    Volt, here in a candid moment, carl uses the "N" word to demonstrate that racism is okay, as long as it is directed at Conservatives. This is just one of several examples.

    Thus liberals like carl routinely project their own racism, using it as a weapon against Conservatives. The charge of "racism" against conservatives is a classic example of the Goebbels' "Big Lie" technique*. It is also interesting that he is fond of speaking with a nazi accent.

    carl has an ugly racist toad squirming where most folks have a heart. For him, no vicious lie is too vile to use to smear an opponent. No family member or loved one is off limits. He doesn't bother wrapping his fetid insults in articulate wit or humor.

    He is not bounded by any sense of good taste, decency nor honesty when it comes to smearing Conservatives.

    carl also fancies himself a hero for the common man, but obviously has nothing but digust for folks like maids, cooks and gardeners who, unlike carl, do hard honest work.

    That carl is merely a typical liberal can be demonstrated on this blog, since obviously no liberal has any sense of shame in being associated with carl. They merely cheer him on as they further sully their own tattered reputations.

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  168. And once you're done with those, answer these:

    Distribution of the 2001-04 Tax Cuts

    In May 2001, Congress passed the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act (EGTRRA), sweeping legislation that reduced individual income tax rates; gradually reduced and eliminated the estate tax; doubled the child tax credit and made it partially refundable; reduced marriage penalties (and increased marriage bonuses); enhanced the child and dependent care credit; increased contribution limits on tax-deferred retirement savings vehicles, such as IRAs and 401(k)s; expanded credits and deductions for education-related expenses; and temporarily increased the alternative minimum tax (AMT) exemption. To keep the official 10-year cost estimate of the legislation to $1.35 trillion, Congress phased in many provisions over several years and allowed the entire bill to "sunset," or expire, at the end of 2010.

    Two years later, Congress passed the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act (JGTRRA), which accelerated the individual tax rate reductions in EGTRRA that were not scheduled to take place until 2006. It also sped up other major provisions in EGTRRA, such as the increased child credit and some marriage-penalty relief provisions. In addition, the legislation reduced the tax rate through 2008 on most long-term capital gains and applied the capital gains rates to dividends, which had previously been treated as ordinary income. Again, to keep the official 10-year cost of the bill to $350 billion, the legislation sunsets by 2010.

    The Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004 (WFTRA) extended temporarily some of the provisions in EGTRRA and JGTRRA, such as the increased child credit, the new 10-percent bracket, some of the marriage-penalty relief provisions, and an increase in the AMT exemption. WFTRA accelerated an increase in the partial refundability of the child tax credit. The official 10-year cost of the bill is $146 billion.

    The tax cuts are regressive. In 2005, EGTRRA, JGTRRA, and WFTRA tax cuts averaged 2.6 percent of after-tax income ($742) for those in the middle quintile of the income distribution. Those in the top 1 percent received an average tax cut of 4.6 percent of after-tax income ($34,948). The top one-tenth of 1 percent-taxpayers with income greater than $1.75 million-received an average tax cut of 5.6 percent of after-tax income ($185,533).
    The tax cuts will become even more regressive. This occurs because some of the provisions that primarily benefit upper-income families-such as repeal of the estate tax-phase in gradually. If the tax cuts are made permanent and AMT relief is extended, then in 2011 the top one-tenth of 1 percent of income earners will receive an average tax cut of 7.5 percent of after-tax income ($307,135), and the top 1 percent will receive an average cut equal to 6.5 percent of after-tax income ($61,442). Those in the middle of the income distribution will receive an average cut of 2.3 percent ($836).
    Making the tax cuts permanent will shift the burden of the federal tax system onto middle-income taxpayers. In 2011, if the tax cuts are made permanent and there is an AMT fix (see the discussion on page 5), taxpayers in the top 1 percent of the income distribution would receive 28.2 percent of the total benefits although they pay only 24.7 percent of all federal taxes. As a result, their share of the overall federal tax burden would fall by 0.5 percentage points. By contrast, the share of the overall federal tax burden paid by households in the middle of the income spectrum would rise by 0.1 percentage points; they would receive only 7.7 percent of the tax cut benefits even though they pay 8.2 percent of all federal taxes.
    Tax cuts do not represent a free lunch. Virtually all economists agree that at some point, tax cuts must be paid for with either spending reductions or other tax increases. Assuming they are either financed with spending cuts or a combination of reduced spending and progressive tax increases, more than 70 percent of households will be net losers; only those in the top income quintile will, on average, benefit.
    Select Sources:

    Tax Policy Center Table T05-0067. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxModel/tmdb/Content/PDF/T05-0067.pdf

    Tax Policy Center Table T06-0030. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxModel/tmdb/Content/PDF/T06-0030.pdf

    Tax Policy Center Table T05-0064. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxModel/tmdb/Content/PDF/T05-0064.pdf

    Tax Policy Center Table T05-0063. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxModel/tmdb/Content/PDF/T05-0063.pdf

    Distribution of the 2006 Tax Cuts

    In May 2006, Congress passed the Tax Increase Prevention Reconciliation Act of 2005 (TIPRA), which extended through the end of 2010 the reduced rates on capital gains and dividends originally enacted by JGTRRA; increased the AMT exemption level but only for 2006; eliminated the income limitation on converting traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs beginning in 2010, effectively doing away with the income cap for Roth IRA contributions; and extended the increased expensing allowance for businesses.

    Later in 2006, Congress passed the Pension Protection Act of 2006 (PPA), the first legislation that makes some EGTRRA provisions permanent. These include elements affecting pensions, IRAs, and the saver's credit, which provides a government match for contributions by lower- and moderate-income taxpayers to tax-deferred savings vehicles.

    TIPRA is highly regressive. The top one-tenth of 1 percent of income earners will receive an average tax cut of $83,966, equivalent to 2.4 percent of after-tax income. Taxpayers in the middle of the income distribution will, on average, receive $20, or less than one-tenth of 1 percent of after-tax income.
    TIPRA shifts the tax burden away from upper-income earners. Taxpayers in the top fifth of the income distribution receive 93.6 percent of the benefits of this legislation although they pay only 72.1 percent of federal taxes. As a result, their share of the overall federal tax burden falls by 0.8 percentage points. Those in the middle of the income spectrum receive 0.9 percent of the benefits.
    The Roth conversion provision in TIPRA is a stealth budget-buster. The official Joint Committee on Taxation cost estimate shows the Roth conversion proposal generating a $6.4 billion revenue gain over the next 10 years. In fact, the provision begins losing revenue annually in 2014-in present value terms, the net loss in federal revenue through 2049 is more than $14 billion.
    PPA is roughly distributionally neutral. Because of the saver's credit provisions, lower- and moderate-income taxpayers receive about the same average increase in after-tax income as those in higher-income brackets, between 0.1 and 0.2 percent.
    Select Sources:

    Tax Policy Center Table T06-0086. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxModel/tmdb/Content/PDF/T06-0086.pdf

    Tax Policy Center Table T06-0087. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxModel/tmdb/Content/PDF/T06-0087.pdf

    Burman, Leonard E. 2006. "Roth Conversions as Revenue Raisers: Smoke and Mirrors." Tax Notes (May 22). http://www.urban.org/url.cfm?ID=1000990

    Gale, William G., J. Mark Iwry, and Peter R. Orszag. 2005. "Making the Tax System Work for Low-Income Savers: The Saver's Credit." Tax Policy Issues and Options Number 13. Washington DC: The Urban Institute. http://www.urban.org/url.cfm?ID=311196

    Tax Policy Center Table T06-0241. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxModel/tmdb/Content/PDF/T06-0241.pdf

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  169. Mudhole stomped in Widdle Wizard?

    Check.

    Clif, make sure you keep those pages bookmarked. I suspect Widdle Wizard is going to run this girly-man argument of his past us again...until he's been destroyed, of course.

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  170. And you'll note, Widdle Wizard, not one Wikipedia source.

    Each and every one of those is bona fide, researchable, factual sources.

    Not like your hit-and-run editing.

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  171. Freedom Fan said...
    Like Clarence Thomas, he's what would have been termed a "house n*gra" back in the Old South.
    -carl

    Volt, here in a candid moment, carl uses the "N" word to demonstrate that racism is okay, as long as it is directed by Conservatives.
    (post edited for accuracy)

    Hey, MASTER RACIST, if the truth hurts, too bad! You guys said it, so deal with your legacy!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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  172. Widdle Wizard, you shouldn't be wasting time trying to paint me, a bleeding heart liberal, as a racist.

    You have homework to do. I challenge your intelliect and knowledge.

    If you choose to ignore it, Cap'n Bedpan, I can take other tactics.

    Just so long as you know, it's going to get nasty in here again. You won't be able to stand the heat...

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  173. Granted, challenging your intellect is like challenging a kid brother to eat a frog for a buck, but I digress...

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  174. Holy crap!

    Hey, Lydia! Mike! Clif!

    I just got a response to my email to Thu!

    He's doing well. Apparently, he went overseas...I'll find out where...and he's been lurking from time to time, but basically got bored when he ran Widdle Wizard off this blog.

    I'll see if I can get him to come back now that, you know, Widdle Wizard had a set surgically implanted.

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  175. Oh dear! Looks like Condo-sleasa will be subpoena'd and Monica Goodling will rat out Gonzo!

    "By 21-10, the House oversight committee voted to issue a subpoena to Rice to compel her story on the Bush administration’s claim, now discredited, that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa.

    Moments earlier in the committee chamber next door, the House Judiciary Committee voted 32-6 to grant immunity to Monica Goodling, Gonzales’ White House liaison, for her testimony on why the administration fired eight federal prosecutors. The panel also unanimously approved _ but did not issue _ a subpoena to compel her to appear."

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  176. Widdle Wizard, you shouldn't be wasting time trying to paint me, a bleeding heart liberal, as a racist.

    You have homework to do. I challenge your intelliect and knowledge.

    -cas

    Of course, libs couldn't possibly be racists ... could they? I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that it's Conservatives who are racists, right? So kkkarl gets to "pretend" to be a racist because it's what we Conservatives "want to hear". Does anyone with a brain believe this crock?

    For the truth, just read what carl writes, and what other libs applaud. Then watch as he attempts to smear Conservatives with his own bigotry. He would have us believe his nazi accent is satire, but given his other comments, it is apparent that it is actually hero worship.

    BTW kkkarl, if you want to challenge my "intellect", you could start by learning how to spell it, genius.

    Your feeble attempts, to bury my research about the steep progressivity of the U.S. tax system, will fail.

    No one is interested in your scroll-by argumentum-ad-nauseum gibberish from rabidly lib sites.

    If you want to learn how to effectively rebut an argument, you might study what GI Jane does, when he's not posting spam like you.

    My source is the IRS itself, and it is there for anyone genuinely seeking the truth:

    The "rich", most productive Americans pay almost all the federal income taxes.

    Free enterprise works, and it generates vast amounts of wealth for everyone, while your marxist buddies like castro and mao enslaved their people in chains and squalor.

    No one would want to be you, and certainly no real American will follow you anywhere, you left wing loser.

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  177. Freedom Fan said...
    Your feeble attempts, to bury my research about the steep progressivity of the U.S. tax system, will fail.


    Is that what you call it, Widdle Wizard? "Research"?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

    Much like Clifford Irving "researched" Hitler's diary.

    How disappointed you must have been when those turned out to be phony...

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  178. I've clobbered your attempts to lie about the "income" tax, Widdle Wizard.

    Now rebut my rebuttal, point by point, or go home with your tail between your legs.

    Nice dunce cap, by the way...

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  179. Oh, and while you're at it...what race is Lenny Kravitz? Cmon, MASTER RACIST, sure YOU of all people MUST know!

    BWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Dumber'n a sack of hammers, this one.

    Nice dunce cap, by the way...

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  181. I'll take your indifference to rebut the precise critique of your asinine and wrong-headed position on the income tax as an admission of defeat, Widdle Wizard.

    I win. Again.

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  182. And like clockwork, the kindergarten brigade comes out to rescue their younger sisters...

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  183. Hey Punk listen your assine spam will be deleted as soon as I address a few points.

    And like I said the other day if you contine to spit on the rules of this blog you will no longer have a voice and your bile will disapear like farts in the wind.

    pretty sad the trolls need to come in here and protect their own namely the Foole, Troll Tex and Dolt because they cant hang and are scared by facts and truth.

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  184. Shut up Goo Goo before I shut you up!

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  185. Oh dear....did I turn his widdle stalking expedition on me around on his pathetic litle ass and knock him back into his drug-addled psychosis?

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  186. Of course, libs couldn't possibly be racists ... could they? I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that it's Conservatives who are racists, right? So kkkarl gets to "pretend" to be a racist because it's what we Conservatives "want to hear". Does anyone with a brain believe this crock?

    For the truth, just read what carl writes, and what other libs applaud. Then watch as he attempts to smear Conservatives with his own bigotry. He would have us believe his nazi accent is satire, but given his other comments, it is apparent that it is actually hero worship.

    BTW kkkarl, if you want to challenge my "intellect", you could start by learning how to spell it, genius.

    Your feeble attempts, to bury my research about the steep progressivity of the U.S. tax system, will fail.

    No one is interested in your scroll-by argumentum-ad-nauseum gibberish from rabidly lib sites.

    If you want to learn how to effectively rebut an argument, you might study what GI Jane does, when he's not posting spam like you.

    My source is the IRS itself, and it is there for anyone genuinely seeking the truth:

    The "rich", most productive Americans pay almost all the federal income taxes."

    Hey Foole is that kinda like Rush gets to "PRETEND" to be a rascist because he CLAIMS a democrat said it first thats why he smears Obama as a "magic negro" and says it 27 times and makes a up a demeaning song to smear him ..........because he hates rascism and bigottry.....You dont wear a dunce cap for nothing Foole.

    Watch as Rusty and Moo Moo Wish Soldiers and veterans dead, and demean and insult them and spew vulgarities and death threats and YOU and TT and VOLT applaud and condone their behavior just as you lie and project that liberals do.

    And as for the Tax thing Foole The Wealthy pay far less of a percentage of their income than the middle class and the tax the wealthy pay has been cut in half since reagan while the middle class pay roughly the same with far less decent paying job prospects thanks to mostof the good paying middle class jobs being shipped overseas so the CEOs can give them selves huge boneses and steal more from the working class.

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  187. mike's a dick said...
    Mike, what kind of word is "assine"


    You, of course.

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  188. mike's a dick said...
    CARL YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE ALREADY, BUT YOU GOT YOUR ASS BLISTERED ENOUGH FOR 1 DAY.


    Where was this again?

    Oh. Right, in your crack-smoking little brain...

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  189. Poor Johnny GooGoo....I should thank him for tipping me off about Widdle Twucker's picture...and his son's!

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  190. mike's a dick said...
    Carl,

    Mike can't obviously spell asinine


    How assine is it of you to try to explain anything to me, a native-born English speaker?

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  191. BTW Foole i'm still waiting for you to refute the voting fraud...............theres investigations, articles in major newspapers, yet some foole wearing a dunce cap in a blog claims to have the EVIDENCE to refute all this...........dont yac think this would be blockbuster news..............Come on Foole dazzle us with some facts not Reich Wing BS and dishonest talking points.

    YOUR the one with a credibility problem NOT us, we've been RIGHT about EVERYTHING, while you've been dead WRONG about EVERYTHING you've said!

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  192. Fascist Fan.............your just a clown, a court jester for the Reich Wing........your gibberish and attempts at to derail with humor or poking fun at other bloggers dont even merit a response..........your an ignorant bor pops and your stupid links and attempts at distraction merit no more than a scroll by.

    Your Volksturm that last desperate cries of the Reich wing in its death throes..........America sees what you are now and it sickens and repulsises them at what YOU are and what YOU and your ilk have TRIED to turn your country into.

    Repug is a fitting name for you assclowns because you certainly are repunant!

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  193. Now i'm not a computer expert like Troll Tex Or his Hackers but Why the hell would election results be redirected to another server particularly one controlled by the repugs............I cant think of ONE legitimate reason why that would be considered a reasonable and acceptable practice................maybe you can enlighten us Fascist Fan..............but hey if it is a reasonable and acceptable practice how about for the next two elections we rout the election results througn DNC servers........just to be fair and balanced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  194. mike's a dick said...
    your spelling and grammar is just as atrocious


    I've seen your assine attempts at erudtion, idiot.

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  195. Hey, GooGoo?

    Don't you have anything better to do?

    Like your daughter?

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  196. Now i'm not a computer expert like Troll Tex Or his Hackers but Why the hell would election results be redirected to another server particularly one controlled by the repugs............I cant think of ONE legitimate reason why that would be considered a reasonable and acceptable practice................maybe you can enlighten us Fascist Fan..............but hey if it is a reasonable and acceptable practice how about for the next two elections we rout the election results througn DNC servers........just to be fair and balanced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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