Wednesday, March 08, 2006

CRASH BEST PICTURE! * LIBERALS HAVE AMERICA'S VALUES AT HEART

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The United Arab Emirates company that was attempting to take over management operations at six U.S. ports announced today that it will divest itself of all American interests. The announcement appears to head off a major confrontation that was brewing between Congress and the Bush administration over the controversial deal.


Silence is complicity. I love America, but there is something very wrong going on here. I felt it in the pit of my soul, immediately after the last election; and all good people (who didn't have blinders on) knew the truth. Looking into Bush's eyes, I knew this was an impostor, a man with absolutely no true Christian values, no interest in the lives of real Americans or middle-Americans, or the working class or the poor. People in the South said "he looks like a guy I'd like to have a beer with at a barbeque." Love casts our fear, but this man has done nothing but create fear, anger, destruction, bankruptcy, suspicion, divisiveness, mistrust, embarrrassment, terrorism and death. And he doesn't ever seem deeply sad or apologetic or mortified over causing so many deaths, so many coffins, so much anguish. He seems to lack emotion, intelligence, depth and pathos. How on earth did this person become the leader of the free world? The people who are behind this administration have usurped our precious freedoms for their self-serving, anti-American agenda and should be ashamed of themselves.

For people who care about a free America, the country our parents' generation fought to protect — the single most important issue is reforming our election process and realizing there has been CRIMINAL VOTER FRAUD in the last election. This is not some conspiracy theory, it's a fact. WAKE UP! No one seems to take this seriously, but I urge you to go to BRADBLOG and read about Diebold being busted in several states for having illegal infrared data ports in the back of machines to switch votes — as well as known voter suppression. Diebold is being sued right now.) And the single most important book on this is Mark Crispin Miller's FOOLED AGAIN: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too. This is a chilling account of Bush-right-wing election fraud.

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We no longer live in a Democratic nation, but if we are true Americans we will not tolerate this immoral, corrupt idiotic administration — nor will we allow the current right-wing stay in power any longer. We all know these militant, war-mongering fake "Christians" and greed-driven global capitalists are not true conservatives, nor are they true Americans. WAKE UP! It has taken far too long to get anyone to take this issue seriously, and it may be too late for the next elections, unless we act now on voter reform. We need to insist on paper ballots, among countless other things.

I asked my friend Doug Basham what he thinks of a possible Bush impeachment. (Basham of Progressive Talk Las Vegas, one of the best radio stations in the nation. Doug is so GOOD he should run for Congress.) Here's what he wrote to me last night: Dear Lydia, As for an impeachment, probably unlikely unless Democrats take back the House this November, and develop a spine and conscience in the process. I've read reports that Dems are leery of pushing for an impeachment because of the backlash Republicans experienced after their impeachment of Clinton (I guess they don't see the difference between lying about a semen stain and lying a nation into war?!?!) There are many smaller, grass roots-type impeachment movements around the country, plus one in congress. Problem with the one in congress: only 26 Democratic Congressmen/women out of over 200 have signed onto it. And even if all 200+ Democrats did sign onto it, the Republican controlled House wouldn't even entertain the thought of an impeachment. You would think that with Bush at 34% approval rating; the new video that shows he lied re: Katrina; the resistance from his own party re: the Dubai ports deal; and the illegal NSA eavesdropping program, the Democrats would be jumping all OVER this guy. And yet, they remain reluctant to endorse Bush's impeachment. Strange. Take care. Doug

GANDHI: You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance.
Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.

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Number One on the agenda is to unify the Democrats and win back Congress. But we have to redefine the word "liberal" which is one of the most beautiful words in the English language -- and has been smeared by right-wing propagandists and AM talk radio. Liberal means "generous, bounteous, open-handed, tolerant." Liberals actually have true Christian values without even knowing it at times! I've never met a liberal who didnt' want to do good things in the world. And I agree with Rabbi Michael Lerner and Rev. Jim Wallis --Christ mentions "taking care of the poor" as one of our main obligations. How to get rich: Give to the poor. This is the spiritual principle of abundance.

Took a couple of days off from writing and went to see Brokeback on Friday morning. Question: how many of you GUYS (and girls) saw Brokeback Mountain? How many of you are still a little reticent to see it — even though you may be Democrats? Great movie, much more complex than I thought it would be. "Elegiac" as Ang Lee says. I don't want to spoil it for you. I love Ang Lee and believe he is a genius, an enlightened thinker who crosses all cultural barriers. But mainly because I loved "Sense and Sensibility" (the Jane Austen novel, which Emma Thompson turned into brilliant screenplay and won an Oscar for).

But I do want to say I'm so glad CRASH won!! Paul Haggis is an incredibly evolved soul! He has always been on the cutting edge of the progressive movement. Years ago he was on the board of the environmental group ECO (Earth Communications Office) and held fundraisers at his home. He had me in to read for a pilot, but I blew it because I was nervous and (that's before I quit drinking 11 years ago.)

I heard Terrence Howard on Charlie Rose the other night; he was so articulate when he said he hoped CRASH would win because it might help to unify America now. We really need to look inside each other's hearts and see things from the other point of view. There is no spiritual growth with people who are just like you; we need to understand "the Other." We are all flawed and we all have a right to be here.

I have to say I loved Matt Dillon's performance most of all. His character made the most interesting transformation and character arc. I would love to see our friends whom we presume to be on the right, you know who I'm talking about -- make this transformation.

God Bless Aaron Spelling. He gave me my first job in Hollywood. This is from May 2005, at Duke Vincent's book party for "Mafia Summer."

By the way I have a friend who went to Regent University last year. This is a right-wing Christian college, like Liberty U. which is specifically set up to breed lawyers and citizens who will enter politics with the "right-wing" religious frame of mind. She said several of her classmates used the "N" word consistently! They also were very sheltered and had extremely narrow views on women, Catholics and all non-whites. But she somehow actually forged friendships with these kids, and they are now pen pals! I am doing an interview with this woman, and will report on Brad Blog. There is also a great article in The Nation by Eric Alterman.

1,024 comments:

  1. James W3:53 PM

    I read Devil's Game and it was a wonderful book. Gave great insight into what we are doing today in the Middle East.
    Keep up the good work.
    James

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  2. James W.3:54 PM

    Does anyone know the status of Bush impeachment by the state of Virginia?

    JW

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  3. Anonymous3:55 PM

    I AM A GUY AND I DON'T HAVE ANY DESIRE TO SEE BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. WHY ARE THEY PUSHING THIS MOVIE ON US? IT PISSES ME OFF!

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  4. Lydia said;

    Question: how many of you GUYS (and girls) saw Brokeback Mountain? How many of you are still a little reticent to see

    Haven't seen. Won't bother to.

    The last thing I want to see is two men kissing.

    So unless I have a need to vomit anytime soon, I'll have to skip this one.

    Sorry.

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  5. And please don't accuse me of being closed minded and or prejudiced, and or anything else.

    I've seen two men kissing, and its not something I care to see again.

    Thanks but no thanks.

    But I have no problem with the movie. Just like anything else I can choose to not watch it, and thats that.

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  6. Wow, guess thats not the politically correct thing to say, huh?

    Sure got quiet in here.

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  7. Alright, sorry, maybe vomit was too strong of a word.

    Lets just say it would make queasy.

    Remember, I am pro gay marriage, I believe they should have the exact same rights, and responsibilities that anyone else.

    Gay people have been around and can contribute to society as much, and perhaps in some cases more, than anyone else.

    But that does not mean I have to watch them copulate.

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  8. I recently ordered Devil's Game, so I look forward to reading it, as for Brokeback Mountain, I have nothing against gays, and i'm sure it is a good movie or it wouldnt have won all those awards, but I have no desire to see it, i'm actually fairly picky about what I go to the movie's to see, or regularly watch on tv.

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  9. Don't worry Lydia, women don't usually understand this mentaility in hetero-sexual males.

    Its not the concept of same sex relationships. We have no problem watching 2 women for instance kissing. In fact, most hetero males enjoy this.

    But there is something that repels most hetero men at the sight of a two men doing the same thing.

    Its ingrained in us, its a biological gag reflex.

    In fact, its hard to even type the words.

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  10. I'm with you worf, that summarizes my feelings pretty well.

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  11. I have to go back and look at that link Clif or you posted about Shanghai Corp in the last blog, you and clif posted some interesting stuff regarding it.

    Btw, I was just listening to the news and they are claiming that Iran is supplying the insurgents in Iraq with deadly weapons used to kill our troops, looks like they might be starting to make their case to invade Iran, the Dubai and India deals as well as the Pakistan visit lend credence to what many of us have said that things are about to escalate in the middle east with a possible invasion of Iran and a renewed hunt to capture or kill Osama.

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  12. If any one thinks I'm wrong, just watch on the video from E Magazine as E has this obviously overtly gay male host interview Jake Gylenhal, the star of BrokeBack Mountain.

    You can see as Jake gets noticably uncomfortable as this flaming queen with a microphone tells him "you look divine".

    Then he asks Jake the stupidest question in the world. He asks, "was it fun kissing Keith Ledger?". Was that fun?

    Holy crap you can see Gylenhal bob and weave for an answer, and you can also see some visible irratation on his face as he tries to politely answer a question that should have never been asked.

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  13. Worf said

    "We have no problem watching 2 women for instance kissing. In fact, most hetero males enjoy this."

    Of course Worf. Absolutely! :D

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  14. But I like Mike don't see certain movies if there are things that would be too far out of kilter with my acceptable comfort level.

    For instance, I just watched the movie, Domino. When they blew the guys arm off with the shotgun, I got up, took the DVD out of the player, snapped it in half and tossed it in the trash where it belonged.

    I also discarded Eastwoods acclaimed "Million Dollar Baby" half way through, not because it violated any moral priniciples other than being just too dark, and depressing.

    I think everyone should see some real life depressing movies about the unbelievable agony and pain life can bring, but once a soul has lived long enough, and have seen enough pain, then the need to watch it diminishes.

    Eastwoods movie was a masterpeice, but I tossed it in the trash, cause I don't need to see that much pain for entertainment purposes.

    And Domino was tossed cause it was violence glorifying CRAP. Well done crap, but still crap.

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  15. And movies like SAW, and DEVILS REJECTS, are not even well done crap.

    They are just crap.

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  16. And HOSTEL?

    Tarintino ought to be tarred and feathered and run out of hollywood.

    All the beautiful people like to say what a genius he is. He very well may be.

    But his movies are CRAP. Dirty, filthy, glorifying of evil violence and torture, and these movies are warping the minds of the entire worlds youth, and graying their perception of right and wrong.

    I did watch Pulp Fiction, and of all his movies, it was perhaps the least reprehensible, but it was still ultimately crap.

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  17. I think a good movie for Tarentino to go watch is "Grand Canyon".

    Steve Martin plays a B class version of him.

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  18. I absolutely luved BrokenBack Mountain! I've seen it eight times; I just can't seem to get enough of it for some reason. I go to see it with all my guy friends. What a simply, spiffy, fabulous, cute, darling movie. Small wonder it is sooo popular in Hollywood and San Francisco. After seeing it so many times I may become a liberal and leave my wife. Kiss kiss.

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  19. I really enjoyed Donnie Darko and Girl interrupted.

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  20. Wow, so you're really a Freedom Fairy?

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  21. I know why you liked it so much Freedom Fairy.

    Its because they used your line.

    You know, the line you say everytime you look at your autographed picture of George Bush?

    "I don't know how to quit you"

    :D

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  22. Haven't seen any of this years oscar movies but then again I haven't seen any of last years either, guess I have different things to do, if I go to the movies it is because there is a movie a certain 9 year old just has to see.

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  23. Well I'm a movie nut Clif.

    I watch thousands of them. I have always been a fan of Hollywood.

    Stars still mesmerize me, just like they did when I was a little boy. In fact, you could say Hollywood kinda raised me.

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  24. Worf, so nice to talk with someone with your intimate knowledge of this epic film. Let's have a sleep over and we can swap stories and stuff. Luv ya, mean it.

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  25. I love the movies so much that I turned one of my smaller bedrooms into a movie theatre, complete with sound stage, 9 Foot wide Screen, and surround sound.

    Almost every night I take a 2 or 3 hour sebatical into the theatre to let hollywood take me on a trip of the mind.

    I love hollywood.

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  26. Well thanks for the offer Freedom Fag, but if you could actually read you might figure out that I have not seen it, nor do I ever intend to.

    But check with Bik K.

    I hear he swings that way.

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  27. Freeddom Fan said

    "Let's have a sleep over and we can swap stories and stuff. Luv ya, mean it."

    LOL :D

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  28. Hey Johnny.

    This is too easy.

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  29. Yea, that was really hilarious Johnny.

    One would normally have to attend a 3rd grade gym class to be regaled with such erudite wit.

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  30. Freedom Fan said...
    Hey Johnny.

    This is too easy.


    Yes, a characteristic I am sure your parentage is all to familiar with, hence your untimely arrival on the planet.

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  31. Oh I'm sorry, did I distract from your conversation?

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  32. Hey Worf,

    I've noticed about 75% of the comments on Ms. Cornell's blog are yours. Sometimes a dozen straight. Do you ever have an urge to answer yourself? I wish I had your gift for self-amusement.

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  33. Freedom Fairy said;

    I wish I had your gift for self-amusement.

    Well, we can't all be wordsmiths, but hey, your method of self amusement has its benefits.

    You don't have to worry about getting aids.

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  34. But perhaps inbetween GOP circle jerks, you could invest in a calculator that does percentages for you.

    Cause you clearly can't calculate them yourself.

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  35. You don't have to worry about getting aids.
    -Worf

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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  36. I'm sorry.

    I should have been more sensitive to your condition.

    Please accept my apologies.

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  37. Does your lover know?

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  38. If not, give us his name and we will notify his family.

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  39. Well, we can't all be wordsmiths...
    -Worf

    Yes, when you use that big word "erudite" it sends me scurrying for the dictionary every time...all 35 times. Big words are vewwy scawwy.

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  40. I'm sorry my little fudgpacking peabrain buddy.

    I'll try to be less polysyllabic.

    Forget who I'm dealing with sometimes.

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  41. I'm surprised y'all libs could pull yerselves away from that last thread. Clif had everyone petrified that we might hafta convert our dollars into euros before we could buy oil. I don't know about y'all but it gave me night horses...I'm still shaking a little bit.

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  42. And by the way Freedom Fairy, the wordsmith was a reference to my ability to type faster than you apparently can think.

    It was not a reference to the complexity of my verbiage.

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  43. "fudgpacking"? "fag"?? Worf I am shocked shocked! I thought you libs were supposed to be sensitive and tolerant. I am sooo disillusioned. No doubt you are due some woodshedding from Ms. Cornell.

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  44. Well I might enjoy that.

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  45. ...wordsmith was a reference to my ability to type faster than you apparently can think...
    -Worf

    Yes and you are certainly able to type faster than you can think as well...impressive.

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  46. Sorry FF but I never said convert, get your facts straight even if the rest of your life is not, the dollars won't be converted but will simply buy less, oil, food, clothes, housing, medical care due to the inflationary pressures of the collapse of the dominance of the dollar in the world markets and the conversion of those markets which are completely come to be dominated by OPEC which is starting to sell oil for euros in march in Irans Bourse. Which Saddam did in 2000, and L Paul Bremer was more worried about the oil contrtacts in euros than he was in the stability of Iraq. Thus you might have studied economics and work in the industry somewhere but your inabinlity to actually debate honesty by misstating others positions is disengenous but rovian.

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  47. Hey FF, why dont you change your pic to Liberace or Fabio and give me the Gandalf Pic.

    Seriously, I have not seen Brokeback Mountain, nor do I have any desire to see it, but it doesnt strike fear in me, if you think that is all that is wrong with the world today, you really need to open your eyes and look around more.

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  48. Hey Worf, how much is your time on this blog costing us taxpayers? What is your billing rate?

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  49. Freedom Fairy said;

    Yes and you are certainly able to type faster than you can think as well...impressive.

    No, whats impressive is that out of a dozen posts you finally managed one mildly witty jib.

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  50. Freedom Fan said...
    Hey Worf, how much is your time on this blog costing us taxpayers? What is your billing rate?


    Grasping at straws I see.

    You always revert to this one when you can't get that marble in your cranium working.

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  51. Clif said "Sorry FF but I never said convert, get your facts straight even if the rest of your life is not, the dollars won't be converted but will simply buy less, oil, food, clothes, housing, medical care due to the inflationary pressures of the collapse of the dominance of the dollar in the world markets and the conversion of those markets which are completely come to be dominated by OPEC which is starting to sell oil for euros in march in Irans"

    Clif your 100% right, if FF does understand how things work, he would never admit it, just like many leading economists who minimize the importance of the deficit or the petrodollar, because to do otherwise would bring about the very panic and collapse they are striving to avoid by their denial, dismissals and vague and opaque talk.

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  52. And worf, dont let that guy play you or hijack the thread, did you notice how he added nothing of substance in all those posts, just insults jabs and rhetoric, for someone who claims to want to see how the other side thinks, i find it curious that they would choose to spend their limited time here in that manner, although he did raise some valid points last night.

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  53. Mike that is about all he, and his party has left, given the fiasco of the week the administration is currently using as a plan to govern by.

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  54. Ain't seen "Bareback Mountain".
    Theaters in my neck of the woods haven't shown it. No biggie, I wouldn't go even if they did.

    What is it with Hollyweird anyway?
    Family oriented movies always sell well, but even with studios going broke they STILL refuse to make very many....

    I didn't watch the Oscars, but I heard John Stewart had a few funny lines. Laura Ingraham was talking about it tonight.

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  55. I know you're right Mike. I shouldn't play. I didn't add anything of value either.

    Its just so easy that sometimes I get carried away.

    I'll try to focus. :D

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  56. Ya Know, no offense to Lydia but talk about living in a glass bubble.
    These Hollywood people get together and give each other awards and pats on the back for being involved in financial flops that the public by and large won't even go see.
    And the oddest part is they MUST know that since they aren't even widely distributed.

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  57. Voltaire kinda like the people in DC giving each other awards like the ones GWB gave Tenet after his fiasco before the Iraqi war.

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  58. Well Voltaire, they were ok, but I thought a lot of it was lacking.

    I thought Stewart was funny, but they just didn't get him. The crowd was on pins and needles for some reason, like they were afraid the republican police were going to show up any minute and make them put clothes on all the Oscar statues or something.

    Also I can't believe they gave a gangster rap group an Oscar, particularly for a song (if you can call it that) about a Pimp.

    Jon Stewart I think tried to point out the absurdity of it, but it only led to more tension. He joked about how they made it a little easier for a pimp now in Hollywood.

    Of course if you think about what a Pimp is, then you see the insanity here.

    A pimp is a man who sells women, kidnaps women, breaks their noses, caves in their jaws so badly that the finest reconstructive plastic surgeons in the world couldn't make them look human again, addicts them to hard core drugs, rapes them...

    It is a shining moment for Hollywood to offer its highest award to this oh so noble profession.

    :|

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  59. Voltaire ;

    financial flops that the public by and large won't even go see

    Are you kidding me? The movie industry is one of America's most stable, and successful industries in our history. As a whole Hollywood is responsible for literally billions of dollars in revenue, hundreds of thousands of jobs in directly and in the periphery, and the list goes on and on.

    We as a people owe a lot to Hollywood, which is perhaps the number one identifying national asset that is commonly identifiable throughout the world.

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  60. BTW Volt, I see almost every motion picture that comes out, and movie quality is clearly getting better, not worse.

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  61. Voltaire, I'm not living in a bubble. If you read the post, CRASH was my favorite picture. Although I love Ang Lee as a director, I have some serious problems with Brokeback. The characters bothered me; a lot of it bothered me. But the overwhelming message was a tragic one that's all too prevalent today.

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  62. Does anyone realize Stephen Colbert was 5 for 5 on his Oscar picks?

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  63. Worf, whatever happened to the "golden age" of Hollywood? You know, Cecil B. DeMille.... Patton...... Ben Hur..... All those Air Force movies with Jimmy Stewart......
    The Three Stooges......????

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  64. By the way, Lord of the Rings, Dr. Zhivgo, Catch-22, the original MASH, Annie Hall and Harry Potter are among my favorite movies.

    And Dr. Strangelove! "You can't fight in here -- this is the War Room!"

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  65. Hey Lydia, there you are.

    I have nothing against Brokeback Mountain, its just a guy thing.

    I am sure it was a wonderful movie, I just can't watch for certain reasons, but don't think for a moment I am dissing it.

    Unlike republicans I don't dis a movie I have not seen.

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  66. My daughter spends all my movie money. I usually take her to a couple a month.

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  67. Hi Lydia!, I wasn't neccessarily talking about "Mountain".
    (But I never heard of "Crash" either as far as that goes....)

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  68. Worf, whatever happened to the "golden age" of Hollywood?

    It was replaced by the Platinum age. I like the old classics, but come on. How can Ben Hur compete with GLADIATOR?

    You need to see GLADIATOR on a big screen with a good surround sound one time. There's NOTHING like it.

    NOTHING.

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  69. Dr. Strangelove! I loved that one. I watch it every time its on!
    (Unless it's the same time as Patton is on another channel...)

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  70. My faves, Shawshank Redemption, The Unforgiven, Green Mile, The Killing Feilds

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  71. Crash is a WONDERFUL movie.

    The message is overwhelmingly powerful.

    It reminded me of GRAND CANYON with Danny Glover and Kevin Kline.

    Both had a very similar message, and very similar story telling format.

    Crash was a good choice I think, primarily so more people will see it.

    More people need to see it.

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  72. I must say though I do prefer SciFi.
    Did anyone else see "Dark Star"?.... I'll also confess, even though it was a little on the tree hugger side I very much liked "Silent Running" with Bruce Dern....

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  73. Worf, I just re read the complete article you posted yesterday about Shanghai Corp, you should really repost it in this blog, that was a fantastic article, can you imagine Shanghai corp could have over 1/2 the worlds population, as well as five nuclear powers, and several major oil and natural gass producres, thats a formidable and dangerous alliance.

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  74. Clif said;

    My faves, Shawshank Redemption, The Unforgiven, Green Mile, The Killing Feilds

    All great movies Clif.

    And all share one common denominator.

    There all have dark periods, where in the end some light or grain of hope comes through after much pain.

    An interesting selection.

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  75. Lord of The Rings for sure, BTw, did you go to the oscars lydia???

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  76. Mike said;

    can you imagine Shanghai corp could have over 1/2 the worlds population, as well as five nuclear powers, and several major oil and natural gass producres, thats a formidable and dangerous alliance.

    Well Freedomless Fighter is not concerned, so what do we have to worry about?

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  77. without spoiling the movie can some one give be a quick summary or soudbite of what crash is all about

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  78. If you can't be optimistic about life given the final chapter is not avoidable, why bother?

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  79. Although I am a fan of the Lethal Weapon series, I won't go see a new movie with Danny Glover in it.
    (I actually got a telemarketer for MCI to hang up on me....lol)

    BTW Worf, I agree "Movie quality" has gone up, just not the "Substance"...

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  80. Oh I concur 100 percent Clif.

    I heartily applaud your choices. They are all excellent movies.

    I particularly liked Gene Hackmans and Richard Harris's performances in Unforgiven.

    And I can watch Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins in anything, so Shawshank is a great movie.

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  81. Also, although it seems to be called a "flop" I liked "Howard the Duck" too....

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  82. As a nod to Johnny, I have the entire Matrix series on DVD....

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  83. I tend to be getting more sappy in my old age so I like pictures with a little more upbeat theme to them, although I watch everything.

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  84. Hey Voltaire, what happened to your plans to go to Iraq.

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  85. Lethal Weapon Series voltaire.

    I am not even sure if they qualify as movies do they?

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  86. Lets see off the top of my head, some of favorites include, Lord of The Rings, Rocky, an Innocent Man, Count of monte cristo, Terminator etc..

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  87. Lethal weapon is what I call fun crap. At least the first two.

    A lot of random glorifying of violence using a pretty boy tough guy that all the little wannabee's out there can aspire to.

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  88. They were fun. Thats about it.

    Austin Powers the Spy Who Shagged me had more brain food in it than the Lethal Weapons series.

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  89. On hold for right now Mike.
    They're not having a seminar near me for awhile. Although I have given thought to driving to Oklahoma. (That's the one nearest me...)

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  90. never saw more than a few minutes of any of the lethal wep movies

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  91. A lot of random glorifying of violence using a pretty boy tough guy that all the little wannabee's out there can aspire to.

    Bush and the neo-cons anybody?

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  92. do you have to sign some kind of contract?

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  93. Well, I guess that's just different strokes...
    I go to movies for pure escapism. I do enough thinking all day. When I go to a movie I just want to relax and be entertained....
    (probably why I still like Bugs Bunny)

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  94. Bush maybe, I dont think i'd call Cheney or Rove pretty boys or tough guys??

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  95. Geez Clif,
    We're all playing nicely and that's two shots you've fired over my bow...
    Trying to start something are we?

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  96. They are the bit players for the Rove script of "GWB saves us"

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  97. Well the substance is there if you look at it.

    Did you ever see the 5 people you see in heavan? How about the Pride and the Prejudice? Oliver Twist, The Constant Gardner, King Arthur, The Messenger, The 4 Feathers, The Count of Monte Cristo, and on and on.

    There are hundreds of wonderful new movies that have great stories and unbelievable acting, directing, writing.

    Maybe I'm just too easy to please.

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  98. Yes Mike you do have to sign a contract for a year. But they claim they'll let you out of it and send you home anytime you want out. BUT if you come home before the year is up the money is no longer tax free...

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  99. How about "Passion of the Christ"?
    I heard that was pretty good.....

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  100. Raked in buku bucks too.

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  101. Yeah, I said Count of Monte Cristo was one of my favorites, I also saw 5 people you meet in heaven and I saw Oliver Twist like 25 years ago, i also really liked an Innocent Man and A Christmas Carol, I watch that at least twice a year usually around Christmas

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  102. No shots Voltair just Hollywood and DC have much more in common that DC wants to admit. I was just commenting about the two sides of fame in this country and how isolated it can make one sometimes.

    My comment about Bush being A lot of random glorifying of violence using a pretty boy tough guy that all the little wannabee's out there can aspire to.

    Was Worfs words not yours, but no harm intended.

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  103. OOOOH! How about "Omega Man" with Moses?

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  104. "Soylent Green"...."Blade Runner"...."The fifth element".....

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  105. Like I said last blog, "Armageddon". It's been played too much but watching Paris get hit is still thrilling....

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  106. Voltaire, Clif has a point.

    In fact, here are a few facts I have noticed.

    1. The vast majority of fans of Wrestling, Ultimate Fighting, Jackass and other trailer park offerings are overwhelmingly conservatives. Nary a liberal in the crowd.

    2. Conservatives seem to make up the major audiences of big bang lowbrow violence movies, like Lethal Weapon. You say you watch movies to escape? So do I. But whats escaping about watching one human being splattering the brains of another all over the pavement?

    I understand why you like them. Hell I used to love them! I grew up on Dirty Harry and the Magnum Force. I loved them! But you eventually grow past that, if you see the real pain they represent to human beings.

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  107. My favorite: Predator (I) with Ahnold -- saw it five times.

    My second all time favorite: The Crying Game. So sad.

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  108. Most Sci Fi falls flat for me because of the physics, same reason most military movies, they are not real, and I can't suspend belief when I know that it is not possible, same reason Jaws is a terror movie more than and slash and gore halloween, freedy, hockel mask movies are to me.

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  109. Voltaire said...

    OOOOH! How about "Omega Man" with Moses
    "Soylent Green"...."Blade Runner"...."The fifth element".....


    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!

    Those are great fun movies.

    The Omega Man with Chuck Heston has been a cult favorite of mine for years.

    I have the digitally remastered versions of it, Soylent Green, Logans Run, West World and Planet of the Apes.

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  110. Well good luck to you Voltaire if you do it, I remember I considered going to Alaska to help with the Exxon Valdez spill because they were offering like $30 an hour, glad I didnt, now they are saying alot of those guys are getting cancer, you never know what can happen.

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  111. Predator is good movie for the use of camo, but the nuc in the end would have done Arnold he cant run 3-4 miles that quick.

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  112. The violence in those movies is limited by the time. Even the profanity is limited.

    And of course the blood so hard to see, and so fake, that its easy to watch these movies and not walk away traumatized.

    But now twisted peices of crap like Tarintino want to fill hollywood with gruesome nightmares, not fun scary movies, but filthy torture and all manner of repugnant evil.

    I hate tarentino, even though I acknowlege his creative prowess.

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  113. Logans Run and Planet of the Apes get my votes, Do you remember the tv series for both of those Worf???

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  114. If you like SCI FI Voltaire you really should see The MINORITY REPORT with Tom Cruise.

    This is Science Fiction movie making at its finest.

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  115. Predator is good movie for the use of camo, but the nuc in the end would have done Arnold he cant run 3-4 miles that quick.
    -Clif

    The military is really testing reflective camo isn't it?

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  116. LOL, yea, I do now that you mentioned it Mike!

    LOL. Holy crap, yea, the blond hair and dark haired guy on the Ape series. What was the general ape called? Urko? Was that it?

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  117. wanna know what movies I found scary, Night of the Living Dead and Evil Dead, being trapped in a house and having a million zombies trying to get in to kill you is really scary in my book.

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  118. The reason you dislike pulp fiction is the reason I give it credence, it does not cover-up the bad, it shows it for what it is and people as not just good or bad but complex.

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  119. Oh lordy, here we go....

    1. I'm not a big fan of Wrestling, Ultimate Fighting or Jackass...my TV doesn't go to MTV often. (other than the occaisional Beavis and Butthead reruns...lol)

    2. What pain to human beings are we talking about? The Dirty Harry series as well as the Lethal Weapon series represented justice against overwhelming odds, the little guy winning. The bad guys were obviously VERY BAD and had it coming. What about the pain THEY caused other human beings? And wasn't there a sense of triumph of good over evil?

    The movies liberals seem to want to see is how these evil people are just misunderstood and mistreated and underloved.....

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  120. Arnolds camo, we were told to watch it in ROTC for the camo by arnold.

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  121. Hey Worf, a little change of subject, but how do you think Sony's new Blu Ray technology will effect Hollywood and the EDVD/Entertainment Industry

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  122. Mike, I really think you should go onto Borders online and buy a copy of a movie called FREE ENTERPRISE.

    It'll crack you up. Its about some sci fi nuts who grow up and are still sci fi nuts, star trek in particular. They end up meeting their hero, William Shatner in a book store, and befriending him, cause he's having a hard time meeting women.

    They end up introducing him to Deborah Van Valkenburg (Lydia's sister on TCFC) and its a riot.

    Great movie.

    Two Worfeus Thumbs up.

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  123. Oh I didn't mean you Voltaire, really.

    I was just pointing out that if you go to a wrestling match, do a poll. See how many Conservatives are there to Liberals.

    You will find the ratios about 95 to 5.

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  124. Sorry guys but I dont think the sweeping generalizations hold up, people like what they like certain personality traits may play a factor, but not always, I watch a pretty bizare collection of tv shows for example

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  125. Speaking of Tom Cruise, I heard "Vanilla Sky" was pretty good too.
    (I don't want to ruin it for you but Rush plugged it....lol)

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  126. I'll have to check that out Worf, do you really think the ratio is that high?

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  127. LOL, Vanilla Sky is fantastic.

    Great mindfrak.

    Matrixlike even.

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  128. I hear ya Mike, back during the 3 mile island incident I was working at a nuke plant. Bechtel was offering big money for people to come in help with the clean up. Take your limit of radiation and go.... I seriously gave that some thought too but decided against....

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  129. Mike
    do you really think the ratio is that high?


    Most definately. I've been to wrestling matches, and believe me, there aint too many liberals there.

    Same thing at the race tracks of America.

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  130. What are you planning on doing in Iraq Voltair?

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  131. Voltaire said...

    2. What pain to human beings are we talking about? The Dirty Harry series as well as the Lethal Weapon series represented justice against overwhelming odds, the little guy winning.


    This is a common trait of the right. There movies find reasons to really hurt people. The bad guy is always 100 percent bad, and the good guy is always above the law, and above anyone else.

    Dirty Harry was a criminal, just as much as the people he murdered in his movies. We don't send our police officers out to slaugter people based on their own interpretation of the law.

    But since Dirty Harry was a hardline conservative series, (although it did poke fun at the establishment), it made extenuating circumstances that always got the audience rooting for the Police Officer to murder a man in cold blood.

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  132. BTW Worf, I saw the old planet of the Apes tv serious on around Christmas Time, I was sick with Bronchitus for like a month and just stayed home watching retro tv, I was at the store about to buy TCFC and Dukes of Hazzard DVD's right before Christmas and I figured i'd just watch the Planet of The Apes weekend Marathon and buy them after New Years, and then they had a Dukes of Hazzard weekend marathon for New Years weekend and then I wandered onto this site and ended up buying the TCFC DVD's from Lydia, funny how things work out.

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  133. Voltaire if you dont mind me asking, how old are you?

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  134. "The reason you dislike pulp fiction is the reason I give it credence, it does not cover-up the bad, it shows it for what it is and people as not just good or bad but complex."

    Yeah, maybe. But one thing conservatives acknowledge is that there are some people who are truly EVIL, while liberals tend to get lost in the complexity and don't fully recognize WHO the REAL evil is.

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  135. Think I'm kidding about right winged entertainment.

    Just watch 24.

    Watch as all the good little republican CTU agents shoot and torture americans so they can buy 5 minutes before an OMNIPRESENT terrorist group leaks nerve gas to the entire country while exploding nuclear bombs.

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  136. Different people disagree, if you were born in baghdad who would be evil right now?, bombay?

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  137. Mike, 46.

    Worf, Dirty Harry didn't kill anyone who didn't try to kill or HAD killed:

    A. Him
    B. Innocent Children
    C. Women

    First.

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  138. He was portrayed as a criminal by a criminal establishment.

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  139. Well I agree wrestling is crap today, although I used to like it as a kid, I think fights and sporting events are appreciated by both, look at all the Hollywood people you see at fights, most are liberal I would assume>

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  140. Clif said...
    The reason you dislike pulp fiction is the reason I give it credence, it does not cover-up the bad, it shows it for what it is and people as not just good or bad but complex


    See the problem is Clif I grew up with these type of people. I did my time with them.

    I've seen the negative, I've seen reality, as have you I am sure.

    I have seen enough of it, that negativity and dark, mean wicked acts are something I do not choose to entertain myself with.

    One part of Hollywood is determined to make movies showing us exactly what life is about.

    I still like the part that shows us about what life SHOULD be about.

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  141. Voltair one eye opening expierence occured during the 3 years I was assigned to Europe in the 70's we had a couple of american GI's a couple of french soldiers a british civilian some germans and a couple of russians that we were hanging out with, and as a goof we divided our selves as per the wars of the 20th century and the realisation that these friends of mine at that time was an accident of my birth place and time has stayed with me.

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  142. Voltaire said;

    Worf, Dirty Harry didn't kill anyone who didn't try to kill or HAD killed:

    A. Him
    B. Innocent Children
    C. Women

    First.


    I know, thats my point. Right winged movies always try to come up with the worst of the worst so the best of the best can blow them away mercilessly.

    Its a common right winged theme.


    Its how they got us to invade Iraq.

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  143. Well, I'm sure Saddam would top the list if I'd watched my wife or daughters or both sodomized in front of my jail cell while they were trying to get me to confess to a crime I didn't commit....

    Foreign terrorists like Zarqauwi maybe who are killing innocent civilians who are trying to help rebuild my country....

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  144. All the little pug nosed thick necked right winged punks at my old office in DC, walking around boasting how we were going to blow the Iraqis to hell.

    If I dared question why we would want to kill them, they'd always come back, HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT? DON'T YOU REMEMBER 911??

    Idiots every last lowbrow one of them.

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  145. Chuck Norris, Steven Segall, Swartz, Stalone etc, all the same escapest genre, but not actually reality based.

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  146. Voltaire said
    Well, I'm sure Saddam would top the list if I'd watched my wife or daughters or both sodomized in front of my jail cell while they were trying to get me to confess to a crime I didn't commit....


    Yea, now you know why the Iraqi people hate us, and will continue to hate and kill Americans for the next 2 or 3 decades.

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  147. I've always been a sucker for action movies Clif, problem is all those guys got old, the only action star that comes to my mind today is the Rock.

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  148. Clif, thats not an accident of your birth place. That's just person to person relationships.

    If America wasn't the country that it is, the germans would either be trying to kill you or killed by their own as traitors. The French would have ran away as soon as they saw you were in the military, and the Russians would have stood their ground and eyed you suspiciously.

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  149. The movies are not bad it is the people who want solutions to real life like the action movies portray that are not real and can not work. Most anybody doing in real life what action heros do in the movies would end up in prison.

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  150. Voltair birth is an accident of place and time, some are lucker than most, and where you come from helps create your demons.

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  151. Remember Mike, I pointed out I loved action movies growing up.

    It was Fists of Fury that motivated me into the martial arts for a large portion of my life.

    And it was Conan and Rambo that got me into weightlifting as a young man (well, really it was Arnold Book, the Education of a Body Builder, but the movies really accelerated it).

    I still watch action movies. But I have my limits as to the level of crude violence and what I deem to be "Evil" that I will stomach in a movie.

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  152. Although I like Steven Segal's movies, he's actually one of yours....

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  153. Voltaire, do you honestly think this administration is doing a good job?

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  154. Like watching DOMINO.

    When they blew that guys arm off, ripping it from his body, do you have any idea the level of EVIL, HORROR and TORTURE that constitutes???

    Hitler in his darkest of dungeons did not go as far as blasting and ripping limbs from their victims while they writed in agony. He killed them horribly, experimented on some, but just ripping a limb from another human being?

    Who thought up that crap?

    And shame on Kierra Knightly for filming such a peice of filth.

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  155. "I still watch action movies. But I have my limits as to the level of crude violence and what I deem to be "Evil" that I will stomach in a movie."

    I think they call that 'The bad guys lose....'

    Well, sorry to fire the first shot and run but it's bed time.....TTFN

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  156. Arnold and Rocky got me into weights/bodybuilding, I loved the Rocky movies, I rode my bike like 5 miles to see them on opening day like 3 times in a row, Rocky showed that hard work, Heart, determination and tenacity can prevail despite overwhelming odds, and having him lose in the first movie was brilliant because it still seemed like a happy ending.

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  157. I don't really like Segals movies.

    They're ok, but he is a rotten actor and way too cocky. One thing Segal need to learn is humility.

    But I have always been a fan of his fighting. I studied AIKIDO for about a year in 93, and it is a beautiful martial art, although his adaptations have taken it to a whole new level that I was never of course taught in a conventional AIKIDO school.

    But Segal was the best natural fighter I have ever seen.

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  158. Voltaire said;

    I think they call that 'The bad guys lose....'

    Well, sorry to fire the first shot and run but it's bed time.....TTFN


    LOL. Chicken.

    Whatever buddy, but if you can't tell that the BAD GUY is the LAST GUY I root for, then you obviously are not as smart as I give you credit for being.

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  159. Worfeus Hitler did not do it alone, he had a lot of people who did it for him and a lot more that allowed it to happen, and I met some of those people who let it happen, I dated a german girl for a couple of years and once in a while the younger germans I knew would talk about hitler and what their parents said.

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  160. Mike,

    No I don't. But not for the same reasons you do.

    I actually AGREE with you and Worf about the border and our ports.
    As for Iraq, I don't think they will acknowledge the DEPTH of the problem.
    Iraq was just as good a starting place as any. Syria would've worked. So would Iran or the Sudan.

    As far as no good coming from it, look how Syria pulled out of Lebannon, or how Mommar said, "Here! take my nukes! I don't want them anymore.... And talk about containment, we've got Iran "contained" now on both sides!

    On Islamofacism, I agree with Ann.
    Kill their leaders, and convert the non-practicing (peaceful) to Christianity.

    I mean SERIOUSLY, we CANNOT let Islam spread. It is pure mental and spiritual POISON.

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  161. And that is all for now....NITE!

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  162. Voltaire said;

    The French would have ran away as soon as they saw you were in the military, and the Russians would have stood their ground and eyed you suspiciously

    You know that is so lame I shouldn't even respond.

    May I remind you that if it weren't for the French then we would still be paying tax to the Crown?

    Or don't you remember the courage and valor of the French Navy who saved us from Cornwallace and the British Naval warships?

    Or how about the bravery and courage of France in fighting in the trenches during WW1, or over the skies in their wooden flying coffins? The french aces saved our asses in WW1.

    Just because the French won't let bullies like you tell them who they have to fight, doesn't mean they are cowards.

    France did not stand a chance over Germany in WW2. They were ill equiped for the German technology, particularly the air and armour, and therefore chose to surrender, and fight in the streets as a resistence.

    Hundreds of thousands of French resistance fighters fought bravely and died defending their homeland and assisting the Allied forces on their way to Berlin.

    And the Russians? They fought and WON! They beat the Germans back and took back their homeland from overwhelming firepower and the German Panzer Corp.

    To insult them is a cheap, and might I add cowardly right winged tactic that makes me want to puke.

    Shame on you buddy. Thought you were better than that.

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  163. The very same arguement that they use against america Voltair. We are calling them evil for what they do, and they call us evil for what do. So there can be no solution but violent clash, unless both sides admit neither is completely correct, or completely wrong.

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  164. From Wilk.

    The German occupation authorities did not hesitate to employ brutal means in order to subdue the French population. The risks were high for those involved in resistance and also for those surrounding them, since the Germans soon established practices of retaliation against innocents to punish anti-German activity.

    The German military authorities would execute captured resistants.
    They would take hostages from among the general population to be executed should some act of sabotage or other act of resistance occur, executing several French people for a single German death. Sometimes, the hostages were taken within the same group as the presumed resistants or saboteurs (e.g. railroad workers for railroad sabotage); they were almost always people accused by the Germans of being communists. Otherwise, they were just random people who had the bad luck of being caught.
    German services such as the Gestapo and the SS tortured resistants and sent them to concentration camps.

    Threats would also be made on the relatives of captured resistants; for instance, the Gestapo might threaten parents with torturing their children or sending off their daughters to be sex slaves in a military brothel.

    Occasionally, German troops would engage in massacres, such as the destruction of Oradour-sur-Glane where an entire village was razed and the population killed for resistance activities in the vicinity.

    In addition, the Vichy Regime had established paramilitary groups, such as the Milice, in order to fight the Resistance. These groups, collaborating closely with the Nazis, were very brutal and did not hesitate to use torture and other methods.

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  165. And you're calling them cowards?

    Remind me again what brave thing you've done again that puts you so much higher than these people?

    Oh yea, you went out and spent money when Bush told you to, and support the war in Iraq.

    Yea, I guess thats what passes for tough today.

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  166. Worfeus the french are defended by none other than George Washington who had a bronz plac placed at Yorktown where he admitted that with out the french fleet and ground troops we would have lost. One advantage to the army requireing me to visit battlefeilds to understand the battle from the ground it was fought on.

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  167. LOL, nowadays you're a hero if you vote republican and take the kids to DisneyWorld.

    Its a mad mad mad mad mad mad world. :|

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  168. LAST DAMNNED POST TONIGHT!

    Worf, I'm not up on my WW 1. But during the revolution the French helped us not because any great love for us but because they freakin HATED the British more. (that old enemy of my enemy thingy....)
    And as far as surrendering in the face of overwhelming force, do you remember why the Polish are the butt of so many jokes? The French might have gained more respect if they'd went that way.

    Make no mistake, France is no great ally of the United States.

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  169. Clif said;

    One advantage to the army requireing me to visit battlefeilds to understand the battle from the ground it was fought on.

    Thats very cool Clif. My best friend in the world, whose name I won't mention, was in the 82nd Airborne back in the late 70's. He had some issues, in fact, he was diagnosed with something like PTSD, although he was never in combat. He missed the war, but the military did something to him.

    I am not sure what, but he had issues. Anyway he was a great guy and he became a truck driver, and travelled around the country visiting battlefields from his Kenworth.

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  170. Voltaire said;

    helped us not because any great love for us


    Who cares WHY they helped???

    You think a soldier in combat gives a crap why the guy in the foxhole next to him is firing his weapon at the enemy???

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  171. If I'm close I go, I visited Yorktown when I picked upo my older Daughter from her AIT army school, she at Ft Eustis and Yorktown was about 20 miles away.

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  172. Volt said;
    do you remember why the Polish are the butt of so many jokes?

    Yes. It was because of a brave Caverlry charge against German light armour. They were slaughtered, and the Germans laughed because they said they were stupid for attacking tanks with horses.

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  173. Good post Clif, and Voltaire looking back at history, when has saying convert or die ever worked, all that does is convert moderates and mainstream muslims to the cause and make them hate us, saying a whole group of people need to be exterminated is dangerous thinking, and something I never expected to hear in this country.

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  174. Fuinny Voltair doesn't know you were posting WW2 about France either, but he does not let the facts get in the way of his rant.

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  175. It was the start of the Polish jokes.

    I am going to tell you something Volt buddy, if you're still here.

    I have admired your general decency and disposition for a right wing apologist, however there is one thing I just cannot abide is the calling of smaller, less capable nations cowards simply because they do not do what you think they should do, or in this case, because you are either IGNORING or IGNORANT of the courage of their people.

    I can think of many adjectives to describe the Russian people.

    Brave, loyal, dedicated, determined, resourceful, steadfast, battlehardened, courageous, valiant, tough, etc.

    Words indicating cowardice do not enter into that list.

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  176. BTW, the french chose not to go to war with us in Iraq not because they were afraid, but because they didnt support our reasons and had deals with saddam that they wanted to keep in effect.

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  177. If it wasn't for the brave and heroic French, Dutch and Polish resistence fighters, Operation Overlord would have cost us a much higher cost in human life, and geography.

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  178. Voltaire looking back at history, when has saying convert or die ever worked, all that does is convert moderates and mainstream muslims to the cause and make them hate us, saying a whole group of people need to be exterminated is dangerous thinking, and something I never expected to hear in this country.

    That was what I was saying I learned in Germany, a lot of the people I knew didn't understand how their parents went along with Hitler because they knew they were not bad people. Group think can get us to go places in our minds that we never would go alone.

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  179. The brainwashing of the right wing of this country has one PIVOTAL factor.

    The demonizing of a target nation.

    If we demonize and dehumanize a race of people, its easy to kill them, and its easy to support killing them.

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  180. My post about having friends from a lot of different European countries and knowing at different times I'd have to had fight some and others would be allies and how the change of years changed the enemys and allies opened my eyes to such group think.

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  181. Clif said;

    when has saying convert or die ever worked, all that does is convert moderates and mainstream muslims to the cause and make them hate us


    Self righteous military Christians have been doing that since the dawn of Christianity Clif.

    Rememeber Ferdinand and Isabella, who sent ravaging Christian armies throughout the Iberian peninsula forcing the Jews and Muslims to join the mother church?

    They SLAUGHTERED in one day 4500 "recent converts" who they determined were still praying Muslim prayers in addition to their Christian rites.

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  182. Clif said

    Group think can get us to go places in our minds that we never would go alone

    Thats the wisest thing thats ever been said in here.

    Its the mob mentality. The group think. I call it the Jesus Juice (got that from Bill Maher).

    Thats how good people can live outside of Buchenwald and Auswitz and say, "no, we thought they were burning rubbish".

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  183. Clif said "Group think can get us to go places in our minds that we never would go alone."

    clif you are exactly right, you would not believe the power of group think, fear tactics, propaganda, and censored or filtered information or information that comes from an important person or someone in an official capacity in getting people to do things you would never imagine regular people doing. I studied psychology in college and took a class on power and influence, the tactics I see employed by the right wing are timeless tactics used throughout history to seize power, they were used by Hitler and Stalin, and I see them being used today by the Bush administration.

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  184. Convert or Die conquered the americas for the Europeans. The same is true for the way the muslim religion expanded. This is one reason they clash so fiercely.

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  185. That was a good one wasn't it Mike?

    The group think thing.

    Its the crux of everything thats happened since 911.

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  186. Worfeus it is the crux for any modern industrial society, 1984 is about how a society can get an individual deny what they know to fit in with group think.

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  187. Worf said "That was a good one wasn't it Mike?

    The group think thing.

    Its the crux of everything thats happened since 911"

    Yes it is Worf, Clif, Lydia, Drewl and myself have all said this before in various blogs, kinda funny how a random group of people from all over the country all see the same thing>

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  188. Oh I am sure the Muslims are still smarting from the tortures and mass murder at the hands of such holy and noble Christian greats as Sixtus IV,Tomas Torquemada, Innocent IV,Gregory IX, Urban II, Peter the Hermit, Walter the Penniless, Godfrey of Bouillon, Eustace of Flanders, etc etc etc.

    The Muslims have almost 2000 years of torture, rape and mass murder to repay to the Christians in their minds.

    Too bad republicans don't like learning from history. They just keep making the same mistakes over and over and over.

    Its like some sort of time warp continum loop or something.

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  189. Let me throw this out there, with what we know of Shanghai corp, what would be the right foreign policy to persue.

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  190. Clif, now you know I am a big fan of Orwell and I am well aware of the eerie, almost Prophetic way Orwells story is playing out now.

    He just got the date wrong. Instead of 1984, it should have been 2004.

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  191. In fact, a Journalist (can't think of his name) just kind of threw up his hands tonight on Countdown with Keith Oberman, and said right now we are living in 1984, and Bush has taken America off a dangerous cliff.

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  192. A dangerous cliff.

    A dangerous Clif.

    :D

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  193. I don't know Mike.

    Too late tonight for solutions.

    Probably a good place to start is to get a NEW President to get some international respect going again.

    India's still laughing at selling Bush a bunch of Mangos for our Nukes.

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  194. Worf said "Its like some sort of time warp continum loop or something."

    Worf, thats I feel exactly, this sounds a little loopy, but I keep thinking of planet of the apes how the humans trying to kill the apes led to the very future they were trying to avoid by killing the apes, everytime I think of the Iraq war and our foreign policy that seems to be pushing towards war with Iran, I keep thinking of Planet of the Apes.

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  195. VIENNA, Austria, March 6 — The head of the U.N. atomic watchdog agency said Monday a deal on Iran's suspect nuclear program could be only a few days away, making U.N. Security Council action unneeded

    Mohamed ElBaradei's optimism was believed to be linked to a confidential Russian proposal to allow Iran to enrich some uranium domestically, diplomats said. But the plan was expected to meet strong resistance from the U.S., which opposes any enrichment on Iranian soil.
    ''It's been a core element of our view and the view of the European three, and certainly of the Russian Federation that no enrichment in Iran is permissible,'' John Bolton, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said in New York.
    He said ''even small so-called research enrichment programs could give Iran the possibility of mastering the technical deficiencies that it's currently encountering in its program'' and translate them into large-scale enrichment later. The United States uranium enriched in Iran could be misused to make nuclear weapons.
    ElBaradei, without elaborating, nonetheless said he hoped ''that in the next week, an agreement could be reached.''
    The Russian proposal would allow Tehran to conduct small-scale enrichment and ask the IAEA to set the parameters of such activity to minimize the chances of abuse, according to the diplomats, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge details of the plan.

    Like having one Shanghi Corp member help Iran work out their problems with the IAEA and the UN that pulls the rug out from under Bush's plans for Iran....

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  196. The problem is the right keeps saying, so whats the answer? So give us the solution.

    Problem is they kinda "screwed the pooch" for all of us.

    They did not leave us much of an option. Its kind of like a if you went out and told the audience how the magician coming out on stage is going to perform his trick.

    You've allready showed his ass.

    Like Harrison Ford said in Clear and Present Danger, cant diffuse a bomb after its already went off.

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  197. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov planned to discuss the plan with officials in Washington.
    Russia and China, which both have economic and strategic ties with Iran, voted with the majority of IAEA board members but insisted the council do nothing until after this week's IAEA meeting in Vienna.
    Moscow, with the support of the United States and other countries, has offered to enrich Iran's uranium in Russia, which would ensure greater oversight. But Tehran, insisting its goals are peaceful, has said it should be free to carry out some enrichment domestically.
    The Russian proposal was driving a wedge into what had been a relatively united front on uranium enrichment, with Germany cautiously supportive and France and Britain opposed and backing the United States.


    They are working with the knowledge how Bush used the Iraqi sanctions against the UN.

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  198. Did you see how the claimed Iran is supplying the insurgents with weapons, looks like possibly the beginning of a case against Iran, they throw out the supplying weapons thing then the Nuclear weapons they are trying to develop and use the old word association trick to try and imply a link just like they did with Saddam and Al Queda to justify war.

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