Wednesday, December 27, 2006

RETRACTION and APOLOGY

Jeffrey Cohen is a wonderful attorney, and I would want him on my team. I apologize to him for any perceived misunderstandings, or implications in this blog that he is anything less than an upright, ethical, sober and responsible attorney.

I did not post Jeffrey Cohen's name on this blog in connection with any statements. I certainly do not remember doing so and can't imagine ever having done such a thing. Attorneys names are never mentioned here, and if they are posted accidentally, they are deleted it immediately — as I cannot find it now anywhere on the web, in my files or on blogger itself. In fact, I contacted the webmaster who publishes my items and posted my own statement back in August reprimanding the National Enquirer for defaming my character, and he has no record of Jeffrey Cohen's name anywhere in all my web postings. No one remembers seeing his name posted here.

That said, if his name was mistakenly printed, it was immediately retracted, and there exists no record of it anywhere on the internet. At the time, I was being viciously attacked and slandered on my own blog by a certain "Anonymous"* poster (see below). The blog referred to was deleted within minutes of being posted, so no one could have seen it except the attackers themselves.

Jeffrey Cohen is not the most "corrupt of all crooks" attorney that may have been anonymously referred to in that long-deleted posting, and if that was the impression taken, I deeply apologize. Nothing was said with malice; every impression gathered of the attorneys involved in the case was based on heresay.

If I ever gave the impression that I believed Jeffrey Cohen was disbarred, reprimanded or had drug problems, I also apologize. It has been brought to my attention that Mr. Cohen has never been reprimanded for unethical tactics nor has he been disbarred for corruption and drug abuse. At the time I may have believed these things based on heresay, which I now realize is false, and was not meant to implicate Mr. Cohen or cause him any problems. A blog is a personal opinion journal that often contains mistakes. Again, the immediate deletion of said blog, is evidence that the entire article was already retracted back in August.

Again, Jeffrey Cohen is a wonderful attorney, and I would want him on my team. I hope this clears up any mistakes or misunderstanding.

For the past few months I've received malicious taunts and cruel comments on my blog by a person posing as "Anonymous." This person has defamed my character and slandered me. I would appreciate anyone with knowledge of who 'Anonymous' might be, to please come forward.

This blog is a journal of personal opinion. While it allows visitors from all over the world to comment, the blog owner is not liable for content or for any comments left here.

Thank you and God Bless you,
Happy New Year

487 comments:

  1. Lydia, I dont remember you ever mentioning that name on ANY of the threads, and I have a very good memory when it comes to that stuff.

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  2. Tiny the Blog Idiot said;

    Clif, do you think Bush is prosecuting the war in Iraq for political gain????


    Clif said "Yes son, gain for the neo-cons, for them to control the profits of the 10 trillion dollars which will be made on developing the Iraqi oil, gain because it made BUSH a war president, where he attacked the Bogyman Saddam who had NOTHING to do with 9-11, but Bush and Cheney spun it that way.

    Gain because his "mission accomplished" banner and speech where he declared he was a successful "war president" so he was setting himself up for his re-election.

    Too bad for Bush that the war has turned out MUCH harder to prosecute than he wanted to put forth the effort, and it has required planning Bush, Cheney or Rumsfeld never DID. Iraq required a knowledge of the history of that country region and various tribes and sects of both Shiite and Sunni peoples who populate the area, WHICH they also never did.

    So yes he began it for political gain, and has refused to change course, admit the truth of the fiasco because he percieves a very bad political LOSS, which the people of this country already gave him this November.

    He is just too stubborn or stupid to realize he has very little political capital left and very few people actually believe him any more at all.

    Almost everything Bush has done since he was chosen by the Supreme Court in 2000 has been for political gain of HIM or the suck up frauds who support him."

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  3. Clif said "BTW Tiny the Blog Idiot, why are you so dense, that you have to ask stupid questions at this late time in this war?

    Do you actually think we are "winning it" or just not losing yet like the Idiot in Chief?

    And how can you still back that MORON after his flip flop from "we're winning" before the election, to we're not winning....er....bbbb.... BBbuuuttt we're not LOSING[yet].


    And Donald Rumsfeld is going to be MY secretary of Defense....at the SAME time he was vetting Robert Gates.

    Or your doing a heck of a job Brownie?

    Or wanted Dead or Alive six months before ...I don't think about him much.

    Or any of these flip flops;

    Bush flip-flopped on whether former Baathists could participate in the new Iraq government.

    Bush opposed the creation of an independent Sept. 11 commission, then supported it.

    Bush has waffled on whether to adopt the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission.

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether the War on Terrorism is winnable.

    Bush has flip-flopped on Yucca Mountain.

    Bush has attempted to have it both ways on assault weapons.

    In 2000, Bush argued against new military entanglements and nation building. He's done both in Iraq.

    Bush opposed the creation of a Homeland Security Department, then embraced it.

    Bush first refused to speak to the members of the 911 Commission, then agreed only if Vice President Dick Cheney came with him and provided that their testimony was secret and not under oath.

    Bush argued for free trade, then imposed three-year tariffs on steel imports in 2002, only to withdraw them after 21 months.

    Bush and Cheney have been hypocritical flip-floppers on the question of whether we should prosecute the war on terrorism and assert our national power in a way that is "sensitive."

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether his legacy will be as a war president or a peace president.

    Bush keeps revising his Iraq war rationale.

    Bush has changed his positions on new Clean Air Act restrictions.

    Bush has changed his positions on protecting the Social Security surplus.

    Bush has flip-flopped on tobacco buyouts.

    Bush has changed his positions on the level of assistance to help combat AIDS in Africa.

    Bush has changed his positions on campaign finance reform.

    Bush has changed his positions on whether to negotiate with North Korean officials. While he has been dithering, North Korea has been moving forward with their nuclear program.

    Most recently, Bush did an about-face on whether the proposed new director of national intelligence should have full budget-making powers as the bipartisan Sept. 11 commission recommended.

    Bush has taken multiple positions on how this nation should deal with Iran.

    Bush has taken multiple positions on whether budget deficits matter.

    Bush has flip-flopped at least three times on whether patients should have the Right to Sue their HMOs.

    Bush has flip-flopped on abortion.

    Bush has flip-flopped on OPEC.

    Bush has flip flipped on Iraq Funding.

    Bush first said that we didn't need more troops in Iraq, then he reversed himself.

    Bush flip-flopped on Condoleeza Rice Testimony.

    Bush flip-flopped on Science.

    Bush flip-flopped on Ahmed Chalabi.

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether Weapons of Mass Destruction have been discovered in Iraq.

    Bush has flip-flopped on the Environment.

    Bush has flip-flopped on a WMD Commission.

    Bush flip-flopped on whether to grant a Time Extension for the 9/11 Commission.

    Bush flip-flopped on whether to impose a one Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony.

    Bush has flip-flopped on Gay Marriage.

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether there was a Saddam/al Qaeda Link.

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether a U.N. Resolution was necessary and desirable before the Iraq war

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether the U.S. should be involved in trying to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict.

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether restrictions on 527s are necessary and appropriate.

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether Medical Records should remain private.

    Bush has flip-flopped on whether timelines for dictators are appropriate.

    Bush has flip-flopped on the Great Lakes:

    Bush flip-flopped about who created the "Mission Accomplished" banner and what its significance was.

    FLIP: May 2, 2003: Bush is flown to the U.S.S. Lincoln aircraft carrier, dressed in a flight suit, and then proceeds to prance around the deck. Above him, the tower was adorned with a big sign that read, "Mission Accomplished." Declares a premature victory in Iraq, in the process revealing how little planning he has done for the Iraq occupation and how unrealistic his assumptions are about that occupation.

    FLOP: October 28, 2003: Six months after he spoke on an aircraft carrier deck with the death toll rising in Iraq and reality on the ground looking increasing chaotic, Bush (at a press conference) claimed that the administration had nothing to do with the banner being hung up on the aircraft carrier and said that the Navy called for it, and that it was hung up to mark the accomplishment of the ship's mission, not the U.S. mission in Iraq. At a news conference, Bush claimed that the "Mission Accomplished" sign "was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished."

    Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said at the time: "The mission for the sailors and crew on board the ship was accomplished. There are some continuing objectives we have on the security front, on the reconstruction front, on the political front."

    FLIP: October 29, 2003: the administration acknowledged that it was the White House who created the banner. Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, asked by reporters about the incident, called it "one of the most significant embarrassments of the entire Iraq experience so far. As he noted, "we've lost more lives since (Bush) declared victory than we lost prior to the time we declared victory. And this latest fabrication is yet another illustration of their (the Republican administration's) unwillingness to except reality. The administration "said that the Navy called for it, and that was a fabrication because they then later acknowledged that it was the White House who created the banner."

    Bush Flip-Flopped on arsenic standards.

    Bush Flip-flopped about manufacturing job loss and his "manufacturing czar."

    Bush said we must not appease terrorists, then lifted trade sanctions on Pakistan, which pardoned its official who sold nuclear secrets to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

    Bush Flip-flopped and Broke His 2000 Promises to Reform and Strengthen Social Security and Medicare, and to Not Raid the Social Security Trust Fund.

    Bush flip-flopped and broke his 2000 campaign pledge on the uninsured.

    Bush flip-flopped on his 2000 Promises to the Military and Veterans.

    Bush flip-flopped on whether they would arrest Al Sadr

    Bush flip-flopped on whether the U.S. would reach out to the international community for help with Iraq.

    Bush has flip-flopped on how to handle Fallujah.

    Bush and Cheney have flip-flopped on Defense System and Intelligence Funding Cuts.

    Bush and Cheney flip-flopped on the $87 Billion.

    Bush Flip Flopped on the question of whether a National Sales Tax is a good idea.

    From "Kenny Boy" Lay (CEO of Enron) to "Ken who?"

    Verification of all flip flops, HERE

    So Tiny the Blog Idiot how do you still defend the flip flopper in Chief, are you that stupid?"

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  4. ...that he is anything less than an upright, ethical, sober and responsible attorney...

    I just knew there hadta be one somewhere.

    /Hmm...sounds like a parry to some saber-rattling to me

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  5. The Prof asks:

    What the hell is the Breck Girl doing running for president again?

    Why did the DOW close over 12,000 for the first time ever?

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  6. Mike

    there is 1 thing....FOOD...EAT...GLUTTONY...PIGGING OUT

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  7. The Prof asks his liberal friends:

    Is Wal-Mart good for america?

    Would any of you throw the switch on Saddam?

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  8. look at the loser ranting because he doesnt want to face reality and cant answer the question near the top of the blog.............spin away little troll troll!

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  9. Mike's bashing his keyboard again

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  10. Mike,

    I have no idea to the question on the main blog, maybe it's you...if not it's just fabricated, I don't know.

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  11. look at the trolls using multiple alias to make it "APPEAR" there are more brainwashed blindly loyal partisan repug fools than there really are, truly pathetic!

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  12. the question is the number 2 and 3 posts fool, i could post it again if you would like?

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  13. Bush is a flip flopping bastard

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  14. The Prof asks:

    Would you please repost that third one? Perhaps you could repost it four or five times.

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  15. Bush has the religious thought that if he continues, that it will usher in the Rapture...BULLSHIT...Does anyone believe for 1 second that Jesus will Return in a bloodbath.

    No man knows the day and hour of his return.


    Jesus doesn't need the help of George bushfuck or anyone to usher in His Return.

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  16. Nothing like the threat of a friendly lawsuit to focus one's attention, eh?

    Q: What do you call 1000 lib lawyers on the floor of the ocean?

    A: A modest start.

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  17. The devil visited a lib lawyer's office and made him an offer. "I can arrange some things for you, " the devil said. "I'll increase your income five-fold. Your partners will love you; your clients will respect you; you'll have four months of vacation each year and live to be a hundred. All I require in return is that your wife's soul, your children's souls, and their children's souls rot in hell for eternity."

    The lib lawyer thought for a moment. "What's the catch?" he asked.

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  18. Lydia seems to be a wholesome person. I don't really think she has any problems with the national media.
    I never saw his name on this blog.

    I don't see any reason for a retraction, let alone an apology.

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  19. A lib lawyer was driving his big BMW down the highway, singing to himself, "I love my BMW, I love my BMW." Focusing on his car, not his driving, he smashed into a tree. He miraculously survived, but his car was totaled. "My BMW! My BMW!" he sobbed.

    A good Samaritan drove by and cried out, "Sir, sir, you're bleeding! And my god, your left arm is gone!"

    The lib lawyer, horrified, screamed "My Rolex! My Rolex!"

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  20. I don't see any reason for a retraction, let alone an apology.
    -clippy

    Me either. Might I suggest the response of the inimitable Anthony Hopkins in Legends of the Fall: "Screw 'em".

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  21. A reporter outside of a courtroom asked a defendant clad only in a barrel: “Oh, I see your lib attorney lost the case!” The defendant answered, “No, actually we won.”

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  22. Perhaps the apology was part of a deal to prevent a law suit.

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  23. I've never seen Jeffery Cohen's name here but theres a reason Lydia threw herslf on her sword.

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  24. That sounds logical.

    The end of her post speaks of someone slandering her...I don't see that happening either

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  25. A doctor and a lib lawyer were attending a cocktail party when the doctor was approached by a man who asked advice on how to handle his ulcer.

    The doctor mumbled some medical advice, then turned to the lawyer and asked, "How do you handle the situation when you are asked for advice during a social function?"
    "Just send a bill for such advice" replied the lawyer.

    On the next morning the doctor arrived at his surgery and issued the ulcer-stricken man a $50 bill. That afternoon he received a $100 bill from the lawyer.

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  26. I think it might be theatrics

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  27. As for Anonymous...just look at their IP #

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  28. Prof jackass said "I've never seen Jeffery Cohen's name here but theres a reason Lydia threw herslf on her sword."

    yeah i'm sure there is, probably something like Coulter and her troll minions tried to set Lydia up and get someone else to fight their battles........that is how you cowards like to fight isnt it......from the sidelines far away from the real fighting, so you wont get hurt.

    pathetic cowards to the bitter end, and the end is soon approaching for your idiot in chief.

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  29. This Anonymous was blasting her about her husband and some thing to due with some money.He really was a bit of a prick about it.

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  30. If it weren't for rich shyster lib lawyers, members of the Film Actors Guild, and union goons, the liberals might acually be able to sell their whiney shtick about eevil "rich Republicans".

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  31. Just what the F*^K does Ann Coulter have to do with what Lydia posted about this Cohen person? Mike you need to double up on the Paxil.

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  32. All nonsense to appeal to the baser elements of life....Mike you and your family know about things like that in Boston.

    BostonBeaners

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  33. ...yeah i'm sure there is, probably something like Coulter and her troll minions tried to set Lydia up...
    -mikey

    I dunno mikey, this has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it.

    Ann is much too busy for this sort of thing. She's working on her sixth book and all. I pretty sure that's almost as many as carl, the novelist, has written.

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  34. I'll tell you 1 thing Mike you better damn well not be that Anonymous character....or WATCH OUT PUNK!

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  35. Maybe Ms. Cornell will explain all this interpersonal intrigue in her soon-to-be-published book, which I am anxious to review.

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  36. Mike got his clock cleaned, and I mean, he got it bad.... turd

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  37. Yeah you babbling incoherently like an idiot is cleaning my clock, your a joke, wake up and stop swilling the koolaid little troll.

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  38. Mike you Bostonian bastard

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  39. you losers think you control the blog, its about time someone shut YOU up little troll.

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  40. The Prof had forgotten how touchy Mike gets whenever anyone says anything about Lydia.He is after all her gallent protector.

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  41. hey stupid its gallant not gallent.

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  42. Whatever....numbnutz.

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  43. LOL whats a gallent?...........is that kinda like the think Bush will be swinging from when hes convicted of treaso and war crimes?

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  44. The Prof suspects she still is.

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  45. What the hell is treaso?

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  46. Biography for
    Gerald Ford
    Birth name
    Leslie Lynch King Jr.


    Nickname
    Jerry


    Height
    6' (1.83 m)


    Spouse
    Betty Ford (15 October 1948 - present) 4 children


    Trade mark
    Known for occasional stumbles and falls in public while in office.


    Trivia
    Chosen as Richard Nixon's vice president after the resignation of Spiro Agnew. Later succeeded Nixon as president when he resigned. First person ever to hold the office of U.S. president without the vote of the people involved.

    Was sworn in as Vice-President on 6 December 1973, after the resignation of then Vice-President Spiro Agnew.

    Served in the House of Representatives from 1949-1973.

    In 1963, President Johnson appointed Ford to the Warren Commission, which investigated the assassination of President Kennedy. Ford is the last living member of that Commission.

    He pardoned President Nixon for his involvement in Watergate, which was largely unpopular with the American public. Many believe the pardon cost Ford the 1976 election, but Ford maintains that it was the right thing to do for the good of the country. Even Senator Ted Kennedy, staunch critic of the pardon in 1974, later admitted that it was the right thing for the country at that time.

    On two separate trips to California in September 1975, Ford was the target of assassination attempts. Both of the assailants were women -- 'Lynette "Squeaky' Fromme' and Sara Jane Moore.

    Played football while in college, and, after graduation, was offered positions with both the Detroit Lions and the Green Bay Packers. He declined in favor of taking a coaching (both boxing and football) job at Yale University.

    Children: Michael Gerald, born March 14, 1950; John Gardner, born March 16, 1952; Steven Meigs, born May 19, 1956; and Susan Elizabeth, born July 6, 1957.

    Earned the rank of Eagle Scout in 1927.

    Served in the Navy during WWII.

    Was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr., but his parents separated 2 weeks after his birth. His mother remarried when Ford was 2, and his name was changed to that of his step-father's, Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr. Ford did not know until he was 17 that his step-father was not his biological father.

    Graduated from the University of Michigan and Yale University Law School.

    Is an avid golfer.

    Is left-handed only when sitting down. While he has signed all his official documents with his left hand, he has been photographed writing on a chalkboard and throwing a softball right-handed, both while standing.

    Portrayed on "Saturday Night Live" (1975) by Chevy Chase.

    As of July 14, 2003 he is one of only four U.S. Presidents to live to their 90s. The other three were John Adams (1735-1826), Herbert Hoover (1874-1964) and Ronald Reagan (1911-2004).

    August 2, 2000 he was admitted to hospital after suffering two mild strokes at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

    May 18, 2003 he was admitted to hospital after suffering dizzy spells during a golf game he played in 96-degree heat in Rancho Mirage, California.

    While not an All-American football player at Michigan, his No. 48 jersey was retired in a Michigan Stadium ceremony October 8th, 1994.

    Was the first United States President to be adopted. As of 2005, the only other such President was Bill Clinton.

    On 12 November 2006 he became the longest-lived US president, at age 93 years 121 days, surpassing Ronald Reagan.

    After the death of Ronald Reagan, he became the oldest living former President.

    Is the only person to date who has served as Vice President and President without having been elected to either office. He took each office after the respective resignations of Spiro Agnew and Richard Nixon.

    He is a close friend of Jimmy Carter despite their quite different political idealogies and the fact Carter defeated him in the 1976 presidential election.

    In Thomas P. 'Tip' O'Neill's memoir, "Man of the House", Ford confided to O'Neill that he was considering running for President in 1980.

    Was a member of the Warren Commission.

    His wife, Betty Ford, suffered from alcoholism.

    His wife, Betty Ford, founded The Betty Ford Clinic for alcohol & drug rehabilitation.

    Hospitalized with shortness of breath in July 2006.

    Father of Susan Ford and Steven Ford.

    Holds the record for having the most assassination attempts made on him while serving as President. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme made an attempt on September 5, 1975 and Sara Jane Moore made another attempt on September 22, 1975. Ford escaped without injury both times.

    Became the longest lived president on November 12, 2006.

    As of November 12, 2006, he is the longest-lived U.S. President at 93 years, 121 days. Ronald Reagan lived to 93 years, 120 days.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Personal quotes
    I know that you have not elected me as President with your votes, but I ask that you confirm me with your prayers.

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from everything you have."

    "I am a Ford, not a Lincoln

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  47. The repugs have professors and so called scientists and experts who need a speak and spell to form a coherent thought, how sad, you fools wouldnt even know the truth if it bit you on the ass.

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  48. Mike,you know....yes you know that you're a moron.

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  49. Mike you should talk about others, your spelling and grammar are horrendous, you spell like a 1st grader

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  50. Mike,

    Your parents must be inbred and homeschooled you. I have never seen anyone write like you.

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  51. Mike,have you broken the news to mum and dad that you're moving out of their house?

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  52. Troll Tex and Fascist fool need the trained monkeys to come in and rescue them LOL Tall Tex you are the dumbest SOB on this earth and FF you are a close second old man!

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  53. Mike,


    Get your act together...man

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  54. Prof jackass said "Without worf,clif and carl to protect you you're reduced to the idiot you are."

    no whats interesting is that since copying is the most sincere form of flattery, and I said that to Troll Tex the other day thanks for the compliment.

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  55. Mike,when you say "incoherennt" do you really mean incoherent?

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  56. Just checking in before I hit the hay after having a few days off to celebrate Jesus' Fake Birthday.
    -dkb

    What a delightful beauty. Luv the nose hair, but please bring back the picture of the 20-years-younger next door neighbor.

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  57. Did Santa leave Mike the new blow up girlfriend this year?

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  58. Mike,I've got to agree with clippy.He did knock you around pretty good.

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  59. Mike fills up this blog with all his insults and drivel, and can't stand it when I beat his ass off..if I ever see you on the streets of Boston you better run...PUNKASS

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  60. I think he ran away clippy.

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  61. Hes out sending the bat signal for worf,clif and carl to come and help him.

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  62. typical repug tough guy issuing threats while hiding behind a keyboard, you wanna try to kill me clippy then crawl out from under your rock and give it a shot...........be a man for ONCE in your pathetic life loser!

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  63. I must agree, mikey's clock is immaculate.

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  64. I know he would run away

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  65. I never said kill...you need to have your clock cleaned

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  66. Mike is a paranoid schizophrenic if he thinks about being killed

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  67. At least no one can accuse mikey of having a dirty mind, since simply having a mind is sine qua non.

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  68. FF said "I must agree, mikey's clock is immaculate."

    I think you had a spelling error there pops you added an extra letter to the word clock, we all know the word you and your twinkle toed symbol really meant....................BTW, thanks for polishing it up for me old man and try to file down those teeth more next time.

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  69. typical repug tough guy issuing threats while hiding behind a keyboard, you wanna try to kill me clippy then crawl out from under your rock and give it a shot...........be a man for ONCE in your pathetic life loser!
    -mikey

    Calm down, my paranoid little friend. All us neo-cons are not really out to get you. Eh ... what is your address? Bwahahahahahaa.

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  70. Mike talks about age, when he is older than all of us here...old fart

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  71. Mike,go put soap in your mouth!!! You better hope mummy does'nt find out how you talk.

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  72. Mike reminds me of Ralph in A Christmas Story but he wants a girlfriend not the BB gun.

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  73. But he settled for one he can blow up.

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  74. Mike is messed up in the head...he looks like the type of guy that could push a busload of kids off a bridge.

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  75. Mikey's emotional age is -5.

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  76. Mike likes to blow alright.

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  77. Christ sake Mike,you're getting kicked from all sides.

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  78. Imagine Mike being sent to bed without any dinner.

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  79. Getting kicked like when you jump in after worf and carl bust up TT.

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  80. Mike would eat the blanket.

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  81. Mike reminds me of Ralph in A Christmas Story but he wants a girlfriend not the BB gun.
    -prof chaos

    Actually I believe mikey has given up trying to pitch woo to women, and has switched sides. He found the magic, of moonlight trysts with PP in men's urine-soaked restrooms, simply irresistable.

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  82. Mike does what Worf tells him. If Lydia told Mike to jump, Mike would say how high Ma'am

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  83. Justb like Mike justs keeps insulting...Mike if Worf were here he'd keep your ass in line

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  84. Mikey is not sure what to say without his lib buddies here with their hands up his puppet keister.

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  85. MIKE DELETED A POST THAT WAS VULGAR AND TASTELESS....DAMN YOU

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  86. THE FOOLE said "Mikey is not sure what to say without his lib buddies here with their hands up his puppet keister."

    ugh no fool you guys arent debating ANYTHING right now, see unlike when you or the blog idiot Troll Tex get destroyed in debate all your doing is calling names like vulgar 4th graders when you grow up and have anything worthwhile or legitimate to discuss give me a holler old man, but on your case that better be quick because you dont have much time before senility sets in along with the delusions.

    if this is your idea of victory fool you have really sunk low and are even more pathetic than i imagined!

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  87. it wasnt that vulgar Clippy but regardless I apologize for stooping to your level and calling names you arent worth the time, maybe someday you'll see the light and the error of your ignorant ways.But right now I pity you.

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  88. Mike,when have YOU ever debated anything? All you do is cut and paste someones words.
    As for name calling,I believe you take the cake on that front.

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  89. I wish Carl would come back; he's much more fun to insult than mikey.

    Mikey is about as much challenge as dynamiting fish in a barrel.

    Mikey is about as much challenge as anyone entering a personality contest with dkb. Last time she lost to algore.

    Mikey is about as much challenge as entering a joke-telling contest with cliffy.

    Mikey is about as much challenge as playing basketball with Stephen Hawking.

    Mikey is about as much challenge as playing marbles with Helen Keller.

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  90. Mikey is about as much challenge as wondering whether Hillary will raise taxes.

    Mikey is about as much challenge as playing rochambeau with a snake.

    Mikey is about as much challenge as playing chess with a chimp.

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  91. For the past few months I've received malicious taunts and cruel comments on my blog by a person posing as "Anonymous." This person has defamed my character and slandered me. I would appreciate anyone with knowledge of who 'Anonymous' might be, to please come forward.

    Is there a reward? Okay I'm pretty sure it was Mr. Cohen wearing a mustache.

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  92. Come on Foole, it aint over till its over.............I aint heard no bell foole!

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  93. I reserve the right to delete posts that use the f-word or any personal insults and foul language.

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  94. Let's go mikey. (Please don't hurt me.)

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  95. No insults? What fun is that?

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  96. FF I had a long conversation today with a brilliant scholar. We agreed that you are a true Republican, but not a sociopathic neocon.

    The sociopaths are obvious.

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  97. Well Ok Lyd, that sounds good to me, but most of this thread oughta be deleted if thats the criteria.

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  98. For footnotes I consulted an eminent psychiatrist to help understand the neo-con mentality.
    It's very interesting. I'll post my findings soon.

    In the meantime, there are definitely some "people of the lie" on this blog. The "Anonymous" person, the people who taunt and threaten me under psuedonyms and the ones who planted that National Enquirer article are all this type.

    They thrive on destroying others. Did anyone read M. Scott Peck's book about human evil?

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  99. Yeah he's not a sociopath, but he is a true repug through and through.

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  100. I wonder if THIS is the guy?

    If it is he's plenty crooked. The lying scum is trying to STEAL another guys website!

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  101. John Dean's book goes into depth analyzing the neo-con brand of thought. Rove, Cheney, Bush all have no conscience.

    Did you know Cheney had 2 DUIs and dropped out of Yale (or was it Harvard?) and got 5 draft deferments through his family's wealthy friends (even though he dropped out of college.)

    How did this man wind up being Vice President of the United States?

    And how on earth did he shoot someone in the face while drunk, yet never suffer any consequences?

    And how did the victim end up apologizing for being shot -- just to assuage Cheney's embarrassment-suffering!

    A true narcissist & sociopath only concerns himself with
    self-preservation. He is unable to think of others as anything but a stepping stone or an obstacle.

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  102. If anybody wanted to leave him a little message, he has his own blog HERE.

    Looks like he could use some traffic, no posts at all.

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  103. FF I had a long conversation today with a brilliant scholar. We agreed that you are a true Republican, but not a sociopathic neocon.
    -Lydia Cornell

    Thank you, Ms. Cornell. That scholar was brilliant indeed.

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  104. I wonder if THIS is the guy? If it is he's plenty crooked. The lying scum is trying to STEAL another guys website!
    -Voltron

    LOL Volt. But that's kinda what I imagined mikey would look like. No wonder he wouldn't divulge his occupation. Who could blame him.

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  105. FF I had a long conversation today with a brilliant scholar. We agreed that you are a true Republican, but not a sociopathic neocon.
    -Lydia Cornell

    Thank you, Ms. Cornell. That scholar was brilliant indeed.
    FF

    Ahh thanks guys, now your making me blush!

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  106. I posted pictures of Mike earlier in June, when he came to Vegas to see us perform comedy.

    Mike is very good looking.

    Everyone stop being so jealous of Mike.

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  107. Lydia said "John Dean's book goes into depth analyzing the neo-con brand of thought. Rove, Cheney, Bush all have no conscience."

    Lydia, its sad that there are people in this world that are so deluded twsisted and evil that they have no reedeeming qualities at all.

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  108. Anonymous5:29 PM

    Hi FF, I'm not joining in, I just dropped by to help a little I hope.

    Before I go though you forgot one good lawyer joke:

    You know why sharks won't eat lawyers?

    Professional courtesy...

    Night all.

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  109. Volt, thank you for your post, but this is not the same person.

    This is not his picture.
    But thanks anyway.

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  110. Hey volt, we miss you.

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  111. BTW Volt for someone who swore never to return you sure popped in pretty quick with that info,.............did you post under the wrong handle or are you back for keeps.

    regardless I hope you had a merry Christmas, you were always my favorite wingnut to talk to, I found you "interesting" even though I found your genocidal hard line policies disturbing.

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  112. Anonymous5:38 PM

    I've only had one handle Mike.

    But this is probably not the right place for me. Sociopath neo-cons are a little too far to the left for my tastes...LOL

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  113. hey volt post a link to your blog.

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  114. Anonymous5:42 PM

    http://voltronsplace.blogspot.com/

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  115. It's interesting the FOOLE never wins any extended rants, never actually has a come back to Carl's bitch slapping the foole gets daily, (and Foole YOUR the bitch, not Carl son) and he still thinks he's winning, no wonder Bush thinks he was winning in Iraq, idiots like Bush and the Foole thinks alike, with severely addled minds.

    Sucks to be shown for what you are son, a gutless draft dodger who pretends to win debates just like you pretend to be intelligent.

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  116. But he does have the troll scout troop on overtime today;

    Clippy is working on the hypocritical unchristian badge,

    Prof Keyass is working to the dumber than the blog idiot badge.

    Dolty boy is working on the lying hypocrite I really didn't mean it badge.

    OF course Dolty boy wants to be here but can't seem to think of a way of flip-flopping like bush does all the time with out looking dumber than he already does, with all his "buds" hanging out here instead of his anorexic blog.

    He must have learned how to run a Blog from Tiny the blog Idiot, who has a blog as anemic as dolty boy's blog has become.

    Stupid is as stupid does and dolty boy and Tiny the blog idiot are like peas in a pod when it comes to stupid it seems.

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  117. Anonymous6:19 PM

    clippy said...
    if I ever see you on the streets of Boston you better run...PUNKASS

    3:56 PM


    You know how I know this moron is no more than a 19 year old snot nosed idiot?

    Besides his inability to articulate a single sentence on at least a sixth grade level, but only a kid would be so stupid, as to write a physical threat to someone and post it online.

    You're gonna wanna save this one Mike.

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  118. Actually Worfeus we should get "clippy" to say what street he peddles his ass on in Boston.

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  119. Well Worf Lydia deleted a bunch of vulgar and threatening posts and Clippy might have deleted a few as well. he wished me dead and threatened several times to hang me, like he would ever have the balls to crawl out from behind his keyboard.

    there were probasbly close to 20 vulgar troll posts that got deleted.

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  120. Anonymous6:35 PM

    Freedom Fan said...

    Q: What do you call 1000 lib lawyers on the floor of the ocean?

    A: A modest start.


    Q: What's brown, black, and looks good on a conservative lawyer?

    A: A doberman.

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  121. Anonymous6:42 PM

    Mike, only a very stupid person would make threats like that on the internet. If indeed he did make a death threat, and you or Lydia have it saved, then he has opened himself up to arrest and prosecution.

    I think you will find that in most states, it is illegal to make death threats. And when you do it on the internet, I think the FBI are the ones who investigate them.

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  122. literally 100 troll posts of nothing but insults, threats and vulgar baby talk then out of the blue volt pops in with a link to someone he thought could be that lawyer.

    interesting how volt just happened to be in the neighborhood at the coinclusion of the troll fest.

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  123. Anonymous6:44 PM

    Death threats are never to be taken lightly.

    But even threats to assault someone is a crime.

    One things for sure, only someone very young, and very dumb would be stupid enough to post them on the Internet.

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  124. I dont know about only young Worf, TT once asked me if I would like to be strung up and hanged with piano wire several months ago, and clippy has wished me dead and threatened to hang me at least 5 times in the last several months and about 3 times in the last week or so.

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  125. Anonymous6:49 PM

    I've heard a lot of insults in here, but I've never heard too many threats, except lately.

    TT made a suggestion that could be construed to be threatening, albeit subtly, but out and out death threats need to be documented and reported.

    If these are stored in the archives then he's screwed.

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  126. its not that i;m scared, i'm just sick of the empty BS talk either shut up or put your money wherte your mouth is and try to back up your empty talk.

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  127. Anonymous6:51 PM

    We read about the dangers online every day, from sicko's and lunatics and all sorts of nutcases.

    Clearly clippy has demonstrated he is unbalanced in here, so if he's threatening people I'd take it seriously.

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  128. Anonymous6:54 PM

    No one thinks you're scared Mike.

    But you should be alarmed.

    The Secret Service advises people to take EVERY internet threat seriously, and when someone is almost stalker like in his manner, and shows signs of being unbalanced, then you need to take it seriously.

    People think they can hide on the internet, but experience has proven otherwise.

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  129. "Mike said...
    I dont know about only young Worf, TT once asked me if I would like to be strung up and hanged with piano wire several months ago, and clippy has wished me dead and threatened to hang me at least 5 times in the last several months and about 3 times in the last week or so.

    6:48 PM"

    Mike, if I recall correctly, there was some discussion about dissenting in Nazi Germany, and I suggested that if one did dissent back then, one would risk being hung by piano wire, which was one of Hitler's favorite ways to torture and/or kill people.

    Context is crucial. It wasn't a threat in any sense of the word. It was a discussion about dissenting in Nazi Germany.

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  130. Anonymous7:01 PM

    TT said;

    Mike, if I recall correctly, there was some discussion about dissenting in Nazi Germany, and I suggested that if one did dissent back then, one would risk being hung by piano wire, which was one of Hitler's favorite ways to torture and/or kill people.

    Thats right. I do remember it that way as well.

    But what you said the other day to one of them, either Clif or Mike, I can't remember. That did seem a little threatening. I don't think you meant it, but if I were you, I'd avoid even the appearance of it.

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  131. well look what the cat just dragged in, and to correct you TT I was talking about Nazi's and you replied by asking me "if I would like to be strung up and hung by piano wire"

    dont worry TT, while I never accused you of bering too smart, I acknowledge that you are at least wise enough to only issue veiled threats......see thats how you repugs operate its all semantics and focus on the letter of the law rather than the spirit, its all syle over substance with you.

    in your deluded mind Nixon being a coward and resigning before he was without a doubt clearly impeached is somehow different and better than actually being impeached, to any normal person there is not much of a difference but to a repug who focuses on semantics and deception there is a huge difference.

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  132. He made a veiled threat against Carl who was bitch slapping Tiny real bad at the time, Tiny hates that, as each time it happens he raises something totally irrelevant or tries to slander the person. He tried to threaten Carl, even if he has deleted the comment by now.

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  133. Anonymous7:07 PM

    Thats right Clif. It was Carl. It was just the other day to.

    But even if he did delete it, I believe I copied it and posted it in a response, which means its still there, at least a copy of it.

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  134. Anonymous7:08 PM

    Usually when a little brute is intellectually outclassed, his frustration is expressed with threats of physical violence.

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  135. Tiny the Blog Idiot, is slimy like that, he posts lies and slander when he gets bitch slapped bad, which he usually does.

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  136. see Worf and TT, not that i'm dwelling on this or even giving it a second thought, but i take a veiled threat far more seriously than a heat of the moment threat blurted out in asnger by an unstable individual;, because there was forethought and and consideration that went into formulating that veiled threat.

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  137. Mike, it was not a threat in any sense of the word. It was a discussion about Nazi Germany.

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  138. Oh and BTW Tiny in the spirit of FULL disclosure, you RANT that Clinton was Impeached, But you leave out NOT convicted , which means the impeachment attempt FAILED.

    Nixon however resigned right before the house began impeachment proceedings, and THEN Gerald Ford had to PARDON Nixon, which means he had something to be pardoned about, Ford believed it, so HE pardoned Nixon.

    Seems Clinton was not guilty enough for conviction, BUT only Nixon needed a pardon to protect Him and the repugs who aided and abetted him.

    Try spinning Nixon's need for a pardon and the fact Clinton did NOT

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  139. "clif said...
    Oh and BTW Tiny in the spirit of FULL disclosure, you RANT that Clinton was Impeached, But you leave out NOT convicted , which means the impeachment attempt FAILED."

    Wrong, Clif. The impeachment attempt succeeded because he WAS impeached. You and Mike can't get that through your think heads.

    That's like saying someone was not indicted because they were aquitted at trial. They were still indicted.

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  140. Tiny GFY son, Clinton was NOT removed from office no matter how bad the hypocritical repugs and assclowns like you want to pretend different, and UNLIKE Nixon, Clinton STOOD his ground, Agnew and NIXON cut and ran, with Ford pardoning Nixon to cover his ass for the crimes he committed.

    Nixon was guilty, his resignation shows that, the senate said Clinton was NOT.

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  141. See TT is a master of semantics he tries to spin it that Nixon being a coward and resigning BEFORE he would have been surely impeached is better than Clinton being impeached but not removed from office.

    What Clinton did was minor compared to Nixon or GWB, but Clinton was a man and stood his ground unlike the cowardly Nixon, who pretended to be untouchable till justice came his way...............funny thing is Bush makes even Nixon seem good in comparison.

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  142. Mike, it's not semantics. If we are going to discuss history, let's be accurate.

    If your history teacher gave you a multiple choice question that went as follows, which would be correct?:

    Nixon was:

    a) impeached
    b) removed
    b) found guilty
    c) all of the above
    d) none of the above

    The correct answer would be d) none of the above.

    Try telling your history teacher it's all semantics if you answered incorrectly.

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  143. well technically removed is correct as well, TT, since he removed himself, but your preaching to the choir I acknowledged immediately back then that he was not impeached however where we differ is I dont think that is better or even different than actually being impeached, we all KNOW he would surely have been impeached and removed.

    The repugs told Bush to tell Nixon to resign or he would be impeached.

    Nixon resigned to avoid impeachment.

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  144. Tiny the BLOG IDIOT said;

    Nixon was:

    a) impeached


    articles of impeachment WERE voted out of committee;

    The House Judiciary Committee voted 27 to 11 on July 27, 1974 to recommend the first article of impeachment against the President: obstruction of justice. The second (abuse of power) and third (contempt of Congress) articles were passed on July 29 and July 30, respectively.

    Wiki;


    b) removed

    By his OWN hand Richard Milhouse Nixon removed himself from the office of the Presidency, BEFORE the full house voted impeachment and:

    Nixon's support in the Senate was weak as well. After being told by key Republican Senators that enough votes existed to convict him, Nixon decided to resign. In a nationally televised address on the evening of August 8, 1974, he announced he would resign effective noon on August 9. Though Nixon's resignation obviated the pending impeachment, criminal prosecution was still a possibility. He was immediately succeeded by Gerald Ford, who on September 8, 1974, issued a pardon for Nixon, immunizing him from prosecution for any crimes he may have committed as President. Nixon proclaimed his innocence until his death, although his acceptance of the pardon was construed by many as an admission of guilt. He did state in his official response to the pardon that he "was wrong in not acting more decisively and more forthrightly in dealing with Watergate, particularly when it reached the stage of judicial proceedings and grew from a political scandal into a national tragedy.

    Wiki

    b) found guilty

    Only the pardon by Gerald Ford blocked this, thus he WAS guilty by extension, since both the House voted for articles of impeachment and had the votes to impeach, and the Senate had the votes to convict son.

    c) all of the above

    Only an assclown idiot like the gutless tiny the blog idiot would try to spin this the way HE does.

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  145. Clif, you need more than a committee vote to impeach. "Removal" is a constitutional term of art. "Removed," constitutionally, is NOT the same as "resignation."

    Once again, you would get an "F" from your teacher for that answer.

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  146. BTW Tiny the Blog Idiot,

    In 1976, Nixon was disbarred by the State of New York, and soon resigned his other law licenses.

    So he was also permanently disbarred, Clinton WAS NOT Permanently disbarred son.

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  147. I posted pictures of Mike earlier in June, when he came to Vegas to see us perform comedy. Mike is very good looking. Everyone stop being so jealous of Mike.
    -Lydia Cornell

    Yes, mikey is quite a hunk, albeit barely conscious or perhaps snookered. PP and cliffy, please refrain from looking as it will proly make you lib boys feel all funny in the pants.

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  148. 'Course those two bald guys next to mikey ain't bad either.

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  149. No tiny the blog idiot, removal FROM the office is the United States of America is what Nixon did son. He resigned and was disbarred for life for committing Felonies against this country, Clinton NOT SO MUCH Gutless.

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  150. Tiny only ONE President ever lost his office because of HIS actions son, that is NIXON, son NOT Clinton son.

    Hate to tell you son, your wrong but trying to make Clinton worse than Nixon or Bush, but that dog don't hunt son, hell it ain't even alive any more remember the loss in November son, that dog is DEAD.

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  151. Lookie, the Foole in his GAY get up is talking about looking at men and feeling funny in the pants again, Foole please try to refrain your self, or run off to Mexico with the Viagra again son, Emanuael is waiting for you son, and you OWE him for last time , you cheated him again son.

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  152. Cliffy, you're a naughty rascal. xxoo

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  153. Or Foole maybe you can visit Boston and pick "clippy" up on the street corner he said he worked son, after the good rev haggard stopped calling "clippy" is kinda short on funds for his "meth".

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  154. Sorry son but your the one who prances around in the get up like a gay man, and posted this;

    please refrain from looking as it will proly make you lib boys feel all funny in the pants

    from personal; experience's son, or just numerous trips to Mexico with the Viagra son.

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  155. Lookie, the Foole in his GAY get up is talking about looking at men...

    C'mon I wasn't looking at men; I was looking at mikey.

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  156. Because your the one who NOTICES things like that,

    BTW Mike be careful around the FOOLE remember Foley and Haggard pretended and denied reverently until they got caught also.

    me thinks the foole and those two closeted clowns have MUCH in common.

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  157. ... but mostly the two short bald guys next to mikey...

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  158. Anonymous8:37 PM

    You know what Clif? I guess one could say technically TT is correct, but who cares? He is arguing semantics, when clearly the issue is not whether an actual impeachment process ensued, and was ratified. Nixon was busted being culpable of criminal actions.

    And not just any criminal acts, but those of deception and moral turpitude. He acknowledged his guilt by quitting, and fled to evade prosecution. We know this. It's a matter of history. Not perception. Just cleary documented history, with ample empirical evidence.

    He was guilty, and everyone knew it. I was just a teenager, and I knew it.

    You ever fill out a job application, and see the question, Have you ever resigned a position of employment because you knew you were about to be terminated?.

    You see it on most job apps these days. Why? Because employers don't differentiate between those who get caught, and those who quit to avoid being held accountable.

    And neither do most people.

    Nixon was guilty of serious crimes, and was caught red handed. I hate to quote Judge Judy because I know I'll get crap for it, but she's a damn smart lady (a lot smarter than the right wingers I've seen in here) but she has what she calls, "Good Evidence".

    She says "Good Evidence" trumps all else.

    When you have a suspect, with a motive, opportunity, the physical evidence in his possession, and eyewitnesses, you don't need too much extrapolation. The crimes been spelled out. We know they're guilty, because we see with our own eyes, and hear with our own ears. I am not talking about circumstantial evidence here now mind you, I am talking about physical evidence, like they had in the Nixon hearings.

    People went to jail because of Nixons crimes. The fact that he escaped punishment is moot. President Ford pardoned him. I happen to disagree with you on the good thing it was for the country. While you're right, it did help to bring the country together somewhat, and healed us "for the moment", it left a festering cancer growing underneath, which pussed to the surface and put men like Bush 2 in power. We gave them the impression they can get away with it. And that was the wrong impression to give. We may have healed in the short term, but I think the underlying infection spread throughout the national body, and told men like Nixon, that they too could "get away with it".

    And then we got Bush.

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  159. Sorry Foole but Mike is 38 which is a MANB son, I know you used to trolling college repug parties for future closeted repugs to "party" with, but there are men out there who do not look like Ken Melhman, Karl Rove, Mark Foley or Ted Haggard.

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  160. me thinks the foole and those two closeted clowns have MUCH in common...

    I must insist that you stop dissin' mikey like that.

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  161. Seems your the only one who is critical of a mans body FOOLE seems your a connoisseur of mens bodies it seems, thus the gay costume and all the talk about feeling funny IN your pants.

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  162. The FOOLE said;

    me thinks the foole and those two closeted clowns have MUCH in common...

    I must insist that you stop dissin' mikey like that.


    the FOOLE has the little gay picture next to his fake name son, NOT mike but you FOOLE, fawnbot.

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  163. I luv this silly icon; I have never heard libs howl so much about absolutely nuthin. So I'm gonna keep it 'cause I must be doin somethin rite.

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  164. Seems that Tiny gave up the ghost of the lie he spews, so the foole is here to protect his place as the BLOG FOOLE gaydolf get up and all.

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  165. Anonymous8:45 PM

    Anyway, Clinton was busted over a private sexual affair that with regards to our national security or anything for that matter that had to do with us on a national level, was irrelevant.

    We made it relevant, or at least the "moral majority" did. But it really didn't matter to us, and we should have kept ours, and that prick ken starr's noses out of it.

    Clinton technically was impeached in the house, but it was never ratified by the senate. Saying he was aquitted is an accurate statement.

    But what TT can't get through his thick head, is that it is the crime and the severity of the crime that matters. Not the technical proceedings that follow. Guilty people get off scott free all the time, just ask O.J. And innocent men end up on deaths row. Just ask 60 Minutes.

    TT knows Nixon was as dirty as a sow in a mudswamp, and commited crimes for which any one of us would have went to jail for.

    Ford pardoned him, and saved his ass. But he should have went to jail.

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  166. Bet you get a lot of email asking " you do make them HORNEY" right son?

    Just like your gonna keep the false generalizations and lies you spew here right gaydolf?

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  167. Gaydolf the FOOLE

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  168. Seems your the only one who is critical of a mans body...

    Golly cliffy you sound hurt. Hey, I'm pretty sure you're quite the stud too (and I mean that in the sweetest possible way).

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  169. Worfeus I remember the time of Nixon's impeachment and subsequent resignation.

    My father was beside himself that they would actually impeach Nixon, but when he resigned, for some reason MY dad accepted that. I do not think a trial would have done much good after NIXON had to resign in disgrace.

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  170. And If Bush was to be impeached it would NOT solve much unless he was convicted as well.

    Clinton's impeachment did NOT help the country, but did help assclowns like TINY to lie for bush and hide his flaws like the DUI until it was too late.

    The Impeachment will be seen by history as the political hack job it was.

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  171. In fact I hear more and more if all you can get Bush impeached for is a blowjob, they wish Condi would get on with it.

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  172. After all she is as close to Bush's Monica as we are ever gonna get.

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  173. Worfeus said "You ever fill out a job application, and see the question, Have you ever resigned a position of employment because you knew you were about to be terminated?.

    You see it on most job apps these days. Why? Because employers don't differentiate between those who get caught, and those who quit to avoid being held accountable.

    And neither do most people."

    and thats exactly what I said months ago when this issue was initially discussed, TT's argument is all semantics there is not much difference between someone who resigns to avoid impeachment or someone who is actually impeached and yes job applications do ask that because the world sees little difference between the two.

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  174. Funny on CNN Jim Wallis said the gospel is against the limited affluence of a few where the rest of humanity lived in poverty, and both conservative religious leaders they had to debate him AGREED.

    I guess it was MORE about helping the poor then reichwingnut election strategies all along, now that the repugs have LOST.

    Must suck for them to have to admit that, Jesus cared MORE about helping the poor than policing the bedroom.

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  175. Anonymous8:59 PM

    Clif said...
    I do not think a trial would have done much good after NIXON had to resign in disgrace.


    You may be right but I think while a trial would be painful at the moment, when the country was still reeling from the watergate revelations, it would have in the long run, been beneficial to the country.

    Sure resigning smarts, for about 30 minutes until that chopper lands at Martha's Vineyard and you sit back to right your book and count your money as the speech offers and chair of the board seat offers come rolling in. Life is cushy for an ex president. He doesn't worry about what he's going to eat that night, or the next night, or any night. He doesn't worry about the mortgage, the car, the operation, whatever. He'll be taken care of, and he knows it. And while public shame smarts, theres always plenty of hobnobbers hanging around to console you and cajole you into thinking you're still a great man.

    I think that impeaching Nixon would have been like removing a tumor while the wound is open as opposed to draining the puss out of the tumor and stitching the patient back up.

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  176. Anonymous9:03 PM

    And the cancer that grew, was the cancer of the brain that tells men like Bush, that the worst that will happen to him if he starts wars, lies to start them, and then changes the constitution "on the fly" to suit his every whim, is that he will have to resign and go write a book (in his case have someone write it for him), and drink expensive imported beer. Or budweiser if you're Bush.

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  177. After all she is as close to Bush's Monica as ...

    Clinton was to Monica's bush.

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  178. Anonymous9:03 PM

    Or maybe he drinks Busch.

    lol

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  179. Worfeus ONCE Nixon resigned, Impeachment was impossible as he was NO longer the President, Ford was.

    And the trial was not really gonna get the US much, because Nixon would have drug it and the appeals out for YEARS even decades.

    Ford and the government was facing the beginnings of stagflation, Remember the WIN buttons? Ford had that problem BEFORE Carter did.

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  180. Anonymous9:07 PM

    Of course, on the other hand, that probably wouldn't have stopped our boy anyway. But at least we'd have set a precedent for prosecuting him. And in Federal law, and in particular Constitutional law, precedent is normally trump.

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  181. Anonymous9:07 PM

    Just ask our new Cheif Justice Roberts.

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  182. Worfeus i am not sure conviction of Nixon would have resulted in much, as the Congress moved from the Watergate hearings into the CIA and FBI lawbreaking investigations which resulted in FISA and limits on their illegal activities until Cheney and Bush decided to ignore the law again like Nixon did.

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  183. Hell I actually thing Iran Contra has MORE to do with the fact that Bush and Cheney decided to ignore the law, as Reagan ET Al got away with it, unlike Nixon.

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  184. Anonymous9:14 PM

    clif said...
    Worfeus ONCE Nixon resigned, Impeachment was impossible as he was NO longer the President, Ford was.


    I know that Clif. I was not talking about impeachment. Ford didn't pardon him to avoid impeachment, he pardoned him to avoid federal prosecution, for which he would have faced had Ford not pardoned him.

    As for the trial dragging on for years I can't say, but like I did say earlier, what they had on Nixon was not junk. It was "Good Evidence".

    Good Evidence is trump and he could have argued to the cows came home, but they had the payoff list and they had him on tape admitting to it.

    They had him cold. Maybe he'd have pulled some crap, but I don't think so. I think a Federal Grand Jury would have indicted him and I think he would have been sent straight to jail.

    But that last part of course is just my opinion. Now because Ford did pardon him, we'll never know.

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  185. Worfeus a good set of lawyers could have tied to courts up for YEARS with motions and counter motions, which would have sent the trial into the late 1970's, with out the subsequent appeals, which could have dragged on for a while.

    Hell look at what happened with Enron, five years from crime to trial, and Enron did not have the access Nixon would have in 1974.

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  186. Volt, I did not say Jeffrey Cohen was the malicious "anonymous." I made an apology to Cohen for thinking the worst of him.

    He's a good lawyer.

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  187. Worf said "And the cancer that grew, was the cancer of the brain that tells men like Bush, that the worst that will happen to him if he starts wars, lies to start them, and then changes the constitution "on the fly" to suit his every whim, is that he will have to resign and go write a book (in his case have someone write it for him), and drink expensive imported beer. Or budweiser if you're Bush."

    Clif i'm with Worf here, I think we ned to send a strong message to future presidents that if you abuse your power or commit acts of treason YOU WILL be held accountable.

    I realize i'm probably in the minority here, but thats how I feel, my uncle talks similarly to you Clif, and i'd be willing to bet Lydia feels that way also as she always seems to favor forgiveness, but on thios issue I tend to take a hard line as I feel , we need to put future dictators and megalomaniacs on notice that you abbuse your power and/or commit acts of treason you better be ready to pay the price and be held accountable.

    Being presidfent is a sacred responsibility not a blank check to do as you please and to operate above the law of the land and to defy the Constitution.

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  188. Anonymous9:21 PM

    I do understand your point though about healing the country, but I think its sends a weak message, that we'll make you quit your job but we won't prosecute you.

    I know most companies will prosecute employess who steal or commit other crimes against the company or the customers, in addition to terminating them.

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  189. Yes, I agree. Bush has committed treason with a capital T. He has committed war crimes. He has lied to the American people. He has broken the Constitution.

    We must follow principle and do what is right, which is impeach him - and then try him for war crimes.

    We must show future generations that a public servant can't get away with criminal behavior based on politics.

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  190. Anonymous9:25 PM

    clif said...
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    Hell look at what happened with Enron, five years from crime to trial, and Enron did not have the access Nixon would have in 1974.


    Yea. And it didn't stop the Federal Government from prosecuting the case to its fullest.

    Would the country be any better if Ken Lay had not been prosecuted? I don't know. But I know that it sent a strong message to these mega giant corporations that the people count more than their bottom line, and that they'll pay if they forget that.

    I think if the trial took 5 years than it should have taken 5 years.

    It should have taken as long as was necessary, to show the next guy running for President, that he is not ABOVE the law, a message Bush seems to be in dire need of learning.

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  191. Lydia said "Yes, I agree. Bush has committed treason with a capital T. He has committed war crimes. He has lied to the American people. He has broken the Constitution.

    We must follow principle and do what is right, which is impeach him - and then try him for war crimes.

    We must show future generations that a public servant can't get away with criminal behavior based on politics."

    Well good, maybe i'm not in the minority as much as I thought, I think its crucial to send a message to future wanna be dictators and megalomaniacs that Bush be held accountable and pay the price for his actions.

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  192. Anonymous9:31 PM

    Think about it. Which one of US would get off scott free for similar offeneses?

    So what if it takes more time and money to prosecute ex Presidents.

    Hell it takes more time and money for them to eat lunch than it does one of us normal folk. We don't normally get the room "swept" before entering.

    Unless its with a broom.

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  193. Anonymous9:31 PM

    But this is good. We should disagree on some stuff Clif.

    Thats how WE know we're not mindless automotons.

    :D

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  194. Mike it is LESS about forgiveness than the fact the country was already torn apart quite bad, and the Trail Of Nixon after he resigned would have prolonged that division and deepened it so that the neo-cons NOW would have just used that trial the way they use the investigations of both Watergate and Iran Contra.

    By the time Nixon had resigned, the Cheney Rumsfeld resentment against the limits of power had been formed.

    People like them and TINY here ignore the crimes to look at the semantics to spin.

    No trial would ever stop them...except for their own trial.

    Expecting that the current crop of neo-cons and their minions to be curtailed because of what ever happened to Nixon is not really the right analogy, because they deny Nixon's crimes and Poo Poo his resignation, power is all they ever see, and think they have enough to hide their crimes, thus ONLY their OWN crimes and trials will stop them, they are really like criminals, no matter how many bank robbers you arrest and imprison, somebody else tries it.

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  195. I think its MORE IMPORTANT for presidents to be held accountable, because being president is a sacred trust and responsibility and allowing him to break that trust with little or no consequences enboldens the next thug to do it with impunity like Bush has!

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  196. Anonymous9:37 PM

    Clif said...

    People like them and TINY here ignore the crimes to look at the semantics to spin.


    We certainly agree on that!

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  197. Clif I see what your saying but I disagree if Bush and Cheney thought they could be impeached and tried for treasons and war crimes for lying and misleading the nation into war, I think they might have thought twice if they realized they could be hanged or imprisoned for life for it instead of merely discredited but free to live the posh lives of multi millionaires bordering on billionaires.

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  198. Anonymous9:40 PM

    Even if it didn't act as a deterrent, it could have acted as a failsafe, by having the precedent already set to handle such situations.

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  199. Clif I think Bush and the Neo Cons have allready polarized and divided the country as much as possible, I think they arte banking on democrats being "nice" and showing no teeth, there are times you need to be the bigger person and move on and show forgiveness and there are times you need to take a stand and do the hard things to insure a better future, I just think this is one of those times as long as an impeachment and trial for treason and war crimes can be successful we need to make it happen.

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  200. Npot to mention it would be a step toward restoring our interrnational credibility.

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