Friday, November 17, 2006

DISARMING THE MADHOUSE

Bush should stay out of his mind; it's a bad neighborhood. Two articles I wrote on this administration, "BUSH'S LAST WILL AND TESTICLE" and "DEATH IS SEXIER THAN SEX (to Ann Coulter), will be reprinted here soon -- or you can find them in various news journals in the sidebar. The books HOW TO TALK TO ANN COULTER, IF YOU MUST ; BLOGGING WITH THE DEVIL and FALLING UP are in the pipeline, not necessarily in that order.



There are those who find themselves exiled
On whom the fortunes never smile
And upon whose lives the heartache has been piled - Jackson Browne "The Only Child"

Ran into several of my favorite people last night: the songwriter whose music changed my life, Jackson Browne — whose music is so beautiful it makes me weep, it actually hurts; Norman Lear (activist and creator of "All in the Family"), Brad Friedman of BradBlog.com and Greg Palast, author of the New York Times bestseller, “Armed Madhouse” (Penguin 2006), about the Bush administration. When Palast, an investigator of corporate fraud and racketeering, turned his skills to journalism, he was quickly recognized as, “The most important investigative reporter of our time” [Tribune Magazine] in Britain, where his first reports appeared on BBC television and in the Guardian newspapers. Palast is also the author of "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy", and is launching an even more crucial investigation into how the right wing steals elections by eliminating Blacks from the voter rolls, and sending them to Iraq. You will not believe how corrupt and anti-American these maniacs are, and the criminal tactics they use in voter registration. Please contribute to the Palast Investigative Fund, which employs a team of investigators all over the world, uncovering the neocons' dense maze of crimes and lies.

Also met Ed Rampell, the prolific journalist, critic and author of many books. His most recent is "Progressive Hollywood." With an introduction by Greg Palast, "Progressive Hollywood" features Rampell's interviews and interactions with Hollywood luminaries such as producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Robert Greenwald; actors Jack Nicholson, Rob Reiner, Mike Farrell, Ed Asner, Martin Sheen, David Clennon, Gore Vidal and Dennis Hopper; directors Michael Moore, Spike Lee, Oliver Stone and Lionel Chetwynd; blacklisted screenwriters Bernie Gordon (who initiated the 1999 protests against Elia Kazan's lifetime achievement Oscar), Bobby Lees (who injected dialectical materialism into Abbott and Costello comedies) and Norma Barzman (author of 2003's The Red and the Blacklist).


Jackson Browne looks so much like my brother, who died a few years ago, it's uncanny. Browne is also a great soul and activist for peace, the downtrodden, the environment and all good Democratic causes. His first album has a song called "Song For Adam", which is about a friend's suicide. After my brother died, I must have played this song 500 times. To this day, I believe Jackson Browne is the best songwriter alive. I love his album LATE FOR THE SKY. His mainstream hits are great, but I really love the songs that never got enough airplay, his hauntingly bittersweet melodies and lyrics mixed with violin, piano and acoustic guitar. Some of my favorites: "The Only Child"; "For A Dancer"; "Fountain of Sorrow", "Before the Deluge", "From SilverLake", "Looking Into You"; "These Days"; "Take It Easy"; "For Everyman" ... and of course "The Pretender"

Jackson Browne was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. He is highly respected for both his musical gifts and his integrity. He spends most of his time helping important social causes he believes in. As Bruce Springsteen put it during his speech at the Hall of Fame inductions: "Listen to the chord changes of 'Rock Me On the Water' and 'Before the Deluge,' it's gospel through and through. Now I always thought that... our job here on earth, the way we regain our divinity, our sacredness, and our general good-standing is by reconstructing love and creating love out of the broken pieces that we've been given. That's all we have of human promise. That's the way we prove ourselves in the eyes of God and facilitate our own redemption. Now, to me Jackson Browne's work was always the sound of that reconstruction." Thank you, Jackson, for a creating the soundtrack to our lives.

Lyrics to "Song for Adam"

Though Adam was a friend of mine, I did not know him well
He was alone into his distance
He was deep into his well
I could guess what he was laughing at, but I couldn't really tell
Now the story's told that Adam jumped, but I've been thinking that he fell

Together we went traveling, as we received the call
His destination India, and I had none at all
Well, I still remember laughing with our backs against the wall
So free of fear, we never thought that one of us might fall

I sit before my only candle, but it's so little light to find my way
Now this story unfolds before my candle
Which is shorter every hour as it reaches for the day
But I feel just like a candle in the way
I guess I'll get there, but I wouldn't say for sure

When we parted we were laughing still, as our goodbyes were said
And I never heard from him again as each our lives we led
Except for once in someone else's letter that I read
Until I heard the sudden word that a friend of mine was dead....

Listen to the lyrics of "The Only Child" --

Take good care of your brother
Let the disappointment pass,
Let the laughter fill your glass
Let your illusions last until they shatter...

Take good care of your mother
And remember to be kind
When the pain of another will serve to remind...
That there those who find themselves exiled
on whom the fortunes never smile
And upon whose lives the heartache has been piled...
They're just looking for another only child

And when you've found another soul
Who sees into your own
Take good care of each other
When you're thinking you're alone
Be aware of each other....
Take good care of each other

Check out his website and listen to some of his hits from various concerts: jacksonbrowne.com

I also love Loreena McKennitt "Book of Secrets" #8. It's a haunting Celtic ballad. We played it at our wedding in Malibu, filtered through the oak trees. Sometimes I feel that if you're part Welsh or Irish, as we are, you have Celtic music in your blood. That's why I love the LORD OF THE RINGS soundtrack so much.

448 comments:

  1. LYD!

    Running On Empty???? :-)

    Have a good one, hon.

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  2. Anonymous3:51 PM

    Howdee Carl.

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  3. I'm amazed this voting fraud hasnt been fixed in the 6 years since the allegations started. i'm sorry defrauding the democratic process and cheating/rigging elections should be considered treason and carry a MANDATORY 20 year sentence for EACH count, and that includes striking people from voter roles, sending out letters to scare them into not voting and setting up road blocks to stop them from getting to the voting precincts.

    A Mandatory 20 year sentence for EACH count would stop it real quick.

    As for Jackson Browne, they are cool, everytime my co-workers get together for our monthly poker game Jackson Browne is on the Radio, Runnin on Empty is the only song I KNOW the name of, but they have alot of great songs.

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  4. Stealth jet quietly slips into history

    F-117A fighter retired after 25 years
    Cutting-edge design cloaked in mystery

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  5. Hey Volt, i'm just curious, if the repug party fractured into two seperate partys with one being

    a Libertarian favoring small gov, that valued personal freedom and constitutional liberties over a police state that values safety over privacy and freedom, and cares about fiscal responsibility.

    and the second being a hardliner Neo Con that favors large deficits, agressive militarism and nation building, and prefers a large powerful goverment that monitors our personal affairs at the expense of freedom and privacy and no checks or balances or oversight on the executive branch which is essentially omnipotent.

    which branch would you support.

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  6. Anonymous5:53 PM

    Lilo and Stitch, ay?

    We'll alert the Academy.

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  7. Dolty boy hearts lilo.......

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  8. Oh, yeah ALL those songs and "Sleep's Dark and Silent Gate"; "Here Come Those Tears Again" , "Late for the Sky"

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  9. Republicans Prepare for Internal Fight
    After Two Big Losses, the Virginia Party's Ideological Divide Intensifies

    Laugh at Nancy Pelosi all you want fooles, this is the real headlines as the repugs begin attacking each other for not being "true" repugs.

    Enjoy the "NEW YEAR" and all the upcoming internal battles for the future of the repug party.

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  10. GOP Insider predicts Republican bloodbath --

    Bush "self-destructing"


    Tucked in to the bottom of an article in the New York Daily News about the Hoyer/Murtha election was this little tidbit:

    For all the focus on the Democrats, a former Bush official who predicts a coming bloodbath between the White House and disgruntled conservative Republicans brushed off the Pelosi-Hoyer tussle as much ado about process.

    "The Democrats are the sideshow," he said. "Bush self-destructing is the big story in town."


    The reporters, Tom DeFrank and Ken Bazinet, always have very, very good inside GOP sources.

    The GOP bloodbath will be great fun to watch. Let the games begin.

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  11. Josh Marshall's at TPM take on the upcoming Rudy's Run;

    Perhaps this is something of an existential question. But do we really have to pretend that Rudy Giuliani has more than a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Republican presidential nomination? Or can we all just stipulate that a multiple adulterer, who supports gay civil rights and choice, has deep and on-going ties to mobbed-up and now-disgraced Police boss Bernie Kerik, has a largely unscrutinized (outside of New York) resume, and had the bright idea of locating the NYC disaster center in the already-once-bombed World Trade Center probably will have some rough sledding in Republican primaries?


    -- Josh Marshall

    Looks like Rudy ain't gonna get what he wants in the summer of 08, let alone November 08.

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  12. What I love about Jackson Browne's music (not the mainstream hits as much) is his depth and compassion. He really understands human suffering.

    All great leaders must understand and empathize with the downtrodden, the hungering masses.

    We are all brothers.

    But most of all, it's the way Browne weaves his lyrics with melody.

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  13. Well Lyd, i'm just familiar with the more popular songs, and I guess I never knew Jackson Broene was a solo performer, but I checked out his site and listened to some of his songs and it took me back to a carefree time in my life, in fact anyone remember the tv show BJ and the Bear, the songs remind me of that show..............in fact I love to watch retro movie marathons on Holidays and since i'm on vacation for the next 11 days i'm gonna try to find me some BJ and the Bear DVD's LOL!

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  14. Hidee Ho kids!
    I see Clf is already scared of Rudy Giuliani,thats interesting.Lets see,John McCain or Giuliani,I think I'll take Rudy.Lets see Hillary or Giuliani,I think I'll take Rudy.

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  15. This Mike fellow must lead an exciting life,BJ and the bear along with retro movie marathons,be still my heart.

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  16. Not scared son, just POINTING out Rudy's record which WILL be used as campaign commercials by John McCain, George Romney, Newt Gingrich(though he might shy away from the adultery charges as he has quite a few problems there also).

    Rudy is simply too far left for the repug base.

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  17. Rudy stands as much chance of getting the nomination on the repug side as Zell Miller does for the Democrats.

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  18. how many sock puppets do you have Rusty?

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  19. One for each fantasy girlfriend he uses them for when he is NOT here.

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  20. a fool said "This Mike fellow must lead an exciting life,BJ and the bear along with retro movie marathons,be still my heart."

    Well punk taking one day out of an 11 day day vacation to remember a carefree time in my youth sure beats being a pathetic blog troll almost EVERY day!

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  21. As for fantisizing about Rudy two years from now, well it least you REALIZE you lost BIGTIME and are thinking lonterm too bad for you instead of REALLY thinking longterm you are just daydreaming about vindication thatr will never come from the drubbing you clowns took, your party cut its own throat, America is Fed up with the lies BS a and corruption, unless the dems REALLY screw up the repugs are done for a generation.

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  22. Mike - did you say BJ and the Bear? I never watched that show, but I did a celeb signing with the lead actor Greg Evigan at the Riviera in Vegas once.

    I just posted the lyrics to Jackson Browne's song ADAM. Please download that song and really listen to it. And all the others I listed.

    Also Loreena McKennitt, the Celtic singer I just posted.

    xo

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  23. Bush will self destruct in the next two years.

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  25. Never watched BJ and the Bear????, it was a cool show,

    I was poking around Jackson Browne's site, he does have some great Lyrics, i'll check out the song Adam tomorrow, maybe i'll pick up some Cd's and DVd's of BOTH this week, I love classic rock and all the old songs from the 70's and early 80's........They were CONSTANTLY playing Jackson Browne and Pat Bennatar on BJ and The Bear...............I know Worf will remember it.

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  26. Change sockpuppets Rusty/Mr Mackey et al.........

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  27. you wanna come over too for BJ and The Bear and some turkey Rusty?

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  28. and I can put a stake through your heart and after I cap you with a silver bullet!

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  29. You think your real cute Jarod.

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  30. I am laughing so hard I fell off my chair. The conversation between Sybil and Mike (the seven faces of Rusty-mackey-moo moo/Sybil) is so ridiculously silly, I had to run out of the room

    You guys are very funny. You need your own sitcom.

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  31. Rusty, fans from as far as Estonia, China, Iceland and Greenland actually buy these "20-year-old" vintage photos. Our show is a big hit in Germany by the way.

    And for some reason the 80's are back in a big way, so yes I sell these and donate the proceeds to charity.

    But thank you for asking.

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  32. Game for what? If you're in the audience you better not shoot me.

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  33. how come the show has never been shown here since it went off the air?

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  34. you a programmer?

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  35. Loreena McKennitt is one of the finest, albeit least appreciated, musical artists ever to perform.

    Her music is often the result of many years of research. Her crystalline pure voice lilting above intricate rhythmic patterns, embody a hauntingly perfect blend of Celtic and Middle Eastern influences.

    Ironically her beautiful songs, which provide a glimpse into ancient tales of mystery, may often be found in the "New Age" section of the music store. Her biggest commercial hit was "Mummer's Dance" which was remixed with heavier percussion to be more popular with radio audiences.

    Ms. Cornell, while your politics are woefully misguided, your musical tastes exquisite.

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  36. I thought of you when she posted that FF, I remember you had said that almost a year ago.

    BTW, i'm kind a curious, would you mind answering the same question I asked Volt near the top of the blog.

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  37. FF - thank you. I really appreciate your musical sensibilities too. Yes, Mummer's Dance is beautiful too.

    Rusty, you mean you work in Vegas? Are you saying you are not Moo Moo?

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  38. Volt did a fine job of answering your question, Mike. I concur.

    Bloated, corrupt, intrusive government is a trademark of the democrat party. The Republicans lost the last election because they lost their Conservative principles, so they lost the confidence and the votes of their base.

    The famous economist, writer, and my mentor, Milton Friedman passed away yesterday. We have lost the inimitable talents of one of the greatest Americans ever to articulate the essence of America's Conservative foundation.

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  39. So you agree that the Bush administration and former repug congress is not fiscally responsible, supports large government and prefers a large powerful goverment that monitors our personal affairs at the expense of freedom and privacy and no checks or balances or oversight on the executive branch which is essentially omnipotent. they also support aggressive militarism and nation building which to me seem in direct opposition to tax cuts.....................so what i'm wondering is why you guys supported them so vehemently over the last year when they basically spit on classic conservative and Libertarian core principles.

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  40. I support Republicans to the extent they embrace Conservative values. To the extent they don't they are really dhimmicrats in drag, and they can kiss my perky ass.

    Dhimmicrats like hillary must pretend to be Conservatives so they can get elected. However, these politicians are betrayed by their enthusiastic support from victocrats, socialists and leftist America-haters who understand what they really believe.

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  41. Mike, the reason TCFC is not on here anymore (it was on Nick at Nite and E-Channel on and off for several years) is because Don Taffner, who owns Three's Company and Benny Hill (Thames Television) won't sell it to the American TV market. He wants to make a killing on the DVD release I suppose.

    Who knows? One thing: TCFC is too racy for Nick at Night because Ted Knight and Nancy sleep in the same bed, are in love, and we have very advanced shows that are a little too racy for fundamentalist audiences today. I know this makes no sense in light of all the reality Tv and paris Hilton soft-core stuff, but our show really explored some progressive issues.

    Basically, it's all about how they can make the most money though.

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  42. Rusty, what about CHRISTS Sermon on the Mount (the "Blesseds"/ the Beatitudes)

    The Ten Commandments are fine, but they are only half. Without Christ's message of love and forgiveness, there is no Christianity. Mosaic law was fundamentalist and all about the "thou shalt nots"

    What's wrong with fundamentalism today is they leave out the Christ. "The Christ" is the office of Jesus, the Christ. He came to bring the new law: love your neighbor as yourself, bless your enemies, bless those who persecute you... and you will see miracles. And mainly, GOD IS WITHIN YOU, not outside of you.

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  43. Anonymous11:56 PM

    I doubt ole crusty rusty is moo moo. He's said where he works many times and invited people there. Most likely hes a pit boss or some kind of security or bouncer. He might even be some kind of mobster. Who knows? But moo moo is in Canada, with Lydia's husbands ex.

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  44. Anonymous11:58 PM

    Lydia Cornell said...
    And mainly, GOD IS WITHIN YOU, not outside of you.


    Actually the he said the Kingdom of Heaven is within you, but I get your meaning.

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  45. Anonymous12:00 AM

    Lydia Cornell said...
    So is Moo Moo Clippy?


    Who knows? It seems like it, and rusty seems like a moo moo, but rusty's too open about where he works and such. He also has invited you to his casino, so he must work there. I'm betting pit boss. Or he could be a dealer.

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  46. Rusty and FF -- one more thing. Over and over in Christ's teaching he says: PERFECT LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR.

    If you are living in fear or worry, you are not obeying God, for God is love. God (love) casts out fear.

    So how can you "bomb the shit out of Iraq" out of fear they may someday hurt you?

    How can you retaliate and create worldwide fear and war based on a few terrorists bombing the World Trade Center? No country called Iraq attacked us!

    Why create war out of generalized fear? It's criminal and it breaks God's laws.

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  47. Anonymous12:01 AM

    Maybe he's a vegas showgirl.

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  48. Anonymous12:03 AM

    Custy the Clown said...

    Compassionate Conservative is a stupid term,who ever coined it should be hung by their thumbs.

    Uhhh, that would be Karl Rove.

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  49. Anonymous12:03 AM

    Rusty is Crusty

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  50. Anonymous12:08 AM

    Men like Crusty are always going to chose killing Lydia. I don't understand it, but its war they love. When their is no war, they create it.

    They love war, until they're in one.

    We're not in a war yet. Iraq is a military occupation, nothing more. When we're in a war we'll know it.

    And when that happens, when we have to fight armies equal or greater in size and resources and technology, to our own, then we'll all want to play nice again.

    Only this time, it might be too late.

    This time, our firepower might just outweigh our brainpower.

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  51. Rusty is also Wufuss dufuss, he let that slip one day.

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  52. God is the force of love within all of us. If God is the sun, we are the rays. God (the Kingdom of heaven) is within us, all of us. "Is it not written ... ye are gods?" (John) We reflect God, we are animated by spirit.

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  53. "PERFECT LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR."

    Ms. Cornell, folks have many emotions. Sometimes love is appropriate, sometimes fear.

    Conservatives want Iraq to cast out the insurgents, become a democracy and prosper.

    Narcissistic liberals want us to immediately pull out and leave the good Iraqis to be consumed by the wolves, and possibly be taken over by Iran.

    Germany is nice tour of duty, but our troops belong in Iraq as long as the Iraqi people want us to stay.

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  54. Anonymous12:11 AM

    Crusty the Clown said...

    If we walk away you can kiss the mideast good bye and Israel along with it.Is that what you libs want?


    No.

    Thats why we told you idiots not to go. Remember the word "quagmire" genius?

    Yea. You know. The one you heard about 7500 times between February 03 and March 03. The one we told you you'd be in if you went ahead with your lone wolf war.

    But you wouldn't listen. You mighty warriors who've never seen war, knew better than everyone else.

    Well look at you now.

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  55. Anonymous12:14 AM

    Oh crusty blow it out your ear. The nut in Iran has more American education than you you feckless thug.

    You're so afraid of him move to the Swiss Alps and become a nun.

    As for me, I think the day that guy is a threat to us, is the day we back him into a corner, and not a day earlier.

    You big chickenshit.

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  56. Like the Alanon program, disengage, remove ourselves and the babies have to walk on their own; People always rise to the occasion when you let go. The minute we leave, there will be a growing pain, strife, but it will all even out. They will emerge a new nation with their own new leaders, like it or not. If we stay, the cost is too high. Needless deaths.

    We have to give up our imperialistic desperation for oil and power bases.

    But since James Baker is the Saudi's chief attorney, and has his own office in the White House, this whole mess is much more complicated.

    Too bad we aren't focusing on creating our own energy at home.

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  57. Rusty it is already done but you do NOT really understand global strategy in the middle east, Iran Played Bush like a cheap banjo in Iraq, and now the Shiites are going after the Sunni's with a vengence, just before the US militaries final push, ..Once that fails, it will be all out WAR between the Sunni's and Shiites for control, but Maliki and the Shiites got the US military to destroy much of the Sunni resistance.

    Our supply lines are too long to remain stable in a full out civil war, because BOTH sides would attack fort supplies for their side, and to deny the US the ability to affect the outcome.

    The Battle for Baghdad is ONLY the beginning of the Civil War because the real prise is the areas to the east and south of Baghdad where the Shiites and Sunnis were mixed. The other regional players Iran and Syria on the Shiite side, and Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey on the Sunni side will increase their support for those they back, which actually places Washington in the curious position of backing the side which is against the rest of our allies in the region, and supporting the Shiites until Iran steps directly into the fray.

    At that point expect a total meltdown with the American Military fighting to control the MSR's just to keep supplies flowing into the theater. The central government will be the first casualty, and even at this point is breaking up on sectarian lines.

    And there is NO way 140,000 troops who are on their THIRD deployment will have much affect if the two sides decide to go for broke and the Civil war explodes.

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  58. Anonymous12:19 AM

    Rusty Shackelford said...
    As usual wufuss,you have a flowery comment but never an idea for a solution.Your so common.


    As usual idiots like you make a mess, and then expect smart people to come in and fix your mess.

    Why is it the Liberals problem?

    Its your mess. And you can't clean it up.

    And you know why? Cause sometimes in life, when you go against all logical men and their advice, and do the thing they told you not to do, sometimes the end result they told you is all you've got left.

    As much as you want to make lemonade out of your lemon, it just may be too late for that.

    Remember when you were a kid, and your dad told you not to drive your big wheel off the back porch roof, or it would be broken and so would you? But you just had to do it anyway. So you learn to live with a cast, and you toss the broken big wheel in the trash and save up to buy a new one. Why?

    Because you were too stupid to listen to someone smarter than you.

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  59. Rusty, Tell me, why do so many red-state tourists, grandmothers, and prudes visit Vegas? How can they stand the naked billboards? I am horrifiied to let my children see women in G-strings walking around.

    I saw a family from Kentucky, with 7-year-old children, all dressed in prim and proper church clothes, posing for photos in front of the "Crazy Girls" naked butt sculpture. It was a scene out of a Fellini movie.

    So what do you think of strip clubs? How can you work in Vegas and not be jaded by all the flesh? You sound kind of normal-ish.

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  60. Iraq Turns Up The Heat

    By now, anyone with a lick of sense can see that the war in Iraq has been a dead-loss. Still, few people understand how it has disrupted the region’s strategic balance and is quickening America’s decline as a world power.

    The US is already facing fierce headwinds in the near future with the deflating housing market, the falling dollar, and the growing prospects of a deep recession. A sudden realignment in the Middle East would be a major hit to the American economy. Even so, it’s looking more and more like big changes are on the way.

    The problem is that American power is waning just as Iran’s is ascendant. This doesn’t bode well for the “Great Satan” whose economy relies on dependable sources of cheap oil.

    Iran is playing a clever game in Iraq using US occupation forces to crush the Ba’athist-led resistance while expanding their influence via the Shiite militias. This is a “lose-lose” situation for the United States. American troops must continue to focus on one enemy while they inadvertently strengthen the other. How long will it be before the Bush administration sees that they’ve been supporting the very group which is most hostile to American interests?

    The smarter strategy would have been to replace Saddam but leave the Ba’ath Party in power. That way civil services and government bureaucracy could have continued without radical changes to the entire system. The Bush plan was the fast-track to anarchy, a phenomenon which now grips the entire country. Undoubtedly, the veteran-diplomats in James Baker’s “Iraq Study Group” will want to engage the leaders of the Iraqi resistance as a last-ditch effort to cobble together a coalition government and stem the violence. But time is running out.

    The mass kidnapping of 150 employees at the Education Ministry shows that the Shiite militias in the Interior Ministry are getting more brazen by the day. The gunmen stormed the building in broad daylight wearing government-issue uniforms and abducted their victims without a struggle. Prime Minister al-Maliki offered a feeble defense of the kidnappers saying that it was “not an act of terrorism” but merely a dispute between competing militias.

    Al-Maliki has clearly cast his lot with his Shiite base.

    While the militias do not take their orders directly from Tehran, it’s clear that there’s a tacit agreement between the two and their objectives are nearly identical. Both are determined to defeat the Sunni-led resistance so that the Ba’ath Party can never return to power. The mass abductions show that they are moving as quickly as possible to execute their strategy.

    The US military has fallen into a trap and is (unwittingly) helping Iran expand its influence. In fact, Bush’s plan to increase troop-strength by 20,000 in Baghdad just makes it easier for the militias to operate. The heavy American presence on the streets and checkpoints forces the Sunni resistance to remain underground while the Shiite militias conduct their round-ups and raids with complete impunity. It’s no wonder they’ve stepped up operations in recent weeks. The talk of an American withdrawal following the midterms has only increased their determination to crush the resistance while American troops still provide cover.

    Who could have imagined that US forces would be acting as security guards for Iranian-backed militias?

    In fact, members of the Iranian political establishment like Pirouz Mojtahedzadeh are now openly calling “for the US to REMAIN in Iraq until it has established a strong, stable central government capable of providing adequate security.” (Kim Murphy LA Times)

    Of course, Iranians have to be discreet in their support for the ongoing occupation, but the truth is obvious; Bush is laying the groundwork for a fundamentalist regime in Baghdad by quashing the secular, Ba’athist-backed resistance.

    Does Bush really believe he can control a Shiite-dominated government? Or does he really understand what’s going on?

    Can’t he see that the US-Shiite alliance is simply a “marriage of convenience” that will end as soon as the Sunnis are sufficiently weakened and there is no longer a threat of them returning to power?

    The Baker group was formed as a last-gasp attempt to avert the greatest foreign policy train-wreck in American history. It’s no surprise that Bush and Israeli PM Olmert decided to conduct their high-level meetings on the same day that the Iraq Study Group met in the Oval Office. It was clearly meant to subvert Baker’s impact on the news-cycle. As soon as Bush had used Baker as a prop for his public relations photo-op (showing Bush’s “openness to new ideas”) the ex-diplomats were bundled out the servants’ exit so Bush could put the final touches on the plans for bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities.

    The whole event was perfectly choreographed to marginalize Baker and undermine the group’s recommendations.

    This just proves that Bush’s throttling in the midterm elections has had no effect whatsoever. He’s still firmly in Cheney’s clutches and edging ever-closer to Armageddon. There’s no indication that anything substantial has changed.

    Cheney’s approach is fundamentally flawed. It will take more than laser-guided munitions or “bunker busting” bombs to beat Iran. In fact, that will only speed up America’s inevitable withdrawal from Iraq. Even if half of Iran is buried beneath glowing-nuclear rubble, they still have the wherewithal to take out every oil tanker, every oil field, every oil depot, every oil-platform, and every oil pipeline in the entire gulf region. How long will America’s teetering economy persist with its Middle East arteries slashed and oil futures shooting through the stratosphere.

    Then, of course, Iran has the option of smuggling high-tech weaponry, anti-tank missiles and the whole array of military hardware into Iraq, where they can swiftly cut off supply-lines, wreak havoc across the country, and force an American retreat.

    A war against Iran is a foolhardy scheme that has no chance of succeeding.

    Communiqué connects Iran to Iraqi Militias

    A chilling communiqué from the Shiite-led “Badr Brigade” has appeared in Alliraqnews. The message warns of an agreement between the Sunnis and the “Anglo-American occupation forces” which threatens the continued dominance of the Shiite-led government. Leaders from the Badr Brigade” intend to intensify their attacks on all “public offices and institutions”, to “neutralize the activities of journalists, media and intellectuals”, to undermine “any attempt to rebuild the Iraqi army”, and prepare for “an armed confrontation” with the enemy.

    The message calls on all Shiites, including employees in the “Ministry of Defense and Interior Ministry to join the Badr Brigade, the Mahdi Army, and the Al-Dawa Party, to continue stealing weapons and equipment” to get ready for the conflagration.

    The communiqué adds ominously: “The government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, providing us with all weapons and equipment for the battle, as well as the preparations of troops from the Revolutionary Guards for rapid intervention near the border areas.”

    The message is signed by the Secretary-General Badr Organization.

    Whether the communiqué is authentic or not is almost irrelevant. The blueprint is indistinguishable from the pattern of activity on the ground. The militias are using the occupation to strengthen their base and ready themselves for the inevitable confrontation with US forces. Behind the scenes, Iran is patiently waiting for America’s hourglass to run out of sand.

    Prime Minister Al-Maliki has aligned himself with the main Shiite militias. He has issued a warrant for Harith al-Dhari, the head of Iraq’s prestigious Association of Muslim Scholars, on the charges of “inciting violence and terrorism among the Iraqi people”. It is a baseless claim intended to drive the Sunnis to out of the government and set the stage for a Shiite dominated-regime.

    The Sunnis have left according to plan. There will be no coalition government and civil war is all but certain. The bloodbath has just begun.

    Bush has opened Pandora’s Box and there’ll be a terrible price to pay. He has allowed Iran to take root in Baghdad and upset the regional balance of power. Now, there really are no easy solutions. The only question is whether the impending holocaust is containable or if it will consume the entire region.

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  61. Anonymous12:21 AM

    As you good ole boys like to say, that horse may have already left the barn.

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  62. We have to give up our imperialistic desperation for oil and power bases.
    -Lydia Cornell

    We have no imperialistic designs on Iraq. Everyone would love to leave as soon as it is possible to do so without creating a disaster. Everyone would also love to free of dependence upon foreign oil. Yet Libs will not allow drilling off our own coasts or even in ANWAR, one the most desolate places in the world.

    Too bad we aren't focusing on creating our own energy at home.
    -Lydia Cornell

    Thankfully California's prop 87 failed despite the enthusiastic support from algore and bill clinton. Innovation comes from the private sector not government bureaucrats. Conservatives trust the free market whereas libs worship government, notwithstanding its record of failure to economically provide goods and services.

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  63. Rusty Shackelford said...

    Wuffy,thank you for making my point,you have nothing to say except "I told you."



    Rusty, in 1945 that was all the German people who did not want Hitler to attack Poland could say also....

    you might make FUN of what I KNOW, but what is happening NOW is what I said last spring would happen.

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  64. So Rusty, you're saying STAY THE CURSE until we've lost every soldier? It's like feeding the beast; he will never be satiated because we are not operating on principle. It's all style over substance.

    The underlying principle is let people govern themselves, and let the chips fall where they may. We must withdraw completely.

    We are not wanted there.

    If you believe in God, let God correct the course. There is a divine principle in the universe and it will correct the course of destruction.

    Staying is wrong in every way, and is against the course of nature, LIFE.

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  65. Let go and let God.
    Cease fighting everyone and everything.
    That's when miracles happen.

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  66. Anonymous12:31 AM

    cRusty Shackelford said...
    Actually Las Vegas away from the strip and downtown is not a bad place to live and raise a family.


    Yea.

    A crime family.

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  67. It is way too late to try for a victory in Iraq, because the Shiites there have almost what THEY want, so they will begin to go after the Sunni's and force them OUT of the Iraqi Government, and begin to stabilize their territory, while going after the areas they feel they need once Iraq breaks up, and they will have IRANS backing at that point, what do YOU suggest Bush do at this point, Turn 180, and begin to back the Sunni's against the Shiites, or keep giving the Shiites cover for their designs.

    the country IS breaking UP because they DO not want to be in ONE country together anymore, this summer when Bush ET Al were saying Iraq was stabilizing and ignoring the rising violence destroyed any possibility of the separate sects of Iraq remaining in a single country just as Yugoslavia did in the early 1990's Iraq is breaking up because of the Violence which followed the down fall of Saddam.

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  68. The country IS broke, and we can no longer put it back together any more.

    They want to fight over who controls what, and we are reduced to refereeing the civil war, or getting OUT of the way.

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  69. Sorry Rusty Freedom Fan, Voltron, the war is LOST because the people ON the ground NO longer want OUR version of their country.

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  70. Let go and let God. Cease fighting everyone and everything. That's when miracles happen.
    -Lydia Cornell

    Miracles happen when people use their God-given talents to make them happen.

    Sometimes force is necessary. If everyone did not believe that, then we could disband our military, our police, destroy all our weapons and open our prisons.

    We may disagree on where to use force, but to pretend it is never necessary is ludicrous.

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  71. The baker group might have been able to save the country if they assembled in early 2004 and then were allowed to dictate policy, but the hubris and stubbornness of both Bush and Rumsfeld doomed this fiasco.

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  72. The Iranians KNOW that we no longer can reassemble the country of IRAQ, so they are simply biding their time until they get to negotiate with the Shiite territory of the Former country of Iraq. The Sunni's will be stuck out in Anbar province and what they can HOLD around Baghdad, with the Kurds up North fighting off both the Turks and Iranians to keep the Kurdish populations of both countries subjugated.

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  73. In Vietnam parlance we are in 1971-1972 time period, but Bush and the pentagon do NOT admit the Shiites do NOT want a stable democracy that includes the Sunni's anymore. And the Shiites are willing to GIVE the Kurds their territory to

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  74. Sorry Rusty Freedom Fan, Voltron, the war is LOST because the people ON the ground NO longer want OUR version of their country.
    -Clif

    Yes, please persuade all your democrat Presidential contenders to lead with that one: We concede defeat in Iraq. Vote for us.

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  75. I hope WE don't become as vicious towards each other as the Sunnis and Shiites.

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  76. Foole it is NOT conceding defeat, it is what is happening ON the ground, We do not control Anbar province, and any other Sunni territory. The Shiites are forcing the Sunni's OUT of the Government, and will have MORE "police" sponsored Kidnappings of Sunni's to force them to MOVE away.

    Keep the delusional thinking we have some magic plan to reassemble the country, and make the Sunni's and Shiites to become friends and want to remain in ONE country together,

    If that can NOT be done, the WAR to create a democracy inside the country of IRAQ is lost, the country will break UP into three sectarian sections based on the three major sects.

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  77. Anonymous12:51 AM

    Actually I disagree Clif. The war is not lost. Because in order for the war to be lost, we'd have to be in a war. We're not. Our occupation of Iraq (occupation is what everyone in the world but us call it) has proven unsuccessful, as the Iraqi people have shown they have a mind of their owns.

    Imagine that.

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  78. Lydia, that will only happen IF a section of the country see themselves as the ONLY voice of GOD and the rest of us Heretics.

    Which is NOT outside of the realm of possibilities, given the desire of some on the far right to continuously demonise everything they disagree with.

    People LIKE Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Riely.......who are NOT honest nor accept a large majority of the people of this country as real American Patriots.

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  79. Anonymous12:55 AM

    But the war we're supposed to be fighting, is the war on terror, whatever the hell that means. Personally I think its a Stupid name with a capital S. War on terror. The best way to fight the war on terror is to arrest terrorists.

    Period.

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  80. Anonymous12:55 AM

    Not by creating more of them.

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  81. Worfeus the "war" is lost, but Bush has NOT given UP on his vision, just as Nixon could not give up, so the worst is yet to come.

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  82. Anonymous12:57 AM

    War on terror. What a stupid name.

    Makes us look like fools.

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  83. Far more people were killed in Vietnam after 1968 than before......and BY 1968, the pentagon admitted they could not "win" with the strategy Westmoreland was using.

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  84. Anonymous1:03 AM

    Sorry Clif, I just don't see Iraq as a war. I'm not belittling it, its just that war usually means two countries have mutually declared war on each other.

    We invaded Iraq. Now we are occupying them. They are rebelling against it. Who really expected them to do otherwise? Anyway I see Iraq as an invasion, and occupation of a foriegn nation that has not declared war on us, nor is there a uniformed army fighting us enmasse like they did in Viet Nam. We are occupying Iraq like the Nazi's occupied Poland, and just like the Polish resistance the Iraqi's are killing their occupiers and their own people that support their occupiers, and with whatever means is available to them.

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  85. Anonymous1:04 AM

    War is what we're going to have if we keep pissing off the rest of the world.

    Right now, the only thing George W Bush and his policies are helping us acheive is rogue nation status.

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  86. Worfeus, it is a war, because the Shiites in Both Iraq, and Iran thru Chalibi out maneuvered Cheney and Bush and got them to destroy Saddam and the Baathists, something they could NEVER do on their own. they have been fighting to gain control of the majority of the country NOT occupied by the Kurds leaving the Sunni's out west in the desolate regions there.

    the Shiites are beginning to set themselves UP for the first battle's they fight, they have gotten Bush Et Al to fight the first two, Topple Saddam, and destroy the Sunni-Baathist dominance in the country.

    NOW they want to push the Sunni's out of the areas south and east of Baghdad, and establish dominance over that region which includes all ports on the Persian Gulf where the vast majority of Iraqi oil is exported.

    This has been a War but fought by different people for different goals, and since the Shiites have been the MOST successful at achieving their goals they have WON.

    Since the Shiites are natural allies of IRAN, their Victory is also a victory by Iran, which means BUSH lost.

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  87. To realize the reason I say the Shiites have already won, YOU need to understand the Vietnamese War was decided in 1968 during TET.

    After that all that was being decided was HOW soon we would leave, and when we no longer would pay the bill for Saigon, which was all the North needed to reunify the country.

    Tet proved that everything we had done up to that point did very little to impact the ability of the Vietcong to attack when and where they choose.

    And since Johnson had been saying we were winning TET destroyed that MYTH, which set the stage for the disillusion for the majority of Americans to continue the war. But Nixon could NOT accept that fact so he tried "peace with honor" which was doomed to failure unless we were willing to fund the Vietnamese government in Saigon at a higher rate than we fund Israel right now.

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  88. With OUT the American army and the Green zone it provides there would be NO Iraqi government just militias which were fighting for control of the divided portions of provinces, and ending up where it probably will anyway, Three separate states, which are much weaker and far less stable than Iraq under Saddam was.

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  89. Mike, tell us why you are so in favor of the Fairness Doctrine. Is it because you think that all anti-terrorist messages should countered with pro-terrorist messages, you know, just to be fair.

    Do you really think the Fairness Doctrine promotes true freedom of speech, or does it just regulate political speech even more. If you are against McCain-Feingold, why would you favor the Fairness Doctrine?

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  90. The Slapdown of Polarization
    With Democrats now equal partners in power, Bush seems ready to turn the equation to his advantage.
    By Eleanor Clift
    Newsweek
    Updated: 11:59 a.m. MT Nov 10, 2006
    Nov. 10, 2006 -

    Republican pollster Neil Newhouse knew the day his party lost the Senate. It was Sept. 29, and he circled it on his calendar. That was the morning excerpts from Bob Woodard’s book “State of Denial” broke, chronicling an administration in disarray that was not being truthful with the American people about how bad things were in Iraq.

    That same day, a congressional committee issued a report documenting 400-plus contacts between indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the White House, and Republican congressman Mark Foley resigned after revelations that he had pursued underage congressional pages.

    Newhouse said the date is “burned in my mind” just like another date in another era—Oct. 19, 1982—when unemployment hit 10.1 percent and signaled big losses in Congress for the GOP and President Reagan. These catalytic events have the impact of freezing the electorate, Newhouse told an audience gathered for post-election analysis at the nonpartisan Israel Project in Washington. “We just couldn’t move the numbers,” he said, despite a mountain of negative advertising, which another panelist, Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence Page, termed "PHD," a term of art for mud-slinging “piled high and deep.”

    The breadth of the Republican defeat is a long overdue slapdown of Karl Rove’s politics of polarization. Democrats did well across the country, holding their own for the first time in the post-9/11 era with white men and, according to some exit poll estimates, getting close to a third of the evangelical vote. President Bush in his morning-after news conference struck a conciliatory tone, suggesting “common ground” with the Democrats on raising the minimum wage. This wasn’t his first rodeo, he said, implying he knows how to take a fall and get back up.

    Bush appears ready to trade in six years of hard-right governance for two years of conciliatory conservatism. It’s always been an open question what Bush actually believes in, beyond winning. He became president by campaigning as a compassionate conservative but junked that persona on Rove’s recommendation once he took office. According to the new book, “Building Red America,” by former Washington Post reporter Thomas Edsall, Rove acted on the advice of pollster Matthew Dowd, who found that the 2000 vote recount had so polarized the electorate there were too few swing voters left on which to base a centrist governing strategy.

    Rallying the base with red-meat rhetoric and policies to match became the governing philosophy of the Bush presidency. The strategy imploded with this election, and Dowd is now doing interviews advocating bipartisanship in his role as Arnold Schwarzenegger’s adviser. Schwarzenegger won re-election with a 17-point margin after moderating his image, hiring a Democrat as his chief of staff and promising not to call Democrats “girly men” any more. For Dowd, a highly regarded analyst, these shifting strands of advice are just another day at the office. For Bush and the country, the politics of polarization has had tragic consequences.

    It’s not too late for Bush to revert to the Texas model of working with Democrats that served him so well. Before Bush came to Washington and fell under the spell of the neocons, he wasn’t tethered to right-wing ideology. He was molded by Rove and shaped by the intense competitiveness instilled in him by his family. He and Rove have an ongoing contest as to who can read more books this year. “I’m losing,” Bush told reporters, taking a jab at Rove, “Obviously I worked harder on the campaign trail than he did.” Now that Bush has more time, he should add to his reading list Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book on the “Team of Rivals” that Lincoln put together to win the Civil War.

    Democrats are equal partners in power, an equation Bush can turn to his advantage. He has a vested interest in working with congressional leaders to share the burden of Iraq and to find agreement on some domestic issues. Bush can learn from the way President Clinton charted his comeback after the Democrats’ loss of Congress in 1994. Clinton “triangulated,” joining with the Republicans to pass welfare reform and a balanced budget and distancing himself from the old-line liberal Democrats. Clinton cared more about his legacy than any bond with congressional Democrats. One-party rule hadn’t worked for him anyway; the Democratic-controlled Congress never even gave his wife’s health-care plan a vote.

    Clinton found a kindred spirit in Speaker Newt Gingrich. The two men became so enamored of each other’s brilliance and grasp of the big picture that monitors were assigned on each side. Majority leader Dick Armey, who was there to rein in Newt’s enthusiasms, recalls Vice President Al Gore, acting as a check on Clinton, physically restraining the president from giving away too much to his negotiating partner.

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  91. Anonymous11:12 AM

    You mean like you?

    Praying on peoples greed for a living?

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  92. Anonymous11:15 AM

    Yea, thats a real patriotic calling you've got there.

    Making a living off the vices of others.

    Your family should be proud.

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  93. You guys have way too much time on your hands scouring web sites looking for articles that agree with you. Do you just discard any opposing view?
    -rusty shackleford

    Actually that's exactly what libs do. For example, the most popular cable TV show last Wednesday evening was on CNN -- Glen Beck's Exposed: The Extremist Agenda. Undoubtedly few libs here and elsewhere ever dared to watch this show because it demonstrates the threat posed by radical Islam. The video exposes how the mainstream media is silent with regard to the diet of hatred being constantly fed by our enemies to their children, shouted to the Muslim masses by their religious leaders, and how Iran's lunatic president is itching for the chance to use a nuclear weapon on the Great Satan -- us.

    Watching this, would shatter the lib world view that the greatest threat to the world is posed by George Bush and his Christian fundmentalist minions who have the audacity to oppose gay marriage, so they just don't watch it. But they are very good at making up excuses why watching such "right-wing" propaganda is worthless.

    As another example, witness the deafening silence from libs with regard to one of their biggest outrages a couple weeks ago: how any election in which dhimmicrats are defeated are obviously "stolen" by the corrupt folks at Diebold. Libs just make up conspiracy theories and eagerly embrace any belief as long as it is in harmony with their pseudo religion of liberalism.

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  94. rusty said "Eleanor Clift,now theres a real nonpartisan view. You guys have way too much time on your hands scouring web sites looking for articles that agree with you.Do you just discard any opposing view?
    Instead of wasting your time like this why dont you do some work,help keep americas economic engine running."

    And I suppose "YOUR" views are non partisan and non biased huh Rusty, I'd like to know who appointed you GOD and said YOU get to decide what views and policies are right for this country and what is a waste of time for others. You fools want a police sate where you monitor EVERYTHING and get to decide What is right for EVERYONE.

    BTW RUSTY are you saying you DONT Discard the opposing view, LMAO, thats what you just did genius, anyone who doesnt agree with your biased view of the world is biased, a crackpot or a disgruntled employee defending your position is easy when you just discredit and attack any source or position that doesnt agree with you.

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  95. who says there wasnt election fraud FF, you guys can only STRAL an election if its reasonably close if its a landslide or a "thumping" as GWB said the little scams and frauds cant make enough of a difference and you lost BIG TIME! America said they are sick and tired of the Neo Con BS!

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  96. Anonymous11:37 AM

    Glen Beck?

    That peice of shit?

    And you guys are complaining about Eleanor Clift?

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  97. Anonymous12:38 PM

    Rusty Shackelford said...


    What do you consider the 20 or so million people that vist Las Vegas each year? Lost souls? Greedy? Immoral? Stupid?


    And that negates your role in feeding off of their vices how?

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  98. Anonymous12:39 PM

    If a fool walks down the street with his money hanging out of his pants, does the person who takes the money somehow escape their own guilt?

    If a fool leaves his keys in his car, is the car thief somehow not guilty of grand theft auto?

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  99. Anonymous12:54 PM

    Gambling is a vice.


    Gambling breaks up families and destroys lives. Gambling is a leading contributor to suicides.

    Gambling is one of the oldest sins there is.

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  100. Glen Beck is CNN's version of Rush Limpballs.

    He reports HIS opinion, NOT news.

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  101. CNN Headline "news" has stooped to Nancy Grace and Glen Beck, NOT to report the news, but COMMENT on it, which makes then opinion not fact shows.

    Both are a bit extreme right, and outside the mainstream of the US electorate.

    All CNN has done is to try to capitalize on the Fox style of opinionated news, with a reichwing slant, but that idea is losing viewers, as O'Liely's ratings shows.

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  102. Anonymous1:12 PM

    Glen Beck? That smug little prick?

    He talks like he knows everything, and he knows absolutely nothing.

    You have to be a real asshole to like an asshole like Glen Beck.

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  103. Dolt it does NOT matter where YOU get you misinformation....because you will always be an idiot.

    It is what YOU do moron, hate and spew idiotic comments, kind of what bigoted morons have done through out history.

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  104. Anonymous1:13 PM

    I mean come on Voltron, FF. Have you looked at the people who you guys adore lately?

    Rush Limpbaugh

    Ann Coulter

    Glen Beck

    Nancy Grace

    They all have on thing in common.

    They're all assholes.

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  105. Anonymous1:13 PM

    Don't tell me you don't see that.

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  106. you guys dont want to hear the truth, you want to hear what you "WANT" to hear.

    I'll never forget I had a boss who was a real jackass kinda like a rummy or Cheney, he asked me a question and i said "do you want the truth, or the answer you want to hear"

    and thats what its all about with you guys you dont want to hear the truth you want to hear slanted biased fiction that suits your political philosophy and preconceived views.

    I'm sorry but there should be NO PLACE for opinions and slant on a news or talk show, people watch to learn and become informed not to be manipulated and influenced by propaganda and lies and unsubstatiated facts and rhetoric.

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  107. You dont like Olberman because he speaks the truth about your little Dictator who although you claim to oppose his essential abandonment of Libertarian and conservative principles defend like a good little cheerleader ANYWAY...................curious, if there were a president who abandoned basically everything i believed in and held important i would sure as hell not be defending him.

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  108. Not hatred son,disgust thet people like YOU have such a small minded view of life.

    You attack everything that does NOT fit into your , fear based view of modern events, and your desire to CONTINUE the reichwing-corporations desire to dominate this planet for the benefit of very few. And the FACT we have been in the middle east since WW! for the Europeans, and WW2 for the US trying to dominate that region, including staging Coups against the democracies that arose there when THOSE democracies attempted to furfill the will of their people NOT the big oil corporate interests.

    Idiots like YOU ignore such FACTS to continue to spin your LIES and hate for PEOPLE who do not look like you.

    Sorry Dolt it does SHOW.

    Anything that is DONE to continue the life YOU live, no matter how many other people on this planet who suffer for it, IS OK with you. In fact you WANT to torture people who are against the continued oppression of them, and have advocated using coercion to FORCE 1.6 Billion people to either change what they believe or DIE.

    Dolt your a bigot, and what you propose is going to cause WW3, it seems YOU want that.

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  109. Volt - what does STRALING mean?

    FF - regarding the Muslim training and indoctrinating their children with hatred for us -- You are absolutely right that this must be countered, and brought to our awareness. BUT NOT WITH VIOLENCE! In Iran, before we invaded Iraq, MOST OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WERE PRO-AMERICAN, PRO-BLUE JEANS, PRO-IPODS! The college kids and youth LOVED Americans. They wanted to usurp their old Mullahs. Until Bush invaded Iraq and turned them all against us. Read your history.

    We turned them off to our bizarre, violent form of Democracy by our sick invasion of Iraq. We proved we (Bush) were no better than their sick insane leader who has his finger on the trigger. Bush is trigger happy, and it turned off the youth.

    We will win hearts and minds, as all great leaders know (and as Christ taught) by setting an example of peace, of diminishing their hatred with our non-response to it, (the way you treat a bully) thereby weakening them.

    We are a huge nation with vast resources, military might (used defensively) and intelligence.

    We can infiltrate their culture, drop leaflets, use the internet, and use our prayers, wisdom, books and communication to convey our true goodness. Americans aren't using their brains when they use force! Only an idiot would be so primitive. The right wing is primitive, Neanderthal and sick with hatred based on fear.

    By the way, any educated person knows what Glen Beck showed on his show the other day; we all know the extremists indocrinate and brainwash their children to hate non-Musliims, but so what? Do you think bombing them preemptively based on your fear of their philosophy is advanced, right or even sane?

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  110. That's like saying "I'm going to bomb my neighbor because he hates me."

    Or:

    "I'm going to bomb that guy on the next block because he practices withcraft and might kill me someday.. And some other guy who practices voodoo in Jamaica hates me, so I better bomb Jamaica."

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  111. Lydia its the "might" that gets them everytime, if I walked into TT's house rang his doorbell and shot him dead then when i was arrested said I was in the right because i felt he "MIGHT" kill me someday, i would be sitting in jail for the rest of my life.............................yet that is exactly what GWB did, he invaded a sovreign country pre-emptively because as he said they "MIGHT" attack us one day.

    A PRE-EMPTIVE attack is not an act of defence, it is an act of aggression and an act of war, and Bush and Rummy are guilty of war crimes.

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  112. I always thought self defense had to be proved if all you had to do was say "i;m attacking him pre-emptively because I have a feeling in my big toe that someone "MIGHT" do me harm someday, then everyone would be committing murder and assault and trying to justify it with this weak rhetoric, the murder rates would go up exponentialy and we would have chaos and violence everywhere.

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  113. Anonymous3:11 PM

    Forget whether its right or moral or whatever. Just ask yourself if you really think it will work, Voltaire.

    Do you really think that by invading them you can win?

    That hatred they are teaching their children is validated every day as they turn on the news, and see people who look like them, being killed by people who look like us.

    Get your head out of your ass.

    The only way to win a war of opinion is to act above reproach.

    We need to be better than they think we are. Then we'll curb the hatred.

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  114. Anonymous3:14 PM

    Right now we are confirming that muslims across the world are going to hate us. And heres the rub. They have far superior numbers.

    We think we can win because we have battleships and nukes.

    But with no army opposing us, instead, over 1 billion people scattered to the four corners of the earth, one thing is for sure.

    The muslims can outlast any war we wage on them, and the more we kill, the more there will be to attack us using terrorism.

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  115. Anonymous3:15 PM

    If you can't see that, you need to relax your sphincter a little and give your head some air.

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  116. Anonymous3:16 PM

    And as for Keith Olberman?

    Yea, I can see how he might seem like an asshole to you, because he is not afraid of you or Bill Oreilly, and stands up to the hate mongering Oreilly spreads.

    But in truth, he is much more gracious and likable than that punk Beck. Beck is a prick of the highest order. How anyone could like him, I can't imagine.

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  117. Anonymous3:17 PM

    But I'm glad to hear you don't like Nancy Grace.

    Maybe theres hope for you yet.

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  118. MIKE & WORF said it brilliantly.

    MIKE said: A PRE-EMPTIVE attack is not an act of defence, it is an act of aggression and an act of war, and Bush and Rummy are guilty of war crimes.

    Worf said: The only way to win a war of opinion is to act above reproach. We need to be better than they think we are. Then we'll curb the hatred.

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  119. Volt answer me this if a liberal shot your son pre-emptively because he claimed your son "MIGHT" do him harm someday then claimed that you conservatives are indoctrinating your kids to hate liberals so he had it coming what would you say and how would you feel, would this give you reason to HATE liberals and perpetuate the so called clash of civilizations.

    We've been meddling and interfereing in the Middle East for generations and we've killed many of them and looked out for OUR interests rather than theirs, dont you think they have reason to hate us when we kill many of their family and friends and blow up their homes?

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  120. I dont know what you think you can win?

    Its not us against the evil terroristsin Iraq, its a power vacuum with warring religious factions and warlords evolving into a civilwar for control of the country and its assets with us caught in the middle of all the warring sides and hated by all.

    I used to think if things got bad enough we would install another strongman/dictator loyal to us very similar to saddam to keep the peace and hold the country together through fear, oppression and an iron fisted rule, but after what clif has said yesterday that seems no longer possible, the shiites are backed by Iran and seem to be the emerging power and backing them may hasten stability by getting the slaughter over quicker but will probably insure that our interests in the region will no longer be a factor, we will probably be expelled with great slaughter and bloodshed if we do not leave of our own free will, and Irans importance and prestiege will be greatly enhanced while our military and economic resources will have been overtaxed, squandered senselessly and greatly weakened and compromised as a result of the Neo Cons Folly.

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  121. Philanthropy Expert: Conservatives Are More Generous

    SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks is about to become the darling of the religious right in America -- and it's making him nervous.

    The child of academics, raised in a liberal household and educated in the liberal arts, Brooks has written a book that concludes religious conservatives donate far more money than secular liberals to all sorts of charitable activities, irrespective of income.

    In the book, he cites extensive data analysis to demonstrate that values advocated by conservatives -- from church attendance and two-parent families to the Protestant work ethic and a distaste for government-funded social services -- make conservatives more generous than liberals.

    The book, titled "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" (Basic Books, $26), is due for release Nov. 24.

    When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long, liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face of social injustice."

    For the record, Brooks, 42, has been registered in the past as a Democrat, then a Republican, but now lists himself as independent, explaining, "I have no comfortable political home."

    Since 2003 he has been director of nonprofit studies for Syracuse University's Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs.

    Outside professional circles, he's best known for his regular op-ed columns in The Wall Street Journal (13 over the past 18 months) on topics that stray a bit from his philanthropy expertise.

    One noted that people who drink alcohol moderately are more successful and charitable than those who don't (like him). Another observed that liberals are having fewer babies than conservatives, which will reduce liberals' impact on politics over time because children generally mimic their parents.

    Brooks is a behavioral economist by training who researches the relationship between what people do -- aside from their paid work -- why they do it, and its economic impact.

    He's a number cruncher who relied primarily on 10 databases assembled over the past decade, mostly from scientific surveys. The data are adjusted for variables such as age, gender, race and income to draw fine-point conclusions.

    His Wall Street Journal pieces are researched, but a little light.

    His book, he says, is carefully documented to withstand the scrutiny of other academics, which he said he encourages.

    The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion, live in traditional nuclear families and reject the notion that the government should engage in income redistribution are the most generous Americans, by any measure.

    Conversely, secular liberals who believe fervently in government entitlement programs give far less to charity. They want everyone's tax dollars to support charitable causes and are reluctant to write checks to those causes, even when governments don't provide them with enough money.

    Such an attitude, he writes, not only shortchanges the nonprofits but also diminishes the positive fallout of giving, including personal health, wealth and happiness for the donor and overall economic growth.
    All of this, he said, he backs up with statistical analysis.

    "These are not the sort of conclusions I ever thought I would reach when I started looking at charitable giving in graduate school, 10 years ago," he writes in the introduction. "I have to admit I probably would have hated what I have to say in this book."

    Still, he says it forcefully, pointing out that liberals give less than conservatives in every way imaginable, including volunteer hours and donated blood.

    In an interview, Brooks said he recognizes the need for government entitlement programs, such as welfare. But in the book he finds fault with all sorts of government social spending, including entitlements.

    Repeatedly he cites and disputes a line from a Ralph Nader speech to the NAACP in 2000: "A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity."

    Harvey Mansfield, professor of government at Harvard University and 2004 recipient of the National Humanities Medal, does not know Brooks personally but has read the book.

    "His main finding is quite startling, that the people who talk the most about caring actually fork over the least," he said. "But beyond this finding I thought his analysis was extremely good, especially for an economist. He thinks very well about the reason for this and reflects about politics and morals in a way most economists do their best to avoid."

    Brooks says he started the book as an academic treatise, then tightened the documentation and punched up the prose when his colleagues and editor convinced him it would sell better and generate more discussion if he did.

    To make his point forcefully, Brooks admits he cut out a lot of qualifying information.

    "I know I'm going to get yelled at a lot with this book," he said. "But when you say something big and new, you're going to get yelled at."

    http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html

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  122. TT was he looking at the percentage of discretionary disposable income if not then his stats are BS.

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  123. Right Wing but not Conservative

    ""Laura and I were talking about -- we were talking about how amazing it is we're here in Vietnam," Bush said. "And one of the most poignant moments of the drive in was passing the lake where John McCain got pulled out of the lake. And he's a friend of ours. He suffered a lot as a result of his imprisonment, and yet, we passed the place where he was, literally, saved, in one way, by the people pulling him out."

    In fact, according to McCain, who broke both arms and his right knee while ejecting from his A-4 Skyhawk, he was hauled out of the lake on two bamboo poles and beaten on the shore by an angry mob.

    In his autobiography, "Faith of My Fathers," McCain wrote that the crowd, shouting wildly, stripped his clothes off, "spitting on me, kicking and striking me repeatedly." A woman, possibly a nurse, intervened, and a Vietnamese army truck arrived "to take me away from this group of aggrieved citizens who seemed intent on killing me," McCain wrote.

    He described subsequent repeated beatings and torture at the hands of his captors in the notorious Hoa Lo prison, known to American POWs as the "Hanoi Hilton."" Washpost


    ----------------------------------------------------------

    Bush's comments are a "tale told by an idiot."

    Now, maybe it is understandable that the inhabitants of Hanoi wanted to kill this enemy pilot who had fallen into their hands. Bad things often happen in the heat of battle, but for Bush to torture this long past event into something with which he can feel good about McCain's agony and the people of Hanoi is reprehensible.

    I understand that he has also held communist Vietnam up as an example of what Iraq may become "if we do not quit." Has he missed the fact that there is no real freedom in Vietnam now? Has he missed the fact that, having deprived the peoples of Vietnam of their religious rights, the government is now giving those rights back as privileges? Has he missed the fact that the non-Vietnamese Montagnard peoples of Vietnam are still treated as sub-human by the Vietnamese and their government? Has he missed that?

    The Viet Minh would easily have unified Vietnam in 1954-55 after the defeat of the French. They had defeated all their native competitors. Only the growing political and then military intervention of the United States prevented that until 1975. Unity was not a problem in Vietnam. The government that Bush seems to admire had no serious problem in "bringing the country together" after we left.

    Maybe we should get out of the way so that another "unity" government that Bush can praise can take over in Iraq.

    Pat Lang

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  124. Anonymous4:13 PM

    Houston Police Trample Protesting Janitors With Horses
    Posted November 18, 2006
    Huffingtonpost.com

    We sat down in the intersection and the horses came immediately. It was really violent.

    They arrested us, and when we got to jail, we were pretty beat up. Not all of us got the medical attention we needed. The worst was a protester named Julia, who is severely diabetic. We kept telling the guards about her condition but they only gave her a piece of candy. During roll call, she started to complain about light-headedness. Finally she just collapsed unconscious on the floor. It was like she just dropped dead.

    The guard saw it but just kept going through the roll. Susan ran over there and took her pulse while the other inmates were yelling for help, saying we need to call somebody. The medical team strolled over, taking their own sweet time. She was unconscious for like 4 or 5 minutes.

    They really tried to break us down. The first night they put the temperature so high that a woman--one of the other inmates--had a seizure. The second night they made it freezing and took away many of our blankets. We didn't have access to the cots so we had to sleep on a concrete floor. When we would finally fall asleep the guards would come and yell `Are you Anna Denise Solís? Are you so and so?' One of the protesters had a fractured wrist from the horses. She had a cast on and when she would fall asleep the guard would kick the cast to wake her up. She was in a lot of pain

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  125. Anonymous4:15 PM

    We might not be quite wearing brown shirts yet, but they're certainly getting tan.

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  126. That's funny, TT. If our goal is to eliminate government spending and pray that everyone in America gives to charity (which would be ideal) then what does your article prove or promote? Nothing except more divisiveness. In other words, the reason we need the government to help those less fortunate, especially poor school children and people who have no health care or after-school programs, or parents who have white collar opportunities -- is because NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE, whether Democrat or Republican -- DONATE TO THE POOR or to the causes most needed.

    So who cares WHO GIVES MORE?

    And furthermore, I doubt this author spoke to each "statistic" and found out how they vote. For example I go to church and if you grouped me as right-wing just because I go to church, you would be wrong. I have an entire group of left-wing church-going friends. All of us tithe.

    I asked lots of people at my church if they voted for Bush in the last election, and none of them said yes.

    Religious people usually tithe 10% of their income to charity, but if they give it to corrput pastors, or to "Creationist Museums" or to the Southern Baptist Convention (which spends millions of dollars just "evangelizing" and NOT helping the hungry, homeless children... then it's being wasted.

    Mixing religion with politics is wrong.

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  127. Lydia NO rightwingnut really wants ALL three aspects of tithing enforced, especially the second and third.

    The 10% is yearly, there is also a three year tithe which is 100% of all goods. A seven year complete cancellation of ALL debts.

    I do not think the right wing nuts want every poor person to be completely released from ALL debts every seven years.

    Read Deuteronomy 14:22-15:18 most right wingers would find it HARD to adopt these as correct business practices, BUT that is what the Bible says. and Tiny's little reichwingnut hit job article completely MISSES.

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  128. Dolty Boy, Walmart has been a VERY large force in outsourcing which directly lead to the destruction of the jobs which the middle class rests ON, IT has done VERY little to foster it, and temporary lower prices because they can, does NOT build a middle class, real, long lasting, good paying jobs do that son.

    So that part of your argument is PURE unadulterated reichwingnut BULL.


    BTW Indonesia is the largest MUSLIM nation on this planet, it is Muslim, so what is YOUR point.

    India has had historical fights between muslims, Hindu's for centuries, and picking a isolated set of incicdents does not make you argument any more true.

    Son your basic philosophical argument is rooted in a bigoted basis of anyone who does NOT act and think like you IS BAD and they must be dominated and converted or destroyed.

    Same bigoted argument the Europeans used to conquer this continent, Most of Africa, and large parts of Asia.

    The same argument that promoted Jim Crow laws, the KKK and other right wingnut groups in this countries past.

    They are YOUR legacy, not mine son, so GO LOOK in the Mirror yourself.

    You are living in the heritage occupied by David Duke, and the reichwingnuts who scream when they see somebody they do not want here and screech about faux problems that are never what they claim they are.

    Like the fight between the Hindu's and Muslims for control in the former British colony of India, or between the Palestinians and Israelis in the former British protectorate of Palestine.

    Both former British areas where they fostered the differences to DIVIDE and thus make it easier to rule there.

    Get a clue son, bigots are the people like YOU and Anny Tranny who want to convert or Kill 1.6 Billion people on this planet, NOT ME.

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  129. Dolty Boy said...

    Gee Clif, there's a concept:

    ENFORCED CHARITY...

    Is charity REALLY giving from the heart if someone MAKES you do it?


    Ask GOD son, after it is HIS book, and HIS rules remember?

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  130. Like I said, His book, His rules son.

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  131. BTW isn't the requirement to TITHE enforced by Gods rules, just as the ten commandments are enforced by Gods rules, seems your argument is with God, Dolt.

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  132. Sorry son, but your acting in the very MODE which propelled the Europeans with their"civilized society" to dominate the rest of the world and convert it to Christianity.

    Maybe that is why the entire American continent is considered a Christian based continent even though the concept of Christianity arrived on the same ships which carried the Europeans who came with muskets and bibles to use both to convert or kill the natives here, same thing with the continent of Australia, and countries like the Philippines.

    Seems you disagree with what the Europeans did the last 400 years before WW2.

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  133. BTW to all the reichwingnuts, Reagan's entire"welfare queen " stance is repudiated by the same section of Deuteronomy, I quoted, it condemns actions LIKE he took to win office deriding poor people like HE DID.

    Thus Ronald Reagan was wrong according to the Bible in that instance, but that never stopped him or any other reischwingnut from abusing the Bible has it?

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  134. Anonymous5:41 PM

    Bishop Voltron said...


    And the reason it's NOT enforced is that free will thing...


    It didn't used to be.

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  135. How about tithing in the third year son, give 100% and SHARE all of it equally with the poor?

    Or every seven years forgiving all debts?

    That is PART of tithing also, but people conveniently forget that.

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  136. Dolty Boy, I would enjoy listening to YOUR misconceptions of the Bible to prop up your bigoted views, but the munch kin wants to look at some websites she really likes, have a nice evening son.

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  137. Anonymous6:02 PM

    Voltron said...

    I think that's where the new testament comes in, you know because we couldn't live by the old covenant


    Lol. Where'd you hear that? Is that what they're teaching in protestant Sunday Schools these days?

    The New Testament is a canonized compilation of the translations of the Codices, and covers the life of Christ, and the acts of his immediate followers. In it, Jesus makes it clear that his law, the new covenant if you will, that he called his gospel, supercedes the law of moses, or the old covenant as you call it. It has nothing to do with our not being able to live it. People were living the law of moses. The law of moses does not say man MUST not sin. It says man should not sin, and prescribes a series of punishments or "atonements" for each various transgression.

    The problem with Jerusalem 30 AD, when Jesus started his ministry was not an inability to follow the law of Moses. It was an abnormal obsession with the law. The Jewish religious leaders, mostly members of the Sanhedrin, had bastardized the Law of Moses, and turned it into an omnious burdensome set of rituals and observances that tasked the general masses and gave enormous power to the elders, scribes, Pharisees, Saducees, Priests and other religious leaders and figures.

    The lowly stone mason slash prophet from the Nazareth region had a vastly different message for the populace, and most of it was condemnation of the unrealistic adherence to the daily minutia prescribed by the religious leaders of the day.

    Jesus CHANGED the laws they were living by, and gave them higher laws, much more difficult to follow. Instead of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth", he commanded those who would be call themselves after his name, to"turn the other cheek". He taught that the real requirements of the kingdom of Heaven were not sacrifices of lambs, prayers, or tithes. The requirements for admittance into the kingdom which he offered were all based on how we treat our fellow man.

    Jesus "fulfilled" the Law of Moses and now we were all expected to act like Gods.

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  138. Anonymous6:03 PM

    And yes, I wrote that word for word, just for you.

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  139. By the way, any educated person knows what Glen Beck showed on his show the other day; we all know the extremists indocrinate and brainwash their children to hate non-Musliims, but so what? Do you think bombing them preemptively based on your fear of their philosophy is advanced, right or even sane?
    -Lydia Cornell

    So it appears that not one lib has bothered to view Beck's important 40 minute video. Sometimes I grow weary of being right; I understand the lib mind so thoroughly.

    What Beck video demonstrates is that the true message of Ahmadinejad is that he is actively pursuing thermonuclear warheads for his missles which are already capable of reaching the U.S. But He engages in taqqiyah -- telling pleasing falsehoods to objective (liberal) western "journalists" serving as lazy useful idiots who never bother to research what he says in Arabic to his cheering fellow Muslims.

    Ahmadinejad intends to develop and use nukes to destroy Israel and the Great Satan. He believes it is his religious duty to do so; that he will be serving allah by incinerating millions of innocent folks. He sees his role as hastening the Islamic version of Armagheddon in order to conjure Mohammad's successor.

    It is laughably naive and narcissistic to believe that thinking happy thoughts will destroy such evil. While evil may disappear from your mind, evil persists in reality and grows if left unchallenged.

    As a Christian, how do you suppose Jesus would judge someone who had the chance to stop hitler in 1937, but who lacked the spine? What if hitler had nukes? Isn't it interesting that hitler also started by demonizing and exterminating the Jews? Contrary to the liberal mantra, our fellow American countrymen are not the source of the evil which threatens to end enlightened civilization. The jihadis are.

    I trust that Israel will act pre-emptively to destroy Iran's nuclear capability. Libs will scream about this because they want to wait until the nutball Islamists destroy Israel. I don't.

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  140. Anonymous6:07 PM

    estote ergo vos perfecti sicut et Pater vester caelestis perfectus est

    Matthew 5:48

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  141. Anonymous6:12 PM

    Freedom Fan said...
    While evil may disappear from your mind, evil persists in reality and grows if left unchallenged.

    A fact your people have been demostrating with amazing clarity by their actions, over the last 6 years.

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  142. Anonymous6:17 PM

    Voltron said...
    Worf,

    One point however, I thought that the path to salvation was Acceptance of Jesus as our lord and savior?

    Surely IF we do THAT we would naturally treat our fellow man well, but one can also NOT nor accept Christ and STILL treat their fellow man well.
    (the atheist argument)


    I'm not sure what you're asking me?

    Are you asking me about the age old argument, "Faith or Works"?

    If thats what you're asking me I'll warn you now, the schools of thought are vastly polarized, and you'll hear arguments on both sides. However any serious student of the scriptures will arrive at the same conclusion as the apostle James did, and conclude that "faith without works, is dead".


    For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

    James 2:26

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  143. Hi Volt,

    Looks like you have transformed yourself into a modern robot transformer thang.

    As for civility, I saw on the last thread where the courageous bisexual pacifist british gary called you an evil "coward". What a decadent tool.

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  144. Anonymous6:18 PM

    sicut enim corpus sine spiritu emortuum est ita et fides sine operibus mortua est

    James 2:25
    (from the Vulgate)

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  145. A fact your people have been demostrating with amazing clarity by their actions, over the last 6 years.
    -Worf

    Yeah thanks for continuing to demonstrate that the leftists love their enemies... but have unbounded hatred for their fellow Americans.

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  146. Anonymous6:21 PM

    Thank you doctor downer.

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  147. Anonymous6:35 PM

    I see. You're wondering if those who do not confess Christ will be rewarded for their works.

    Well, theres the rub. The Christians today want to tell you know. They'll tell you that a man can work all his life for good, and if he doesn't say this or that, then he's damned for time and all eternity.

    Jesus seemed to have other ideas.

    Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees hypocrites for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter but within they are full of extortion and excess

    Thou blind Pharisee cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter that the outside of them may be clean also


    Jesus seemed to value both, however his actions and reactions indicate he accepted works where faith was lacking. If you doubt that, then consider the apostle Thomas. The "doubting" apostle.

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  148. Anonymous6:38 PM

    By the way, I didn't qualify the pharisee quote. I put that in to point out that whenever Jesus saw someone performing ritual acts of faith, he often chastised them to be more concerned about doing good with their fellow man.

    Faith without works, is dead. But theres more.

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  149. Anonymous6:42 PM

    But I'd have to know more about why, and what exactly you're asking.

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  150. THIS IS GREAT - THIS PARAGRAPH THAT WORF WROTE:

    "Jesus CHANGED the laws they were living by, and gave them higher laws, much more difficult to follow. Instead of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth", he commanded those who would be call themselves after his name, to"turn the other cheek". He taught that the real requirements of the kingdom of Heaven were not sacrifices of lambs, prayers, or tithes. The requirements for admittance into the kingdom which he offered were all based on how we treat our fellow man."

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  151. FF said: "What Beck video demonstrates is that the true message of Ahmadinejad is that he is actively pursuing thermonuclear warheads for his missles which are already capable of reaching the U.S."

    Iran's leader has NO capacity to reach the U.S. He is a bully, vying for attention, and he gets off on everyone fearing him. Believe me, Israel and the Saudis and our agents have him in check. All he wants is to be "talked to" like Korea's Kim.

    Nothing is worse than creating our foreign policy based on some tyrant's rantings, nor is it right to give Osama that much power either. Read every great thinker: the more power and attention you give to evil idiots, the more they thrive. It's a spiritual and Christian law (Jesus TRIED in vain to get us to understand it) that you must keep your eyes on the good, the beautiful and the true. Keep enemies in check, by not allowing them to "overpower you in your thoughts." This is a thought universe.

    NO one is going to let Iran's leader build thermo nuclear weapons that can reach the U.S. within 10 years. We are light years ahead of the mistakes we made with Hitler. The whole world is spying on each other, and hopefully we have infiltrated Iran with spies, and underground agents, as we should have done with Sadaam.

    The use of force is a bully's tactic and WILL NOT WORK, nor will it do anything but cause worldwide annihilation.

    Any fool who thinks you can win any war by military force -- without changing hearts and minds -- is doomed to lose.

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  152. Lydia said;

    Any fool who thinks you can win any war by military force -- without changing hearts and minds -- is doomed to lose.

    That would include the trolls here who keep screaming for Bombs to make the Muslims to play nice.

    like it worked every other time somebody tried it,

    Vietnam 1954-1975

    Afghanistan 1980-1988

    South Africa, during the apartheid suppression

    Europe under Nazi suppression

    The American experience under Jim Crow and the reactionary backlash to civil Rights.

    The clown posse will proly never learn, just get more and more people who no longer accept their delusional world views.

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  153. Read THIS and then convince me racism is dead in this country....really find a way to convince me that in 2006, this group of White Sheeters in disguise are not doing exactly what the Jim Crow laws did. That they do not think exactly the same way Trent Lott expressed in the comment that cost HIM his majority position.

    Oh and BTW tell the kids in this school why they had to attend separate but supposedly equal classes, and idea tossed aside in 1954 by the Supreme court.

    Ruling: Classes divided by race

    At Preston Hollow, principal tried to appease affluent parents, halt white flight, judge says



    For years, it was an open secret at North Dallas' Preston Hollow Elementary School: Even though the school was overwhelmingly Hispanic and black, white parents could get their children into all-white classes. And once placed, the students would have little interaction with the rest of the students.

    The result, a federal judge has ruled, was that principal Teresa Parker "was, in effect, operating, at taxpayer's expense, a private school for Anglo children within a public school that was predominantly minority."

    Judge Sam Lindsay's opinion paints an unflattering picture of the elementary school and a principal who was so desperate to appease the school's affluent white parents that she turned back the clock on school desegregation 50 years.

    In April, Hispanic parents sued, claiming illegal segregation. The three-week trial concluded in late August. On Thursday, Judge Lindsay declared that the school's principal violated the rights of minority children by assigning them to classrooms based on race.

    The judge ordered Mrs. Parker to pay $20,200 to Lucrecia Mayorga Santamaría, the lone named plaintiff, who sued on behalf of her three children.

    Although the judge did not find the Dallas school district liable for Mrs. Parker's actions, he strongly criticized DISD administrators for being "asleep at the wheel."

    "The court is convinced that several of the area superintendents knew, or should have known, about the illegal segregation at Preston Hollow," the judge wrote in his 108-page ruling.
    Also Online

    WFAA-TV's Jeff Brady reports

    En español

    Read Judge Sam Lindsay's opinion

    The district has until Jan. 17 to remedy the segregation at the school. Mrs. Parker did not return messages left at her home and school Friday.

    District spokesman Celso Martinez said Mrs. Parker would remain the school's principal "until further notice."

    Mr. Martinez said the school has undertaken steps to comply with the court order, namely relying on student language scores to place students.

    "The truth is we have initiated quite a few changes at the school already," he said. "We need to compare those changes with the court order. We may well be in total compliance."

    However, when asked if there are still classes at Preston Hollow containing only white students, Mr. Martinez replied: "That's a good question. I don't know the answer to that."
    Desegregation plan

    In 2003, a federal judge released the district from its court-ordered desegregation plan. That plan, however, focused on the allocation of resources and treatment of black students. In the 30 years the district operated under the order, whites fled and Hispanics have grown to become the majority. Blacks make up less than a third of the district; whites about 6 percent.

    Preston Hollow's unwritten policy of clustering whites together was known for years among parents and teachers, according to testimony. In fact, Mrs. Parker's subordinates – including teachers and her assistant principal – raised concerns about it multiple times. One even wrote a letter to Superintendent Michael Hinojosa about it. Those complaints fell on deaf ears, the judge wrote.

    "I began to see something very strange," Ms. Santamaría said in Spanish. "The difference was that the Anglo students would go to lunch together while the Latinos went with the Asians and the African-Americans." That, she said, raised a question in her mind "because the children don't know what segregation is."

    Once the Hispanic families sued, Mrs. Parker tried to cover her tracks, according to testimony. For example, on the day an investigator was to observe classes at the school, Mrs. Parker "reshuffled" the student's classroom assignments, according to assistant principal Robert McElroy.

    Mrs. Parker also asked members of her staff to sign confidentiality agreements about how students were assigned to their classes, and paperwork detailing the classroom assignments was destroyed under mysterious circumstances, according to the judge's ruling.
    Principal uncooperative

    The judge also took exception to Mrs. Parker's apparent unwillingness to cooperate with the court. At one point during the trial, the judge noted, Mrs. Parker testified that she didn't know whether Preston Hollow is a predominantly white neighborhood.

    "The court finds it astounding that Principal Parker, who has served at Preston Hollow for five years, would testify that she knows nothing about the ethnic makeup of the immediate neighborhood surrounding her school."

    The school's attendance zone is mostly north of Northwest Highway, east of Preston Road, south of Royal Lane, and just east of North Central Expressway. It includes affluent, mostly white single-family homes, as well as middle-class homes and apartments that are predominantly minority.

    The judge also had sharp words for the district's attorneys, who argued that segregation would cause no harm to the minority students because their teachers used the same curriculum as those teaching white students.

    "The court is baffled that in this day and age, that [DISD relied] on what is, essentially, a 'separate but equal' argument," the judge wrote.

    Mr. Martinez, the district spokesman, said the district doesn't believe Mrs. Parker was segregating students, but he acknowledged that classrooms at the school need to be better integrated.

    "It's our opinion that we were not segregating students at all," Mr. Martinez said. "In fact the judge found that we were not violating the constitutional rights of anybody. Do we need to integrate the classrooms? Yes, and we're doing precisely that."

    Although the judge ruled against the school's principal in her personal capacity, he did not find the district, its trustees or Mrs. Parker liable in their "official capacities."

    David Hinojosa, the parents' attorney from the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, said he apparently didn't convince the judge that the district knew the segregation was happening.

    "You just have a certain legal standard you have to meet, and unfortunately, the court didn't find that," he said. "We might appeal the issue if need be ... but we got the ultimate relief we wanted. The parents wanted to stop the segregation that was going on there."
    PTA chief criticized

    Judge Lindsay also criticized Meg Bittner, the school's PTA president, who wanted to lure more affluent white families out of private schools and back to Preston Hollow.

    More white families would result in a healthier PTA, she testified, bigger fundraisers and, ultimately, more money for the school. The best way to lure back white families, teachers and others testified, was to put white children together in the same classrooms.

    Teacher Janet Leon told the court that "neighborhood classes" were predominantly made up of white students because "the people who live in the Preston Hollow neighborhood, who are the majority being white, would want their children grouped together."

    To aid in the recruitment of more affluent whites, the school's PTA created a brochure for parents that featured almost all white students. Hispanic parents had shown up at the school the day photos were being taken for the brochure, but the principal blocked their entry into the classroom where the photos were being taken, the judge's ruling states.

    Additionally, the PTA, in conjunction with the school, held separate open houses and kindergarten recruitments for white parents. And when PTA members gave prospective parents tours of the school, they were never taken down the "Hispanic halls" where the minority classes were housed, teachers testified.

    Mrs. Bittner and other PTA officers did not respond to phone messages seeking comment.


    An open secret. which MEANS many people KNEW she was breaking the law, and DID nothing.

    Yes this country can be very great, but it fails so much of the time, because of people like this school principle.

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  154. The trouble with here volt, is it the here of the school board and principle, or the here of everybody else?

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  155. Dolty boy said;

    AND racism is a two (or more) way street as well.

    Yes son, but only one side of that street sits inside the boardrooms and school boards rubberstamping things like this.

    And only one side of that street ever owned the other side as SLAVES.

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  156. If the racist is somebody LIKE you Dolt spreading your hate on the web for all to see, that is ONE thing.

    If it is people who took an OATH to serve everyone and then they fail to uphold that oath, that is another.

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  157. I never said America is evil stupid, it is people LIKE this that make many people to question what this country is all about.

    She denied everything it stands for, but MANY people allowed her to do it.

    Don't you get it, it was NOT just her.

    It was every parent who asked her to do it, and every employee of that school who set quietly by and allowed it to happen.

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  158. Why can't you understand to a LARGE section of this country, what she did is normal, maybe not quite as blatant, but in very subtle and not so subtle ways they are told their place, and that they do not get the "special" privileges, and special considerations.

    She is just confirmation that some still think they have the right to set themselves above the masses who do not have the same rights in this country.

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  159. Dolty the reichwing has adapted in ways that she did, it was NOT her alone but the Idea that she could even conceive of this, and it was the parents who wanted classes like this to stay in that school. It was a LOT of people who made this happen not an isolated individual.

    And the fact it went on for years, with many people knowing about it is telling also.

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  160. Anonymous9:16 PM

    Voltron said...
    just wondering if being a decent sort of guy can save my sorry butt.


    Well, I don't know, but you might as well give it a try. :P

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  161. It's funny Dolt, john Kerry botches a line in a speech and you reichwingnuts go apeshit over it.

    Somebody does REAL harm to school children and you want to make reasons and excuses for it.

    Kind of make me think you silently agree with her and what she did.

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  162. Anonymous9:27 PM

    Here Volt. You might as well look at the whole thing if you're going to chew on it.



    What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

    If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

    And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

    Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

    Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

    Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.


    James 2:14-26

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  163. Anonymous9:29 PM

    shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
    is the line you're looking for.

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  164. VOLT, et al: Jesus couldn't have cared less if you declared his name or said you had faith in him, his mortal personality. He wanted us to "abide in love, love our neighbor as ourself, bless those who persecute us..."

    It's not about style over substance, "letter over spirit" it's all about INTENT: spirit, the prayer and thought behind the deed.

    Contrary to what many churches teach, Jesus practiced no theology whatsoever. He was concerned only with the laws of love.

    Churches (Roman Catholic, etc.) pharisees, priests started this technical idea that interpreted Christ's sole mission as all about "dying for our sins and personal salvation" and that you had to technically declare Christ as your savior.

    I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Christ could not have cared less about anything but how we treat each other. If you abide in love and turn the other cheek you will enter the "kingdom of heaven" for then you will have love in your heart for your fellow man. Judgment and vengeance are to be left up to God."

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  165. Look -- I don't mean to sound so dogmatic. I have no idea why, but I've been writing extensively on this subject for years.
    Writings have been pouring out of me, against my will. It's not my choice.

    For over 2 years, that's all that I would write about and it made me mad because I wanted to write comedy, so a lot of it came out funny, but from a place I never intellectually researched before.

    Years ago I read "Conversations with God" and it resonated because it rang true. The author said that writers who are spiritually listening to God daily, are still getting messages from God and writing the living Bible. The bible didn't end centuries ago just because some preachers believe it did. It is still being written... by modern spiritual seekers who are intently listening for God's will.

    I know I may get in a lot of trouble for saying that statement about not having to declare Jesus as your savior to get into heaven. But I know it's correct.

    Can't reveal the title yet. But it made Norman Lear laugh.

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  166. Anonymous11:34 PM

    Blasphemer

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  167. Are you really calling me a blasphemer?

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  168. Anonymous12:40 AM

    Could you really see me calling anyone a blasphemer?

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  169. From Juan Cole

    AP says that Secretary of State Condi Rice asserted Saturday that Iraqis only have a future if they stay within a single state. She pointed to Vietnam's success in reforming its economy and making up with the United States and held it out as a model to Iraq.

    Whaaat?

    Rice surely knows that the way in which Vietnam achieved national unity was . . . for the radical forces to drive out the Americans, overthrow pro-American elements, and conquer the whole country. They only went in for this capitalism thing fairly recently. Rice, a Ph.D. and former Provost of Stanford University, shouldn't be saying silly things like that Iraq should emulate Vietnam. I guess if you hang around with W. long enough, you catch whatever it is that he has.

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  170. I guess she wants the Iraqi's to clean up the mess we made of their nation, just AS THE Vietnamese have had to clean up the mess we made of their nation over 30 years ago.

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  171. George Patton has a thing or two to say to the NEO-CON Chicken Hawks.....

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  172. Anonymous9:51 AM

    clif said...
    I guess she wants the Iraqi's to clean up the mess we made of their nation, just AS THE Vietnamese have had to clean up the mess we made of their nation over 30 years ago.


    Yea. And George W Bush just got a glimpse of what a good job they did, once we got out of their way.

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  173. Ms. Cornell, thanks for sharing your religious beliefs. But it is rather unusual for a Christian not to believe that Christ was serious when he said: I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
    -John 14:5-7

    You have also stated that you do not believe in an "anthropomorphic" (human-like) God. If you do not believe that man was created in God's physical image, do you believe in the Trinity? Do you believe that Jesus was actually God walking as a man, and that the same God created heaven and earth before humans existed?

    Many, perhaps most, atheists believe that Jesus was a good person and a spiritual beacon to us all. Many also believe that God is the love within each of us and nothing more. Although you are fond of quoting Bible verses, it appears to me that this is also what you truly believe. Help me understand what am I missing. Thanks.

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  174. Freedom Fan, prove to us that you are a believer and live each and every day reflecting the teachings of Jesus.

    Saying that Lydia is less Christian than you are is ridiculous, but you know that, don't you? You're a pretend Christian and I know this because you support the Bush Republican Christians.

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  175. Anonymous10:33 AM

    Freedom Fan said...
    Ms. Cornell, thanks for sharing your religious beliefs. But it is rather unusual for a Christian not to believe that Christ was serious when he said: I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
    -John 14:5-7


    I have no idea why you feel that quote somehow opposes anything she has said. No where in that scripture does it say that a person needs to proclaim Jesus as their savior. Where does it say that? It says no man comes to the father except through me. This is generally considered to be a reference to the final judgement, where Jesus will sit on the right hand of God, and be the final judge of the quick and the dead.

    Therefore, no man comes to the father, except through him.

    No where does it say anything about "confessing Christ".

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  176. kayinmaine,

    I know you have an attention span similar to that of a fruitfly, but as I have stated many times, I am a Diest. I have never pretended to be something I'm not. But thanks for playing.

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  177. I'm not religious at all and I agree with Lydia that you don't have to believe in Jesus to get to Heaven. Here's my favorite spiritual poem and though it does have "God" in it I think it speaks volumes on how all of us should live our daily lives:

    Deciderata

    Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.

    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and the ignorant;
    they too have their story.
    Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
    they are vexatious to the spirit.

    If you compare yourself with others,
    you may become vain or bitter,
    for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
    Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
    Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
    it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

    Exercise caution in your business affairs,
    for the world is full of trickery.
    But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
    many persons strive for high ideals,
    and everywhere life is full of heroism.
    Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
    Neither be cynical about love,
    for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
    it is as perennial as the grass.

    Take kindly the counsel of the years,
    gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
    Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
    But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
    Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

    Beyond a wholesome discipline,
    be gentle with yourself.
    You are a child of the universe
    no less than the trees and the stars;
    you have a right to be here.
    And whether or not it is clear to you,
    no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

    Therefore be at peace with God,
    whatever you conceive Him to be.
    And whatever your labors and aspirations,
    in the noisy confusion of life,
    keep peace in your soul.


    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
    it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

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  178. So if you are that way FF, why do you insistently lambaste Lydia on her spiritual beliefs then? Huh? Why do you do that? For a guy who supports a political party who thinks that they're the only religious people in our nation, you should be happy and pleased to see that Lydia is religious and spiritual!

    You don't want to hear that though, huh? You would much rather think that all liberals/democrats sit around on the weekends having abortion partys with gays in attendence.

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  179. Anonymous10:41 AM

    As for what she believes, who cares? Who cares if she believes Jesus is a physical God, or a spiritual one, or the Michelin Tire man?

    The Pharisee's believed in the physical ressurection of the body. They believed the body would be restored hair for hair in its perfect form.

    Their counter parts, the Saducees, also members of the Sanhedrin council, believed something quite different. The believed there was no ressurection, and the body was lost upon death. The really didn't even believe in an individual life after death.

    Yet they both met in the same meeting places, read the same scriptures, and prayed to the same God.

    Belief systems are just that.

    Beliefs.

    No one knows shit. No ones been there, and therefore no one living, knows shit about what happens once we pass on.

    So ALL they have are beliefs.

    And given the fact that 90 percent of Americans believe in the easter bunny up until a certain age, we can see belief systems are subject to the information at hand, and our interpretation of it.

    If Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny taught us one thing, they taught us that we should listen to no human being for information regarding the supernatural.

    And that means no man can tell you what God is like, or what God wants you to believe or do.

    Cause no man knows.

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  180. Anonymous10:44 AM

    And when it comes to Jesus, he said nothing about what to believe with regards to the afterlife, other than how we treat our fellow man will greatly impact our situation when we get there.

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  181. Correct you are Banned Worfeus! (Your name has gotten shorter LOL)

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  182. So if you are that way FF, why do you insistently lambaste Lydia on her spiritual beliefs then? Huh? Why do you do that?
    -kayinmaine

    I wasn't lambasting or judging anyone (except you). But it is my understanding that it takes more to qualify oneself as being a "Christian" than to believe that Christ was a good person, and to be able to use Bible verses to rip one's political opponents.

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  183. Anonymous11:00 AM

    But I will say this about the idea of a physical Jesus.

    The "evidence" from the scriptures shows that Christ IS a physical being, in his resurrected state, and therefore, most likely God is as well. At least according to the scriptures.

    Consider the story of "Doubting Thomas". Thomas did not believe the other apostles that they had seen the resurrected Christ, and he declared that ""Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.".

    A week later the ressurected Jesus appeared to Thomas, and invited him to actually FEEL the wounds in his side, and his hands, and Thomas actually stuck a finger into the wound, demonstrating CLEARLY that Jesus was an actual, physical being.

    But even more noteworthy is the account from the Gospel of Luke. In Luke, we read of an amazing encounter, when Jesus makes clear that his body was a fully functioning body, working as it did when he was alive.

    And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

    Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


    And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.


    And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?


    And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.


    And he took it, and did eat before them.


    Notice what is significant about this event? Not only did the apostles see and talk to Jesus, but to impress upon them the physical nature of his new ressurected body, he asked them for some food, and then ATE it in front of them, showing his internal organs were still all in the same place, and functioning as normal.

    So based on the scriptures, the logical deduction is that Jesus IS a real and physical being, and since Jesus said he is identical to his father, we can assume God is likewise.

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  184. I'm not religious at all and I agree with Lydia that you don't have to believe in Jesus to get to Heaven.
    -kayinmaine

    Precisely my point. Thanks.

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  185. Anonymous11:06 AM

    Many Christians will tell you Christ discarded his resurrected body after showing it to the apostles, however not only does that defy logic, it defies the scriptures.

    No where is that even implied.

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  186. Worf, apparently you are not a Christian but you are a Bible scholar? A hobby perhaps?

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  187. Anonymous11:18 AM

    I told you a year ago FF. I studied the scriptures for when I was a young man, at Catholic University, the finest theological seminary in all the world.

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  188. Anonymous11:21 AM

    I studied under a very smart man.

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  189. Anonymous11:24 AM

    I haven't studied in decades though.

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  190. Anonymous11:25 AM

    And btw, what is so "apparent" that I am not a Christian, LOL?


    Was it something I said?

    :D

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  191. Anonymous11:26 AM

    Maybe it was when I said, "I am not a Christian"?, lol.

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  192. Funny the FOOLE comes in here decrying Lydia's beliefs, mocking people for what they believe, after HIS beliefs in the gutless neo-con repugs were rejected BY THE VAST MAJORITY of this country.

    Find some reality son, then come back from HIDING again.

    At least he is still the same stupid FOOLE he has always been.

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  193. Thanks for that lame non-sequitur, clippy. Now don't you have some massive, boring article to cut-and-paste into this blog? Interesting that I don't see you burying everyone's comments at your own blog (adolescents') voicecrackindissent. Perhaps I can help.

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  194. BTW Foole Voicecrackindissent , IS KAYINMAINE's BLOG, so get your facts straight son, ...

    Oh that is right your one of those CLUEless repugs who believed Rove's math,

    And believe in your delusion version of reality....dream on foole...dream on son.

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  195. You have been WRONG about so much, and you still come back here with your false generalisations and"dhimmicrat" strawman arguments, still the same old foole eh son?

    Still living in your delusional fantasy land which really does not exist except in your confused mind.

    At least you constant even when you have been proven WRONG, you still want to be the delusional foole on the blog

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  196. Anonymous12:24 PM

    Freedom Fan said...
    I am a Diest


    Then we are more alike than you think.

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  197. Anonymous12:36 PM

    The problem with labling yourself though is to consign yourself to a school of thought. Diesism is as close to a logical a belief system as you can get, but it is a still a belief system.

    Diest can no more prove that God does not talk or work in our lives as an evangelical Christian can prove he does.

    My church is the church of the question mark. Because in truth I just don't have any answers, just some really good questions.

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